You mentioned that you would do a follow-up at some point. Did you ever post a video of your results and/or thoughts going forward? Thank you always providing great content by the way!
Kenny, you are GOLD! Thank you for take the time, money and research to make it better for all of us! PS. those links are broken. I can't find the flow and control valves with those numbers.
Question for you. Could you have used the non metered valve from Asahi. They Type 21 for the water at a fraction of the cost? Not sure why such a drastic price difference between the type 21 and type 21a metering valve. Thanks!
@@MrDarrinSmith I wanted to go with 5/8 when I placed my order. However my very experienced supplier told me all I needed was 1/2. So I went with 1/2. But now with my extra flow I believe 5/8 would have been way better.
@@asahiamericainc.7112 What do you think about my thoughts on remarking the indicator? You could include both indicators with the valve and let the customer decide which to use. However if someone is buying this valve it "would be" for metering. If they install them and turn it to anything under 25% thinking they are not going to get any flow.
@@housewashing5693 Thank you for your thoughtful comments! We always appreciate to hear customer feedback. You bring up some great points. I have actually passed your comments along to our appropriate product managers and engineering team members. If you'd prefer to contact us directly, please reach out at asahi@asahi-america.com so we can connect you to the right person. Thanks again for your support.
@@housewashing5693 Ok thanks...I just built a metering valve setup but noticed that ppl mainly do them your way but I noticed that Coty sells all those trailers with the check valves setup the other way around. So I was just curious on what's the difference.
Kenny, I’m building a roof pump with a AR 30 wanted to ask if the manifold would work better with 3/4 inch connections or a 1 inch. Does it matter all that much or is more of an opening better for flow?
How does this manifold work so far? So I should use 3/4 valves for a 12v 7gpm setup? Do I need a 1inch setup for a gas pump in the future? I'm also curious if the vacuum works on the soap and all since these have much less restriction.
I did say that. They will sell me 12.5 x 55 gallon drums for $3.30 a gallon. However they cannot deliver and I have no way to lift them onto my trailer. I would have to pump it. So I found a bulk company that will deliver to my house and fill my 330 gallon tote for $3.50 a gallon. So for convenience I'm going with Hawkins. Also Sherwin can get EBC too.
@@housewashing5693 ebc, s are $50. here in Jersey. Can't give them away! There is a s. W. Plant type building half hr. From me. I'll have to call them. I'm gonna make that mixer and rig it up to the northern tool roof pumper! Use the tank for sh and hose to mixer.
BTW - those two bottom mount locator holes are able to accept SS inserts - "A panel mount feature on bottom of valve is provided and shall accept SS inserts to provide M5 (1/2” - 1”) or M6 (1-1/2” - 2”) threads for securing to panel, bracket or skid structure." www.asahi-america.com/images/x-assets/Type-21_SST_Ball_Valve/Type-21_SST_Data_Sheet.pdf
@@patrickh.9556 I haven't looked into that. My Son has a 3D printing company. He showed me his metal inserts which are heated and melted into plastic for better holding power. I don't think pressing an insert in cold will hold much at all. That's why the inserts should already be installed at the factory. The GF valves have them so should these.
Very informative videos! I just ordered a Homeflex manifold from H/D with 1' main tube and 3/4" side fittings. Did I over do it going with this bigger manifold or should I have stuck with the manifold you used. I plan on using a 7gpm 12v pump and the same A-A valves you used for your water and S-H, but in 3/4". Do you foresee any problems going one size bigger than yours. Sticking with 1/2" ball valves for surfactant (1/4" hose barb) and other drop stick (1/2' hose barb).
There won't be an issue going 3/4 but for this ----- since the Asahi valves are so free flowing you may find it won't draw through the 1/4 inch soap line because there won't be enough vacuum inside the manifold. So you may have to adjust 3/4 valves down to balance the manifold?
@@housewashing5693 and @Todd Hillberry - how is the manifold holding up? On a different channel, they said that the manifold is not actually stainless and in less than 2 months the SH has rotted it through.
that manifold your holding is worth what the other guys sell. basically im saying it looks like its worth the money, the ones they sell do not look worth what they sell
Good morning, are you able to do a flow test to show the difference between the new flow control valve and a regular ball valve? If they are the same a guy could save a chunk of money not having to buy a 3rd one just to leave open. Great video, thank you for the content.
Hey guy! How do you like the 'ball check valves' so far? do they work? I've got an air pump and trying to keep the restriction of spring checks from pulling on the diaphragms. But... also don't want backflow into the supply. Thanks
I love your idea and I’m currently ordering parts to make this. Do you think if I went with the one inch that it will work with electric since I might start with that before I go with gas
You will need 3/4 inch metering valves too. I toyed with that thought too. It seems that even the big guys that have a gas pump also have a 12 volt too. So I decided if I did get a gas pump I would build another mixer for that. But to answer your question - using 1 inch should work just fine on your 12 volt system
Yes they are. However as you seen that they are super simple. No spring to corrode. No spring pressure to overcome. Zero restriction and full flow. Plus Asahi valves have unions on each end for ease of installation and service. Once you see and test one side by side with the $10 poppet check valves you will be glad you bough them. If I didn't think they were worth it I would have said so.
@@housewashing5693 yeah, I don’t need to have videos, I’m to busy making money to be worried about making videos, I can see you started not to long, remember you will always learn from people like us in the industry, not need to get grumpy with the comments
@@Abovenbeyondservices please share! I’m looking for info because I’m about to pull the trigger and order valves and would like to hear another opinion on this setup if you know something we don’t
Why are you paying all that money for a valve for the water when you're just going to have it wide open anyway? Why not just put a regular PVC valve in that one spot?
I explained this on the first video. This is especially for Pentair and GF valves. There is about a 30% restriction in the valves. Regular ball valves have no restriction. So when your regular water ball valve is fully open you are getting 100% flow. Your GF valve is flowing around 70%. So if both valves are not running the same volume you will have a more difficult time dialing in your percentages. However using the new type of Asahi valve in this video you could get away with using a simple ball valve on the water. I went ahead and used the Asahi valve on the water just in case I want a mix higher than 50/50. That's the only reason I used it on the revised mixer. But yes, if you use this new Asahi valve plus a regular ball valve for water you will be just fine.
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You mentioned that you would do a follow-up at some point. Did you ever post a video of your results and/or thoughts going forward? Thank you always providing great content by the way!
I need to build one with 1 inch water and sh valve, Ordering a gas roof pump. Going to check with your guy, Thank you much Kenny.
Check out Action Machining Manifold if you're going 1 inch
Thanks again for the wonderful content...
Thank you for the nice comment!
Midwest uses the same valves here. I saw their blend system at north Georgia airless the other day. $700!
It won't be long Asahi will be the valves to have.
@@housewashing5693 how much for this valve system ?? Please
@@josegutierrez9113 Right now I'm not making them to sell. Also I'm looking into making my own manifold.
When I contacted my local Harrington Dealer for those valves in 1" they quoted me $295 unreal. Ball check 1" was $95 unreal.
Call my guy listed in the description.
Kenny, you are GOLD! Thank you for take the time, money and research to make it better for all of us!
PS. those links are broken. I can't find the flow and control valves with those numbers.
Some of the numbers were the distributor numbers not the OEM numbers. I'll go check the link issues out now. Thanks!
Question for you. Could you have used the non metered valve from Asahi. They Type 21 for the water at a fraction of the cost? Not sure why such a drastic price difference between the type 21 and type 21a metering valve. Thanks!
You didn't have check valves in your previous build. Why did you add them this time?
Great videos. Thank you for taking the time to educate us. 👍
You're welcome David!
I ordered this manifold and will be building one of these myself. I have a slight spin to put on it though.
Make a video and share.
Do they make a 3 inlet header? And which specific model # ball valves? Please and thank you for your wonderful videos
Only a 4 port in this brand.
Why check valve before valves and other way around?
Some you installed check valve first then the valve and some valve first then check valve?
Either way is fine as long as there is a check valve.
I'm anxious to see you hook this up and testing it.
Me too!
What size hose are you putting on your reel for the softwash? You may have said in one of your videos but i cannot remember.
@@MrDarrinSmith I wanted to go with 5/8 when I placed my order. However my very experienced supplier told me all I needed was 1/2. So I went with 1/2. But now with my extra flow I believe 5/8 would have been way better.
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Check out this video, same valves your using on softwash
All of the ports have check valves? I see them in different sequences I might be wrong... please let me know thanks
Yes. They all have check valves.
Any action videos with this setup?
They are coming soon.
Awesome video - thank you very much for your support!
Your valves are great! If they were crap I would say so. LOL
@@housewashing5693 :) That means so much! Thank you!
@@asahiamericainc.7112 What do you think about my thoughts on remarking the indicator? You could include both indicators with the valve and let the customer decide which to use. However if someone is buying this valve it "would be" for metering. If they install them and turn it to anything under 25% thinking they are not going to get any flow.
@@housewashing5693 Thank you for your thoughtful comments! We always appreciate to hear customer feedback. You bring up some great points. I have actually passed your comments along to our appropriate product managers and engineering team members. If you'd prefer to contact us directly, please reach out at asahi@asahi-america.com so we can connect you to the right person. Thanks again for your support.
@@asahiamericainc.7112 Sounds great. So when do you want me to show up for my six figure practical engineering job?
can this be mounted upside down? with the manifold on the bottom?
Not with this style check valves. If you use sd spring loaded check valves you can.
@@housewashing5693 Ok thanks...I just built a metering valve setup but noticed that ppl mainly do them your way but I noticed that Coty sells all those trailers with the check valves setup the other way around. So I was just curious on what's the difference.
Kenny, I’m building a roof pump with a AR 30 wanted to ask if the manifold would work better with 3/4 inch connections or a 1 inch. Does it matter all that much or is more of an opening better for flow?
How does this manifold work so far? So I should use 3/4 valves for a 12v 7gpm setup? Do I need a 1inch setup for a gas pump in the future? I'm also curious if the vacuum works on the soap and all since these have much less restriction.
What is the purpose of check valve?
From all the tanks wanting to find equal level resulting in mixing.
Thank You Sir Great Job !
Thank you for watching!
Did u say you get sh at Sherwin Williams in one of your videos?
I did say that. They will sell me 12.5 x 55 gallon drums for $3.30 a gallon. However they cannot deliver and I have no way to lift them onto my trailer. I would have to pump it. So I found a bulk company that will deliver to my house and fill my 330 gallon tote for $3.50 a gallon. So for convenience I'm going with Hawkins. Also Sherwin can get EBC too.
@@housewashing5693 ebc, s are $50. here in Jersey. Can't give them away! There is a s. W. Plant type building half hr. From me. I'll have to call them. I'm gonna make that mixer and rig it up to the northern tool roof pumper! Use the tank for sh and hose to mixer.
@@MrEdcp Sherwin Williams quoted me $34 per gallon for EBC. They said if I wanted they would keep it in stock for me.
@@housewashing5693 contact EBC directly. It’s much cheaper then that.
You can buy drums too
Good work!!
Why would you want to adjust the water flow?
If you needed anything hotter than 6.25% you would need to reduce the water.
BTW - those two bottom mount locator holes are able to accept SS inserts - "A panel mount feature on bottom of valve is provided and shall accept SS inserts to provide M5
(1/2” - 1”) or M6 (1-1/2” - 2”) threads for securing to panel, bracket or skid structure." www.asahi-america.com/images/x-assets/Type-21_SST_Ball_Valve/Type-21_SST_Data_Sheet.pdf
I personally think that option should be included.
Would you know the type of inserts that would fit this valve?
@@patrickh.9556 I haven't looked into that. My Son has a 3D printing company. He showed me his metal inserts which are heated and melted into plastic for better holding power. I don't think pressing an insert in cold will hold much at all. That's why the inserts should already be installed at the factory. The GF valves have them so should these.
Very informative videos! I just ordered a Homeflex manifold from H/D with 1' main tube and 3/4" side fittings. Did I over do it going with this bigger manifold or should I have stuck with the manifold you used. I plan on using a 7gpm 12v pump and the same A-A valves you used for your water and S-H, but in 3/4". Do you foresee any problems going one size bigger than yours. Sticking with 1/2" ball valves for surfactant (1/4" hose barb) and other drop stick (1/2' hose barb).
There won't be an issue going 3/4 but for this ----- since the Asahi valves are so free flowing you may find it won't draw through the 1/4 inch soap line because there won't be enough vacuum inside the manifold. So you may have to adjust 3/4 valves down to balance the manifold?
@@housewashing5693 Good point. I will have to experiment with it. Thanks
@@toddhillberry4948 Every system has its quirks.
@@housewashing5693 and @Todd Hillberry - how is the manifold holding up? On a different channel, they said that the manifold is not actually stainless and in less than 2 months the SH has rotted it through.
@@zachpearman6556 I didn't see any rust or corrosion on or in the manifold when I took it off 2 months ago.
that manifold your holding is worth what the other guys sell. basically im saying it looks like its worth the money, the ones they sell do not look worth what they sell
You can't beat the look of stainless steel!!
Good morning, are you able to do a flow test to show the difference between the new flow control valve and a regular ball valve? If they are the same a guy could save a chunk of money not having to buy a 3rd one just to leave open. Great video, thank you for the content.
You are correct. The flow control valve has no resistance on the full open position. So a regular ball valve on the water will be fine.
Hey guy! How do you like the 'ball check valves' so far? do they work? I've got an air pump and trying to keep the restriction of spring checks from pulling on the diaphragms. But... also don't want backflow into the supply. Thanks
Flawless so far.
@@housewashing5693 Nice 👍
Hi Ken! If and when you get time, could you make me one for a 7gpm delivan 12v? I'll pre pay and come get it since I'm not to far from you.
You or I can't build them cheaper than this. www.dultmeier.com/products/search/15258
I love your idea and I’m currently ordering parts to make this. Do you think if I went with the one inch that it will work with electric since I might start with that before I go with gas
You will need 3/4 inch metering valves too. I toyed with that thought too. It seems that even the big guys that have a gas pump also have a 12 volt too. So I decided if I did get a gas pump I would build another mixer for that. But to answer your question - using 1 inch should work just fine on your 12 volt system
Thanks again. I am excited to get my parts ordered and put together!
@@chadleydotcom Let us know how it works out?
Will do! It might be a minute. Asahi just missed a call from Asahi about a quote, so I’ll get with them today and go from there.
The asahi check valves are a bit pricey
Yes they are. However as you seen that they are super simple. No spring to corrode. No spring pressure to overcome. Zero restriction and full flow. Plus Asahi valves have unions on each end for ease of installation and service. Once you see and test one side by side with the $10 poppet check valves you will be glad you bough them. If I didn't think they were worth it I would have said so.
You got lots to learn about metering valves and systems
@@housewashing5693 yeah, I don’t need to have videos, I’m to busy making money to be worried about making videos, I can see you started not to long, remember you will always learn from people like us in the industry, not need to get grumpy with the comments
@@Abovenbeyondservices If you have advice then state it please. I like to learn.
@@housewashing5693 yeah I have lots of advices but I don’t like too write a long response, maybe one day we can talk in the phone
@@Abovenbeyondservices please share! I’m looking for info because I’m about to pull the trigger and order valves and would like to hear another opinion on this setup if you know something we don’t
@@geridrh yeah no problem find me in Fb and send me a message, I will be happy to help you
Why are you paying all that money for a valve for the water when you're just going to have it wide open anyway? Why not just put a regular PVC valve in that one spot?
I explained this on the first video. This is especially for Pentair and GF valves. There is about a 30% restriction in the valves. Regular ball valves have no restriction. So when your regular water ball valve is fully open you are getting 100% flow. Your GF valve is flowing around 70%. So if both valves are not running the same volume you will have a more difficult time dialing in your percentages. However using the new type of Asahi valve in this video you could get away with using a simple ball valve on the water. I went ahead and used the Asahi valve on the water just in case I want a mix higher than 50/50. That's the only reason I used it on the revised mixer. But yes, if you use this new Asahi valve plus a regular ball valve for water you will be just fine.
Hey would u be willing to make me one!?
I really couldn't build it any cheaper than the other guys.
Shoot me ur #
@@housewashing5693 I don’t need gf valves what could u do it for?
@@Rt2comments This one is the best bang for your buck. www.dultmeier.com/products/search/15258
@@Rt2comments I have thought about selling manifolds in kit form?