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Is the Ravens Offense a Sleeping Giant? | NFL Game Tape Breakdown by Kurt Warner
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ต.ค. 2023
- The Ravens passing offense is doing a lot of good things, but it's still a work in progress.
I tweeted earlier this week that I was watching the Ravens pass game and although they threw for a bunch of yards, it’s still not smooth and connected. It’s kind of clunky right now. Spacing isn’t great, as guys seem to be trying to figure out where they’re supposed to be…what the with the timing of different plays. I’ve gotten a lot of feedback from Ravens fans out there like “what are you talking about?! You have no idea…everybody’s saying it’s one of the best pass offenses in the league!” Yes, they’re putting up yards…and a lot of that is because of Lamar Jackson being able to work through the issues and make plays. But I just think they have a long way to go. Mark Andrews told me a couple weeks ago that he thinks they’re a sleeping giant, and I feel the same way. They’re putting up 300+ yards in the pass game and they’re not there yet. So, I’m gonna take you into the tape and show you what I’m seeing and then you can come back and tell me whether I’m crazy or not! Let’s dive into the tape. #lamarjackson #ravens #nfl
Good stuff Kurt. Looking forward to having you on the show!
That’s scary. For LJ8 to be so good despite the offense still figuring it out strengthens his MVP claim imo. When this offense get in sync🤯🤯🤯.
This was actually a great breakdown! Lamar is playing phenomenal, hope this offense continues to improve week in and out. Go Ravens 💜🖤
I saw you in your prime in St. Louis at the Edward Jones Dome and remember how smooth, seamless and UNSTOPPABLE that offense was. The fact that you've revealed the Ravens offense has far greater potential than what we've seen has me really excited!!
Appreciate this breakdown Kurt! Its incredible that Lamar is making plays when his weapons aren't executing like theyre supposed to yet. He seemed dissatisfied after the game and the tape makes that make sense, he knows that there is still much work to be done. Credit though to the o-line for holding up in pass pro and giving him the time to do what he needs to do.
Okay I see it now & it makes more sense why Lamar was upset after the game. I knew there was still room for improvement but... not being a HoFamer... didn't see the roughness you did.
Please do a show with Bobby Baltimore or come on The Vault. Thanks for this breakdown. I believe we'll get there too. Thanks!
I watched the entire video. Ravens fans, he has alot of valid points. We have seen the clunkyness during Lamar entire career with us. Don't get mad, watch the video and see that once our guys are clicking on all cylinder...my goodness we could be the AFC North champ year to year, getting to the AFC Championship, winning and winning superbowls!
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You know what, I actually agree with you and it’s a scary fact that we can still get better
I really appreciated this; you have the time to really point out the 'refinements' that Monkin, Lamar and the receivers need to hone in on to truly become respected in the league. What may have tripped you up with the fans inre: verbiage is 'clunky'...in this "All-Or-Nothing" era of reporting, people may have thought you meant 'Monkin's offense isn't working'. That said...I respect 100% where you're coming from, and what you may be seeing and would like to have happen: A Super Bowl HOF'er seeing a talent on the cusp of greatness, and knowing that the refinements necessary sometimes have to come without the 'spoonful o' sugar'. Steel sharpens steel...thanks again for this!
Great breakdown Mr. Warner. I’m a Baltimore Ravens fan, and I agree with all of your assessment of our offense, and how we need to clean it up. Thank you sir.
All 22 Films vid is better. Warner just jumping on the bandwagon because trying to remain relevant.
You’re right Kurt, we have much to improve on. The wins have blinded me so I appreciate the attention to detail, we can be so much sharper.
I do love it when people who’ve probably never even played high school football tell a hall of fame player he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Yeah I think Lamar is ahead of the rest of the offence at this point and the rest need to catch up a bit. Still a work in progress as you would expect and an offence that will get better week after week. Heading in the right direction for sure 😈
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I'm just happy we don't have 3 to 4 guys all within 5 yards of each other.
I understand exactly what you're saying because even Lamar and coaches are saying we have a lot to clean up I'm glad we are winning too but I hope we can get everything cleaned up and then we will start passing for four or five hundred yards a game easily 🙏🏾🙏🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Yeah they have to clean those things up if they want to have a chance to get the #1 seed and dethrone the Chiefs in the playoffs. That poor spacing creates too many flashbacks about the previous breakdowns under the old offense. Although it's obviously a lot more motion and spacing and sensible route combos overall, its definitely still a work in progress that Lamar has severely masked. Great breakdown because he can't be expected to make heroic play to #4th and #5th read every time because the time to do so wont always be there.
This is actually good. I was going to say "Oh another hater" but I think this type of criticism could lead the Ravens to the promised land. If the coaches take the criticism and make adjustments we could be in for a wild ride. So thank you to Kurt.
Don’t take it personal Kurt! I think ravens fans just take everything personal when it comes to anything Lamar. We’ve heard how he can’t read defenses can’t pass and etc. We’re just super protective over him. Love the Jedi profile picture btw!
No we don't not all of us. We only take it personal when people like SAS and Shannon attack our QB character, attack him, blame him for things Lamar had no control and be a hypocrite when it comes to their favorite QBs and other QB who are not doing well.
@@33ladyRAM I agree! Well I guess I’ll speak for myself and I am definitely defensive when it comes to him
both of you are right. I'm right down the middle
Ravens fan. And yes, you are spot on. This game was an example of a concept that is just starting to work. These guys will get it figured out in another 2-3 games and I believe it's going to be a complete nightmare for defenders given Lamar's running abilities. I am hoping the Ravens can work a deal for Henry to improve our RB room a bit. I think Henry could make the Ravens pretty much unstoppable this season but I also don't want us to bet the future on a 30 year old RB either.
Great breakdown. Would love to see more ravens content in the future!
Checkout All 22 Films breakdowns instead. He smart af!
Couldn't agree more, lot of room for improvement and consistency.
This Ravens offense is looking explosive and amazing it was fun to watch 🎥🔥
But that's what not Kurt Warner said 😂😂😂😂
This is a breakdown for ages ! This guy knows his x's & o's and he is totally right about everything, it's scary because the games we've seen the past 5 years when the offense is struggling this is the reason, we have get better route combos and spacing we do t need everybody open just somebody
Your insight is excellent. The clarity on the explanation of these concepts and the way you carry yourself are second to none. Please stick with this, I cannot wait to watch your channel grow.
Great breakdown. Love your work
I'm a die hard Ravens but this was an illuminating analysis. Kurt is 100% right, we're doing a lot of things well, and the Lamar effect is covering up a lot of mistakes, but the offense still isn't where it could be. This reflects OC Todd Monken's sentiment that "we're just getting started". This team, the way it is now, with a little bit more precision and consistency in all phases of the game, is truly a force to be reckoned with. Its just that consistency thing that trips me up. We'll have a game like this only to get blown out the next week. That said, I have all the confidence in the world that even if we dont go as far as we should this season, between Monken and Macdonald, this team will be a serious contender every season for the next several seasons.
Thanks for the insight! Great breakdown.
I’m so glad stuff like this is out man so many people don’t understand football outside of sports media talking heads opinions. Breaking down concepts and spacing is critical. Lamar been having spacing issues for years with this team it’s slightly better this season but as you’ve shown they still have work to do
It still feels a little nitpcicky. But I understand your point and being about the details is how you get better 🤝🏿. Everyone is still learning so i think they'll get there in due time. Good breakdown 💯
Thanks Kurt! Anything new And good always takes time.. the flock gotta have trust in the process and have faith in each other's elite talents. Faith can move mountains!
Kurt, The problem is for you is the wording. This is the smoothest we've ever seen a Ravens offense work. We are so happy about how far we've come that asking people to touch the breaks on the party is is like someone throwing a vat of cold water on our paper match. I personally misread what you said, but I refrained from commenting 'til now.
Kurt ur channel deserves more recognition top notch in depth analysis as always👍
Great breakdown. I understand your point and I hope our offensive is going over the details and nitpicking. Once we get it to all click the sky is the limit
I mean ... kurt right😂 right there in the film study. Hopefully todd cleans it up .. spacing wise and having better routes for WRs. I seen some the routes Odell run and im like why that. Ex. Lamars int in the steelers game. I just wouldnt of picks that play and have him run that route in that situation
Lamar is seeing the whole field!
Man, I can’t believe this type of analysis is free
Thanks Kurt for the Lessons, learning alot!
Good points on all plays. However, that last one to Gus looks like a designed RPO... Bait the LB to take a step towards Lamar as Gus goes by him. All the other routes take the defenders to the other side, thus freeing up a lot of running room. If Keaton Mitchell is the RB on that play, that's an easy 6.
I believe the First play was trying to get the high low on the safety, (not the corner with the flat route) with 6 man protection and the back goes play action, to chip, to check down .. I believe he’s reading deep the entire play. Safety drop to TE you take the deep in, safety drops back you throw the middle over. The backers are up because you have to respect the play action and full pass pro. Love the channel Kurt!
Three months on, Kurt was still correct. The beauty is, this team is so good, they cleaned a lot of that up, and #8 is still making plays… Jackson was livid because the wrs were lot in the first half against Texas. They fixed that at 1/2 time and rolled.
Cluuuuuuky! Thanks Mr. Warner! Go Ravens!
Its for sure in the process of waking up, which obviously makes me happy as a fan of the team.
Ravens fan here. You're right. Not surprising that this is where they are. 7th game in new system. I think they're going to get it together by the end of the season, but they have to win enough games to get to the playoffs while they're hammering it out. We'll see.
BTW, I don't think Ravens fans are any different from others when it comes to criticism. I don't think the talking heads help this out. And twitter or X or whatever is too limiting. The guy who shot back at you with the West Coast offense was a macaron (that's not a misspelling).
The 3 things I wanna see Lamar get better at:
1. Being able to make short outside throws to checkdowns and hitting them in their chests or hands instead of 3 yards away from them on the ground.
2. Getting more air under the ball instead of on a rope passes that are almost always overthrown.
3. Better timing on timing routes. Sometimes he waits a little too long for curls and whatnot. That ball should be thrown while Lamar sees the back of his receivers jersey and the ball in the air by the time the receiver turns around for his route, the ball is already there.
Edit: I'm gonna add another. I wanna see Lamar consistently thrown the ball at least 30 times a game.
Re: edit, no. You want Lamar to be like every other QB, and we do not want him predictable as he was under Roman. I don't want him running 100 yards or passing over 30 a game, every game. If he is doing either the team and the OC aren't doing their jobs.
100% agree with this. There are so many deep balls that Lamar misses out on not just this game but many games due to timing or spacing or not enough pocket time. When this things click it will get better
When looking at the film Kurt makes a lot of sense the plays work but you could see the spacing is not good. Sorry for bashing you Kurt I thought you was hating on Lamar 😩😩
Whichever fans are mad about this comment or breakdown are not looking for perfection, they just want praise.. I’m only a fan and not a player but I’d bet that every O player would agree with this.. they want to be perfect and any criticism in a single play would help
Good stuff. Work in progress.
Mr HOF is spot on. They have not reached their potential. The things that can be improved on are very doable. The talent is present.
Great analysis. If Lamar wasn't the QB it would be far worse
You can say that about a lot of quarterbacks 😭💀💀💀
@@phillybound3351 not really
@@lloyd1821 yes really we seen what teams look like without their starting quarterback 💀
@@phillybound3351 you don't get it. Like lamars receivers. Lol
@@lloyd1821 no you don’t get it you just yapping like a female 💀
I'm a Ravens fan and to even think that people are questioning what Kurt Warner is saying, A FRIGGIN' HALL OF FAMER, is crazy to me. I agree with his evaluation of the Ravens. They're not quite there. YET.
you guys who disagreed obviously didn’t watch the game or just don’t understand football. lamar was hardly hitting his first read which means something isn’t right
Lamar knows everything he said, I'm sure he will get it smooth and unstoppable.LETS GO RAVENS BEAT THE CARDINAL'S!!
This is exactly what Lamar was talking about .. this is why he wasn’t so pumped up about the win.. Lamar really is elite!! I be glad when the rest of the offense get fully on board
It looks like a team learning a new offense… It will be okay that’s why they practice
Kurt is absolutely on point
If they can peak at the end of the season, they are gonna be scary
Great take Kurt! 👊🏽👊🏽
I understand Kurt complaining about Route Spacing but it feels like nitpicking. I'm sure you could find some spacing issues with 75% of NFL. But .. its nitpicking
Not really... the spacing issue... where Lamar to throw there... could create turnovers. Plus as he said sometimes the job is to clear out an area for someone else to get free... spacing issues get in the w way of that. It's the kind of "small" thing that could create a huge problem/ weakness in the playoffs. So... it's as important to overcome as the handoff issues. Lamar is playing elite. The rest of the offense needs to do the work to match that.
Given the point he’s actually trying to make, I don’t think it is. I think him saying they’re not even at full potential when already putting up points like this is a huge compliment. And that seems to be Lamar’s attitude as well. Everyone knows how they just embarrassed the lions. They know they can do even better
I still remember when Monken said about the offense " We're not there yet"
Ain’t nothing wrong with wanting to be better. Plays definitely look clunky and unfortunately Lamar had been dealing with that his entire NFL career. Gotta get timing and space down, it’ll progress for sure
Great breakdown.
Amazes me how social media tells a Hall of Famer that he has no idea what he’s talking about 😂
That will be our strengths forcing the defense to pick their poison while opening passing lanes operation confusion!
Ummm? It's only the 8th game of the season and with an entirely new offence...Ive been satisfied with the overall season...Stupid mistakes cost them the two losses...But they are showing what true team work and love of your job can do...Go Ravens!!!!!
My boy kurt!!!
I hope this follows the same pattern as Kyle Shanahan’s offense in Atlanta; year 1 was good, not great, but year 2 was 🔥
This helps explains the games where offensive line isn’t playing well, no time to get to his 4th and 5th reads. Coverage sacks
Ravens have basically always had issues with spacing.
That Quarterback is our QB1 fixing things cuz he is a leader. But it explains why he was not happy on Sunday.
Kurt could you do a breakdown or blueprint video for the chiefs 2023 defense..
The spacing is what’s really worrying if you have a great defense, the throws will be difficult.
Anyway their potential pretty stands out.
On the first play, Isn't that back side corner filling into the middle field safety that jumps the sail route by Andrews to help on the post by OBJ. Would that explain why Lamar throws the deep in.
This aged well
Why didn’t you highlight the great concept plays that they did run
Because all the media coverage is about our great execution, hes trying to provide a unbiased opinion. Ravens a really good but can be sharper
I agree, if they get the details cleaned up the sky is the limit.
The RB should have run a 2 step flat and they were manipulating the 2 inside LBs to get them to either come up or stay flat to hit the dig like he did behind them. I don’t agree with that assessment as the 2 ILBs were the guys playing off it was not a run to manipulate the OLB that was the bait with the guard doing a pull sit block. The pass to Mark was an option route he could read it and they were not on the same page on that play. Mark is free styling, and he did not run the correct route. But the play is also to go to Bate on the backside comeback still easy money. On that play with Mark, he should have sold the route more before breaking out, but the RB should also run a flair or 2 steps in and then out to give it more time to develop. It was a part of the game plan given late and maybe that is why but with 500+ offensive yards later are hard to argue with.
But I do agree it is a lot of room to grow and get better, so that only means they have not reached their peak and still have a lot of runs to grow which is scary and serves to put the NFL on notice. He is right about the RB he should flair to the other side or sit for the dump or 2 steps up and out like you were running in training camp. You just tighten it up and you have the concepts that fit with the identity you want.
thank you. i’ve said this before the spacing and coming off of routes is not that great .
Kurt was cooking
This further strengthens Lamar’s MVP case. This offense can be legendary if they start clicking on all cylinders.
Yea it's not a fine tune machine as yet. The good part is this video, will help them get back in the lab
2nd play u was exactly right zay is a rookie though im sure they will discuss this while watching the tape
So you're saying this clunky offense has the chance to get better :)
Exactly. Things are just beginning to click. How awesome is that!
The hi low was designed like that. It was man coverage single high safety over top. Zay was lamars 1st read and the safety takes mark andrews leaving zay wide open if the safety decides to pick zay up on the deep cross it leaves mark 1 on 1 with a line backer. Yeah theoretically u want to see mark get a little deeper with his route but u still have the x and y recievers 1 on 1 or u get mark andrews 1 on 1 with a line backer
So has mark andrews just gotten by on running random routes hoping to get open, now he’s just used to that?
Looking at 5hat film, and how Likely is running them, I’d say a little bit. Likely is as good as Andrews if not already better…
All plays aren't going to be perfect. To me spacing is all about beating the defender to create the proper spacing.
I think u cand find a handfull of plays from every team and every game like this but essentially its a brand new wr core and only 7 weeks in what worries me is they actually looked better in the Pittsburgh game as far as routes and route concepts just couldnt catch the ball. Watch the all 22 on the chiefs games u will see some of the same stuff a couple times a game any team actually
Kurt Warner have Real love for Lamar and wanna see him Super Bowl up....this is not about KC....THEY WON RINGS!...This is about us a d he is 1000 % correct a d I would love to see him on our offensive coach team one day.
@VillamarDelivery I have no disrespect for Kurt Warner but he did have arguably the best wr group ever in the NFL and it is true that u will find the same kinda things if u watch the all 22 of any team any game. There was a 3 play sample size that u can find on practically any team any game that's all I'm saying
I just feel that this video disrespect our own coaches coming from a hall of famer or not when no team is perfect and all teams have some clunkiness to them even the greatest show on turf. That's why qbs sign the big deals they are essentially paid to organize the guys and overcome occasional bad routes in wich case Mr Warner did an excellent job at with the rams
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It's week 8 when do we say the receivers are not good enough???
Huh?? Not good enough is what way?
not saying you're wrong... but I am saying that no other player or team gets this level of scrutiny -- check the mirror and verify you have a good heart
Kurt is a Lamar fan bro
@@noonecaresworkharder9125 Kurt is smart enough to say that, "bro"
Problem is andrews freelances a lot of his routes
at least Lamar is not defaulting to run
Kurt, hop on with Bobby Trossett soon.
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Poor Kurt had to make this video just for flock nation... we're a passionate bunch whose never experienced good offense outside one Joe Flacco playoff run lol be patient with us
People aren't mad because you point out this stuff...it's because he only does this type of nitpicky stuff for Lamar...even on his better games.
The Bills barely beat the giants (with some help from the refs) and just lost to the patriots...and Allen played horribly, where's the video?
Same with the chargers, Justin Herbert has been losing games and throwing 4th quarter interceptions and not getting it done when the game is in his hands, where's the video?
Burrow has also been playing bad and failing in the redzone with elite talent around him....where's the video?
But its not just Kurt as we know. On a week where Lamar was literally the highest graded QB he had people asking weather he's worth his contract...And answering "NO". And Shannon Sharpe saying he judges Lamar harsher than Allen and Herbert because of his "greatness" yet when asked if he would pick Lamar or Allen he said "I would go with Allen" and doesn't even consider Lamar a top 10 QB when asked? Lol...thats what gets raven's fans mad...because he is for whatever reason is being judged differently to a different standard and they don't even try and hide it anymore...
You’ve got a million Lamar fans in Louisville and by default we are now Ravens fans! Lamar is easily a top 3 quarterback in the league. Actually, top 2. Imagine what Lamar would do with the Bills or Eagles, scary.
BINGO!!!!! SIMPLE AS THAT
He didn’t criticize Lamar in this video once lol what are you even talking about? They’re playing great WHILE still working out the kinks of the new offense. Lamar knows it and Kurt knows it, we can do even better. It’s exciting
@@CalebRuiz pls understand..EVERY SINGLE offense has breakdowns or clankiness in every game... But its wierd to point this out after that kind if win... Pls show where he has done that before.. For herbert burrow or allen...its about being SELECTIVE not about veracity.
What does Kurt mean, THAT QB, but addresses Andrews by his name WTF!!!!! DOES KURT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH LAMAR????? SO SUSPECT????
That concept at 6:07 is so bad and why is it to the short side? Like they’re all bunched up it’s bad. Anyone criticizing you is insane
Hey Kurt I owe you an apology
He’s RIGHT!!!! And got a 💍