That's a huge step, Dan. As someone who has also left a church organization after years of employment, I have some small understanding of the significance of this. It sounds like this can lead to bigger and better things for you. Take good care of yourself during this transition.
Okay, let's see it. 😃Wishing the best in your endeavor and also hope you write (or videotape) or lead a team to write/video an actual Data>Dogma Bible Dictionary once your translation efforts are done!
Your work on TH-cam is remarkably and notably high quality, so this is great news, however I'm extremely curious to know whether you feel like your employment by such an organisation represents any kind of ideological conflict with the work you are doing here on TH-cam and generally. My experience with that particular organisation has not suggested that they value data over dogma, so it would be interesting to know if there was a perceived ideological conflict of interest on either side.
Dan, first! As a christian, thank you and God bless you! I know your work is not always in line with my faith, God bless you for seeking the truth and educating us all, you're most generous. Second ,love to hear, as a Protestant, what you think, as a scholar, of the Protestant claim that Paul preaches salvation by faith alone.
Wow, we appreciate your taking on public scholarship full-time. That's a huge step of faith, and my family has definitely become followers of your unique voice in Christianity. One question I would love for you to address at some point is what the Bible may say or imply about being trans. Thanks so much!
Well if you are against trans people, you can bet this "Jesus" character will be against it too. It's almost as if he can read your mind. But that's how he earns his keep I suppose. Now if you are for trans people, you can bet your "Jesus" will be for them also. He's as versatile as Mr. Potato Head.
If you are looking for Biblical truth... And if you want to be a Bible believer and a follower of Jezus (Yehousha) the Messias/the Christ. Don 't look for answers here, please!
I find the bible's words on "a man dressing like a woman" to be outright funny. As Paul was saying that (was it in 1. Corinthian?), he was probably dressed in a toga (a skirt). And when "Moses" said the same, he was dressed in a "robe" (what today would look like a dress if my sunday school information is any guide). So, the whole thing is silly of course, because the male/female dress-codes have always been tied to local customs and changed over time so they would be impossible to "obey" anyway
Great move Dan. I spent most of my life as a leader in the LDS church and once I understood contradictory information, I couldn't leave fast enough. But I also value my time serving in that spiritual community.
I'm reading the apocrypha for the first time... Maybe some information about various books' ideological influences and time period(s) they were written. I mean it would also be cool to have a book-by-book academic basics to know for the lay person. Excited to see more content! :)
I’m excited by your new focus and am looking forward to more goodness. Me: lover of the Scripture, former dispensational evangelical fundamentalist under Witness Lee.
I have a liberal arts masters focused on religious studies. Wow, do I love your stuff! Side note, me and my girls are book collectors, you look like you own a hulk 181 lol.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on modern Utah culture, on the ways in which it has been both molded, splintered, and strained by religious misinformation (for example the misinterpretation of Isaiah 29:11), and on what we can do to course-correct and heal the wounds. If you ever decide to run for public office again, I'd eagerly join your team!
Best of luck on the next step here. I do hope you're planning on having a transcript with/for your podcast. I truly appreciate the subtitles you use on TikTok. I'm slightly hearing impaired, and I don't process podcasts well anyway, so please consider the transcript.
I recently discovered your channel but have heard your name mentioned repeatedly & universally admiringly from various quarters across the academic & faith (or non) spectrums. You recent response vids to Dr. Falk were most appreciated. As a NeverMo in Moridor fascinated by Mormonism, your career move makes sense so that you can have full control & freedom to create. I'll add you to my Patreon list, best wishes & keep up the terrific work. Religious studies is far too important to leave to ideologically driven fundamentalists.
I do use Logos, but I prefer Accordance. The Yale Anchor Bible Commentary series is great, but my favorite is Hermeneia. The Old/New Testament Library series is also very good.
Love this non biased non click bait accurate level headed anti fanatical discourse I NEVER GET PATREON but I will for Dan I hope more content creators pop up like this until it’s the new normal
I’m a long ways from the point where I’m going to reach out to you; but I am observant of you, and at some point I hope to reach out with an offer you can’t refuse…give or take a year or two from now.
Tho it's a very different thing, I sang in church choirs as a ringer for over 20 yrs. Stopped before 9/11 and never looked back. You've helped me understand why that was a necessary decision. Thank you and all the best as you proceed from here.
"There's simply no data to suggest that Jesus had a website... but if he did, he probably would have made it with Squarespace, the sponsor of today's video" Congrats Dan!
I wish this "Jesus" character would start a TH-cam channel. He would have tens of MILLIONS of subscribers. He really needs to get with the times and stop relying on ancient faulty text. He could answer so many questions, and maybe do a "miracle" or two for us, and could definitely sell a lot of "merch." He could end this debate of his existence one and for all instead of having someone else doing it.
Very good for you. The world needs more secular scholars like you. Also, be good if you'd talk about your history of religious studies and when you deconverted & why.
This video didn't say anything about him leaving the church, but only about church employment. Maybe he's talked about it in another way, but he usually makes it a point not to talk about his personal faith on social media.
@@mikemerrillcomposer Okay, sorry, I'm new to his channel. Usually, if someone leaves their church and starts doing "secular" stuff like this, then it means that they have deconverted ... or, are in the process of deconverting. Because, I know, as I deconverted many years back, and I slowly was pointing out flaws in the Bible or in the New Testament, as I was discovering the errors and that the inerrancy was not true. So, I apologize if I misread his particular faith and/or viewpoint on his religious beliefs.
@Jon God is the God of the universe, the source of good. He is life. All wisdom and understanding come from Him. He gave those doctors that wisdom. He uses people and things to accomplish His plans, including doctors. God isn’t a genie butler, we initiate and He empowers. I have legit been delivered and seen others healed by God. Just because you have unbelief and lack a correct understanding of who He is doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Also God doesn’t always heal, either. God can give life but He also takes life away. “Great in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints” says the psalm, because there’s no better place to be than to be in His Kingdom.
@Jon “you don’t know and can’t prove any of those claims” I don’t have to prove anything to you. “You’ve become a professional excuse maker to maintain your allusions” man very tolerant of you. You claimed “this is my experience”, and I did the same thing, yet you’re offended and can’t accept my experience. Shame on you. “Prayer performs no better than chance or placebo” that’s your experience and opinion, not mine. “John 14:12 claims believed will do what Jesus supposedly did and greater, but no modern day believer can verifiably do anything supernatural” For one, Jesus said that to His disciples. Secondly, His disciples did do what He did and greater works, it’s recorded in the book of Acts and early church writings. God did mighty works in the beginning of the church age to expand and grow the church. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen today. I’m a living witness of that. Thirdly, you claim “it can’t be verifiably do anything supernatural.” Even if I did, what makes you think you wouldn’t try to explain it through your materialistic worldview? Also Jesus is not a fictional character. Critical and conservative scholars agree to that. History and information recorded back was not instantaneous as it is today. Alexander the Great first manuscript was made 150 years after his death. “You may sincerely believe you’ve seen others healed, but if subjected to any scrutiny, such claims fall short as having better natural explanations” you’re kind is already made up. Nothing will convince you because of your blinding bias. Even if a miracle did happen, you would just try to explain it through naturalistic presuppositions and dismiss it.
@Jon “I’d love for prayer to work, but there’s zero data that it does” for one prayer is not a scientific phenomenon. Secondly not everything can be proven scientifically. Most of you atheists hold to the philosophical belief of scientism, which has so many errors in it. Secondly, I don’t claim prayer works. Prayer is simply a way to communicate to God in times of praise and in times of need. “The claims about Jesus are fictional” no they aren’t. You want them to be, but they’re not. It’s more reasonable to believe than to believe we randomly evolved from soup 😂 “You don’t believe any supernatural claims about any other ancient figure” because all of the philosophical, prophetic, historical and even archaeological evidence reveals that Jesus is who He says He is. It’s people like you who don’t want it to be true and would rather stay willfully ignorant, dismissing anything that shows you’re wrong. “Real evidence and data would convince me” no it wouldn’t. You just said it in your last comment. I became a Christian once I actually started to desire truth even if it costed me my comfortable biases, because I used to be an atheist all my life until that point four years back.
@Jon “even the vast majority of Christian’s who are scientists accept the validity of evolution” no, they actually don’t. They accept scientific evolution, not the evolution of one kind into another. There’s verifiable evidence for adaptation, there is none for a monkey evolving into a human. “We have to believe what anonymous authors wrote about him decades later” again, history wasn’t recorded the same back then as it is now. According to your standard of judgement, we can’t trust any single historical document from antiquity because it was produced later than the actual date. Also to say the gospel authors were anonymous is a reach. I’d rather trust the early church fathers on that one then someone trying to come up with a hypothesis claiming they’re anonymous. “Data would convince me. You don’t have the authority to speak for me” I’m making a educated observation based on your responses. Nothing will convince you, that is a fact. You already claimed I’m delusional, that there is no evidence for miracles, and made up your mind. All you’re doing now are feeble attempts at virtue signaling. You’re closed minded to opposing opinion, as demonstrated by your replies. All the data proves Jesus and His teachings to be true. But you don’t want it to be true.
I'm very proud of you Dr. McClellan.
That's a huge step, Dan. As someone who has also left a church organization after years of employment, I have some small understanding of the significance of this. It sounds like this can lead to bigger and better things for you. Take good care of yourself during this transition.
Bigger and better things, Dan! We are here to support data over dogma anyday.
Okay, let's see it.
😃Wishing the best in your endeavor and also hope you write (or videotape) or lead a team to write/video an actual Data>Dogma Bible Dictionary once your translation efforts are done!
Your work on TH-cam is remarkably and notably high quality, so this is great news, however I'm extremely curious to know whether you feel like your employment by such an organisation represents any kind of ideological conflict with the work you are doing here on TH-cam and generally.
My experience with that particular organisation has not suggested that they value data over dogma, so it would be interesting to know if there was a perceived ideological conflict of interest on either side.
Can you do a video about the intersection of faith and scholarship using personal examples?
Dan, first! As a christian, thank you and God bless you! I know your work is not always in line with my faith, God bless you for seeking the truth and educating us all, you're most generous.
Second ,love to hear, as a Protestant, what you think, as a scholar, of the Protestant claim that Paul preaches salvation by faith alone.
What a huge step! We're all with you on this. I'll definitely be subscribing to the Patreon once I sort out my job situation. Best of luck!
I'm absolutely thrilled about this. Definitely will become a supporter
Yessss that’s a great step Dan. glad to see you’re digging into this, love your content.
Wow, we appreciate your taking on public scholarship full-time. That's a huge step of faith, and my family has definitely become followers of your unique voice in Christianity.
One question I would love for you to address at some point is what the Bible may say or imply about being trans.
Thanks so much!
Well if you are against trans people, you can bet this "Jesus" character will be against it too. It's almost as if he can read your mind. But that's how he earns his keep I suppose. Now if you are for trans people, you can bet your "Jesus" will be for them also. He's as versatile as Mr. Potato Head.
If you are looking for Biblical truth... And if you want to be a Bible believer and a follower of Jezus (Yehousha) the Messias/the Christ. Don 't look for answers here, please!
I find the bible's words on "a man dressing like a woman" to be outright funny. As Paul was saying that (was it in 1. Corinthian?), he was probably dressed in a toga (a skirt). And when "Moses" said the same, he was dressed in a "robe" (what today would look like a dress if my sunday school information is any guide). So, the whole thing is silly of course, because the male/female dress-codes have always been tied to local customs and changed over time so they would be impossible to "obey" anyway
Great move Dan. I spent most of my life as a leader in the LDS church and once I understood contradictory information, I couldn't leave fast enough. But I also value my time serving in that spiritual community.
We wish you all the best, Dan!!! Mabuhay ka!!!
I'm reading the apocrypha for the first time... Maybe some information about various books' ideological influences and time period(s) they were written.
I mean it would also be cool to have a book-by-book academic basics to know for the lay person.
Excited to see more content! :)
I wish you success in your new chapter and look forward, as always to your content
Hi Dan, I’d love a detailed video on your understanding and views of the documentary hypothesis.
Been expecting this for months lol. Good on you Dan and best of luck. Really appreciate your work.
Dan I love your channel and respect your courage👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I’m excited by your new focus and am looking forward to more goodness.
Me: lover of the Scripture, former dispensational evangelical fundamentalist under Witness Lee.
Does this also mean your relationship with the church is changing or just the financial front?
When you said you are working on a bible translation, I nearly screamed!!!!!
Great news. Looking forward to all of this!
Congrats and I’ll be following you for the future
I have a liberal arts masters focused on religious studies. Wow, do I love your stuff! Side note, me and my girls are book collectors, you look like you own a hulk 181 lol.
Go, Dan! This is going to be awesome.
Recently found the channel via Dr. Kipp Davis, and I love your content and style. I'm looking forward to what you have in the future.
This is great. Would love to see you debunk dogmatism from various folks and even some churches.
Very Excited about you new direction. Good luck !
Prayers and best wishes for your new endeavours.
I love your TikToks and am now loving your youTubes. Thank
you
I'd love to hear your thoughts on modern Utah culture, on the ways in which it has been both molded, splintered, and strained by religious misinformation (for example the misinterpretation of Isaiah 29:11), and on what we can do to course-correct and heal the wounds. If you ever decide to run for public office again, I'd eagerly join your team!
Best of luck on the next step here.
I do hope you're planning on having a transcript with/for your podcast. I truly appreciate the subtitles you use on TikTok. I'm slightly hearing impaired, and I don't process podcasts well anyway, so please consider the transcript.
🎉I am ECSTATIC to hear this new chapter for you means more brilliant content from you for myself and current & future subscribers.🎉
So excited for you and this is great for me! I have new educational listening material while I work!
we are all here to support you and your work
Hey Dr. Dan! If you do a class about Isaiah, I'll pay the fee and learn stuff.
It'd be cool to hear interesting developments of biblical scholarship.
Good luck to you! Looking forward to future content!
Sounds like a plan!! Best wishes going forward!! CJ King
I've only recently subscribed but am excited about this direction for your channel.
Congratulations! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Love your channel!! I wish you all the best and look forward to your future videos!!
I recently discovered your channel but have heard your name mentioned repeatedly & universally admiringly from various quarters across the academic & faith (or non) spectrums. You recent response vids to Dr. Falk were most appreciated. As a NeverMo in Moridor fascinated by Mormonism, your career move makes sense so that you can have full control & freedom to create. I'll add you to my Patreon list, best wishes & keep up the terrific work. Religious studies is far too important to leave to ideologically driven fundamentalists.
I am not surprised that you made this decision.
Really looking forward to seeing your new projects!
Was watching from afar. Now I’m subbed!
Happy to support your scholarship!
You are amazing and I look forward to the podcast!
So excited for your announcement. I can’t wait to see more of your content.
Awesome news! Do you use Logos? If so, any recommendations for critical scholarship commentaries?
I do use Logos, but I prefer Accordance. The Yale Anchor Bible Commentary series is great, but my favorite is Hermeneia. The Old/New Testament Library series is also very good.
Awesome! Good luck in this important transition.
Good luck! I wish you success
YAAAS GO DAN 👏🏻
Excited for you Dan, can't wait for more from you!
Good luck the only thing bad about doing this in the USA is what about health insurance.
Love this non biased non click bait accurate level headed anti fanatical discourse I NEVER GET PATREON but I will for Dan I hope more content creators pop up like this until it’s the new normal
Id love to see a colaboration with yourself and dr justin sledge of esoterica. I think that would be awesome
Any opinion on Open Theism?
I’m a long ways from the point where I’m going to reach out to you; but I am observant of you, and at some point I hope to reach out with an offer you can’t refuse…give or take a year or two from now.
Congrats!!
Id buy the bible translation but Im sure it will be a while
Awesome, Dan! So excited!!!
Do you work with Dr. Michael Heiser?
Are you finally going to just let the beard grow in?
Wonderful news!
Tho it's a very different thing, I sang in church choirs as a ringer for over 20 yrs. Stopped before 9/11 and never looked back. You've helped me understand why that was a necessary decision. Thank you and all the best as you proceed from here.
Well done
"There's simply no data to suggest that Jesus had a website... but if he did, he probably would have made it with Squarespace, the sponsor of today's video"
Congrats Dan!
I wish this "Jesus" character would start a TH-cam channel. He would have tens of MILLIONS of subscribers. He really needs to get with the times and stop relying on ancient faulty text. He could answer so many questions, and maybe do a "miracle" or two for us, and could definitely sell a lot of "merch." He could end this debate of his existence one and for all instead of having someone else doing it.
Would you ever agree to a debate\discussion with Ken Ham?
Let’s go!!!
Wow. Way to go, Dan! But seriously, what the hell happened to your hair?
How much do I need to donate for a Mormon stories interview?
Very good for you. The world needs more secular scholars like you. Also, be good if you'd talk about your history of religious studies and when you deconverted & why.
This video didn't say anything about him leaving the church, but only about church employment. Maybe he's talked about it in another way, but he usually makes it a point not to talk about his personal faith on social media.
he didnt say he deconverted.
He’s not leaving the LDS church, just their employment.
What the world actually needs is more _good_ scholars regardless of their religion or lack thereof.
@@mikemerrillcomposer Okay, sorry, I'm new to his channel. Usually, if someone leaves their church and starts doing "secular" stuff like this, then it means that they have deconverted ... or, are in the process of deconverting. Because, I know, as I deconverted many years back, and I slowly was pointing out flaws in the Bible or in the New Testament, as I was discovering the errors and that the inerrancy was not true. So, I apologize if I misread his particular faith and/or viewpoint on his religious beliefs.
Now I know why...
Your religion is modernity.
You should not involve politics into your study.
It seems that you try to push for the western modern ideology.
I'm supporting your content all definitely
What is the name of the podcast?
How often does Dan pray?
@Jon that’s your experience big dawg. It’s not the prayer that matters, but the one behind the prayer. My prayers have been answered many times
@Jon God is the God of the universe, the source of good. He is life. All wisdom and understanding come from Him. He gave those doctors that wisdom. He uses people and things to accomplish His plans, including doctors. God isn’t a genie butler, we initiate and He empowers. I have legit been delivered and seen others healed by God. Just because you have unbelief and lack a correct understanding of who He is doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
Also God doesn’t always heal, either. God can give life but He also takes life away. “Great in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints” says the psalm, because there’s no better place to be than to be in His Kingdom.
@Jon “you don’t know and can’t prove any of those claims” I don’t have to prove anything to you.
“You’ve become a professional excuse maker to maintain your allusions” man very tolerant of you. You claimed “this is my experience”, and I did the same thing, yet you’re offended and can’t accept my experience. Shame on you.
“Prayer performs no better than chance or placebo” that’s your experience and opinion, not mine.
“John 14:12 claims believed will do what Jesus supposedly did and greater, but no modern day believer can verifiably do anything supernatural”
For one, Jesus said that to His disciples. Secondly, His disciples did do what He did and greater works, it’s recorded in the book of Acts and early church writings. God did mighty works in the beginning of the church age to expand and grow the church. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen today. I’m a living witness of that.
Thirdly, you claim “it can’t be verifiably do anything supernatural.” Even if I did, what makes you think you wouldn’t try to explain it through your materialistic worldview?
Also Jesus is not a fictional character. Critical and conservative scholars agree to that. History and information recorded back was not instantaneous as it is today. Alexander the Great first manuscript was made 150 years after his death.
“You may sincerely believe you’ve seen others healed, but if subjected to any scrutiny, such claims fall short as having better natural explanations” you’re kind is already made up. Nothing will convince you because of your blinding bias. Even if a miracle did happen, you would just try to explain it through naturalistic presuppositions and dismiss it.
@Jon “I’d love for prayer to work, but there’s zero data that it does” for one prayer is not a scientific phenomenon. Secondly not everything can be proven scientifically. Most of you atheists hold to the philosophical belief of scientism, which has so many errors in it.
Secondly, I don’t claim prayer works. Prayer is simply a way to communicate to God in times of praise and in times of need.
“The claims about Jesus are fictional” no they aren’t. You want them to be, but they’re not. It’s more reasonable to believe than to believe we randomly evolved from soup 😂
“You don’t believe any supernatural claims about any other ancient figure” because all of the philosophical, prophetic, historical and even archaeological evidence reveals that Jesus is who He says He is. It’s people like you who don’t want it to be true and would rather stay willfully ignorant, dismissing anything that shows you’re wrong.
“Real evidence and data would convince me” no it wouldn’t. You just said it in your last comment.
I became a Christian once I actually started to desire truth even if it costed me my comfortable biases, because I used to be an atheist all my life until that point four years back.
@Jon “even the vast majority of Christian’s who are scientists accept the validity of evolution” no, they actually don’t. They accept scientific evolution, not the evolution of one kind into another. There’s verifiable evidence for adaptation, there is none for a monkey evolving into a human.
“We have to believe what anonymous authors wrote about him decades later” again, history wasn’t recorded the same back then as it is now. According to your standard of judgement, we can’t trust any single historical document from antiquity because it was produced later than the actual date.
Also to say the gospel authors were anonymous is a reach. I’d rather trust the early church fathers on that one then someone trying to come up with a hypothesis claiming they’re anonymous.
“Data would convince me. You don’t have the authority to speak for me” I’m making a educated observation based on your responses. Nothing will convince you, that is a fact. You already claimed I’m delusional, that there is no evidence for miracles, and made up your mind. All you’re doing now are feeble attempts at virtue signaling. You’re closed minded to opposing opinion, as demonstrated by your replies.
All the data proves Jesus and His teachings to be true. But you don’t want it to be true.
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