Can you find the beat in this Zappa tune? [Echidna's Arf analysis]

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  • @SamuelRHoward
    @SamuelRHoward  ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IT HAS BEEN POINTED OUT to me that I completely and utterly bungled the perspective of the guitar chord diagrams! Here is a fixed version of the major 7th chord - from the perspective of somebody sitting opposite the guitar. instagram.com/p/CvWaXdjyyQa/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
    Albano the Madman's "Titan Arum": th-cam.com/video/lckMe7WkQwI/w-d-xo.html
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    This is only the coda of Echidna's Arf! Perhaps I'll look at the rest of the tune some other time, but this is certainly the most interesting part, although there are other contenders within the tune.

  • @HoraceMash
    @HoraceMash ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is terrific! The rhythms on the Roxy version have been driving me insane for years. Thank you so much for taking the time to figure this out and explain it so beautifully. This is truly a great service to humanity.🎉

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for taking the time to watch and for the kind remarks! Glad you found it helpful. The Roxy version gets very hariy very fast, but I love it still.

  • @Arfshesaid457
    @Arfshesaid457 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic, thank you. I'll be watching this more to absorb the insights.

  • @rillloudmother
    @rillloudmother ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i hear a woody shaw influence in the mercenaries stuff. big ups!

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers fella! You’re not wrong. Love rosewood, especially sunshowers. Nicked some of the cadence ideas from Don Ellis as well, strawberry soup

  • @KarlKarsnark
    @KarlKarsnark ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EVH and Alan Holdworth would do similar sorts of things with "Symetrical Scales" that used a single repeating fingering pattern across the strings to create novel "scales"/patterns.Great for faster "shred" passages too.

  • @NickHolum
    @NickHolum ปีที่แล้ว

    This is pure creative genius explained. I can’t thank you enough!

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks very much for watching, I’m glad you found the explanations helpful!

  • @no_notes1229
    @no_notes1229 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent! Inspiring - will experiment with this. Looking forward to the Dog Breath video!

  • @KarmaMechanic988
    @KarmaMechanic988 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    " watch Ruth" ..

    • @Kram62
      @Kram62 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      …”that’s Ruth.” YCDTOSA vol. 2 Helsinki!

  • @rillloudmother
    @rillloudmother ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your guitar neck diagrams make my eyes bleed, but your harmonic and rhythmic analysis are spot on to me.
    edit: are

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers mate! Re the diagrams if it’s an accessibility issue I’m unaware of, my apologies! If not, then I have faith in your recovery.

    • @rillloudmother
      @rillloudmother ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SamuelRHoward lol, you have them wrong way 'round, mate.

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rillloudmother fuck a priest, you’re right as well, I never flipped the image before the highlights!

    • @rillloudmother
      @rillloudmother ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamuelRHoward i flatly refuse, but iirc your major 7ths look like rootless dominant 7th 13 #9 voicings.

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rillloudmother yep, you’re spot on - the perspective is completely buggered

  • @NorthEast
    @NorthEast ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zappa wrote Sonic the Hedgehog game music. That's what I learned 💭

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I actually considered using knuckle's theme tune as the background music in the beginning explanation instead of the audio from the roxy film, but decided it might be lost on some of the older Zappa enthusiasts

    • @NorthEast
      @NorthEast ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamuelRHoward Ha! I love that you hear it too. If you are familiar with the music, it's clearly written in the same manner. But you probably made the right choice there. Enthusiasts could have taken it the wrong way, even tho it's actually a compliment. Cheers!

  • @-WillAlone-
    @-WillAlone- ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would you like to use my nakin?

  • @gustavovalverde6226
    @gustavovalverde6226 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Arf

  • @TheBigBosske
    @TheBigBosske ปีที่แล้ว

    I always though it was based on Nicolas Slonimsky's "Thesarus of Scales and Melodic Patterns."??? Do you know it and can you confirm it is?

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know and have the Slonimsky book, and have used it myself, but I don’t know if any of the ideas from this part of this tune were directly derived from it. Zappa described the book as ‘the improviser’s bible’, so perhaps he had some things memorised which came out in this tune when he worked it out on guitar (which I’m sure at least one half of it was worked out on guitar for reasons stated in the vid). Ultimately I’m not sure, but if anybody has any sources that suggest he got this idea specifically from Slonimsky, I’d love to see it!

    • @TheBigBosske
      @TheBigBosske ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I play keyboard, this part fails me all the time... I need some mnemonic tips :) It does look much simpler on guitar indeed.

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheBigBosske it's certainly harder on keyboard, especially if you're also playing the left hand in 5/16 all the way through!

  • @kylesanchez8790
    @kylesanchez8790 ปีที่แล้ว

    *promo sm*