Gotta say, grinding for the Tortoise/Badger has been the most fun tech tree grind ever, at least for me. Literally every single tank in that line, even at stock, was a blast. Only negative was having to meet BZ's & Arnie's with my AT-15. Just unlocked the Tortoise, can't wait to play it.
I've got most of the tier X tanks and have 362 Tanks in my garage , but when you get to that stage you struggle to decide which tanks to play and quite a lot of my tanks never get played nowadays . I have fond memories of the time when I had only a few tanks and it made the game more fun to play 😎
Hey QB, I really think that you mentioning what should be better to equip on the vehicle with/without field mods is very useful, can you please do it a bit more often in your replays?
The most dangerous TD was old Obj 263 back in the day, a bit worse armour than a Tortoise, but still very nice, very good dpm - a bit lower than tort but higher alpha, waay better mobility
Yeah the old 263 was amazing. It was so underrated and extremely hard to deal with. I wish they kept the tier 10 one in as a alternative to the 268 v4.
I just got into my AT-15, the AT-8 was a lot of fun, the AT-7 became a real headache towards the end (hitting longer and longer losing streaks) this tech tree however is one where Im excited about getting to both tier IX and X, so just gotta not lose my mind during the long losing streaks that seem to be happening more and more right now.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THAT TD LINE GRIND. Some of the best Laughs I have ever had playing WOT was on that line! Ping ping PING then they blow up as their rounds bounce off ya! Love My Tort Such a great TD, none of my others compare! Just wish I was a better player!
Went head to head with one in my IS-7 yesterday, and fortunately bounced enough of his rounds to take him out, but was down to almost no HP afterwards, and used up all my gold rounds just to enter the weak spot.
Just recently got my Badger, minmaxed it with bond vents, bond rammer, and bond turbo + premium consumable. Why not get the most from the most dpm tank in the game, even thi it’s not as good as the Tortoise tier for tier. I love the lack of weakpoints on the Badger, if you hide your lower plate, you turn into a damage farming beast
In my opinion, Tortoise is good and fun to play, but its armor is not that reliable. Premium shells with 300+ mm penetration can easily pen your front armor...
6500 Damage AND five kills? That's more damage than I've ever done in this game, and I've played it for as long as you have. My damage record is 6,425 in the STRV 103-0. I broke my previous damage record of around 4,300 in the T-10 (IS8) three times in a row in the STRV and ended up at that number. I did get the T-28 Concept finally though. I got it earlier this week. Since arty got nerfed, the missions got waaaay harder, so I had taken a break. Finally jumped back into an arty and completed the final arty mission. So happy. Not sure if I'll ever be able to complete any of the other campaigns.
Certainly far and away one of the least scariest TD’s in the game. Load gold and easy pen with a plethora of weakspots to chose from Doesn’t even compare to the badger which can hold a position with the lower plate hidden, use max gun depression and laugh as neatly everything bounces whilst you farm helpless enemies with the much better alpha damage Tortoise simply can’t hold a position. It’s just freeHP now a days with everyone shooting gold
Yeah, that 1 game where you met a potato in a tortoise really reflects the potential of this tank. ‘A tier 7 IS will make life hard for a tortoise.’ Man you kids make me laugh. Your IS is a 3 shot for the Torto in 15 secs. If you are lucky you are able to fire 2 shells in that time.
@@ButchE30M3S14 belive or not but i managed send 3 gold shells and 2 normal shells to that tank destroyer. I could continiue because he was busy with tier 8 heavy tanks that moment but enemy tier 9 took me down from side :(
Foch 155 for me. almost 400 pen is a threat to be afraid of. I think people underestamate it coz all the people buying it for bonds, but I feel its a nasty thing regardless.
the most dangerous TD is the GSOR for me. It's always played by coward players waiting at the far back of the map, being useless to their team 50% of matches, but when their team start losing, and you are pushing out of that flank that just crumbled under your aggresive plays, there are the GSOR.. Unloading a 1200 damage clip in 6 seconds, screwing you over, but not saving their team because your teammates are still there to continue the push against the empty GSOR. Cowardly GSOR are the worst, can't win games but can surely ruin their teammates and one enemy's game for sure !
I actually use a Bond Rammer, a durability module, and optics on my Tort…I actually leave off a turbo, but I definitely understand why it’s needed. Either way, I LOVE my Tortoise and I’m not even bothered to get the Badger.
@@erics_TX_ Just that extra bit of view range. I kinda messed up on my crew skills and my BIA isn’t at 100% to help my commander’s Recon. I know the Tortoise isn’t exactly trying to spot things because it’s gonna be dishing it out with the heavies and whatnot, but I had it on “just in case”. Once I get my crew in order, I’m gonna drop it for a bounty turbo that I have just lying around.
T95 is better tier for tier than the Tortoise. And I'd rather play the Conway with the 120mm than this. With all the gold spam in the high tiers, I'd rather have mobility than heavy armour thats going to get penned anyways.
I do love the Badger, but no no doubt the Tortoise is WAY better tier for tier. Obviously I don't want to see the Badger buffed and over-tuned, but I feel it's pen is a bit lacking for the playstyle it has. Don't have the mobility, like a Foch, to just relocate or flank targets. So it definitively can be a bit rough at times.
My trick in surviving stock grinds is to spam gold rounds on higher tiers. using gold rounds with no premium definitely empty your earnings, but if you had lower tier tanks to farm then its fine
@BlackSwan69 My tip for you is to equip Gun rammer, Vents and Super Heavy Spall liner on it. Also get a premium med kit on it. Result: You will barely ever lose any crew members, so you don't have to spend anything on med kits, plus both the spall liner and the med kit reduces stun duration ;)
Jagdtiger has been powercrept to irrelevancy. Its lower armor was always shit, but the upper part used to be reasonably effective. Nowadays more and more vehicles don't even need gold ammo to shoot the jagdtiger through anything except for the gun mantlet.
I got my tortoise years and years ago, and I've never sold it. I don't even use all the odds and bobs you use QB and it still smacks, claps, and doesn't give a fack.
lol, i had just few days ago my best game overall on this map with the tortoise doing 8k xD coincidence? i think not! Guys, get this absolute Monster of a Tank!
eh i disagree with the durability. its pretty much neglected by gold spam and in t9 pretty much all you get is gold spam anyway. i feel like its a TOG II in tier 9. the badger is more a dangerous tank cause its slop armor
Hello QB. I recently downloaded this game. I have been watching you for some time now and thought I would give it a try. Is there any general tips you can give a new player?
the players In NA server doesnt play like EU server players so what ypu see enemies doing in there doesnt really happen in NA(sitting in the open while taking hits)
Every time I take my Tortoise out for a spin I get completely wrecked by a T95.... Weak points on the T95 are way harder to hit. I once completely wrecked a full health Tortoise head on over a ridge with a 45TP. Would be hard pressed to hit the weak points on a T95 in the same situation.
Well everytime I play this game I get racked by gold ammo every time so I'm not able to hold grounds... angle, using gun depression, they just go through my armor easier then a bourasque... had a game I was clapped by 2jageroo platoon that just fired gold at my machine port on the side and I was back in garage... Even when not getting racked by gold they go through my weakpoint on top without problem never a problem When I get against a tortoise and shoot the weakpoikt its bounce bounce didnt penetrate and get still racked Im really unlucky in alot of battles But still love it To bad tough Im not good enough to make it work better 😅
I don't know... I setup my Tortoise as QB suggested but still had a horrible time with this tank... High DPM okay, but the giant weak point and that little circle on the left cheek makes it a snack for any knowledgeable player or gold spammers. I was always dead before I could manage to get the damage ball rolling as you don't always have a corner to hide that enormous cupola
Stick with the Tortoise and T95, they're stronger at their tier than the Badger and T110E3 respectively. In the right matchup (or against a clueless opponent) you can be incredibly aggressive driving them.
@@Steamrick i agree with the t95 but iv cant agree with the badger from personal experience. I fight a tortoise and can usually get weak spot or load premium and go through it somewhere. Vs when i fight badger from the front i bounce a lot. Its like the 263 just keep the lower plate hidden and dont let them get to ur sides
Only thing that sucks is I have not been playing wot for years and don’t have an unlimited amount of credits stored. And playing T8-T10 sucks all my credits up.
I will never understand why you aren't using an automatic extinguisher on your F2P account. They rarely get used plus you get a lot of them from different missions and events.
There is DPM on the paper and than there is real/effective DPM. If you do not have needed gun handling or when your Alpha does not fit to the tank lot of the paper DPM is partially wasted and some other tank with way worse DPM can out gun you. Imagine Slow heavy with high DPM and low Alpha in the city trade corner peak a boo fight. Or derpy gun that pens very second time. Or so long aim time that you can't connect two shots in row. Greatness of the Tortoise is in it's gun handling and gun arc that allows you to nove your hull less and it grants you capability to snipe weak spots. Good enough Alpha to hurt even one shot wise combined with high reload rate for it's alpha locking down enemies. The Badger is nothing like that. Plays completely different. In some peoples minds due the higher Alpha and DPM and no top side weak spot it should be way better. But it is not. Plus Tier IX is still way better position to play in.
The most dangerous TD is not the tortoise just because it is super slow. In my opinion the one you are looking for is the ShPTK TVP with HE and the fully rotatable turret and good gun handling.
Gotta say, grinding for the Tortoise/Badger has been the most fun tech tree grind ever, at least for me. Literally every single tank in that line, even at stock, was a blast. Only negative was having to meet BZ's & Arnie's with my AT-15.
Just unlocked the Tortoise, can't wait to play it.
It was a nightmare for me, as it was one of the first lines I chose and I had to suffer in yet-to-be-buffed trash as a total noob.
AT15 has to be played passively, I go for optic and just play it like a normal bush wanker TD.
When u unlock badger do not sell Tortoise or you will deeply regret it.
I've got most of the tier X tanks and have 362 Tanks in my garage , but when you get to that stage you struggle to decide which tanks to play and quite a lot of my tanks never get played nowadays . I have fond memories of the time when I had only a few tanks and it made the game more fun to play 😎
Dont worry bzs will still easily snipe your cupola, happened to me multiple times even on larger distances
And then you meet anyone with more than 310mm of gold pen and suddenly you're made of paper.
Hey QB, I really think that you mentioning what should be better to equip on the vehicle with/without field mods is very useful, can you please do it a bit more often in your replays?
The most dangerous TD was old Obj 263 back in the day, a bit worse armour than a Tortoise, but still very nice, very good dpm - a bit lower than tort but higher alpha, waay better mobility
And completely unknown to anyone who met it in MM. :)
Yeah the old 263 was amazing. It was so underrated and extremely hard to deal with. I wish they kept the tier 10 one in as a alternative to the 268 v4.
The Tortoise is also quite accurate, I've got mine down to 0.26 dispersion. Fun tank!
Thats pinpoint accurate
Tortoise best tier 9 TD, thanks for the replay, well played.
Its good and it has very fun gameplay. T95 is better but a bit less fun.
Not it s not , i can pen with tier 8 td from far away this td can t even see it ...
@@mihaicostel5883
It's not about thr armor it's the dpm
@@mihaicostel5883 so every tank is trash cause you can sit in a bush and you can kill them without getting spotted, okaay
Jagdtiger is way better
I just got into my AT-15, the AT-8 was a lot of fun, the AT-7 became a real headache towards the end (hitting longer and longer losing streaks) this tech tree however is one where Im excited about getting to both tier IX and X, so just gotta not lose my mind during the long losing streaks that seem to be happening more and more right now.
QB, i absolutely adore that you go out of your way to show people that all the FOMO stuff with bonds and such is not too weightful :D
Just got this yesterday so what a great time for this! Getting the AT15 done was very painful with all of the BZ spam happening right now.
I love my Tortoise - several times a Tier 10 Heavy got himself killed while perma tracked.
The T6+ British TDs pumps out a deceptive level of dpm
"RESPECT THE TORTWAS!!" - Rita "Gamer" Sobral
Lol
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THAT TD LINE GRIND. Some of the best Laughs I have ever had playing WOT was on that line! Ping ping PING then they blow up as their rounds bounce off ya! Love My Tort Such a great TD, none of my others compare! Just wish I was a better player!
I still have my heart in the stritzvahn 103 series, The penetrate everything tank.
during my earlier days, when I'm on my tier 8 tanks. 2 tanks that I fear the most are the T95 and the Tortoise.
Went head to head with one in my IS-7 yesterday, and fortunately bounced enough of his rounds to take him out, but was down to almost no HP afterwards, and used up all my gold rounds just to enter the weak spot.
There is the weakpoint on the other end of the cheeks u could have fired gold there(around the little gun on the shoulder)
Tortoise is a monster. Tied with T95 for most deadly T9 TD for me. 10 degrees GD too,
Love the content. I find myself watching the channel even though I don't really play wot.
Undoubtebly one of the best mix-matches of Quickybaby's unusual use of English. We love you anyway!
Just recently got my Badger, minmaxed it with bond vents, bond rammer, and bond turbo + premium consumable. Why not get the most from the most dpm tank in the game, even thi it’s not as good as the Tortoise tier for tier. I love the lack of weakpoints on the Badger, if you hide your lower plate, you turn into a damage farming beast
In my opinion, Tortoise is good and fun to play, but its armor is not that reliable. Premium shells with 300+ mm penetration can easily pen your front armor...
7th highest tech tree tank WR in the game. That says it all. Skip the Badger. Keep your top crew in this.
tortoise, fv4005 and maus players are true gigachads
Best TD in game ! Favorite
6500 Damage AND five kills? That's more damage than I've ever done in this game, and I've played it for as long as you have. My damage record is 6,425 in the STRV 103-0. I broke my previous damage record of around 4,300 in the T-10 (IS8) three times in a row in the STRV and ended up at that number.
I did get the T-28 Concept finally though. I got it earlier this week. Since arty got nerfed, the missions got waaaay harder, so I had taken a break. Finally jumped back into an arty and completed the final arty mission. So happy. Not sure if I'll ever be able to complete any of the other campaigns.
That was a really impressive Master Class for Tortoise
Definitely my favourite tank, I always use it when I have to complete tricky missions
Certainly far and away one of the least scariest TD’s in the game. Load gold and easy pen with a plethora of weakspots to chose from
Doesn’t even compare to the badger which can hold a position with the lower plate hidden, use max gun depression and laugh as neatly everything bounces whilst you farm helpless enemies with the much better alpha damage
Tortoise simply can’t hold a position. It’s just freeHP now a days with everyone shooting gold
Yeeee! Love my Tortoise. Love to play it close quarters. Beast mode of a tank.
It is strong but i managed do quite a lot damage with my IS tank and several toutoise shrlls was bounsing off from my armor.
russian bias
Yeah, that 1 game where you met a potato in a tortoise really reflects the potential of this tank. ‘A tier 7 IS will make life hard for a tortoise.’ Man you kids make me laugh. Your IS is a 3 shot for the Torto in 15 secs. If you are lucky you are able to fire 2 shells in that time.
@@ButchE30M3S14 belive or not but i managed send 3 gold shells and 2 normal shells to that tank destroyer. I could continiue because he was busy with tier 8 heavy tanks that moment but enemy tier 9 took me down from side :(
Tortoise is good one, play on TOP-10 tanks of the game with the highest dpm - K-91, Strv 103B, Badger, Tortoise and etc
Foch 155 for me. almost 400 pen is a threat to be afraid of. I think people underestamate it coz all the people buying it for bonds, but I feel its a nasty thing regardless.
the most dangerous TD is the GSOR for me. It's always played by coward players waiting at the far back of the map, being useless to their team 50% of matches, but when their team start losing, and you are pushing out of that flank that just crumbled under your aggresive plays, there are the GSOR.. Unloading a 1200 damage clip in 6 seconds, screwing you over, but not saving their team because your teammates are still there to continue the push against the empty GSOR. Cowardly GSOR are the worst, can't win games but can surely ruin their teammates and one enemy's game for sure !
LOL mummy kiss it better
when the tortoise meets the udes 03 then its like a light tank when it comes to armore
I actually use a Bond Rammer, a durability module, and optics on my Tort…I actually leave off a turbo, but I definitely understand why it’s needed. Either way, I LOVE my Tortoise and I’m not even bothered to get the Badger.
Curious as to why you use optics?
@@erics_TX_ Just that extra bit of view range. I kinda messed up on my crew skills and my BIA isn’t at 100% to help my commander’s Recon. I know the Tortoise isn’t exactly trying to spot things because it’s gonna be dishing it out with the heavies and whatnot, but I had it on “just in case”. Once I get my crew in order, I’m gonna drop it for a bounty turbo that I have just lying around.
Most dangerous TD tier for tier I would also mention the almighty SU-76I :)
For I've Become Tortoise, the Destroyer of Tanks.
T95 is better tier for tier than the Tortoise. And I'd rather play the Conway with the 120mm than this. With all the gold spam in the high tiers, I'd rather have mobility than heavy armour thats going to get penned anyways.
I do love the Badger, but no no doubt the Tortoise is WAY better tier for tier. Obviously I don't want to see the Badger buffed and over-tuned, but I feel it's pen is a bit lacking for the playstyle it has. Don't have the mobility, like a Foch, to just relocate or flank targets. So it definitively can be a bit rough at times.
I genuinely like this tank..and I make it work better than the badger
Yeah i dont fuck around when i look at the tanks active in the game lobby. I'll load gold straight away. Or right before I meet them!
I bought and sold the Badger 2 times. I am a Noob sometimes. The Tortoise is even better.
I appreciate the free to play suggestions for this tank. I just bought it and the stock gun from the at 15 is just PAINFUL against tier 10s
My trick in surviving stock grinds is to spam gold rounds on higher tiers.
using gold rounds with no premium definitely empty your earnings, but if you had lower tier tanks to farm then its fine
@@normanarmslave5144 Its a gun charioteer uses you can get it there
@BlackSwan69 My tip for you is to equip Gun rammer, Vents and Super Heavy Spall liner on it. Also get a premium med kit on it. Result: You will barely ever lose any crew members, so you don't have to spend anything on med kits, plus both the spall liner and the med kit reduces stun duration ;)
Jagdtiger can also serve as hp trading with 560 alpha, but it is not easy because the armor is too weak compared to the tortoises.
Jagdtiger has been powercrept to irrelevancy. Its lower armor was always shit, but the upper part used to be reasonably effective. Nowadays more and more vehicles don't even need gold ammo to shoot the jagdtiger through anything except for the gun mantlet.
As a British Heavy Tank Destroyer Enjoyer. Yes good video. we will send 80kg of Tea in your Doorstep Mr. QuackyBaby.
I got my tortoise years and years ago, and I've never sold it. I don't even use all the odds and bobs you use QB and it still smacks, claps, and doesn't give a fack.
5.01 second reload with tortoise. My best performing tank averaging 3900 dpg
Love my Tort, Have the Badger researched but not sure if I want to get it yet. Free to play and all, I need my credits
No tank is great anymore seeing how every one just spams gold.
lol, i had just few days ago my best game overall on this map with the tortoise doing 8k xD coincidence? i think not! Guys, get this absolute Monster of a Tank!
I unlocked it last week and it's really a beast!
the rival of the T95
The tortoise is one of the only tier 9 vehicles that I’m scared of whilst driving my tier 10s lmao
Bro u never seen a t95?
@@ronaldkerssens4617 bro a T95 can’t rip apart my tank in under a minute
It can destroy a maua tank in 51.68 sec (3000hp÷750damg=4×12,92sec=51.68sec)
Pls stop talking trash.
And next think before u speak.
@@ronaldkerssens4617 LOL reread my original comment
One of*
Finished the badger grind from tier 5 to 10 in 5 days, kept t9 cuz it's tier for tier the best imo and t10 is still a clown sometimes
QB is the commander in my tortoise 😁
Hi QB !!! Love ur videos !! Go baby go !!
Great games and I agree.
That week point is bad I play this in my phone small maps dose not work there sadly
AT-15 is pain on the line. full green against standard ammo of ShPTK-TVP
Just the question weather or not I should upgrade to the badger or just stick with the tortoise
Love your channel :)
That tonk is filthy lol
Imagine in match making vs 7 tier
Hi QB, can you do a renewed vid on the IS-7
eh i disagree with the durability. its pretty much neglected by gold spam and in t9 pretty much all you get is gold spam anyway. i feel like its a TOG II in tier 9. the badger is more a dangerous tank cause its slop armor
Nice gameplay
Hello QB. I recently downloaded this game. I have been watching you for some time now and thought I would give it a try. Is there any general tips you can give a new player?
I'd start with going and watching his older videos that address how to navigate being a new player.
loads of other content creators out there to help with gameplay, not just qb haha
the players In NA server doesnt play like EU server players so what ypu see enemies doing in there doesnt really happen in NA(sitting in the open while taking hits)
I still fear T95 more and find it to be the most ridiculous tier 9 tank
I just unlocked it :o Love the vid
Every time I take my Tortoise out for a spin I get completely wrecked by a T95.... Weak points on the T95 are way harder to hit. I once completely wrecked a full health Tortoise head on over a ridge with a 45TP. Would be hard pressed to hit the weak points on a T95 in the same situation.
the unseen tortoise is the deadliest
Well everytime I play this game I get racked by gold ammo every time so I'm not able to hold grounds... angle, using gun depression, they just go through my armor easier then a bourasque... had a game I was clapped by 2jageroo platoon that just fired gold at my machine port on the side and I was back in garage...
Even when not getting racked by gold they go through my weakpoint on top without problem never a problem
When I get against a tortoise and shoot the weakpoikt its bounce bounce didnt penetrate and get still racked
Im really unlucky in alot of battles
But still love it
To bad tough Im not good enough to make it work better 😅
can we see a maus full speed equipped vid
Chose a replay with fire burning as DPM
yea it is good line if you are masochistic
in NA server everyone see Tortoise be like
"Holy shit thats alot of exp infront of me, fuck off teammate let me do it"
Acronym for Bible is "Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth"
Wait...Badger is top of the tree right now? Alright i know what i will 3 mark after Controcarro.
Its actually a monster than a T95. like it shoots faster and it moves faster
With a lot worse armor
I still think obj. 268/4 is far more dangerous
I don't know... I setup my Tortoise as QB suggested but still had a horrible time with this tank... High DPM okay, but the giant weak point and that little circle on the left cheek makes it a snack for any knowledgeable player or gold spammers. I was always dead before I could manage to get the damage ball rolling as you don't always have a corner to hide that enormous cupola
Yeah, the goldnoobs have made armor almost completely irrelevant anymore.
Gold spammers are the reason I prefer the T95 over the Tortoise. The T95 also has weakspots, but they're much harder to hit, especially at distance.
Everytime I play mine,I get tore up by arty,and I play on a huge wide open map....
And QuikyBaby i thought you hate that map?
Charioteer
Yup its very effective at doing its job which is Destroy player emotionally or send em back to garage real quick 🤣
How did he get a qb 2d style on his plays for free account..? Was QB able to gift some?
I got 2270 hp and 5,76 reload time on my Torto
My rhm with 150mm and 334 gold pen just laughs at this big dumb box
I really want the badger and t95. I already have my fav russian one. I just wish we could get a Japanese td line
Stick with the Tortoise and T95, they're stronger at their tier than the Badger and T110E3 respectively. In the right matchup (or against a clueless opponent) you can be incredibly aggressive driving them.
@@Steamrick i agree with the t95 but iv cant agree with the badger from personal experience. I fight a tortoise and can usually get weak spot or load premium and go through it somewhere. Vs when i fight badger from the front i bounce a lot. Its like the 263 just keep the lower plate hidden and dont let them get to ur sides
Seems like there's nothing else than Tortoise and T95 this year 🙄
the bz 176 is why to op i play my is ii 2 and i get killed ever time and the only way to maybe pen it, is with gold so way too op not fair
Only thing that sucks is I have not been playing wot for years and don’t have an unlimited amount of credits stored. And playing T8-T10 sucks all my credits up.
I will never understand why you aren't using an automatic extinguisher on your F2P account.
They rarely get used plus you get a lot of them from different missions and events.
No random, no balance and a matchmaker for premium tanks.
Yeah i wish this was true, Tortoise was one of the worst tanks I had to play. Everyone just penned me with gold.
I was playing on Core i5 3rd generation laptop but sadly it broke down...😟😭😭
There is DPM on the paper and than there is real/effective DPM. If you do not have needed gun handling or when your Alpha does not fit to the tank lot of the paper DPM is partially wasted and some other tank with way worse DPM can out gun you. Imagine Slow heavy with high DPM and low Alpha in the city trade corner peak a boo fight. Or derpy gun that pens very second time. Or so long aim time that you can't connect two shots in row. Greatness of the Tortoise is in it's gun handling and gun arc that allows you to nove your hull less and it grants you capability to snipe weak spots. Good enough Alpha to hurt even one shot wise combined with high reload rate for it's alpha locking down enemies. The Badger is nothing like that. Plays completely different. In some peoples minds due the higher Alpha and DPM and no top side weak spot it should be way better. But it is not. Plus Tier IX is still way better position to play in.
Tortoise is better than Badger. Don't @ me.
Amazing tank,my favorite
The most dangerous TD is not the tortoise just because it is super slow.
In my opinion the one you are looking for is the ShPTK TVP with HE and the fully rotatable turret and good gun handling.