Is Biden the ‘White Moderate’ that MLK Warned Us About? | Mehdi Hasan and Owen Jones

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  • Owen and Mehdi discuss the ongoing misrepresentation of college protests in the mainstream media, the debate over genocide in Gaza, and the London mayoral elections. They discuss how college and antiwar protests have long been demonized to undermine public support for them, and how the term "genocide" is deliberately and conveniently mis-defined by supporters of Israel.
    Plus, Mehdi takes us back in time to read Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. 's letter from a Birmingham jail about the “white moderate,” and reflects on its relevance to modern-day politicians, particularly in light of recent comments made by President Joe Biden. Owen criticizes Biden's approach on all this, accusing him of fetishizing past struggles while vilifying current protests.
    They also touch on the London mayoral elections and the challenges faced by Sadiq Khan, particularly in the context of his stance on issues like Gaza and Islamophobia.
    ‘Two Outspoken’ is a twice-monthly conversation between broadcaster, author, and Zeteo Editor-in-Chief Mehdi Hasan and political commentator, author, and activist Owen Jones. Mehdi and Owen will be discussing the news of the week, offering their analysis on the state of American and British politics, and even, from time to time, taking questions from Zeteo subscribers.
    00:00 - Intro
    00:33 - MLK on the 'white moderate'
    1:54 - Joe Biden denounces campus protests
    12:20 - Latest on Gaza and potential Rafah invasion
    23:20 - UK elections
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    Founded by Mehdi Hasan, Zeteo has a strong bias for the truth and an unwavering belief in the media’s responsibility to the public. Unfiltered news, bold opinions.
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  • @cayetano6547
    @cayetano6547 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +383

    I'm INCREDIBLY GLAD that Medhi pivoted out of MSNBC and has built a successful platform. For a moment I was upset and concerned his voice would be silenced. Thank you Mehdi! 🙏🏾👏🏾👍🏽

    • @ceceliacharles4570
      @ceceliacharles4570 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      We will not allow his voice to be silence.... not on this platform.... see followers here

    • @larafields3106
      @larafields3106 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Medhi unleashed is the best Medhi.

    • @txt4r
      @txt4r 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I am proud to join his group

    • @williamharkenss8960
      @williamharkenss8960 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He's a complete marxist liar

    • @greenvelvet
      @greenvelvet 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "Pivoted"?? 😂 That's very generous phrasing, as if it was a voluntary choice.
      He was FIRED.

  • @feralLove
    @feralLove 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +582

    College students occupying a building, breaking its windows, is inconsequential compared to what the Palestinian people who have endured atrocities for the past 7 months, and which our government has no issue with. Windows can be replaced human lives cannot. Thank u, pro-palestine college students, for your bravery and courage. You are on the right side of history. Stay strong and keep the faith. 💓

    • @zdeenrdeen3278
      @zdeenrdeen3278 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      Hello really 110% like your comments, It really make sense WINDOW can be REPLACED HUMAN lives cannot, I am 67 i want my kids grandkids neighbourhood kids human large around the world live peacefully, Thumbs up for students who are the future leaders,
      Your message will be read, it will change at least one person(it will lots peoples thinking) better than nothing
      for a better peaceful world

    • @user-uq5fb3bx6w
      @user-uq5fb3bx6w 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      Owen, please speak slower. I so want to hear what you say but it is difficult with your British accent and my being a 75 year old woman.

    • @danielreiss-cy4zr
      @danielreiss-cy4zr 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      From what I saw, it was police who smashed a window pane in order to open a door.

    • @girl.anachronism5639
      @girl.anachronism5639 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yes ❤👏👏👏

    • @Shsjier
      @Shsjier 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ​@@user-uq5fb3bx6wyou might not realise but you can slow the video down if you click on the setting icon in the right top corner

  • @menudobucket9837
    @menudobucket9837 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +495

    When, in America, you grow up on the poor side of town, you see American double standards everywhere you look. It’s about time they were brought to the surface for ALL to see.

    • @Uncanny_Mountain
      @Uncanny_Mountain 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      PRO PEACE 🕊️
      PARTY FOR PEACE ✌️
      Focus on the solution SIR: *Govt by Referenda 70/30 split.* By Mascot Party or *Velvet Revolution*
      Single Issue Referendums with thresholds and a social contract means Communities can vote their own laws.
      A Public Authority can audit police and prosecute bad cops in our own courts.
      Nationalise resources and give Indigenous peoples the right of Sovereignty over them as Guardians.
      This can be achieved through a General Strike or Velvet Revolution, much like the Occupy movement, peacefully occupying State Buildings until a People's Mandate can be implemented.
      With the appropriate checks and balances, you could have a national digital forum where qualified professionals can debate the issues in a public setting without all the disinformation and bad faith antics, hatespeech etc.
      Any vote would need to pass the 70% threshold, with a veto or _rewrite_ vote needing 30%.
      The issues would be debated, the public educated, and then a vote taken. Votes that fail will have to wait a year before trying again. Any new proposal (Citizen Initiated Referendum) would have to reach a threshold of support before it made it onto the register. This would be subject to a Social Contract (New Constitution) that forbids human rights abuses and discrimination.
      That can be written in the same manner based on the core principles we all share. Councils and Boards could operate in the same fashion at Scale.
      It works in a way that obligates people to better educate themselves ( that is to use logic and evidence in their reasoning ) for a better understanding of the issues, and then take collective responsibility for the outcomes. As opposed to the divisive US v them scapegoating and bi-partisan finger pointing the current Capitalist Pyramid Scheme runs on.
      We need Government by People's Referenda, either through Mascot Candidates or Peaceful Occupation of the Capitals until one is established.
      Make it an annual March on Oct 14.
      Take back the Temples under a single white flag! 🏳️

    • @SiobhanIreland
      @SiobhanIreland 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      So much yes.

    • @ceceliacharles4570
      @ceceliacharles4570 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Finally it's in the open. We have been seeing America hypocrisy for centuries. SADLY it took Gaza war to see America bare.

    • @Wise__guy
      @Wise__guy 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank the Palestinians for showing the world the hypocrisy of the west and America

    • @katiekane5247
      @katiekane5247 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      🎯

  • @am1156
    @am1156 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +285

    Malcolm X spoke of the white liberals and their hypocrisy.

    • @JoJoBoOzK.O.
      @JoJoBoOzK.O. 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah in the 60's & judging from earlier on....look around u man it's 2024!!!

    • @JoJoBoOzK.O.
      @JoJoBoOzK.O. 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well & u r listening to "one" right here! Just pointing out the hypocrisy in ur comment!
      Owen either is not aware of how old hatred against Jews is or simply cannot see the parallels between this ago old hatred & the current attacks on Israel .... he chooses to side with the "palestinians" maybe because they clearly seem to be the ones taking the most damage in this "conflict"...(which is new apparently, right ?! This is obviously not linked to some holy war in nobody's head right?!)... & to these fellas, according to the best of their information, everything is clearly being orchestrated by Israel & its allies alone for the "palestinians" to be in this current situation...noone else can obviously interfere.... Israel has had full control over this?! & therefore probably still does then right?! So when is the next attack by Israel on itself so Israel can "finally" annex that part of (THEIR) land where the "gazans" are on?!
      Palestinians are completely helpless right?! They have the full right to resort to terrorism under the cover of resistance?! & this very idea of resorting to such violent method is not linked with (radical) islam?! Right? I mean from these fellas point of view!

    • @JoJoBoOzK.O.
      @JoJoBoOzK.O. 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      & as for Owen being the "white" "liberal" from the quote is because this Jew (in my street dog head point of view....he doesn't have to be religious or anything like that....but he exists because of his background) has the luxury to side with his natural born enemies & not have any regard for the fact that his image (because he is from an Israeli background) & voice are being used to justify the ruthless sadistic violence conducted on people (who did not even ask to for it, meaning they didn't grow up wanting to be jihaadis) who he doesn't even know ....& as for the "palestinians" who he is helping out (because he is a "liberal" JEW, yes a Jew to them!) is more to not get them out of the mental hellhole they have been brainwashed with since childhood to be in .... Owen's 'HELP' is encouraging the next generation of jihaadis & that manner of 'resistance' as we all know is clearly helping out the 'gazans' in making their lives better .... disrupting public services & creating disorder is the NEW form of protest...so, terrorism is resistance now & disrupting order is protest??!😡

    • @wfb.subtraktor311
      @wfb.subtraktor311 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@JoJoBoOzK.O.Yeah, and we are back where we were. Almost 60 years and liberals are still the moderate wing of fascism. Bad ideologies will always be bad.

    • @larafields3106
      @larafields3106 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      ​@JoJoBoOzK.O. you think the liberals have improved? 😅

  • @monceftayahi
    @monceftayahi 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +210

    My favorite two honest and independent journalists!

    • @robbyhood2389
      @robbyhood2389 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah, honest now that he is off MSNBC. I guess it's commendable that he is no longer quite as much of a propagandist.

    • @AZtea4UnME
      @AZtea4UnME 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      I must add Novara Media's crew as well 😉

    • @monceftayahi
      @monceftayahi 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@AZtea4UnME I agree!

    • @AZtea4UnME
      @AZtea4UnME 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@monceftayahi 👍

    • @juliewake4585
      @juliewake4585 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AZtea4UnMEdefinitely.

  • @TheAlgerietop
    @TheAlgerietop 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +129

    Im loving mehdi uncensored

  • @jjutt87
    @jjutt87 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +242

    Malcolm X also warned us very clearly 💯

    • @syttt7925
      @syttt7925 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The white moderate is terrifying. They talk softly to us in order to ask us to comply with our own oppression - so no suprise that Jim Crow Joe/Genocide Joe wants Black people and Arabs to shut up and vote for him. Well - look at the alternative. There will be a lot of people who will sit this election out. He is a MONSTER!

    • @JoJoBoOzK.O.
      @JoJoBoOzK.O. 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah against the ones manipulating others! Not the Zionists!

    • @PD05666
      @PD05666 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yup he did!!

    • @megmcguigan3857
      @megmcguigan3857 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He was a great man who would have done great things if he hadn't been assassinated.

    • @noboy345
      @noboy345 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Keep fighting the good fight 💪💪💪💪

  • @CW-xf1li
    @CW-xf1li 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +160

    The same people who ignore history are the same freaking out, screaming "it came from nowhere". Ignorance is the greatest threat to this species.

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Mind Begs the Question:
      - Nelson Mandela an example
      - Protesting an Apartheid State
      - Is Terrorism or Heroic?

    • @TVeldhorst
      @TVeldhorst 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's worse bc it is WILFULL ignorance

    • @flutel00p
      @flutel00p 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've been told I don't understand history by the same people who say there was a ceasfire on Oct. 6th and Hamas broke it. I mean you can believe that if you don't know anything that's happened in the region prior to 10/7.

    • @lobopix_
      @lobopix_ 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings They flip-flop from one t'other as it suits their agenda so, really, it's both. The money-in-politics (corporate capture) is what lies most often at the root of the problem ever since we went a-conquering for our kings/queens.....

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ignorance is a natural state. The greater threat is faith, which treats irrationality as a virtue.

  • @mumpizgaming5039
    @mumpizgaming5039 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +122

    Letter from Birmingham Jail should really be mandatory in school. Thanks to the both of you for the interesting conversation

    • @halifaxeh
      @halifaxeh 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Meanwhile government is censoring what can be taught more than in many decades!! 😡🤬

    • @Kmcgonigle0
      @Kmcgonigle0 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      If it was republicans would be crying CRT

    • @ceceliacharles4570
      @ceceliacharles4570 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I must goggle the little from Birmingham

    • @dixztube
      @dixztube 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Kmcgonigle0exactly

    • @juliewake4585
      @juliewake4585 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      It’s amazing that this sort of thing is not part of our history tuition. For instance, in the UK, all we learn about is the Tudors and all the other kinds and queens, instead of what had happened to ordinary people over the decades.

  • @WinterWarlock261
    @WinterWarlock261 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +104

    The idea of a "peaceful protest" to Biden is "Okay, you have your little 'protest' temper tantrum and then when it's over we can put that behind us and carry on with what were are/were doing. You'll have zero impact, of course, but get it out of your system and 'problem solved'! Just hurry up because my patience for you is waning and I may not always be so kind to you as to 'tolerate' you for now. You're welcome."

    • @down-to-earth-mystery-school
      @down-to-earth-mystery-school 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Get off my lawn, kids, is literally the message.

    • @spamtownhamilton6200
      @spamtownhamilton6200 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep, it is like Biden and other folks of similar mindset think peaceful should mean non disruptive. If you protest but don't rock the boat then what is the point of protesting? To virtue signal to likeminded people?

    • @OneEyedMonkey9000
      @OneEyedMonkey9000 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      The answer is to go harder

    • @virtualawakening2299
      @virtualawakening2299 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I disagree completely. I think Biden wanted protests to go on long term. Unfortunately, law and order, which has once been owned by the right, is ripe to be taken over by the left. This is a political opportunity that could change the topography of politics. Biden clearly, in code, said exactly what protesters need to do to be completely lawful and orderly.
      Also, if the protesters hadn't vandalized property and occupied buildings, they'd still be there in large numbers protesting. Protesters need to police their own protesting and learn to identify those who don't respect property and will cause the downfall of their cause. Protesting will always attract bad actors. This is something organizers of protesters also need to organize for. It is the protestors' own responsibility to ensure that everyone is lawful and orderly, and to collect evidence against the bad actors.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Indeed.

  • @FoxSullivan
    @FoxSullivan 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +88

    "Give Biden 20 years, and He'll be on the side of the Gaza protestors as well." I was not ready for this joke, I had to pause the video whilst cackling, 🤣

    • @jake751
      @jake751 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      He'll be lucky to live another 20 months his health is failing.

    • @Wise__guy
      @Wise__guy 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@jake751 you’re right but there are a lot of people like Biden that will claim they were on the right side of history.
      We should not allow them to switch sides.

    • @jmhorange
      @jmhorange 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Wise__guy I mean I think it's more important to prevent a genocide than worry about the future where we can decide who was on the right side of not. If the future includes a genocide of the Palestinians, well it won't matter one bit where anyone stood, we'll have all been on the wrong side of history.

    • @magspies
      @magspies 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Wise__guywe should allow people to switch sides. More are needed on the ‘right side’…but we should not let them forget, they will need to prove it’s not performative.

    • @SeanCrosser
      @SeanCrosser 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They're already doing that for him, because they'll go "look how hard he is fighting for a peace process", because he SAYS that he is

  • @sajadhussain4732
    @sajadhussain4732 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +100

    Mehdi and Owen from the bottom of the heart thank you for the good work.

  • @sentineldragon
    @sentineldragon 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    My thoughts on Biden are that he never got to the right side of an issue when he had the power to do something about it. Still stands.

    • @c.brackens9918
      @c.brackens9918 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes, he rode on the current of the rest of the Obama cabinet

    • @larafields3106
      @larafields3106 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      His ENTIRE political career.

    • @BabyGirlDontEvenPlay
      @BabyGirlDontEvenPlay 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Did you guys vote for him? I didn't.
      Blame the 81 million who did.
      Remember Charlottesville? 🤣

    • @larafields3106
      @larafields3106 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BabyGirlDontEvenPlay I live in a solid red state, so thanks to the electoral college, my presidential vote is irrelevant.

  • @MudBuddy55
    @MudBuddy55 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    If BiBi comes to Washington to speak before congress there needs to be a large protest in front of the capital. I’d definitely drive the 300 miles needed for me to attend.

    • @BabyGirlDontEvenPlay
      @BabyGirlDontEvenPlay 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Meh. Your white supremacy conspiracy theories are getting old. We voted out those anti-Semitic tropes in 2020, remember?

  • @karensmith7741
    @karensmith7741 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    MARTIN LUTHER KINGS WORDS ARE SPOT ON.
    I AM 68.
    I REMEMBER PROTESTING IN WELLINGTON.
    AMAZING.
    IN TOTAL SILENCE.
    THOUSANDS OF US.
    I GOT HOME AND MY FATHER WAS FURIOUS ABOUT THE PROTESTING.
    I DIDNT CARE.
    WE ALL HELPED STOP THE VIETNAM WAR.

  • @sunnybhai1904
    @sunnybhai1904 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    I don’t always comment, but it’s great to see how well Mehdi and Owen seem to mesh together. Great discussion.

    • @BrRizzy1
      @BrRizzy1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Great synergy. They also talk as fast as each other lol!

  • @tehreemamitha8524
    @tehreemamitha8524 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

    Every sane human being should stop appearing on the Piers Morgan show because no one watches it because of him and he needs to be cut out now. He has not learnt or changed one darned thing in 6 months of the best most logical humane guests! He does not serve a single minute of anyone’s time.

    • @sumayyabhorat790
      @sumayyabhorat790 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Agree completely, he does it to get views, if his guests believe they could impact him positively, it's not happening... need to make him irrelevant.

    • @Truthfully2.1
      @Truthfully2.1 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly piss Morgan is really hurting my ear drums he keeps vomiting the same lines each day not one decent bone in his body

    • @OneSixSun
      @OneSixSun 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      💯💯💯

    • @dannykahn7468
      @dannykahn7468 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      so fuk*** spot on ... he brags and revels under the rhetoric that he has given more Palestinians or anti-war/genocide/killing proponents than anyone else and to be honest I am a nuanced thinker and I think he is right. though he didn't do this with an iota of goodwill or humanity, just to create more chaos .. disinformation by his ever so common proverbial tactics of interrupting whenever someone is about to expose him, etc ... I think he did help the Palestinians' cause even though he did not want to, but now everyone should call him out for what he is. A cowardly man who can so conspicuously be ok with listening to a doctor who had just come back from Gaza and told him how harrowing it was to amputate a 10-year-old's legs without anesthesia and the next day was back on with his vile propaganda.

    • @mikeomolt4485
      @mikeomolt4485 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@sumayyabhorat790 His guests have used his show as a platform to expose him and highlight his double standard ignorance. The job is done now though. There should be enough clips of him being educated, followed by his blank stare when he realises he's made an idiot of himself on his own show, once again.

  • @markfitzpatrick7186
    @markfitzpatrick7186 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    I am so absolutely happy that Mehdi is free. I was skeptical at first, but the uncensored Mehdi is brilliant. Thank you MSNBC for letting this happen and validating everything we know about you as you spiral into oblivion.

  • @danielreiss-cy4zr
    @danielreiss-cy4zr 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +100

    Bassem Youssef has explained why he won't be manipulated into voting for Biden. The enormity of Gaza weighs against Trump on one side and against Biden's own positive achievements on the other. By now I think the Democrats' best option, for several reasons, is to retire Biden and choose another candidate.

    • @Reeve-vf6zk
      @Reeve-vf6zk 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Trump was a loudmouth whose politics did not really hurt anyone, quite the opposite. With Biden, the world is burning and we are all poorer

    • @down-to-earth-mystery-school
      @down-to-earth-mystery-school 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Their best option is to cut funding to Israel, we hold all the power and are deliberately not using it. You are correct, Biden will never hold boundaries with Israel, due to his Christian Zionist beliefs. He must be replaced, or they will lose.

    • @hollandanish5557
      @hollandanish5557 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That is not going to happen. We are facing a very stark choice. If Trump MAGA wins the next election we, our children and our grandchildren will live in an America forever transformed. Look to Victor Orban if you wish to know what awaits you. It is up to you. You will have made the choice to live in a very imperfect democracy or to live in a neofacsitic kleptocracy. It is still your choice.
      When we get to the ideal America I would like to see this country returned to its indigenous peoples. Maybe they will even let some of us stay.

    • @jimmcmanmon
      @jimmcmanmon 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      If they do not forty-five may become forty-seven.

    • @hollandanish5557
      @hollandanish5557 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is not going to happen. So we can have Trump back in the Whitehouse with Prop. 2025. Muslim ban day one. Mass deportations of brown people repleat with " detention camps." Your choice.......As a lot of people in Germany said in 1933, "Well atleast the Nazis got rid of the Communists".

  • @user-gd6qm9qs6n
    @user-gd6qm9qs6n 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Mehdi and Owen, thank you both for being truth tellers.

  • @user-em6ie2be7x
    @user-em6ie2be7x 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    If we had more people like Mehdi Hasan in media we probably could solve a lot of the world's problems. 🌎

    • @Uncanny_Mountain
      @Uncanny_Mountain 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You don't solve problems talking about them as infinitum. At some point you must collate the data and deliver a goal
      PRO PEACE 🕊️
      PARTY FOR PEACE ✌️
      Focus on the solution SIR: *Govt by Referenda 70/30 split.* By Mascot Party or *Velvet Revolution*
      Single Issue Referendums with thresholds and a social contract means Communities can vote their own laws.
      A Public Authority can audit police and prosecute bad cops in our own courts.
      Nationalise resources and give Indigenous peoples the right of Sovereignty over them as Guardians.
      This can be achieved through a General Strike or Velvet Revolution, much like the Occupy movement, peacefully occupying State Buildings until a People's Mandate can be implemented.
      With the appropriate checks and balances, you could have a national digital forum where qualified professionals can debate the issues in a public setting without all the disinformation and bad faith antics, hatespeech etc.
      Any vote would need to pass the 70% threshold, with a veto or _rewrite_ vote needing 30%.
      The issues would be debated, the public educated, and then a vote taken. Votes that fail will have to wait a year before trying again. Any new proposal (Citizen Initiated Referendum) would have to reach a threshold of support before it made it onto the register. This would be subject to a Social Contract (New Constitution) that forbids human rights abuses and discrimination.
      That can be written in the same manner based on the core principles we all share. Councils and Boards could operate in the same fashion at Scale.
      It works in a way that obligates people to better educate themselves ( that is to use logic and evidence in their reasoning ) for a better understanding of the issues, and then take collective responsibility for the outcomes. As opposed to the divisive US v them scapegoating and bi-partisan finger pointing the current Capitalist Pyramid Scheme runs on.
      We need Government by People's Referenda, either through Mascot Candidates or Peaceful Occupation of the Capitals until one is established.
      Make it an annual March on Oct 14.
      Take back the Temples under a single white flag! 🏳️

  • @pietropenza5840
    @pietropenza5840 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    They pretend not to know...they actually know perfectly well, Owen

    • @Uncanny_Mountain
      @Uncanny_Mountain 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He plays into their gaslighting every time he condemns Hamas and falls for their bad faith antics cos he doesn't catch they're making their feelings the goalposts. There's a direct link between Scientology, Trump, and the techniques used by the right wing echosphere, who also tie to NXIVM (Elon promoted it) Epstein (Trump's bff for20+ years) and Saville, (who Brand idolised) and the Monarchy who (Shapiro and Piers Morgan defends). Tate dated Peterson's daughter and Elon went to the same Jesuit University as Trump, and Epstein hooked up Elon's brother, just like he did for Trump. Trump's lawyer Alan Dershowitz said he was introduced to Epstein by Lynn de Forrester Rosschild.
      Scientology is training these people in the tactics of brainwashing, basically what MK Ultra became, and probably run by the CIA, and Opus Dei, which is basically the same thing. Their principle strategy is Gaslighting.
      Gaslighting, aka Grooming. Accusation in a mirror (AiM), mirror politics, mirror propaganda, mirror image propaganda, is a hate-speech incitement technique where one falsely attributes to one's adversaries the intentions that one has for oneself and/or the actions that one is in the process of enacting. It was used in Rwanda, Guatemala, Brazil, and Burma, each having ties to Mossad.
      Trump, Barr, Bannon, Cippolone, Gore, Guiliani, Leo, Alito, Thomas, and Barrett are all Opus Dei. Trump trained alongside Epstein and Roger Stone under Roy Cohn, who used kids to blackmail politicians on behalf of Mossad. Cohn trained under Meyer Lansky, who trained under Hoover. Robert Mercer and Rupert Murdoch are both Knights of Malta.
      Saville, Bezos, Gates, Koch, Rogan, Walsh, Crowder, Kirk, Fuentes, Dore, Knowles, Kulinksi, Ball, Iverson, Icke, Woods, Watson, Cernovich, Abbott, Jones, Robinson, Woods, Pool, Rubin, Peterson, Posobeic, Duke, Molyneux, Yilanopouse, Gionet, Richardson, Tillerson, Greene, Manaforte, Flynn, Ducey, Acosta, Attwood, Stone, Pence, Desantis, Meadows, Trump, Eastman, Black, Kerik, Melania, Barr, Bannon, Hawley, Gingrich, Abrams, Comey, Cuomo, Kerry, Abrams, Gore, Spencer, Blassio, Pompeo, Bolton, McCarthy, Nugent, Cruz, Rubio, Gaetz, Santos, Tucker, Gutfield, O'Reilly, Beck, Scarborough, Devos, Kasich, Mercer, Murdoch, Rosschild, Ingram, Kelly, Lake, Conway, Coulter, Huckabee, McEnany, Hannity, Spicer, Christie, Prager, Maher, Colbert, Corbett, Hayes, Biden, Harris, Fauci, Pelosi, Menendez, Pirro, Manchin, Cooper, Maddow, AOC, Newsom, Uyger, Dawkins, Hitchens, Hancock, Sitchin, Ventura, Morgan, Cowell, Farage, Johnson, May, Merkel, Blair, Cameron, Brown, Blair, Mogg, Benjamin, Trudeau, Putin, Bolsanaro, Stalin, Lenin, Tito, Trotsky, Hitler.
      All Roman Catholic.
      Julian Assange helped Roger Stone and the Trump Campaign in 2016, being the first to suggest challenging the outcome if he lost, and asking to be made the Australian ambassador to the US. Margeret Sunbyrne, the head of the Sun Worship Cult he was raised in was also protected by the CIA in the Australian Supreme Court, on grounds of "National Security" Trump paints himself Orange to represent Apollo.
      Aleister Crowley inspired NXIvM and Manson, and was a master of mind control, his Protege L Ron Hubbard was the founder of Scientology, which uses the same mind control tactics displayed in right wing media.
      They were also instrumental in Trump's conception as the Moon Child, born on a Super Wolf Blood Moon on June 14 700 days before the founding of Israel, who he gave sovereignty over the Golan heights on its 70th anniversary, and was inaugurated aged 70 years 7 months and 7 days old. June 14 is the birthday of Osiris, Known as the Day of the Pharoah.
      Scientology uses the same tricks as Religion and Freemasonry, including isolation through strange acts (rituals/hazing) Gaslighting and intimadation, these can also be seen in right wing propaganda. Peterson's hero's journey comes from the transit of the moon through the zodiac, which is why they're called months.
      Blame the victim:
      The strategy is to make the aggressor's feelings the goalposts, everything is oriented around their needs and approval; a war of attrition using subjective language and logical fallacies such as incredulity, which amounts to disbelief, and acting as if this belief is something the victim is responsible for.
      "Look what you made me do"
      *In the context of child sexual abuse (CSA) the **_gaslighting_** is often used to convince the victim all the abusive behaviours are fine, normal and an expression of “love” (for eg Patriotism, Christianity, Service). It is used to ensure the victim doesn’t speak out about it and doesn’t fight back. It can also be used in concert with other **_grooming_** tactics like fear and isolation. Ultimately the aim is to legitimise a worldview that is detached from reality, and therefore arbitrary. Now they can call evil good and good evil*
      *>>Trivializing:* *The victim’s feelings are made to feel like they don’t matter, are **_unfounded_** or they are weak for thinking so.* (woke/ lib/ groomer/ unamerican etc)
      *>>Countering: This is quintessential gaslighting.* *They **_directly counter the memories and perceptions of the victim._*
      *>>Repetitive Questions: The abusive partner makes the victim doubt what they think or feel by asking the same question multiple times.* by doing so they preemptively assume the role of an authority by virtue of being rude. The shock value is the whole point, it's the politics of Terrorism.
      *>>Diverting: The abuser diverts the subject and puts the blame into outside circumstances.*
      *>>No true Scotsman, or appeal to purity* is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to *protect their generalized statement from a falsifying counterexample* by trying to _exclude the counterexample_ improperly.
      This is the Core of White Supremacist ideology.
      *"What Others Say" (Appeal to Populism)*
      The abuser tells the victim what other people "think" about the victim, the abuser and/or the situation on whole. Also known as an appeal to populism, the basis of Authoritarian Communism, and Cults, "if many believe it then it must be true" (whether people actually agree with the position and whether it is true or not). Bolshevism itself means "the Majority" and is no different to Fascist appeals to a "Moral Majority" Patriotism is a form of Authoritarian Communism.
      Other than direct contradiction and disbelief other strategies for Gaslighting include Begging the Question, and the use of Strawman arguments; refuting a reframed argument *different from the one actually under discussion* while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction.
      Through the exercise of overwhelming a subject with countless contradicting premises and subjective terms a game of Pigeon Chess is played to deter criticism and break down a person's defences, until they no longer trust their own feelings, and rely solely on an outside source for direction. This is clearly demonstrated in the Maga cult, and is repeated in the convoluted dogma and magical thinking of Evangelism, New Age Spirituality, Ancient Aliens, and Graham Hancock. Always alluding to a secret to be revealed, but always in vague nebulous terms and undefined benefits of a far away place with no means to verify one way or the other.
      "Trust me bro"
      Effectively they all play the same role of an Enlightened Guru with deep understanding of life matters who can solve all your problems. It's likely no coincidence Reagan emptied the mental health services in the US, over half of those in Jail and living on the streets have undiagnosed ADHD.
      Auyawasca and Psychotropics are also a staple in brainwashing, as is telling the target they've been brainwashed and that the Guru has the cure, right wing propaganda uses this language heavily by flipping the script and arguing they are the victims, that they're the ones being silenced and cancelled, that they oppose child abuse while also defending it, that the deep State is out to get them, when they're the Deep State and always have been.
      Aleister Crowley was a big advocate of using Psychotropics to brainwash, just like the CIA, Opus Dei and MK Ultra.
      Brand and Trump both use hand waving and holding them outspread in a "settle" gesture called pacing. They can also stare at an opponent, "asserting dominance" to put the target on the back foot and unsure how to respond. Peterson does this a lot, along with rapid fire speech, and using an insulting or demanding tone. By using these tactics as well as loaded language (Newspeak) and inference (plausible deniability) only to move the goalposts and reframe when challenged.
      Trump's Mentor Roy Cohn admitted to using kids to blackmail politicians on behalf of israel, and trained under him alongside Epstein and Roger Stone. Trump's Jesuit mentor was Norman Vincent Peale, a 33rd degree Master Freemason. He was born June 14 during a Super Wolf Blood Moon to Fred Christ and Mary McKleod, he keeps a book of Hitler's speeches called _My New Order_ and uses it verbatim at his rallies. The Von Drumph family come from the same place as Hitler, Vienna Bavaria, Capital of the Holy Roman Empire. He paints himself Orange to represent Apollo; the Dawnbringer of Aleister Crowley's Golden Dawn. Jamal Kashoggi's Mossad brother Adnan sold Trump a Superyacht for Russian Roman Abromavich, who was also paying Boris and Farage for Brexit. Most of israel's govt are non religious Russians.

    • @neviamuktar
      @neviamuktar 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      💯💯

  • @DrejaAndi
    @DrejaAndi 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    MLK's letter from the Birmingham is one of the most relevant criticisms of the failures of politics that identifies why we rarely achieve real progress. It applies to the failures of modern politics since that time, and there is currently little sign that enough of us have learned this lesson.

  • @Robin.2226
    @Robin.2226 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Please interview
    Sangita Myska

    • @worldwide1856743
      @worldwide1856743 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      👌👌👌👌

    • @PauloAdriano-zo2ng
      @PauloAdriano-zo2ng 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Great Idea, but isn't she under a gag order from LBC?

    • @camoTiaras
      @camoTiaras 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@PauloAdriano-zo2ngFuck LBC

  • @mkayewing8983
    @mkayewing8983 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +79

    I don't like the terms proPalestinian/Isreali protests. This is where it is more accurate to use pro-ceasefire or anti-genocide/war crimes protests. The term pro-life has been twisted now, but wanting a cease-fire, halt to genocide is a true pro-life stance.

    • @katiekane5247
      @katiekane5247 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Language is routinely used to obfuscate and direct. It's sad how well it seems to work on most people.

    • @svenj.holmlund1422
      @svenj.holmlund1422 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      While I somewhat agree with you, the word Palestine is important to keep in the narrative

    • @jmhorange
      @jmhorange 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I like pro American. I don't want to fund a war which Israel said would take a few weeks. I don't want to fund a war where Israel said the war will be easy because it would cause Palestinians to rise up against Hamas once they saw the war Hamas started... What kind of poor strategic thinking is that? I don't want to find a war where there's no day after plan, Israel won't even allow the Palestinian authority, which is pretty much an Israeli proxy at this point, to govern Gaza. Israel constantly trolling the US and publicly contradicting Biden's statement like they can't pick up a phone and discuss disagreements. Just makes America look like a door mat.
      And finally genocide is not something you want on your country's resume. It has profound impact on interacting in the world and advocating our national interests. The war is already affecting how other countries see us. Norway said we are hypocritical with Israel and Russia. Norway, not like South Africa, Norway, a NATO member. Zelensky asked if Israel is in NATO cause America is stopping missiles from Iran while Russian missiles rain down on Ukraine.
      To me these protests are pro American. Yes Palestinian lives matter, yes there needs to be peace, but the protests are happening because of how involved America is in this and how much we have to lose. There's no protests for Sudan, where many civilians are being killed and risk a repeat of the first genocide there in the 21st century. More should be done to stop that of course, but the major reason for the lack of protesting is the US isn't bankrolling that conflict.

    • @mkayewing8983
      @mkayewing8983 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@svenj.holmlund1422 fair point. Anti-Palestinian genocide protests? Anti-war crimes against Palestinians protests?

    • @scottn2046
      @scottn2046 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I heard Robert Reich describe talking with student protestors - and he said the students rarely defined themselves as Pro-Palestinian they were more hostile to Israel's excessive and murderous use of deadly force, and the fact this violence was being waged by an in-group against an out-group. I see useful coherence with the protests against the Killing of George Floyd, probably protests many of the same people took part in. A protest against the selective, lawless use of state deadly force against a delegitimised other. And I wonder if that is a beginning to understand why the Forces of Conservatism are so determined wield the full force of their influence to support Israel.

  • @mohamedfarah1053
    @mohamedfarah1053 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Let Zeteo be the magnet for all the justice and truth seekers in your company!

  • @fotowala1
    @fotowala1 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    Window was broken by a masked person in front of a camera to discredit the protesting groups, who was it that broke the window ?

    • @Uncanny_Mountain
      @Uncanny_Mountain 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ehem
      911
      Cough
      Vietnam
      Cough
      Lavon Affair
      COUGH
      National Socialists

    • @luv2fly745
      @luv2fly745 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Agent provocateur

    • @bibblesworld540
      @bibblesworld540 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Window was broken by pro Biden or pro Israeli

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@luv2fly745 Most likely.
      ...The protesters have to mask up to avoid being doxxed.
      I usually wear masks at protests myself-if my politics came to popular attention, I might have problems getting work.

  • @deborahhennessey
    @deborahhennessey 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +69

    Well, well. Imagine my surprise seeing Mehdi and Owen on the same platform. 9th Generation Canadian here, and I've been watching Mehdi for years and discovered Owen after October last year. I've been watching the media that covers truthfully what is happening in Gaza and The West Bank, and it has been heartbreaking. One thing if I may suggest, is to remember that Canada exists, and it does not give ANY military aid to Israel, although we have diplomatic relations. We now also have many protests and encampments across Canada at Universities, and it would be nice if Mehdi could cover the Canadian response to Gaza. I can't vouch for Alberta (our Texas) but so far, the protests and encampments have been allowed, and many are public in Toronto, my hometown. We also restored UNRWA funding within a month, and all aid that goes to the region is earmarked for Gaza and The West Bank. It might be important to focus on some positive responses and Countries, as well as the negative. I've spent a good deal of the past 8 years trying to help my American friends cope with, understand, and make informed decisions in elections, and am daily engaged in such. This is a nerve-wrecking time for Canada too, as what happens in November will affect us as well. I also want to remind Mehdi that one of my proudest moments as a young at the time Canadian, was when our PM Jean Chretien stood up in Parliament in 2001 and told Canadians directly that we would NOT be joining in the illegal war in Iraq. Am enjoying your new project Mehdi. Very professional and high quality. I certainly hope for all involved that a permanent ceasefire will happen as soon as possible and that famine will be staved off. We've got a maga wannabe PP Conservative who will most likely win the next election, so we will be depending for a change upon a more sane US democracy. I do hope Pres. Biden does an about face, or at least speaks sincerely to the concerns and realities in Gaza. It's hard to teach an old dog new tricks, and the brain isn't as elastic as one ages, although he has surprised me in many ways doing some progressive things. Thanks again for this channel!!

    • @larabraver
      @larabraver 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I really enjoyed reading your comment. Kudos to you all your efforts. May Allah reward you 🙏

    • @sandrajensen497
      @sandrajensen497 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There is absolutely no hope that Biden will change his genocidal stance on Gaza. His brain is frozen in time, and he has historically supported all unjust wars.

    • @R12390
      @R12390 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sadly, our liberal government is more pro Palestinian than they can say. We are in lockstep with US.

    • @MrBrock314
      @MrBrock314 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pretty sure you mean 2003 since the Iraq war started in 2003. 2001 was Afghanistan which Canada did join.

    • @mr.f1688
      @mr.f1688 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Every time people protest they turn out to be right .. Just look at the history. Genocide Joe is lowlife politician period .. Genocide Joe is here to protect the killer and condemn the victims .,

  • @loliejean
    @loliejean 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I live outside Boston. I've been to a lot of rallies, marches, standouts and visited a few local encampments. The ONLY instances of violence or attempted violence I've observed have been from pro Israeli counter-protesters/instigators. I don't count the use of 'From the River to the Sea' chants🙄

    • @BabyGirlDontEvenPlay
      @BabyGirlDontEvenPlay 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I do. 9/11 sympathizers deserve no attention.

  • @tracysauvage1351
    @tracysauvage1351 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +218

    I was born in April 1963.
    I am white.
    But I'm not really moderate.
    From Ireland.
    Yellow roses for Abubaker.

    • @houdiniwho
      @houdiniwho 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      I was just in Ireland and I want to emigrate there.

    • @Uncanny_Mountain
      @Uncanny_Mountain 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pythagoras means Heart of the Serpent, he was born in Sidon, a fishing Port in Phoenicia. His mother recieved a message from the Oracle of Delphi that he would become a great Leader and Teacher. Sidon means Kingdom of the Fish, and the Essenes, who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls, worshipped Pythagoras. The Sarcophagus of Eschmun III found in Sidon names him as the Widow's Scion, aka Hiram Abiff, the Founder of Freemasonry, of which Tyre was the premier Capital (at least equal to Thebes).
      In 911BC Rameses II married the Queen of Sidon, home of Jezebel (Daughter or consort of Baal, basically "Queen") founding Neo Assyrian Babylon, an alliance between Egypt and Hiram, father of Jezebel and King of Assyria, and Egypt, forming the Phoenician colonies and building the first Temple of Melqart to commemorate the alliance.
      The Si in Sidon is the basis of the Latin Exe, or X, and is the basis of the Cross, or Chi Rho that Constantine painted on his shields. Also known as the Cross of Tyre, or Cross of Baal, being Ra-El, or Ba'El. Oddly enough irrational numbers can also be mapped using Euler's number, producing a Templar Cross in the process: a map of where Eclipses are most likely to occur. This cross can also be seen around the neck of Nimrod in Assyria, and is consistent with the Union Jack, and Solstice Calendar found in the Vatican Shiva Lingam.
      Shiva is the Hebrew word for 7, their culture also found its way to Japan (via the Phillipines) ultimately becoming Shintoism.
      It was the Phoenicians who gave their name to the Pole Star, which they used to Navigate the Oceans using the Zodiac, thats what the Antikythera mechanism was for, and with it they wrote the Byblos Baal, what we now call the Bible. The first form of the Bible was written in 325BC and called the Vaticanus Greacus, or Son of the Sacred Serpent, a reference to Sirius, the basis of the Sothic Calendar, which uses a Hexidecimal or base 60 system found in all the Megalithic sites around the world.
      In the second century AD astronomer Valentinus Vettori transcribed it into a Lunar chart of 13 houses, what we now call the Zodiac. Horoscope means Star Watcher, and the Phoenician word for Saturn, or El, was Israel or El, (Fruit) of Isis and Ra. Alternatively El is the Father of Ra the Sun and Consort of Isis the Earth, aka El is the Moon.
      El is the primary God of the Phoenicians, representing the offspring of Egypt, and his consort Astarte or Ishtar represents the Assyrian half of the alliance. It may be possible to trace lineages and alliances through the naming of gods, which can be traced all the way to Ireland and the Vikings, and to Indonesia and the Americas, even as far away as New Zealand and Australia.
      It denotes Sirius as Son of Orion and Pleaides, which sits at 33 degrees of the Zodiac. The basis of the Sothic (dir Seth) Calendar of the Egyptians. The New Moon in this position marks Rosh Hashanah, the Egyptian, Celtic, Phoenician, and Assyrian New Year, the first New Moon of September, which is called September because it's the 7th House of the Zodiac, when the Sun is in Ophiuchus.
      The Phoenix, Benben, or Bennu is the Egyptian word for Heron, a Feathered 'Serpent'. It baptised itself in frankincense and myrrh at BaalBek, and then alights atop the Pyramid, upon the Holy Grail, or Altar of Ra every 630 years to take three days off the calendar during the course of the first New Moon of Nisan, which means "Prince". The Capstone of Pyramids is even called the Benben or Bennu.
      The Phoenix is found in all religions, which are all Astrological Allegory for the Moon travelling through the Constellations, as a soul migrating from body to body, this is the basis of Joseph Campbell's Monomyth, or the Hero's Journey. The various planets no doubt play their own roles as portents, omens, and aspects, this astrology is the science of the Bronze age, and lasted all the way up to the 20th Century. Reincarnation was an early teaching of the Christian Church, and likely relates to the lineage of Kings (The Pan is Dead, long live Pan!)
      Phoenicians represent the interim step between Egypt and Greece, their artisans and culture exceeding that of the Greeks, who literally adopted the Phoenician Alphabet, which we still use to this day, sounding out words phonetically. Phoenician is aliiterated in Venetian, and Vikings, being Kings of the Sea.
      The Bennu is the Egyptian Phoenix, to Phoenicians the Hoyle, no different to the traditions of the Etruscans, who saw birds as sacred, just as the Celts. Hebrew and Iber as in Iberia have the same root meaning over, as in overseas, as in those who travel "over the sea." A colony called Iberia also appears on the Eastern shores of the Black Sea, where the same Dolmens and Megalithic culture originating in Ireland and Brittany appeared circa 4500BC.
      _Phoenician_ means Scions of the Phoenix, the first Bible: Vaticanus Greacus Son of the Sacred Serpent (Prince). Then there's the Essenes, Sons of Light, the Tuatha De Danaan, Sons of Light, Annunaki, Sons of Light, Arthur Pendragon means Arthur Son of the Dragon; Chertoff is Russian for "Son of the Devil" and Dracula also means Son of the Dragon, Masons have been known at times to call themselves the "Brotherhood of the Great White Serpent". The Ziggurat of Anu also denotes her as a great white Serpent, while New Grange and the Bru na Boinne in Ireland (4000BC) coated buildings with white quartz to denote the Moon. The Moon itself travels outside the Solar Elliptic by 5 degrees, which means it passes through specific constellations in a serpentine fashion that is always changing, but repeats every 19 years, the time it took to train a Druid or Magi, Magi meaning "Teacher" the Phoenix is also associated with this sacred number 19.
      The name "Pharoah" means "Great House" or "House of Light" and Cairo used to be called Babel. Pharaoh's themselves wore a hooded crown representing feathers, just as Native American Chiefs, ie the Feathered Serpent, they were also called the Commander in Chief. Aztecs also had Serpent Kings, (Canaan means Serpent Kings, and Sidon was a Son of Canaan, and Great Grandson of Noah) who were called to lead with cunning and guile, being the very virtue by which they claim the title in the first place; but to be seen in public as just and diplomatic.
      "As wise as Serpents, but gentle as Doves" the old Egyptian flag of an Eagle attacking a Snake is also reflected in the Modern Mexican flag, denoting the Constellations of Serpentis (13th sign of the Zodiac) and Aquila.
      The dimensions and 12 mathematical constants of the Great Pyramid are also expressed in New Grange, and Stonehenge, as well as in Watson Brake, (2500BC) and Teotihuacan, which correlates to the Phoenician/ Sumerian Hexidecimal system, which is what our modern systems of time are based on. In fact it unlocks a kind of fractal pattern that is reflected throughout creation.
      Officially no one knows who invented astrology, the zodiac, navigation by the stars, and time keeping. But whoever built the pyramids, and pioneered the 24hr clock in Egypt 5000 years ago also knew the exact dimensions of the Earth, as well as the speed of light. These calculations can all be made using these Megalithic sites as surveyors use a theodolite. Specifically Teotihuacan, which sits 180 degrees opposite Cairo, and has the exact same footprint. The ideal positions to determine the speed of light using the transit of Venus, by which one can accurately determine Longitude for navigation. Capt Cook did the same thing in 1774 when he 'discovered' Easter Island.
      The only culture that fits the bill was wiped out "not one stone upon the other" by the Romans in 146BC. Tyre, the capital of Phoenicia (israel) sat just offshore from Uru Salaam: City of the New Moon, or City of Peace. The root of the name Jerusalem, and was also seized by Rome in 70AD after a 13 year seige. The gap between is 216 years.
      Greek Dionysians built the Temple of Solomon (now called the Temple of Melqart) representing the Solar Lunar Metonic Calendar on which this system is based, they also carried mirrors, a practice associated with both the Magi and the Druids as well as Greek and Egyptian scholars, these Mirrors are Astrological charts called "Cycladian Frying Pans" and record the cycles of the planets. The first Temple of Melqart (the Phoenician form of Horus, or Hercules, or Pan, or Thor) representing the 13th Constellation of Ophiuchus or the Serpent Bearer (hence Orphic Serpent worship) had pillars of Emerald and Gold, representing Isis and Osiris. The Jerusalem Temple only took payment in "Shekels of Tyre" a currency minted during the Jewish rebellion against Rome. "Give that which is Ceasar's unto Ceasar"
      When Alexander sacked Tyre in 332BC they moved to Carthage meaning "New City" or New Jerusalem, where they built a second temple with Pillars of Bronze.
      Nebuchadnezzar also seiged Tyre for 13 years, taking the City captive in 573BC: the same time as the biblical account of the Jews. And again in 70AD after a three and a half year seige, also consistent with biblical accounts.
      Palaset was the name of a tribe of the Sea Peoples, Pallas Set denotes the New Moon of Ammun Ra rising in Gemini, the Pallas Constellation of the Twins that stand before Orion. This occurs due West of the Temple of Solomon in Tyre between the Western Gates of Gibraltar, Gabriel's Altar, and is the basis of the name Pallastein, or Pallas Stone. As in the Philosopher's Stone or Holy Grail, Altar of Ammun Rah, the Rising Sun.
      The Cross of Tyre or Ba'El ❌ represents the Lunar maximums and minimums and correlates with the Cross Quarter days of the Solstice Calendar. Align the Cross ❌ Chi Rho Christian ✝️ and Star 🔯 to the zodiac and you have a Compass and a timepiece that can be used to Circumnavigate the globe.

    • @PauloAdriano-zo2ng
      @PauloAdriano-zo2ng 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      That's lovely dear. ❤😅
      Are you an Aries? 🤔

    • @YavuzSelim1981
      @YavuzSelim1981 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      I as a Turk Love our Irish Brothers and Sisters!

    • @jeremygardner5987
      @jeremygardner5987 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Ireland has been real from day 1. Shared a whiskey with an Irish gent who grew up in the troubles. Had a few laughs about some of the more poetic… acts of resistance against the occupation police.
      Love from Jamaica. 🇯🇲

  • @chemophile14
    @chemophile14 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I just came here to view and comment to support Mehdi Hassan channel

  • @rezrunnercl
    @rezrunnercl 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    That MLK QUOTE was mind-blowing and fits so well.

  • @mn-ru4li
    @mn-ru4li 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I don't know whether to call Biden "Genocide Joe" or "The White Moderate".

  • @Mark_zist_Anonoymous
    @Mark_zist_Anonoymous 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I love how quick zeteo is growing, I've always thought you were literally the one reporter on mainstream media that I trusted that would always speak truth to power, and you never bend under pressure. Keep it coming Mehdi.

  • @billmcdonald4335
    @billmcdonald4335 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    The first time I seriously considered that letter, it changed me in the very way MLK intended. I'm outta the way, and I'm fully signed on. My wish is that others like me sit down, suss it out, and follow MLK's lead. It's our best way forward.

  • @Lantey1
    @Lantey1 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    I really respect both Mr Hasan and Mr Jones as intelligent journalists who's veiwpoints can and hopefully will make the world a better place.

    • @Uncanny_Mountain
      @Uncanny_Mountain 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not without a plan of action
      Call for Govt by Citizen Initiated Referendum
      No more Parties or Politicians, occupy the capitals and March every Oct 14

  • @Julie-lk7mc
    @Julie-lk7mc 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Congress give BIBI a standing ovation disgusting

  • @jdcharlwood
    @jdcharlwood 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest - Paul Simon The Boxer

  • @tethergobrrr
    @tethergobrrr 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +139

    As an Australian child I was taught that the only genocide committed here was in Tasmania where 100% of the indigenous people annihilated. 90% - not genocide.
    At that time genocide according to the Geneva convention was still underway - the systematic theft of indigenous children was wrapping up but not eliminated.
    (Arguably it’s still ongoing. There’s no treaty. The land’s not ceded. The population doesn’t want to talk about it, on balance. Never did, still don’t.)

    • @halifaxeh
      @halifaxeh 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      Same in Canada 😰 and even worse in US where it is never talked about 😡

    • @c.brackens9918
      @c.brackens9918 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same in US. Accurate, factual descriptions of historical events that do not first dehumanize the oppressed and praise the oppressors are: anti-white, anti-christian, reverse discrimination, unpatriotic and treasonous, "demonic", "ungodly", "spirit of the anit-christ", and woke. Congress literally outlaws speaking the truth.

    • @shotelco
      @shotelco 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Hummm... Australia, Canada, The U.S., the peoples that took over Africa, the peoples that took over Palestine ... There's a _Common Thread_ amongst them, but I just can't put my finger on it.

    • @mn-ru4li
      @mn-ru4li 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      ALL of Australia's public holidays celebrate colonial imperialism and Christianity... Not a SINGLE day to celebrate our indigenous culture and history.

    • @tethergobrrr
      @tethergobrrr 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@shotelco Two common threads, same culprits. The terra nullius/‘land without a people’ model seemed to be employed when they had a particular population they wanted to offload.

  • @masiosare3307
    @masiosare3307 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

    Remember that Israel lobbied for years to oppose the massacre of Armenians by Turkey being called a genocide protesting when France officially recognized it as a genocide.

    • @bluehalo8604
      @bluehalo8604 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      How evil

    • @shikarahaar
      @shikarahaar 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Israel has now come out and said they don’t recognise the Bosnian genocide either.

    • @Saddam_al-Husseini
      @Saddam_al-Husseini 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No doubt in the future we will have Palestinian genocide deniers too, similar to Erdogan’s current government in Turkey, from Israel who claim that the Gazans all supported Hamas and so were right to be collectively punished. If they are saying it now, they will say it in the future too. I hate to say it, but it won’t be the last time we hear of innocent Gazan civilians being called “human animals” unfortunately. 😢 🇵🇸

  • @daveelcock607
    @daveelcock607 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    On point! None so blind as those who will or do not see!

  • @LittleSecrets1000
    @LittleSecrets1000 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    What a faaarrrrking collaboration. Holy moly!!! ❤❤❤

  • @TheAnticorporatist
    @TheAnticorporatist 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    It’s actually the height of conceit for people in America to be condemning these protests as they’re actually being held at universities in Gaza by Palestinian locals, so I don’t get where we get off on telling them what to do! Oh, what’s that? They can’t be held on Gazan college campuses as they have been bombed to rubble nor by Gazan college students as not only have THOUSANDS (of Gazan COLLEGE KIDS! How does that not make you mad?!?) been cut down in their prime by IOF guns, bombs and missiles, but the rest of them, if for some reason they decided to go back to the cordite-reeking-bits of crushed rock and sand that used to be their dormitories, would get sniped by IOF sharpshooters as some of these have been documented to have been designated “shoot on sight” zones! Biting irony indeed that they call themselves the “most moral army”, and anyone who has ever worn the uniform of a U.S. servicemen should be DISGUSTED and OFFENDED to hear that they do so!

    • @OneSixSun
      @OneSixSun 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      🏆💯

  • @americo7965
    @americo7965 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Love this format. Refreshing compared to the usual garbage on main stream media and other social media garbage. Thank you.

  • @misbakhan20
    @misbakhan20 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Wow 228k subs. Well done. Growing fast!

  • @user-em6ie2be7x
    @user-em6ie2be7x 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    I really like this channel Zeteo really has discussions the whole world needs to listen to.

  • @user-jo9hq1co2b
    @user-jo9hq1co2b 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Thank you for real journalism

  • @ZohraFtaiti
    @ZohraFtaiti 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Thank you both for all that you do, for your integrity 🙏🙏🙏

  • @AmandaWilliamsonMovingSoma
    @AmandaWilliamsonMovingSoma 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    The best journalist in the UK. I love the way he knows history so well. What a brilliant mind.

  • @kr902
    @kr902 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Brilliant conversation, brilliant insight, thank you to both of you.

  • @karenazimi7088
    @karenazimi7088 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Goodmorning Mehdi&Owen!

  • @maryhyland4796
    @maryhyland4796 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    You said it. There is a difference between justice & judgment.

  • @MK-pt9xt
    @MK-pt9xt 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    I love this collab before even listening to it ❤

    • @tracysauvage1351
      @tracysauvage1351 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I read the Harper Lee follow up to 'To kill a Mocking Bird'
      I think she nailed it.
      The paternalistic attitude even from
      White Moderates.
      Almost the attitude
      We have to oversee it.
      The black people really aren't educated enough to take charge of their own destiny.
      What all colonizers say.
      From Ireland 🇮🇪
      ❤Gaza

  • @ricardosharry8944
    @ricardosharry8944 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Really pleased with this collob

  • @shiharhameed-ce3zb
    @shiharhameed-ce3zb 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Two great people. Thank you.

  • @Zhh854
    @Zhh854 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Two of my favorite journalists 👏

  • @sevam8244
    @sevam8244 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Two great journalist,God bless you guys.❤❤❤❤

  • @mhmdsarar6980
    @mhmdsarar6980 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Byden self-destructed himself

  • @ianmaidment2258
    @ianmaidment2258 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    My new favorite news outlet

  • @hydra66
    @hydra66 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    After listenting to this, I went back and read the MLK "letter from Birminhgam Jail." Good points that are still very relevant. Thank you for reminding people to dig further rather than settling for the spin of a media mouthpiece.

  • @aasiamahmood731
    @aasiamahmood731 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    👏👏👏Like minded heroes. 👍👍👍🇵🇸🇵🇸

  • @eggggg3577
    @eggggg3577 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Really great work on Zeteo

  • @karenazimi7088
    @karenazimi7088 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    I was taught in Catholic school about Palestine,it was in the Bible. You're also told these story's about Israelites. But in my mind it was always Palestine and always will be. How dare Israel try to say they have the rite to GENOCIDE!
    FREE PALESTINE!
    Saw a program on PBS about how the occupation of PALESTINE in 1909!
    I Never knew,Britain had their hands in the OCCUPATION of Palestine!😮

    • @semsemeini7905
      @semsemeini7905 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Check definition of Genocide. read the Hamas Charter. It's like Mein Kampf.

    • @BobHaijerJr
      @BobHaijerJr 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@semsemeini7905dawg Israel has been killing Palestinians 50 years before Hamas existed. At this point you can’t convince anyone with “what about Hamas” you also weren’t watching the video clearly where Hasan asks Piers why he doesn’t have a problem with the likud party saying “from the river to the sea, Israeli Sovereignty” the original quote from 1970’s.

    • @purrple.shadows
      @purrple.shadows 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@semsemeini7905Israel's charter is to wipe out the indigenous population and settle their lands.

  • @naymatunc-rc6vs
    @naymatunc-rc6vs 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    Its nice to see you again together 👍

  • @user-dl9hl5ob7q
    @user-dl9hl5ob7q 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Mehdi, thank you!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ljt3084
    @ljt3084 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Too outspoken or two outspoken.
    Clever branding. Looking forward to this.
    👊🏻😉👍

  • @stavxplz
    @stavxplz 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    You're both incredible!
    Much love from Greece ❤

  • @Dudemeister
    @Dudemeister 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Even Jon Stewart called the Occupy Wall Street protests dirty. Their coverage of that movement didn’t take it seriously at all

  • @metalhead2550
    @metalhead2550 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    How many others got distracted watching Owen's cat in the mirror? Lol Great collaboration as always you two, keep up the great work on holding the establishment to account!

    • @kathleenhillock9366
      @kathleenhillock9366 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Patiently waiting for Owen to prepare the next bowl of food😂😂.

  • @ahmedsaddique2239
    @ahmedsaddique2239 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Mother had a heart of gold, but she couldn’t change the world.

  • @Mohika881
    @Mohika881 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Very interesting. I’ll look forward to watching this regularly.

  • @user-lt7xv3ti6r
    @user-lt7xv3ti6r 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I was a Vietnam War student protestor. Thank you for your understanding and voicing of the source of the students' protest as motivated by compassion for humans who are suffering and dying and your unveiling of the way the university administration requested police responses have been vastly disproportionate and have prejudiced the public against the protesters!! Mahalo!

  • @naaaziz
    @naaaziz 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Both are my favourite... So honest, it's refreshing...

  • @Farokudagelap
    @Farokudagelap 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The establishment always reverts to violence and intimidation when it panics.

  • @iwanttobelieve5970
    @iwanttobelieve5970 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I love you both. Way to make me feel old though. 😂😂😂 I was born in 74.

  • @RAOAlbesharat
    @RAOAlbesharat 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    All respect to the honest brave journalists

  • @johnbhoy2489
    @johnbhoy2489 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    They've made it illegal to criticise Israeli government in USA,WTF?

  • @gracelynmeade5640
    @gracelynmeade5640 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Tha k uou both for your humanity. Educate thise politi about justice.

  • @Simonax57
    @Simonax57 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    How good it is that two great communicators like Mehdi and Owen come together to comment on current events, this serious situation that has the world on tenterhooks. We feel around the world that important values ​​are at stake today and we fervently hope that "the just, the good and the beautiful" will win. Thank you for giving us strength and hope.

  • @sharonmassey2923
    @sharonmassey2923 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Mehdi, earlier I listened to Joy Reid's interview with Queen Rania of Jordan, and it's the first honest report that has come out of MSNBC. I was honestly shocked to be hearing it. The Queen was fantastic, and did not mince her words. She put mainstream news to shame, calling out the hypocrisy of the reporting and coverage, among many other things. Powerful.

  • @JW-mw7sr
    @JW-mw7sr 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It is so pleasant to hear these two knowledgeable, intelligent, and empathetic people's discussions about the world. I hope these types of voices will become the mainstream in the future.

  • @zamzamabdi8960
    @zamzamabdi8960 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Two of the most unapologetically well spoken and amazing journalists 😊thank you both like always ❤

  • @user-sq4il9zm5u
    @user-sq4il9zm5u 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    My two favorite journalist that speaks and stands for humanity and human rights ❤️ from Australia.

  • @mrz9263
    @mrz9263 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Genocide Joe got a phone call and he said, "Yes Sir".

  • @OmarTravelAdventures
    @OmarTravelAdventures 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    excellent work!!!

  • @puravidadew7031
    @puravidadew7031 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    This is exactly the problem in the United States when you have just a two part system. Sometimes there’s absolutely nobody who is worth voting for.

    • @timothyrussell4445
      @timothyrussell4445 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's infinitely better to have nobody worth voting for than not to be able to vote.

    • @MrBrock314
      @MrBrock314 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@timothyrussell4445 Are you sure about that? Benevolent dictatorships are superior to incompetent bureaucracy. It's just that they're so darn rare....

  • @mariaa6918
    @mariaa6918 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    What a treat. What a combo. Two of my favourites. Thank you both......

  • @inayahtube
    @inayahtube 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    You are a great man!

  • @amorbendhia1839
    @amorbendhia1839 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    the cat is so cute cleaning itself .. thanks to both

  • @janapender4989
    @janapender4989 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    2 treasures ❤❤❤

  • @derasiatelo3361
    @derasiatelo3361 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Amazing this twooo 👍🫵🏿💪💪💪

  • @FM-yp3wh
    @FM-yp3wh 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Keep putting out this content!!! We love it.

  • @jjb.6152
    @jjb.6152 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Love ZetOwen!!

  • @jadugarqatil
    @jadugarqatil 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Zeteo has an energy and vitality that the musty and moldy mainstream media will need to stay alive.

    • @OneSixSun
      @OneSixSun 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      YES!

  • @sabrinayounisaden7238
    @sabrinayounisaden7238 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Thank you gentlemen 🎉

  • @rw2578
    @rw2578 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    The world is a terrible place because of terrible so called leaders. WE vote for and pay these people and I would say its time for a change in the rules. Hold them accountable for actions and words. They lie children die and that can not be acceptable.

    • @Uncanny_Mountain
      @Uncanny_Mountain 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      PRO PEACE 🕊️
      PARTY FOR PEACE ✌️
      Focus on the solution SIR: *Govt by Referenda 70/30 split.* By Mascot Party or *Velvet Revolution*
      Single Issue Referendums with thresholds and a social contract means Communities can vote their own laws.
      A Public Authority can audit police and prosecute bad cops in our own courts.
      Nationalise resources and give Indigenous peoples the right of Sovereignty over them as Guardians.
      This can be achieved through a General Strike or Velvet Revolution, much like the Occupy movement, peacefully occupying State Buildings until a People's Mandate can be implemented.
      With the appropriate checks and balances, you could have a national digital forum where qualified professionals can debate the issues in a public setting without all the disinformation and bad faith antics, hatespeech etc.
      Any vote would need to pass the 70% threshold, with a veto or _rewrite_ vote needing 30%.
      The issues would be debated, the public educated, and then a vote taken. Votes that fail will have to wait a year before trying again. Any new proposal (Citizen Initiated Referendum) would have to reach a threshold of support before it made it onto the register. This would be subject to a Social Contract (New Constitution) that forbids human rights abuses and discrimination.
      That can be written in the same manner based on the core principles we all share. Councils and Boards could operate in the same fashion at Scale.
      It works in a way that obligates people to better educate themselves ( that is to use logic and evidence in their reasoning ) for a better understanding of the issues, and then take collective responsibility for the outcomes. As opposed to the divisive US v them scapegoating and bi-partisan finger pointing the current Capitalist Pyramid Scheme runs on.
      We need Government by People's Referenda, either through Mascot Candidates or Peaceful Occupation of the Capitals until one is established.
      Make it an annual March on Oct 14.
      Take back the Temples under a single white flag! 🏳️

    • @farhadchaudhry
      @farhadchaudhry 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Terrible leaders selected by terrible rich people.

  • @MudBuddy55
    @MudBuddy55 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I just read where Kahn won his reelection race. I wasn’t aware his opponent was such a lunatic until I listed to you guys talk about it. So thank you for bringing it to my attention because it made me feel a little bit better knowing he won.

  • @ataurrahmanselim8170
    @ataurrahmanselim8170 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Two good human

  • @mdronaldo7823
    @mdronaldo7823 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great show.

  • @jeanmacgillivray5224
    @jeanmacgillivray5224 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thank You