Reverse Discrimination? It doesn't exist...but 'tokenism' does. | Antoinette Lattouf | TEDxSydney

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  • @ZPositive
    @ZPositive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +326

    She's right there's no such thing as reverse discrimination. It's just called _discrimination,_ regardless of your race, gender, orientation, etc.

    • @dorianrigelsky6551
      @dorianrigelsky6551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      yes

    • @benjamindover4337
      @benjamindover4337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      This is the point they don't want you to make.

    • @Mpactpics
      @Mpactpics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Think about the word reverse-osmosis. Should we say, 'no such thing as reverse-osmosis, there is only osmosis?' The two words have different meanings and are descriptive of two different processes.

    • @MrLuRoc
      @MrLuRoc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly

    • @Mpactpics
      @Mpactpics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I came to listen to your talk because I care deeply about people who are not treated ________. I'll let you add the word there because evidently intricacies of some words carry many for you, while others don't. The desires of this author would have been much more believable had there not been so many stereo typical jokes about people with lighter skin. The point that stood out most to me was the idea of a 'change of power.' if that is the objective, you've found your obstacle. No living being wants to lose power. Realigned as desire to correct disadvantage might gain more followers without creating a framework of haves and have nots. Your analogy of having a token free shopping experience creating a free and open market experience is flawed. The idea of tokens is simply to create order and insure shoppers do their part by putting things back where they got them. Tokens create responsability, order and reduces costs. This could have been an enlightening talk, but it wasn't clearly thought out and only contributes to the problem.

  • @nicolas267s
    @nicolas267s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    Diversity is a good thing when it's a result, and it's a bad thing when it's a goal.

    • @parheliaa
      @parheliaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great summary what is wrong with all those "actions" today

    • @1gadena
      @1gadena 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is it a good thing? How is diversity on its own a good thing? Surely it depends on the situation. You don't want diversity in the military for example it's all about conforming and molding people to conform and act and think in a certain way

    • @djackson4605
      @djackson4605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1gadena You're correct but military is an extreme outlier in almost every way. Even economically military functions as a syndicalism, just sharing (tax-funded) salary that's pieced out after all the costs are factored in.
      Let's take uniform, do people need to dress differently? Obviously not, its more efficient/cheaper if you just make them all uniform. But military doesn't need much innovation, and absolutely none in regards to art forms. Its just about function exclusively.

    • @timothysatyr6674
      @timothysatyr6674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@1gadena
      Your confusing squad coherency with diversity.
      You can have a diverse group of soldiers of cultural background and even skillsets and still train them to work together in cohesion.
      Not too dissimilar from a choreographed dance.

    • @timothysatyr6674
      @timothysatyr6674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@djackson4605
      Uniforms are practical in reducing friendly fire.

  • @oplkfdhgk
    @oplkfdhgk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Discrimination is discrimination. reverse discrimination is just normal discrimination.

  • @ithinkimarealboy2402
    @ithinkimarealboy2402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    The best person for the job should get the job. No other way will allow a company to grow and innovation to happen to have a real impact. Anything else is the actual discrimination. Discrimination against the better person for the task is the actual issue.

    • @oplkfdhgk
      @oplkfdhgk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed

    • @pblrrt
      @pblrrt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So simple. Frame this post please!

    • @MrsFKS
      @MrsFKS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But when has this ever occurred?

    • @calebmacdonald1993
      @calebmacdonald1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with this but what about those that get hired because they know the person, or because they went to the same school. I think their answer to this is to add in equity but equity is discrimination. I reckon when you hire someone you should just have to show why they were chosen over the others. Would this not solve the problem?

    • @nomoregdm
      @nomoregdm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You realize that, right now, in this comment section:
      1. No one is factually, proveably the best at anything.
      2. Even if by some miracle of a statistic there was, how do we factually prove “the best”? Is it defined by hours willing to work?
      Good ideas? Who judges the good ideas to be affirmed as good ideas so that person is called the “best” at good ideas?
      3. Hopefully you kind of grasp the point by now, but if you don’t:
      By maths, everyone applying for every position isn’t the best for the position. They are the best *of what’s available*
      And even then, what I think is best for our fake company and what you think is best might be (and probably are just based on this comment alone!) different.
      So considering all these realities; why would we not address what we can see with our eyeballs as disparity in fields and know exist…that we know, again by data, population statistics, and common sense.
      I think what I love about your argument (and everyone who agrees with you) the most is the subtle implication that you believe you will always be picked fairly, because you believe you are the best at something.
      I hope reality finds you soon.

  • @teresa1710
    @teresa1710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The name of her book 'How to lose friends and influence white people' says it all really.

    • @adamjj001
      @adamjj001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It borrows/(steals) from Dale Carnegie's book. Its fairly lazy but it's a reference.

  • @cheddargorg
    @cheddargorg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    What is reverse discrimination? discrimination is discrimination. Anyone can be discriminated against. Thanks for coming to my TedTalk.

    • @whatever5401
      @whatever5401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This has to be one of the best TedTalks I've seen. Thank you

    • @patil8302
      @patil8302 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do u think then it is exists still

    • @gfy2979
      @gfy2979 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right

    • @axe-tq2wn
      @axe-tq2wn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EXACTLY

    • @phoenixham3166
      @phoenixham3166 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ever heard of affirmative action 😂 get educated 😂

  • @evilchaperone
    @evilchaperone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    No. It's just discrimination.

  • @seanreynoldscs
    @seanreynoldscs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    People talking about diversity and inclusion only care about the way people look. You never hear people talking about hiring more people from the mid-west, the other coast or rural America so that they can get diverse perspectives. Diversity is more than skin deep.

    • @macdisciple
      @macdisciple 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      some groups have been enslaved, abused, or kicked around thus deserve just a bit more effort to include, eh?

    • @oplkfdhgk
      @oplkfdhgk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@macdisciple no just because you have been discriminated against previously doesn't mean you are now allowed to discriminate others.

    • @RacconDoyle
      @RacconDoyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Hey, my grand father went to a concentration camp, where's my discrimination money?

    • @basilb8178
      @basilb8178 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RacconDoyle generational trauma. You are probably suffering.

    • @henry7327
      @henry7327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@macdisciple The hundreds of millions of white slaves want their representation then.

  • @jonoharper4729
    @jonoharper4729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    She mentions proudly that she's an Arab woman working in Australia, yet she sounds very much like an Australian woman born and bred, and then fails to mention how D & I scorecards are faring in the Arab world, very suspicious. A bit rich calling out the country that gave her opportunity and equality, but hey it's 2022, what do we expect?

    • @jaygee5344
      @jaygee5344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nail on the head there

    • @loki2240
      @loki2240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yes, how dare she criticize the country and culture in which she lives, instead of the countries and cultures in which she doesn't live... And she and everyone else should be happy because things could be worse...except you, of course... Your criticisms are valid, regardless, right?

    • @JoshB100
      @JoshB100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Being Arab doesn’t mean you have to live in the Middle East. Is her heritage jus like if a German was livin in England they might still identify strongly with there German roots so they’d call themselves German even tho they in England.

    • @loki2240
      @loki2240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hannesRSA - Do you gave any guesses why that's the case?

    • @cameraamnhac
      @cameraamnhac 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hello friends

  • @alphaomega7433
    @alphaomega7433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This will be Ratio’d. hard.

    • @antikytheramechanism7909
      @antikytheramechanism7909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's why TH-cam took away the thumbs down, it was strengthening truth.

    • @oplkfdhgk
      @oplkfdhgk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a browser extension that shows me the amount of dislikes(it's not 100% accurate) and the amount of dislikes is pretty high. 😃

    • @lilpenguin092
      @lilpenguin092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oplkfdhgk pics or it didn't happen

    • @oplkfdhgk
      @oplkfdhgk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lilpenguin092 i would give pic but it will probably get deleted quickly so why don't you just go download the browser extension? btw this browser extension shows around 1.2k dislikes currently. :D

  • @kevinwarren1576
    @kevinwarren1576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Hey Antoinette., a question for you ? I’m a white male. I am a American with blond hair and blue eyes. I am thinking of moving to a Arab country, any Arab country, and I want to work at hmmm, Al Jazeera perhaps, I’m very curious how high up in that organization I can get to. Don’t you get it girl ? We as humans are very tribalistic. If I were in the Middle East there’s a good chance I’d lose my head. I don’t think you have that problem in Australia huh ?

    • @CandyCoated96
      @CandyCoated96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So you just admitted that you discriminate? 🤔 smh.

    • @kevinwarren1576
      @kevinwarren1576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CandyCoated96 Dear candy girl., I can tell by your comment that your on milk n cookies,while I’m on steak n eggs. You are a youngster still with very little life experience.

    • @justinebanszky
      @justinebanszky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Your compassion isn't fair. Firstly, the governing bodies follow very different practices, and one is a stable and safe country while the other is not. You're acting like each country is the same. People leave countries that are unsafe and speak safely in countries that they have a chance of surviving in. So you, as a blue eyed, blond, white guy would not get very far right now in Iran, but no one is. It's not a safe or stable country.
      Try using Japan in your example. It has a stable government and is in a state of relative peace and prosperity.
      If you, a white, blond, blue eyed man moved to Japan ... Yeah you'd do really well!! If she did... Not so much.

    • @kevinwarren1576
      @kevinwarren1576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@justinebanszky Thank you ., professor banszky. First off, Iran is not a Arab country. Duh., do your research. Number two you miss the whole point, ISIS is running wild in much of the Middle East. If you feel so strongly about it why not sign up to the marine corps and do something about the stable, unsafe countries that you are so concerned about, you snowflake. Thirdly, as a blonde, blue eyed man I’d be extremely unwelcome in those , as you put it unstable, unsafe countries. So to wrap things up she should count her blessings that she lives in Australia. ( not her country of her ancestors) In case you haven’t realized by now, I’m not a left leaning socialist like you. Have a nice day.

    • @justinebanszky
      @justinebanszky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Professor! I like it, not to far off actually haha
      Iran is an Arabic speaking country which is the language she claims to speak at home so I was using a country that was relevant to the topic.
      I'm not an American, so... No Marine Corps for me but education goes a long way in helping the world. You should try it instead of degrading women, calling people snowflakes (which I'll take as a compliment since I am unique and beautiful, like a snowflake 😜) and being a bigot.
      Just because someone is grateful to be able to live in a safe and stable country does not mean they have to be treated like less than the next person.
      Enjoy your heart attack (you should really add some veggies to your diet of steak and eggs)
      Cheers 😘

  • @brahmdorst5154
    @brahmdorst5154 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You cannot achieve true inclusion, of the type she describes, by labeling one small minority as the most privileged point in a Venn diagram, while ridiculing that group, dismissing their individual experiences, and blaming them for colonialism and current lack inclusion.

  • @Siddhartha02
    @Siddhartha02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    TED has really fallen all the way into the gutter.

    • @r.katiekane252
      @r.katiekane252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Gee...I wonder if this triggered someone 🤣🤣🤣

    • @PuddilyOops
      @PuddilyOops 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@r.katiekane252 was it you? It’ll be ok, just breathe.

    • @r.katiekane252
      @r.katiekane252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@PuddilyOops Nah...it takes FAR more to trigger me. That comment just made me LOL 😂

    • @overpass2628
      @overpass2628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      By your logic Katie, anytime anyone disagrees with something they’re triggered.

    • @r.katiekane252
      @r.katiekane252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@overpass2628 That would actually NOT be inaccurate. The question is WHY do they become triggered...is it anger, shame, resentment, grief, happiness? There are all kinds of triggers (not all are negative). Triggers are signposts.

  • @AwakeNotWokeBruh
    @AwakeNotWokeBruh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    "and thinking themselves to be wise, they became fools"

    • @Exodus26.13Pi
      @Exodus26.13Pi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "their glory will be their shame"

    • @ZPositive
      @ZPositive 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's feminism to a T.

  • @birtlee2078
    @birtlee2078 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    People like her have played the victim to try and get promoted!! People are waking up to these victims!!

  • @jameschesters3946
    @jameschesters3946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If a white man did the first minute of this talk the other way around I wonder what he would be called?

    • @joschistep3442
      @joschistep3442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      George probably?

    • @sylina38
      @sylina38 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@joschistep3442HAHAHA!!!!

  • @vanesagirasol9364
    @vanesagirasol9364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh stopped!!! I’m Latin and I didn’t feel discriminated… WHAT a JOKE!!!👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎

  • @garyarthurs
    @garyarthurs ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Giving a Ted Talk is no small accomplishment.
    If I may, you say “reverse discrimination doesn’t exist” but open your talk by defining a group of people and then proceeding to ridicule that group of people. I would suggest changing that.
    Also, to make the absolute statement “it doesn’t exist”, with all due respect, is naive. I think I’ve lived a little longer and would submit that a more accurate statement, based on understanding human nature, might be “of course reverse discrimination exists, and we need to guard against it”.
    I hope these honest comments can be well received. All the best to you.

  • @BoomBoomBoom..
    @BoomBoomBoom.. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Please hang out in Harlem princess

  • @deephouse733
    @deephouse733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How’s the racism and discrimination in her Arabic homeland? She doesn’t want to talk about that

  • @mikemcconville2495
    @mikemcconville2495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It’s just plain old discrimination

  • @dustdeviltaz
    @dustdeviltaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well.... it doesn't exist till it happens to you. In the 1980s I was a union craft person for a major telecom company in the USA . I was injured off the job and unable to do physical work. I was sent to work in the business office. After six weeks the two managers a reported to and their boss all wrote letters to my boss to suggest that I should be promoted to management. I took the three letters to my 2nd level boss and this was his response. " I'm sorry you have the wrong thing between your legs". With in six months
    half of the 1st level managers , who were all men, promoted from craft to management with more than twenty years experience each. Replaced by women from non management jobs, and no craft experience.

    • @christinamoxon
      @christinamoxon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The reverse has happened in teaching (young kids) here. When I just graduated to teach there were 50+ applicants per job. If we went to tour a school with a few other hopefuls, and a guy walked in, we knew he'd get the job - and checking the school websites supported this. Now, they're all in high level teaching positions and a good number of them shouldn't be. It was part of the drive to get 'more men in teaching'. Situations like this and the one you outlined cause more problems than they solve. I'm tired of it. The Trust I work as a governor for is under pressure to hire more ethnic minorities because their senior level management is mostly (not entirely) white. In my local area, ethnic minorities they make up less than 1% of the population. It's insane to expect them to have 20-50% representation in the company with less than 1% representation in the area. It's a load of rubbish.

  • @damienmead8691
    @damienmead8691 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Equality of opportunity. Not equality of outcome. No discrimination.

  • @rebeccas751
    @rebeccas751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Children of all races from lower-income homes need to be included in inclusion and diversity policies.

  • @grahammewburn
    @grahammewburn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    We are all entitled to a different opinion.
    I'm opposed to smoking.
    I have friends who smoke.
    I believe in God's moral standards.
    I invited people to my wedding who reject God's Word.
    We all have freedom to choose our views.

  • @PhilConradie
    @PhilConradie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The irony is that she is speaking from a place of privilege 😂

  • @serverlan763
    @serverlan763 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    She deserves to be unemployed and now she is..

  • @mac2658
    @mac2658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Twist it twist it until it falls the way you want.

  • @Noland55
    @Noland55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    How about merit? Does that count anymore? For your information, I am brown. I have never had a problem.

    • @christinamoxon
      @christinamoxon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Merit hasn't counted a a while now. It's all about race, colour, gender etc. Which is the opposite of what we should be trying to achieve.

  • @MikeFields83
    @MikeFields83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Look humans will always be humans meaning they will not like a certain group of other humans because they look and act differently it’s just in our DNA we can’t help it but we are trying. Even people who say they don’t discriminate at all are lying we all discriminate in some degree not just out of hate but out of caution. I don’t think there will ever be a day that all humans will get along equally just like how all animals will never get along.

    • @TheHorseshoePartyUK
      @TheHorseshoePartyUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I somewhat agree, but my preferred slightly different version is one of my finest maxims: "We are *all* screeching chimps. Those who don't know they are, or else don't care, and won't even try to contain it, screw everything up for the rest of us"

  • @clarenas1625
    @clarenas1625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Reverse discriminarion doesn't exist? Deny reality.

  • @jospargo8417
    @jospargo8417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Often you can be judged by ‘fit’ with existing group. When that group is uncomfortable working with someone who they perceive as different, that’s when we have a problem. I feel so lucky to work in a diverse workplace because I’m enjoying the sameness of our humanity while celebrating the differences of our cultures.

    • @Golfr2020
      @Golfr2020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But you still have the human right to choose on your personal preferences.
      No one has the right in dictating those to another

    • @jeffreyconner2937
      @jeffreyconner2937 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Golfr2020 I would much rather someone dictate tolerance and open mindedness than bigotry and hate any day.

  • @rizmacadillac
    @rizmacadillac ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People drove me nuts when I was growing up and even into attempting to find employment after College. Even IN college I was taught that the "system" did not work and the "system" (if there is a system) needed to be changed. My parents were especially critical. I don't think they spoke with my teachers or if they did my teachers spoke with forked tongue and confused my parents. But I have come to believe that my hard work as a kid was marginalized and my words confused and much of my life ruined because America could do it to me through Reverse Discrimination. What would I like to do with my life if I had my choice of doing everything I "wanted". I can imagine things like College Teaching, acting, running for President, owning a successful business, and much more if I could do what I wanted but basically I studied Economics which looked safe and looked marketable and to be honest while I saw complexities in Economic Teaching a lot of people tried to twist complexity into a disaster for me. They probably can't obviously discriminate against everyone because that might cause people to join together and rally against reverse discrimination but they can hurt people if they want and sometimes this is what they want. People have suggested returning to school but you should get an education at today's prices because you want it and if you know you need the money then you should also do it for money. I have taken a long time to come to this conclusion and what gets particularly confusing is Religion. Basically Religions want you to volunteer and work for free but if you need the money then this does not work. As a student of Economics it is difficult enough to learn that more and more money is going to the wealthiest Americans (without getting radical over it all) but asking me to work for free ... sure I may not be worth anything and all but working for free voluntarily surely diminishes my value and judgement. I'm willing to do my share but what sort of sane person refuses money? And to be honest I don't trust anyone or any institution. Nobody. I still recall my dad complaining that I was trying to use my education. Well, why spend the money if you don't use it? Of course, he's complained when I've taken certain contracts as well. He claimed he would not have worked for these contractors even though they were the only game around. I know I am just one person and basically powerless, but it's always been this way. Discrimination. Everyone complaining constantly when there's nothing I can really do to satisfy them.

  • @gregjones1867
    @gregjones1867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    17 minute Hissy Fit.

  • @chrisbeauchamp5563
    @chrisbeauchamp5563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I can understand her points on reverse discrimination. She loses me though with generic white jokes especially about the board playing golf while getting upset about reverse discrimination. These presentations just do not help the problem. Most people that get to board level work incredibly hard and make the most of the opportunity given. It’s highly competitive. It’s hard to listen to someone talk about discrimination when their words are of a discriminatory basis. Identifying peoples prime traits by race and the generic jokes about and comments about race. This is what caused the problem in the first place. I would advise some research on South Africa, I’ve never lived there but heard many stories from people that fled. I’ve got no comment personally other than it’s not comparable to Australian governance or corporate policy.
    Interesting listen it is always worth hearing another views.

    • @garyarthurs
      @garyarthurs ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I share your view about the discrimination on display by the speaker, of all people.

    • @stevejeffery3112
      @stevejeffery3112 ปีที่แล้ว

      Listen to it again and actually listen this time.

    • @chrisbeauchamp5563
      @chrisbeauchamp5563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevejeffery3112 that is not a very good point. Would you like to be more specific?

    • @stevejeffery3112
      @stevejeffery3112 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisbeauchamp5563 No. It is what you get. Go and listen again.

    • @chrisbeauchamp5563
      @chrisbeauchamp5563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevejeffery3112 👎

  • @mrawesome2742
    @mrawesome2742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Ratio incoming

  • @sub_par3174
    @sub_par3174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have very rarely heard of “reverse discrimination” as a legitimate threat amongst the majority groups of the populous I have only heard the term used in the theoretical sense as if some policies could potentially lead to majority groups being unfairly disadvantaged, although this may simply be the view in America as I am sure Australia has a different perception of culture. It seem the primary narrative that has been shown to me has been discrimination of minority groups. With that being said I feel very fortunate to have come across this video and I hope to integrate both the counterpoints to “reverse discrimination” and the concept of “reverse discrimination” itself when considering future topics considering race, and other characteristic markers which have historically compromised a minority of the population.

    • @kayleeh8140
      @kayleeh8140 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or just be beaten for the color of your skin by a gang. Not too many white gangs though.

    • @sub_par3174
      @sub_par3174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kayleeh8140 Could you clarify what you mean by that?

    • @gfy2979
      @gfy2979 ปีที่แล้ว

      the worst discrimination has always been to the poor and their lack of connections to the rich world

  • @CandyCoated96
    @CandyCoated96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Sadly that doesn't always happen. It's usually "who ya know" or who "favors" you. And that's the world we live in. I have dealt with this so much. I had superviors who didn't even know why they were chosen to be supervisors. I had a few tell me when I was younger. That's how America is set up. I have gotten jobs as a young girl because the boss said I was "pretty." Not that I was qualified but that I was pretty. And did I deserve it? No, but I can admit socially that race, looks, and everything besides being qualified can get you the job. Studies show people are even discriminated by their names etc. Cycles in society exist because men in power hate to acknowledge discrimination or acknowledge privilege because it makes them uncomfortable. Being a token minority is just that. "WE didn't want you here, but don't want to look like we are discriminating." So they hire a qualified person of color; who they would of never hired, less laws of discrimination were in place. This "token" usually is dealt a very hostile environment and is representation of diversity (and they know it).
    The best person for the job should get it, nomatter what ethnicity/race etc they are made to put down on a job application. It took the same amount of years and experience and those best qualified should be chosen to showcase their skills without discrimination

    • @jeffryglenn7024
      @jeffryglenn7024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're like a worker bee complaining she's not the queen.
      You imagine a world of entitlement, not merit. Stop expecting, stop thinking you're deserving. Own your choices, dare to take risks, create value... and you'll be amazed what happens.
      As for the patriarchy.... look around, wake up, study history. Societies are built by men, and survive because men lay down their lives to protect you.
      You're welcome to go to battle with me, but I won't hold my breath.

    • @ZeitungsmanHD
      @ZeitungsmanHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jeffryglenn7024 cringe bro (last two lines especially)

  • @xaviera.2191
    @xaviera.2191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first step to anti racism is stopping using the term race for humans...

    • @grantstratton2239
      @grantstratton2239 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. This. I wish we talked about ethnicity instead and treated it basically like a subculture.

  • @Zachajewia1110
    @Zachajewia1110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Reverse discrimination is just regular discrimination that exist bc you originally felt discriminated against so are now choosing to discriminate against the people you felt discriminated against you.

  • @JB-fs3cq
    @JB-fs3cq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Words do hurt. If people could stop making blanket statements about straight white men it’d be nice. We’re not all bad. The way people phrase these comments make it out like we are though.

    • @CandyCoated96
      @CandyCoated96 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Things need to change and when those who do have privilege fail to acknowledge it...they inheritedly suffer those who are dealt the hand of oppression and discrimination. But I get it, most humans will never give up a privileged or right. So it's easier to support the system that supports you and turn a blind eye to statistics that don't benefit you. It's not about hurt feelings as she says. It's about acknowledgement if a truth. If I have privilege, than it is inspired by someone's being disadvantaged.
      Definition of racism
      By Mariam Webster
      1: a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

    • @TerrinX
      @TerrinX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      People know that, but you gotta realize it's not about you. Even if you're the best most understanding and well intentioned unbiased white guy, it's not about "you".
      Not about your personal image. It has nothing to do with you.
      "Not all straight cis white guys are bad" is said by people who've completely missed the point, it's not about who's bad and who's good.
      Being good and being bad doesn't affect your privileges. You have them regardless.

    • @CandyCoated96
      @CandyCoated96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TerrinX 100%. It's easy for people to feel it's a personal attack. When all it really is, is an opportunity for those with privilege to self reflect and shed light on injustices. Nobody alive today did anything to create these privileges but many of us help sustain them and get mad at others for pointing them out, because it makes us uncomfortable. Also then you have those who flat out will deny any privilege because they know it exist yet benefit from systems being set in their favor.

    • @TerrinX
      @TerrinX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CandyCoated96 Couldn't have said it better myself

  • @SDBentley01
    @SDBentley01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My question is this: why do we think we need to legislate diversity in predominantly white cultures, but not in say Asia, or India, or Africa, or South America? Why is such diversity apparently only important for Western cultures? Is it because they're predominantly white? Should we really care that they are?

    • @businessintraining2262
      @businessintraining2262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually this is happening in some of the countries mentioned. Policies to round up and restrict those of a different race to the mainstream. You hear about it more in places like Australia as real steps are being made to become fair and equitable. Recalibrations just take time.

    • @SDBentley01
      @SDBentley01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@businessintraining2262 Maybe so. I just think diversity of thought is far more important than diversity of skin color. I don't really care about that, and I'm sure most folks don't in this day and age.

  • @grayghostoutdoors1380
    @grayghostoutdoors1380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    What a joke! 🤣

  • @lyndyloo675
    @lyndyloo675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A bus goes past my house to pick up an indigenous Australian to take him/her to school but when I ask hey can they pick up my son/daughter as well? I’m told sorry, your child has no indigenous ancestry. You say there is no such thing as reverse racism and I agree it’s plain old racism against non indigenous Australian children!!!

  • @thedoover6520
    @thedoover6520 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wasn’t hired because I’m white. There’s no humor in this for me

  • @Mpactpics
    @Mpactpics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I came to listen to your talk because I care deeply about people who are not treated ________. I'll let you add the word there because evidently intricacies of some words carry meaning for you, while others don't. The desires of this author would have been much more believable had there not been so many stereo typical jokes about people with lighter skin. The point that stood out most to me was the idea of a 'change of power.' if that is the objective, you've found your obstacle. No living being wants to lose power. Realigned as desire to correct disadvantage might gain more followers without creating a framework of haves and have nots. Your analogy of having a token free shopping experience creating a free and open market experience is flawed. The idea of tokens is simply to create order and insure shoppers do their part by putting things back where they got them. Tokens create responsability, order and reduces costs. This could have been an enlightening talk, but it wasn't clearly thought out and only contributes to the problem.

    • @makkeau70
      @makkeau70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So do you think that the privilege and power of white cis-men is justified and should not be balanced? It was said in the tedtalk but here it is again: when you are being treated better than others for no reason and then get treated equally, it feels like discrimination because you lose privileges, when in reality it is finally giving the discriminated people a chance. How is this idea ”only contributing to the problem”?

    • @Mpactpics
      @Mpactpics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hannesRSA that depends on if equality is equal representation, or equal opportunity. Every human being on this earth is equal. The fact that we can sit around and philosophize on TH-cam after watching Ted talks puts us all in a category that should be considered filled with opportunity. Creating categories and quotas isn't what I would want. There's no use pretending to have a solution. Because of our corrupt nature there will always be people poisoning the koolaid no matter what we do.

    • @Mpactpics
      @Mpactpics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Kaas1202 absolutely not the case.

  • @mirilorchid3777
    @mirilorchid3777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the diversity and inclusion does not usually cover the need to extend a fair behaviour to people with a disability or the discrimination against age.

  • @Billabonggg2011
    @Billabonggg2011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This comment section is literally proving her point.

  • @Semper_Iratus
    @Semper_Iratus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just remember you are a unrelenting victim of an unjust system, and you’ll be fine.

  • @amondberzal6195
    @amondberzal6195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sometimes i think that TEDx talks was sold to someone like BBC and some speakers talks about blullshit.

  • @PrimeBallard
    @PrimeBallard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I personally, as a straight white cis male who humbly recognizes their own exceptional education, smell a sense of desperation here.
    Edit: and hypocrisy

  • @MamaMilkBubbles
    @MamaMilkBubbles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the people who do not resonate with what she is saying are the ones who are offended, but I could be wrong. But seriously, who's offended by this video presentation and why? Honest questions.

  • @BridgetMayAljasser
    @BridgetMayAljasser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I was a Democrat for 25 years, but no more!

    • @shaybee6893
      @shaybee6893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes! Xo

    • @lilpenguin092
      @lilpenguin092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      welcome to the Tea Party

    • @BridgetMayAljasser
      @BridgetMayAljasser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lilpenguin092 I'm not sure what I consider myself. I'm definitely voting Republican this year, but I'm not necessarily sure that's how I "identify." Lol. Democrats are out of control. I'll never vote for a Democrat again. Maybe I'm an independent? Idk. I just know I'm not okay with what happened to the Democrat party over the last 10 years.

    • @gregorypaul7898
      @gregorypaul7898 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BridgetMayAljasser what happened to the Democrat party over the last 10 years? Did they try to overthrow democracy in an insurrection or something?

    • @some_random_wallaby
      @some_random_wallaby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BridgetMayAljasser Then don't identify that way? Seems an oddly American phenomena that you all feel the need to make your political affiliation part of your core identity. Not trying to sling mud, just pointing out there's no need to be that way in the first place.

  • @fizzbinboyd9547
    @fizzbinboyd9547 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We will never be able to have honest discussions about DEI as long as proponents claim that reverse discrimination does not exist. It takes 5 minutes to disprove this claim.

  • @patil8302
    @patil8302 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Racism isnt born but its taught😢😢

    • @echelon2k8
      @echelon2k8 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's because babies aren't old enough to have gained any wisdom from experience.

  • @aaronjennings8385
    @aaronjennings8385 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tokenism occurs when an employer advertises a job opening primarily to fulfill legal or regulatory requirements, such as equal opportunity laws, but has no genuine intention of hiring a candidate from a diverse background. Instead, they often prefer to hire someone from their own country of origin or a specific demographic group. This practice undermines the spirit of diversity and inclusion initiatives, as it creates a false impression of equal opportunities while maintaining a biased hiring process.
    Tokenism is indicated when job requirements include thing like mastery of Mandarin Chinese at a Canadian petrol station.

  • @sknmrowley
    @sknmrowley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bullcrap. There is absolutely reverse discrimination. Many people love it.

  • @eddyimpanis
    @eddyimpanis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That’s a lie! Reverse discrimination certainly exists. Hateful people exist in minorities as well, and they do use any method available to exercise their hatred.

  • @stevejeffery3112
    @stevejeffery3112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    well said.

  • @objectivelyobserving6434
    @objectivelyobserving6434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As a South African, thank you for sharing your bookshop experience.

    • @FizzLeeague
      @FizzLeeague ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can’t tell if you disapprove or approve of her message, but I suspect this comment was cutting rather than complimentary 😂

  • @JK_JK_JK_JK
    @JK_JK_JK_JK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    👍 White Lives Matter Too!!! 👍

    • @awareyah6146
      @awareyah6146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So why do you all lie to each other and everyone else but most importantly when you all do you all are leading yourselves to destruction when it's all said and done

    • @awareyah6146
      @awareyah6146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ALL FOR THE LOVE verse... AwareYAH also lemon Pepper freestyle, PROVERBS 14:15 PROVERBS 15:14

    • @vanesagirasol9364
      @vanesagirasol9364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @lilpenguin092
      @lilpenguin092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      YE YE!!!

  • @anthonybradford2065
    @anthonybradford2065 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can't wait for ted to host a series of compelling speeches that reveal this kind of rhetoric for what it is... Parasitical

  • @NoirFilleChante
    @NoirFilleChante ปีที่แล้ว

    The demographics of people spamming this comment section is proving her point lol

  • @anodominate
    @anodominate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Let me remind No human or creature on this universe has colour. It's just reflection at different fields. So There isn't such word like Racism.

  • @BrianMcInnis87
    @BrianMcInnis87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the word reverse doing there and what were the people who put it there under the impression it meant?

  • @hubrishappenstance2023
    @hubrishappenstance2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    😆 some break out in hives, some break out in maniacal laughter! 🤣🤣🤣😘🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @kelvindean455
    @kelvindean455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    From my own understanding, you need to invest wisely, if you need the good things of life. so far i've made over $470k in raw profits from just q4 of the market from my diversified portfolio strategy and i believe anyone can do it you have the right strategy. mutual funds takes a while but investing wisely is the key for short term. Most of us pay more attention to the easy position in the market to the cost of proper diversification.

    • @francisca.6217
      @francisca.6217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My first investment with Ms.Catherine R Linda gave Lynne profit of over $ 98,000 US and since then she has never failed to deliver and I can even say that she is the most sincere broker I have ever met.

    • @francisca.6217
      @francisca.6217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think I am blessed because if I had not met someone as spectacular as the expert Ms. Catherine R Linda

    • @francisca.6217
      @francisca.6217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She helped me regain what I lost trying to change

    • @francisca.6217
      @francisca.6217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think she's the best runner I've ever seen

    • @francisken5557
      @francisken5557 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@francisca.6217 Yes, I am also a living testimony of the expert Ms Catherine R Linda has changed my financial situation for the better, all thanks to my aunt who introduced her to me.

  • @StEaLtHMel0n
    @StEaLtHMel0n ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's so frustrating listening to this bs

  • @johnlockett8878
    @johnlockett8878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Just seen the crowd.. all the masks.. 😂😂

    • @poizen-ivy
      @poizen-ivy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pandemics are hilarious.

    • @jonoharper4729
      @jonoharper4729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@poizen-ivy Especially if they are planned emic

    • @antikytheramechanism7909
      @antikytheramechanism7909 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@poizen-ivy But studies show the masks do nothing unless they are N95 or greater. Looking around, none of these masks are doing anything but making us feel a pseudomoralization.

    • @jonoharper4729
      @jonoharper4729 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kaas1202 Don't forget you're scheduled for your next hypnosis session tomorrow, it's a group session with your entire herd 🐏🐑🐑🐏
      😂😂

    • @aurora_skye
      @aurora_skye 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ???

  • @businessintraining2262
    @businessintraining2262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Data doesn't lie. For a recalibration and balance to take place, we must all make personal sacrifices to lift us up as a whole (global) community. I grew up in a very multicultural area and it just worked. It wasn't until I went into a predominantly white area that I saw segmentation and hostility. Antoinette, you should be very proud of this TEDTalk.

  • @hiepkhach9988
    @hiepkhach9988 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @JakeRoselli
    @JakeRoselli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Yawn 🥱

  • @varshilpatel4100
    @varshilpatel4100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks 👍

  • @mightyknight
    @mightyknight 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    White people are actually going through racism in South Africa. I learned this from a white South African lady who left her country for a better life in Australia.

  • @Nickname006
    @Nickname006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Equity starts in schools. Put money to the public schooling system and give every child an opportunity for education.

    • @lilpenguin092
      @lilpenguin092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i read a comment about diversity and inclusivity being likened to sin and called that the funniest comment. this one tops it by miles lol

  • @daxhax-housemusicproducer4190
    @daxhax-housemusicproducer4190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YES SOUTHPARK

  • @tom-vx1lp
    @tom-vx1lp ปีที่แล้ว

    this was 9 months ago

  • @vanessavasconcellos29
    @vanessavasconcellos29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I see some comments completly ignoring a very important data she mentions right at the begining: DATA shows that certain groups are more easily hired; not because of competence, but just because it has always been like this. So implementing D&I policies, acts on changing these blind spots. Saying that keeping things as they are now will push innovation and creativity is so contradictive, to say the least!

    • @oplkfdhgk
      @oplkfdhgk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Where is that data? I would like to see it. Can you give me a timestamp?

    • @ikipata
      @ikipata 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They are not ignoring the fact that there is discrimination. They are sayng that the solution is not different kind of discrimination

    • @Lan-Las
      @Lan-Las 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don’t think the grounds of this data boils down to simple discrimination. Correlation does not equal causation, so basically everything she talks about besides the data is her personal interpretation, which is valid but not necessarily true universally.
      I personally think that the grounds for this “unequal” statistic goes deeper into the education system in Australia and which kids get opportunities from an early age. From there on the issue snowballs into topics like immigration, socioeconomic status, contacts, higher education, and PERHAPS race as well including other demographic qualities.

    • @lukehanson_
      @lukehanson_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think you should read some Thomas Sowell

    • @leemartin9345
      @leemartin9345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lan-Las you clearly haven't read the studies. They are not correlational analyses, they use experimental study designs, which is the scientific way establish causation.

  • @RoseMary-gl4ee
    @RoseMary-gl4ee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    VERY NEEDED explanation

  • @rosylens4978
    @rosylens4978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Despite the cultural changes that have predominantly disgusted parents with their children through the ages, the universal melting pot of offensive preferences, each generation proves how change is inevitable. Guidance and control for children has lessened with govt interference, used by the powerful to ensure decisive measures for their own gain.

  • @jejuj3985
    @jejuj3985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In America no one needs a token! 🇺🇸🛒👏🏿👏🏾👏🏽👏🏼👏🏻👏

  • @tom-vx1lp
    @tom-vx1lp ปีที่แล้ว

    its an evolution not a revolution, pipe down and let it happen. change that is

  • @Schubeedoobee
    @Schubeedoobee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Confrontationality is woke... drop that into your hissy fititus.

  • @Golfr2020
    @Golfr2020 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Reverse racism or discrimination does exist and is ripe and flourishing in Australia. There are always some that will pretend otherwise wise. It is called DENIAL.
    If you look in your dictionary. The words...REVERSE ..... DISCRIMINATION....RACISM
    are not imaginary.

  • @holyknightsirtjhd1855
    @holyknightsirtjhd1855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This one is gonna turn some heads

    • @Gg-ij7li
      @Gg-ij7li 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesus loves you all!!
      Remember that He died and rose up again for you to be in heaven with Him! Believe on His name and repent of your sins and be saved!
      Have an amazing day ❤️

    • @edwardcardozo8325
      @edwardcardozo8325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      More like eyes

    • @benjamindover4337
      @benjamindover4337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It is turning stomachs.

    • @holyknightsirtjhd1855
      @holyknightsirtjhd1855 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edwardcardozo8325 they especially lmao

  • @user-yk5xu8gr1e
    @user-yk5xu8gr1e 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh shut up! If given a choice people just choose their race and caste and stuff so some tokenism is necessary.

  • @timothysatyr6674
    @timothysatyr6674 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very discreet dog whistle to be wary of

  • @biggoards2772
    @biggoards2772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, this woman has some very bad and misguided takes. But it's "her" experience so whatever. Just don't expect people to give a 💩 or take it to heart (😑 I know I don't).

  • @lilpenguin092
    @lilpenguin092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i just can't wait for the days South Park foretold and the Goobacks lol. The fact these issues still exist after globalization prove (to me) that we do not deserve to leave the boundaries of this planet and we reap the fruits of the seeds we've sown and nurtured.

  • @charlescharlestt6379
    @charlescharlestt6379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Diversity and inclusion is just another way to say sin and rebellion.👍👍👍👍

    • @lilpenguin092
      @lilpenguin092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is the funniest comment on this video so far lol

  • @JonnyDarko602
    @JonnyDarko602 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    But it is actually happening

  • @summervibes9931
    @summervibes9931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's not reverse discrimination, it's discrimination.

  • @overpass2628
    @overpass2628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    🗑 🗑 🗑 🗑 🗑 🗑

  • @ami_dent9848
    @ami_dent9848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Trigger warning ⚠️
    Racists and xenophobes are allergic to this video 😂😂

  • @patil8302
    @patil8302 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually u said reverse discrimination and where it is comming ..let me tell u it is predominant in industry of acting...cz in my country india i never seen a person is darker got opportunity to show their talent ....m asking u all is it reverse discrimination still exists

  • @PrettyFourU1
    @PrettyFourU1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sometimes
    you let go of
    people without
    even noticing.
    You stop thinking of them
    every day. You stop waiting for them to
    reply to you. You stop allowing them to
    take up so much space in your life.
    You move on, you go about your day
    without worrying about them.
    You stop expecting them to come
    back with an apology. You accept
    that they are no longer a part of
    your life. You just let them go,

    • @FStandsForFun
      @FStandsForFun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That includes you did not have an intimate bond with them in the first place.

  • @nkrt-aln
    @nkrt-aln 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow

  • @israelc5320
    @israelc5320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    People are really getting triggered 😭

    • @CandyCoated96
      @CandyCoated96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fear. Truth can do that because it convicts. And in order for change to happen people have to acknowledge some hard truths. People aren't ready to acknowledge those hard truths and are fearful of what change means for them. So it's better for the to turn an blind eye, get upset and act out.

  • @BTK.92
    @BTK.92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice part from life with discuss

  • @oldbot64
    @oldbot64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow some people are really entitled.