I love that you point out that capitalism has been overcome. If only the writers of Picard had noticed that about the lore... or, really bothered to learn anything about the lore of Star Trek.
Love Sisko's Creole kitchen and ST: Ascendancy, great game! :) Mr Parker, you ability to make videos is improving with time, honestly I think you are the best how to play content creator. Is a shame that we are not able to make it work for Fractal Beyond the Void.
I've been back and forth on getting into this game for a while. Your reviews/gameplays, as always, are amazing and wicked helpful; some of the better content out there. Thank you!! Also, YES, THANK YOU!! DS9 is my favorite too and I always get flak for it because all my friends are TNG fans.
Thanks! And look, TNG is great, I'd say it probably had the best individual episodes, but DS9 was a better series overall (and had some amazing episodes of its own)
@RTFM 100% TNG is great with awesome episodes, they just weren't always connected with an overarching plot. DS9 was. I enjoy TNG, DS9 is just more entertaining to watch!! plus, we get the Dominion which is my favorite Star Trek faction!!
1 -- yes, DS9 is one of the best SF series of all time -- there are four, IMNSHO: ...a -- Firefly -- best SF "western" -- fun, not all that serious ...b -- Babylon 5 -- best long-term story arc ...c -- The Expanse -- best truly HARD SF -- no magic techs (warp speed, phasers, or shields). Almost everything applied (for at least the first few seasons) is something we can do or close to do (e.g., no "new physics", just engineering) already. ...d -- DS9 -- best, most complete use of SF Tropes. Time travel, alt history, alt universes, space combat, you name it. They also considerably expanded the usage of the Holodeck beyond what ST used it for, as a "place to play games" -- with DS9, it actually became a place with atmosphere to hang out in. And finally, they considerably explored alternative storytelling methods, as with "Take Me Out To The Holosuite", and "Far Beyond the Stars" I do ack, the first couple seasons of DS9 were pretty poor (same for STNG, Voyager, and Enterprise) but once they worked out what worked and did not -- which, for DS9 was that they needed the Defiant, Worf, and the Klingon problems to add longer-term tension), it went off on the run. I will also assert that Section 31 was a good addition, though some disagree. And it also "broke" the pure, unrealistic Utopia of ST a little bit, which irks some people, but not me... And finally, I think, in "In The Pale Moonlight" is the best ST episode ever. ======= AS TO GETTING THE GAME -- I would say it has the most replayability of any game I've yet played -- and that numbers in the multiple hundreds, my own collection is >150 games, and there are a lot I don't own but have played with others' -- I have played upwards from 80 games of STA, and it's pretty much NEVER repeated at all. It rarely even "rhymes". Each game plays out completely differently, once you involve all the factions as well as the Borg -- do note that I also don't start with the Borg in the game, the 3 borg disks go into the system stack, and the borg cards go into the exploration deck , with a "safe zone" of 2x#p (2x the number of players) in cards and system disks which have no borg and no phenoms. (e.g., for 4p, 8 "safe" non-borg cards and 8 non-borg, non-phenom disks). This leads to another factor of variability to the game, as sometimes the borg come into play early and everyone has to cooperate to keep them at bay, and other times they are a total non-factor. This, plus the way the factions work and the planets come out all factor into making each game like a fingerprint -- unlike any others. We also start with the 8-6-4 "advanced start" token -- that is, you have 8r, 6s, 4c tokens. I also would recommend, if you're on FB, to find the Star Trek Ascendancy forum/group. They have a lot of fan factions noted there which have been fully playtested.
Great job buddy! Can't wait to find a copy and give it a go. Orville is great btw, good on you for the shout out. Absolutely hated 1st season of Picard and didn't bother to watch the 2nd but hell, a mate convinced me to give the 3rd season a go and man... It's actually pretty great (obviously not perfect though). It completely ignores the first 2 seasons and feels like a proper sequel to Next Gen.
Did a great job at explaining my favorite game. What I love about all of gale force nine games is that they nail the theme of all their games. A lot of people for some reason have a hard time understanding the rules. My favorite faction is the ferengi bc I like to distract my rivals by asking if I can touch their ear lobes plus I love all the rules of acquisition cards. We also do a house rule if a players home system has been taken over as long as they have a planet with a star base and can produce ships they can still play. We consider this as their government is in exile. We have not played the dominion or breen expansions yet even though their is something similar in those new expansions. We are also considering when we do get around playing those is if bajor is chosen out of available planets the player will have the option to use standard disc or use the worm hole disc ( but like I said we haven't gotten to play that expansion yet). To list my favorite star trek shows/movies. Shows 1. Tng (it's what got me into star trek even though ds9 story is better) 2. Ds9 3. Strange new worlds 4. Enterprise 5. Tos 6. Prodigy 7. Lower decks(good to have on in the background)8. Animated series 9. Picard 10. Voyager (they ruined the Borg and Jayneway was terrible everytime they had a chance to get home she screwed it up) 10. Discovery. Movies 1. Insurrection (bc we get the riker maneuver and I love riker even though it's not really a good move) 2. Voyage home 3. First contact 4. star trek beyond 5. Wrath of Khan. 6. Undiscovered country 7. Generations 8. Search for spok 9. Star trek (09 still a good movie love the cast) 10. Into darkness 11. Nemesis 12. Finale frontier 13. St the motion picture
Just fyi, your house rule isn't even a house rule (unless your purpose was to make it easier to be eliminated). According to the rules, as long as you still have even one ship, you're still in the game.
It means as long as you have the ability to make ships which means an opponent can't control any star bases either so it actually prolongs the game bc you could control both opponents home systems and if they have control of a starbase they can still play bc they can still produce ships
@@michaelhannell4083 Ah, I see. So you need almost total obliteration to win through Supremacy. Would you say that makes winning through Ascendancy easier if Supremacy is harder?
@@RTFM as long as you don't wipe out a plant if you invade and destroy nodes. it is easier for a ascendancy victory with that house rule bc if you are able to keep culture nodes intact. If they get destroyed the other factions fight to get there home system back.
Picard is a better captain than Sisko, but yeah, DS9 is a better show. TNG is a close 2nd though. And hey, I love Voyager, but I've rewatched that show and it is just not as good.
One subtle aspect of the research gained from phenomena is that, if it is an initial find, THEN you can place the research on an existing tech. ALL subsequent research goes into your pool, and can't be placed on your techs until the start of your next turn (build phase). You can only put it onto a tech IF And Only If you just found it. If you find it, fail, and someone else links in -- even if it's the same round -- and succeeds, they still can't put the research onto their tech.
Actually, if I, the feds, attack the rommies, then I, the feds, MUST take back my TA, but the rommies do NOT have to do so, though that is often by far the most rational of options. There are some strange exceptions to that, however, where it can be relevant. Most of them involve the Ferengi. Also, to get the "free fleet assembly", you must build at least 3 new ships at that location, and can add any other ships, new or existing, to said fleet.
@@nickbrutanna9973 Hey, thanks for the spot! I've added a subtitle about the fleet creation thing, though I do mention the 3+ rule when I talk about building. However I can't find anything in the rulebook about the Romulans not having to give back Trade Agreements after a betrayal. Do you know where that is so I can verify? Also, on p. 26 in the "More to Learn" section it seems to state that no matter when you successfully brave a phenomenon's hazard, you can place the research on a project. If there's something that contradicts that, please let me know, otherwise I'm going to leave it as is.
Interessting, this game reminds me a lot of INTERVENTION - Reach for the stars. Some ideas in a more simple mechanic you have in this 2016 published game.
I had some financial issues last year and had to sell off several of my board games, including this one. I got it from my kids as a Christmas gift and it hurt me to have to lose it like that. One day i hope i can get it again, it's one of the more interesting games of it'd kind.
I got a question as i'm preparing a session video and I'm not sure how we always played a specific rule: when a planet (not a phenomenon) got a threat, this threat is active for all the ships stopping in that planet until what? Until the exploration card is revealed? Until there's any npc's structure on the planet? Or always also if you colonize ite? We always played that the treath is active ultil the exploration card is revealed and it remain active if we found a civilization ultil that civilization is in game. What should be the exact rule?
I thought it was strange, but I never found anything that said that worlds that are naturally hazardous become unhazardous under any normal circumstances. So that means to me that even after colonizing it, the world still presents a danger for all who stop there. Makes it good place to drop a starbase though.
Galaxy Quest is a classic, but because it's more of a spoof of Star Trek and its fandom as opposed to an earnest effort, it didn't feel right to include in the list. Still one of my favorite films though.
Can you planetary invasion from an adjacent sector or do you have to be inside the system following a ship battle? Same question if you have a trade agreement in place.
You have to be in the system to do a planetary invasion, and it's a separate action from the ship battle. If you have a trade agreement, attacking their ships or trying to invade their planet will result in a betrayal, dissolving the agreement. Hope that helps!
Season three was pretty good, but I've also been enjoying Lower Decks more the more I watch it. If anything Discovery might be dropping a step, but other than that it's pretty much the same.
The only real reason to use Impulse that I can see is to blockade a system with few space lanes from an aggressor. Are there any other reasons, because warp just seems better...
You will be using warp the majority of the time. With the exception of the Federation's impulse improvement, warp is almost always more efficient. Impulse is more often used after combat in my experience. That and blockades, like you mentioned.
I calls em like I sees em. And yeah, Picard season 3 has been much better than the first two. Might push it up a bit, but since I'm judging the whole of the series, it's not gonna raise it more than one spot.
Post- capitalism is incorrect post-scarcity is a more accurate term the Federation has a access based economy because of their near-infinite resources and their government still has to engage in capitalism in the larger galactic trade economy. and their citizens still have the concept of ownership and self interest outside of service to the state.
To me their business model is too much oriented on money. There are no limited tokens principally, but in reality one can run out. Normally a game would solve it by adding general tokens form cartboard but here one has to buy additional plastic once. For a lot of money. I which somebody told me that before purchase.
This game has got to be one of my biggest dissapointments. When I read the rulebook it all sounded awesome on paper but just didnt click with me in practice. My main problem is there is too much randomess involved. I know a lot of people who liked it but I didnt.
I will absolutely @ you for ranking OS 5th (unforgivable) and Lower Decks, objectively the third best Star Trek show and the best Star Trek show currently on air, an unfathomably low 7th. Discovery and Enterprise are garbage tier, Voyager is just above them, in the salt mines. Then DS9, OS, Lower Decks, and TNG basically tie for 2nd.
I NEED THAT SHIRT!!!! Sisko is the absolute best captain. Also, capitalism isn’t what they left behind… there’s still a great degree of self ownership and capital development as seen by Sisko’s dad’s kitchen. Fresh veggies despite being able to replicate any food and “customers” instead of visitors. I’m fact, the scrapped show “Star Trek Federation” was literally going to be set 100 years later when the Farengi have become the dominant civilization due to their reforms and free market and the Feds are stagnant and dwindling, so they decide to become more enterprise based and try to rebuild the Federation and find a way to ally with the farengi against other threats. Capitalism is good. It’s liberty. ;)
I love that you point out that capitalism has been overcome. If only the writers of Picard had noticed that about the lore... or, really bothered to learn anything about the lore of Star Trek.
I just want to say thanks for posting this. I've played this game several times but it's nice to have a great rules refresher for when I play again.
Happy to help!
great gamei'm still getting everything for it like the space stations and alter ships for the federation
1:45 got a genuine LOL from me :)
targs of war!!!! omg this video was made for me!
I figured you'd like that :D
TI4 is my favorite game of all time, and I have a few friends that love Star Trek. This might be just the push to make me buy this game...
This is my 2nd Favourite board game of all time, only beaten by Star Wars Rebellion and then TI4 third.
Awesome opening, for a game that deserved it. I love how Ascendency feels like Star Trek, with exploration at its core
Love Sisko's Creole kitchen and ST: Ascendancy, great game! :)
Mr Parker, you ability to make videos is improving with time, honestly I think you are the best how to play content creator.
Is a shame that we are not able to make it work for Fractal Beyond the Void.
Thank you so much! And yeah, sorry that didn't work out. Happy to see that you funded though!
I've been back and forth on getting into this game for a while. Your reviews/gameplays, as always, are amazing and wicked helpful; some of the better content out there. Thank you!!
Also, YES, THANK YOU!! DS9 is my favorite too and I always get flak for it because all my friends are TNG fans.
Thanks! And look, TNG is great, I'd say it probably had the best individual episodes, but DS9 was a better series overall (and had some amazing episodes of its own)
@RTFM 100% TNG is great with awesome episodes, they just weren't always connected with an overarching plot. DS9 was. I enjoy TNG, DS9 is just more entertaining to watch!! plus, we get the Dominion which is my favorite Star Trek faction!!
@@joesolo1836 Same!
1 -- yes, DS9 is one of the best SF series of all time -- there are four, IMNSHO:
...a -- Firefly -- best SF "western" -- fun, not all that serious
...b -- Babylon 5 -- best long-term story arc
...c -- The Expanse -- best truly HARD SF -- no magic techs (warp speed, phasers, or shields). Almost everything applied (for at least the first few seasons) is something we can do or close to do (e.g., no "new physics", just engineering) already.
...d -- DS9 -- best, most complete use of SF Tropes. Time travel, alt history, alt universes, space combat, you name it. They also considerably expanded the usage of the Holodeck beyond what ST used it for, as a "place to play games" -- with DS9, it actually became a place with atmosphere to hang out in. And finally, they considerably explored alternative storytelling methods, as with "Take Me Out To The Holosuite", and "Far Beyond the Stars"
I do ack, the first couple seasons of DS9 were pretty poor (same for STNG, Voyager, and Enterprise) but once they worked out what worked and did not -- which, for DS9 was that they needed the Defiant, Worf, and the Klingon problems to add longer-term tension), it went off on the run. I will also assert that Section 31 was a good addition, though some disagree. And it also "broke" the pure, unrealistic Utopia of ST a little bit, which irks some people, but not me... And finally, I think, in "In The Pale Moonlight" is the best ST episode ever.
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AS TO GETTING THE GAME --
I would say it has the most replayability of any game I've yet played -- and that numbers in the multiple hundreds, my own collection is >150 games, and there are a lot I don't own but have played with others' -- I have played upwards from 80 games of STA, and it's pretty much NEVER repeated at all. It rarely even "rhymes". Each game plays out completely differently, once you involve all the factions as well as the Borg -- do note that I also don't start with the Borg in the game, the 3 borg disks go into the system stack, and the borg cards go into the exploration deck , with a "safe zone" of 2x#p (2x the number of players) in cards and system disks which have no borg and no phenoms. (e.g., for 4p, 8 "safe" non-borg cards and 8 non-borg, non-phenom disks). This leads to another factor of variability to the game, as sometimes the borg come into play early and everyone has to cooperate to keep them at bay, and other times they are a total non-factor. This, plus the way the factions work and the planets come out all factor into making each game like a fingerprint -- unlike any others. We also start with the 8-6-4 "advanced start" token -- that is, you have 8r, 6s, 4c tokens.
I also would recommend, if you're on FB, to find the Star Trek Ascendancy forum/group. They have a lot of fan factions noted there which have been fully playtested.
So glad you made a video for this game
Happy to!
I appreciate your almost 100% correct ranking.
Haha, where'd I miss for you?
Thank you so very much for this starters guide.
Top notch how to play as always, Shea.
Wow, I haven’t seen any Klingon subtitles for this video yet. Nice job!
Thanks! I'm feeling pretty good about that!
Great job buddy! Can't wait to find a copy and give it a go. Orville is great btw, good on you for the shout out. Absolutely hated 1st season of Picard and didn't bother to watch the 2nd but hell, a mate convinced me to give the 3rd season a go and man... It's actually pretty great (obviously not perfect though). It completely ignores the first 2 seasons and feels like a proper sequel to Next Gen.
Well that's good to hear. I'll have to check it out then.
Did a great job at explaining my favorite game. What I love about all of gale force nine games is that they nail the theme of all their games. A lot of people for some reason have a hard time understanding the rules. My favorite faction is the ferengi bc I like to distract my rivals by asking if I can touch their ear lobes plus I love all the rules of acquisition cards.
We also do a house rule if a players home system has been taken over as long as they have a planet with a star base and can produce ships they can still play. We consider this as their government is in exile. We have not played the dominion or breen expansions yet even though their is something similar in those new expansions. We are also considering when we do get around playing those is if bajor is chosen out of available planets the player will have the option to use standard disc or use the worm hole disc ( but like I said we haven't gotten to play that expansion yet).
To list my favorite star trek shows/movies.
Shows 1. Tng (it's what got me into star trek even though ds9 story is better) 2. Ds9 3. Strange new worlds 4. Enterprise 5. Tos 6. Prodigy 7. Lower decks(good to have on in the background)8. Animated series 9. Picard 10. Voyager (they ruined the Borg and Jayneway was terrible everytime they had a chance to get home she screwed it up) 10. Discovery.
Movies 1. Insurrection (bc we get the riker maneuver and I love riker even though it's not really a good move) 2. Voyage home 3. First contact 4. star trek beyond 5. Wrath of Khan. 6. Undiscovered country 7. Generations 8. Search for spok 9. Star trek (09 still a good movie love the cast) 10. Into darkness 11. Nemesis 12. Finale frontier 13. St the motion picture
Just fyi, your house rule isn't even a house rule (unless your purpose was to make it easier to be eliminated). According to the rules, as long as you still have even one ship, you're still in the game.
It means as long as you have the ability to make ships which means an opponent can't control any star bases either so it actually prolongs the game bc you could control both opponents home systems and if they have control of a starbase they can still play bc they can still produce ships
@@michaelhannell4083 Ah, I see. So you need almost total obliteration to win through Supremacy. Would you say that makes winning through Ascendancy easier if Supremacy is harder?
@@RTFM as long as you don't wipe out a plant if you invade and destroy nodes. it is easier for a ascendancy victory with that house rule bc if you are able to keep culture nodes intact. If they get destroyed the other factions fight to get there home system back.
Thank you for making this video. The rule book is horrendously confusing.
Yeah, it's not the best. And the Borg rulebook is even worse. Happy to help clear things up!
I got that galaxy quest reference lol. +1 for DS9 crew, see you at quarks ;)
I had to :D
25:02 deep space nein as your best … broke my heart champ 😢. You really going to do Picard and Janeway like that.
Picard is a better captain than Sisko, but yeah, DS9 is a better show. TNG is a close 2nd though. And hey, I love Voyager, but I've rewatched that show and it is just not as good.
One subtle aspect of the research gained from phenomena is that, if it is an initial find, THEN you can place the research on an existing tech. ALL subsequent research goes into your pool, and can't be placed on your techs until the start of your next turn (build phase). You can only put it onto a tech IF And Only If you just found it. If you find it, fail, and someone else links in -- even if it's the same round -- and succeeds, they still can't put the research onto their tech.
Actually, if I, the feds, attack the rommies, then I, the feds, MUST take back my TA, but the rommies do NOT have to do so, though that is often by far the most rational of options. There are some strange exceptions to that, however, where it can be relevant. Most of them involve the Ferengi.
Also, to get the "free fleet assembly", you must build at least 3 new ships at that location, and can add any other ships, new or existing, to said fleet.
@@nickbrutanna9973 Hey, thanks for the spot! I've added a subtitle about the fleet creation thing, though I do mention the 3+ rule when I talk about building. However I can't find anything in the rulebook about the Romulans not having to give back Trade Agreements after a betrayal. Do you know where that is so I can verify?
Also, on p. 26 in the "More to Learn" section it seems to state that no matter when you successfully brave a phenomenon's hazard, you can place the research on a project. If there's something that contradicts that, please let me know, otherwise I'm going to leave it as is.
My favorite is the beginning of Star Trek II: “In the 23rd Century”
I come for the rules and stay for the component flicking.
Interessting, this game reminds me a lot of INTERVENTION - Reach for the stars. Some ideas in a more simple mechanic you have in this 2016 published game.
3:10
Great video thanks. Also you're wrong about Lower decks 😃
Prodigy is rly good too!
I had some financial issues last year and had to sell off several of my board games, including this one. I got it from my kids as a Christmas gift and it hurt me to have to lose it like that. One day i hope i can get it again, it's one of the more interesting games of it'd kind.
You can find my email in my channel's about section. Send me a message, I might be able to help.
@@RTFM i can't seem to find it 🙈
@@mirandaleaptrott6899 No worries. If you go to www.youtube.com/@RTFM/about and click "view email address" it should show up.
I got a question as i'm preparing a session video and I'm not sure how we always played a specific rule: when a planet (not a phenomenon) got a threat, this threat is active for all the ships stopping in that planet until what? Until the exploration card is revealed? Until there's any npc's structure on the planet? Or always also if you colonize ite? We always played that the treath is active ultil the exploration card is revealed and it remain active if we found a civilization ultil that civilization is in game. What should be the exact rule?
I thought it was strange, but I never found anything that said that worlds that are naturally hazardous become unhazardous under any normal circumstances. So that means to me that even after colonizing it, the world still presents a danger for all who stop there. Makes it good place to drop a starbase though.
@RTFM no ranking of Galaxyquest?
Galaxy Quest is a classic, but because it's more of a spoof of Star Trek and its fandom as opposed to an earnest effort, it didn't feel right to include in the list. Still one of my favorite films though.
Any chance you can do one of these videos for Star Trek Away Missions?
I actually let my Patreon backers choose which games I teach, so if they ask for it, I'd be happy to.
best game
Can you planetary invasion from an adjacent sector or do you have to be inside the system following a ship battle?
Same question if you have a trade agreement in place.
You have to be in the system to do a planetary invasion, and it's a separate action from the ship battle. If you have a trade agreement, attacking their ships or trying to invade their planet will result in a betrayal, dissolving the agreement. Hope that helps!
@@RTFM So it sounds like you need to clear out all enemy ships before planetary invasion is even on the table.
@@jhon1406 That's correct
Great video and yes DS9 is the best trek. Got a like just for that 🤣.
Haha, appreciate it!
Of course it is. It "borrowed" heavily from Babylon 5.😉
DS9 is the best. Although, for me, I’d put enterprise at #3 or even #2.
A bold stance! It definitely had good moments, but I can't say I'd rather watch it than any of the others. To each their own though. Glad you like it!
I wonder if you change your Trek order after Picard S3? :)
Season three was pretty good, but I've also been enjoying Lower Decks more the more I watch it. If anything Discovery might be dropping a step, but other than that it's pretty much the same.
i think enterprise could have gotten so much out of it if it didn't get cancelled.
Yes, enterprise deserved another season. It get's way too much hate.
The only real reason to use Impulse that I can see is to blockade a system with few space lanes from an aggressor. Are there any other reasons, because warp just seems better...
You will be using warp the majority of the time. With the exception of the Federation's impulse improvement, warp is almost always more efficient. Impulse is more often used after combat in my experience. That and blockades, like you mentioned.
As the federation you find a pre warp civ.. and conquer it?
That's actually something that the Federation specifically can't do. The Prime Directive is baked into their gameplay.
@@RTFM so how do they expand?
@@wastelanddv8062 Through cultural hegemony, which they can do to the warp-capable civs, and colonizing uninhabited worlds.
@@RTFM seems like it puts the Feds at a disadvantage.
@@wastelanddv8062 Well, all of the factions have a positive and negative trait. It should all balance out.
ENTERPRISE LAST!!! FOR SHAME!!! And Picard Season 3 (which is a different show it seems from Seasons 1-2) rockets up much higher I hope!
I calls em like I sees em. And yeah, Picard season 3 has been much better than the first two. Might push it up a bit, but since I'm judging the whole of the series, it's not gonna raise it more than one spot.
ITS COMING TO KICKSTARTER AND NEW RACE!!!!
Post- capitalism is incorrect post-scarcity is a more accurate term the Federation has a access based economy because of their near-infinite resources and their government still has to engage in capitalism in the larger galactic trade economy. and their citizens still have the concept of ownership and self interest outside of service to the state.
The Federation is still classically liberal, or libertarian, but still pretty state heavy.
Certainly better than the Cardassians, or dominion. Haha
thats a freaking wild ranking - "i like the characters of discovery" - totally undermines any credibility this review had!
When did I claim to have credibility?
To me their business model is too much oriented on money. There are no limited tokens principally, but in reality one can run out. Normally a game would solve it by adding general tokens form cartboard but here one has to buy additional plastic once. For a lot of money. I which somebody told me that before purchase.
New RTFM…ENGAGE
This isn't the player made rules? 😢
Nope, it's the designer made rules.
This game has got to be one of my biggest dissapointments. When I read the rulebook it all sounded awesome on paper but just didnt click with me in practice. My main problem is there is too much randomess involved.
I know a lot of people who liked it but I didnt.
I think you might have made this list before Picard season 3. (1 and 2 were just awful 😞)
I did, but one good season doesn't redeem an entire show for me.
@@RTFMfair enough. I watched one or two eps of S2, and decided to ignore the rest of that, but for me S3 is a standalone thing
I will absolutely @ you for ranking OS 5th (unforgivable) and Lower Decks, objectively the third best Star Trek show and the best Star Trek show currently on air, an unfathomably low 7th.
Discovery and Enterprise are garbage tier, Voyager is just above them, in the salt mines. Then DS9, OS, Lower Decks, and TNG basically tie for 2nd.
I NEED THAT SHIRT!!!! Sisko is the absolute best captain.
Also, capitalism isn’t what they left behind… there’s still a great degree of self ownership and capital development as seen by Sisko’s dad’s kitchen. Fresh veggies despite being able to replicate any food and “customers” instead of visitors.
I’m fact, the scrapped show “Star Trek Federation” was literally going to be set 100 years later when the Farengi have become the dominant civilization due to their reforms and free market and the Feds are stagnant and dwindling, so they decide to become more enterprise based and try to rebuild the Federation and find a way to ally with the farengi against other threats.
Capitalism is good. It’s liberty. ;)
Discovery is 6th???? Why are you trying to make me unsubscribe sir?
I haven't got round to it yet but it seems many people dislike discovery.