As a black man, I get where Bay is coming from (I don’t let anyone say the n word and check them when they do so) but I feel in the context of this situation, she blew this way out of proportion!
yeah pretty stupid lol. Bayleigh is so immature. That was Kaitlyn level crazy almost. JC was probably thinking "thank god I'm gay and don't have a girlfriend like this" the whole time Bayleigh was speaking lmao
I completely understand where Bailey was coming from and agree with her points relating to JC and the topic, except for her hypocrisy in the situation. In the same moment that she is trying to explain to JC that it is wrong to say the word regardless of the context, she keeps on using these other deragatory terms and then justifying it through the context and saying that she is just quoting him. She should know that quoting someone is not justification. If a black person uses the N word, it obviously does not give a person of another race an allowance to quote them. The same goes for the M and F word. Bayleigh has no right to use these words. I also can't support the "question vs statement" argument. Bayleigh was asking about how derogatory the term was, so she KNEW it was somewhat derogatory or at least could be. As someone who knows that deragatory language often should not be used regardless of context, she should have known to abbreviate it to the M word just in case. Furthermore, she sure as heck knew that the F word is deragatory and she should 100% know not to say that word regardless of context. Both of them were using the words in an intellectual and educational context and both of them have room to grow in knowing when and if at all these words should be uttered.
the way people interact always has to do with the game. this is a social experiment as well as a game. the social part of it was very interesting to a lot of viewers back in the day and i'm glad we got a throwback segment. .
can someone explain what that was to me? My cable was out for almost all of that segment i really only saw them talking in that one room and i was really confused
Eric Varacky balieigh said the word “m*dget” talking to JC, JC explained that it was offensive by saying it was like black people and the word “n*gger” so then Baliegh got mad that he said that word so they had a big argument about if it’s okay to use those words and what not
The conversation had a lot to do with the game. Building relationships is apart of the game. This is why we have live feeds to see how the house guests interact.
Kaitlyn better not go anywhere!! I don’t care if production has to rig it from here to Sunday, we cannot lose that beautiful train wreck!! She’s single handedly making this the best season in years so yea, I refuse to even entertain her leaving 🙈🙉🙊
Baleigh USED THE M-WORD IN THE SAME FASHION THAN JC DID AFTER SHE ASKED HER INITIAL QUESTION. THIS IS SO BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION. PLUS, HE DID APOLOGIZE.
I got in an argument last night with my mother because she LOVED Sam’s nominees and agreed completely with her mindset. And, I tried to explain that tearing women down is not female empowerment and she didn’t agree. She said Hailey and Kaitlyn were being sluts, and that they were being unfair to the boys... even though they weren’t even doing anything with them! Just flirting. (For the record, it’d be okay if they DID do something). And when I pointed out that Tyler and Fessi are using the same gameplay she brushed it off. Honestly, some women are so against themselves.
It's kind of frustrating because I was raised with the same mindset, but broke out of it due to education on the internet. And, my mom is constantly degrading me for 'letting my morals change based on the things I see online'. Yet she believes every Facebook news article she sees.
Bayleigh should have said "m-word", JC should have said "n-word", & they both should have said "f-word". Their conversation was mind-numbingly dumb & I really wish I had those 10 minutes back.
"Maybe we don't like the people she's playing the game with" We? I vastly prefer Level 6. This is one of the most impressive early game alliances in BB history. Just because Twitter prefers BB to look more like Real Housewives doesn't change that. The fact they were able to even find out about Sam's power and use it to their advantage shouldn't be looked down upon, it should be praised. Furthermore, Tyler's ability to soothe any of L6's worries about him having some level of safety with the other side should also be praised. He plays his annoyance with Kaitlyn off perfectly.
nahhh I like people from both sides and hate people from both sides and forget angela and haleigh exist most of the time. level 6 is messy but they've had control of things for a while so they have yet to crack. flopte is messy but once they lose enough numbers the stragglers actually have a good chance of breaking up level 6. they already took out one of level 6's numbers and with jc and sam liking people outside of level 6 it could all flip especially in a double.
Swaggy said the N word a hundred times in front of Bayleigh and she never once asked him to not say it because its so highly offensive to her ears. Sorry, but she was clearly baiting JC to say it again just to get him kicked out...all while she continued to say the M word to him even after he said it was derogatory.
Uhm Swaggy is black as is Bayleigh, and yes not all Black people condone the use of the word with eachother but a lot do, so it's their prerogative if they want to use it between them in their context. Did I think that Bayleigh's response was perfect, no it wasn't, she needed to articulate her point clearly and concisely and not stoop to use other derogatory words.
Dummy I know who's "allowed to say it". But judging by Bay's long-winded explanation that the N word is derogatory to her and a trigger to her oh so sensitive ears.....she did not even once politely ask Swaggy to refrain from saying it in front of her. Yall go watch the whole thing again. Its clear that she was baiting JC into saying it again to get him into trouble and he didnt take the bait...all while she continued to say the M word to him again and overact that she was the only one being offended. Furthermore, JC apologized to her numerous times and she did not even once say sorry back to him even though they were both mutually at fault. It was calculated....she knew exactly what she was doing.
Serious question. Why is it okay for black people to use the N word, but not anyone else? I thought black people/rappers started using the N word to take away the meaning from it and show that it no longer has any affect on them... But, when anyone else says it, blacks get offended, so it clearly still affects people. I have black friends that call me the N word all the time, as if it's like saying "yo" or "bro". The N word is in almost every song nowadays... Its thrown around so much in our society BY BLACK PEOPLE, and you expect other people not to say it or sing it even if they're not saying it in a malicious way? If black people don't want people to say it, lead by example and don't say it either.
Long Cross 48 Trust-he knew exactly how offensive it was, he was trying to teach her a lesson by saying the entire word after she said the derogatory M word because he really wanted to drive the point home, like “you said that word so I’ll say this word...” tit for tat while also making a point. He made a valid comparison but he just had to throw in his little passive aggressive bullshit in there (which is nothing new for him) Remember, he’s been living in America a long time, he knows the history around that word and how taboo it is to say here, he’s no dummy.
He 1000% knew what he was doing He called Winston white trash and says his gaydar goes off on him pretty much just trying to get a reaction and then play stupid. He thinks he can get away with saying whatever he wants because he's small gay and from another country.
lol what an idiotic comment Whitney. Living in America in the 2000's encourages people to use the n word. You have white dudes calling each other the n-word for sport now. Do you live under a rock? JC was comfortable and around friends so he let his censor down. That's it. He wasn't trying to piss anyone off. He fully built his context for the use of the word. Any mature person would not have been offended. If anything, it should show Bayleigh how offensive the m-word is to JC by virtue of how she acted over hearing the n-word.
Andrew Persaud You’re denying the obvious truth-this dude has a mean streak. He’d already made his point by comparing the M word to gays and the F word and Baileigh said she understood and was ready to move on and change the subject but for some reason he felt like he needed to make one more comparison (with the N word) after she was ready to drop the subject and told him she totally understood. Why did he need to make a second comparison?? 🤔 It was a total passive aggressive dig toward her. She got it after the F word comparison, there was no need for him to keep going, but he wanted to get his dig in...If it was someone else I might give them a pass, but not this guy. If you watch this guy on After Dark (or the feeds) and you don’t see that he has this super slimy, shady side to him that goes way past game play then you really need help when it comes to reading people.
Whitney Angelie I do not want to argue or anything. I just want to say that when JC made the first comparison Bayleigh said "oh so it's just another name for it" and ask you how does that show understanding on her part?
Your explanations regarding how JC should have addressed this whole thing and stating that he purposely used the N word to hurt Bailey is BS. Neither of them was trying to hurt the other, just trying to explain how those words can be hurtful to their communities. If anything, Bailey overreacted and seemed a bit callous toward the M word.
The craziest thing about Sam’s nomination speech, that I think we might have forgotten. Is that, even though Kaitlyn has done some pretty crazy things with the guys, Sam doesn’t know that. So it really makes you think where did this all come from. I mean, we all know about the things said under the covers, and the writing on the arm, but Sam does it.
I love that Brett was willing to call out Rockstar. So much hate for Sam (for good reason) but we have totally been neglecting Rockstars poor gameplay and behaviour.
Yep, she is perhaps the worst player this season, and that is saying a lot. She from the very start wouldn't talk to more than half the house(why would a fan of the show think this would be a rational strategy?), and this whole thing where she is using ad hominem attacks to try and counter completely legitimate gameplay(a lie to cover up hinky vote(s)) is embarrassing. Josh was actually pretty smart when he did pots/pans, he never did personal attacks, and this seems to be Bretts tactic to her personal attacks on him, he never hits back, and the irony isn't lost on anyone when she claims that he is the bully. Part of her problem is, she lives in an insane progressive bubble where it is considered ok to attack, or be prejudice based on a particular race/sex(because..... you know they deserve it *eyeroll*), we seen the same thing with Johnny Mulder on BBCan 6, where he said on many occasions that he would never vote for a straight white male to win. Because they live in an echo chamber, they think they are in the right when they refuse to judge an individual as a individual, and instead label all white man as bad people, or undeserving of anything they have accomplished in life.
And I think rockstar just had her breaking point. I think she was already missing her family since it was her daughters birthday, and the Brett situation just blew the gate wide open
Maybe it offered some, but nothing that was in the show was untrue. The extra stuff that was feeds only, was just ridiculous, but you can't blatantly manipulate people and then carry the female integrity flag at the same time.
sam has shown her sexist views before this when tyler ran to rachel and kissed her on her birthday sam was mad at rachel the entire night feeling that rachel was a hussy for letting tyler kiss her and that sam would never do something like that she was pissed the entire night
you guys are being way too unfair to bayleigh. imo they were both in the wrong in their own ways, however lets be real. jc knows the n word is a word non black people should NOT say (your not going to tell me a 20something year old doesnt) whereas bayleigh was simply asking if m*dget was an offensive term. also lord those people saying jc did nothing wrong are on their own planet out to lunch
As a black man, I get where Bay is coming from (I don’t let anyone say the n word and check them when they do so) but I feel in the context of this situation, she blew this way out of proportion!
Yeah I agree. It seemed like jc wasn't trying to offend anyone, I think he might have said the n word because he didn't know how offensive it is.
yeah pretty stupid lol. Bayleigh is so immature. That was Kaitlyn level crazy almost. JC was probably thinking "thank god I'm gay and don't have a girlfriend like this" the whole time Bayleigh was speaking lmao
ITA. All JC was doing was answering her question with examples. He had no ill intent.
Soph x the fact that you spelled the “F” word and didn’t spell the “n” word makes me think you subconsciously think the latter word is way way worse
I completely understand where Bailey was coming from and agree with her points relating to JC and the topic, except for her hypocrisy in the situation.
In the same moment that she is trying to explain to JC that it is wrong to say the word regardless of the context, she keeps on using these other deragatory terms and then justifying it through the context and saying that she is just quoting him. She should know that quoting someone is not justification. If a black person uses the N word, it obviously does not give a person of another race an allowance to quote them. The same goes for the M and F word. Bayleigh has no right to use these words.
I also can't support the "question vs statement" argument. Bayleigh was asking about how derogatory the term was, so she KNEW it was somewhat derogatory or at least could be. As someone who knows that deragatory language often should not be used regardless of context, she should have known to abbreviate it to the M word just in case. Furthermore, she sure as heck knew that the F word is deragatory and she should 100% know not to say that word regardless of context. Both of them were using the words in an intellectual and educational context and both of them have room to grow in knowing when and if at all these words should be uttered.
That entire segment with Baleigh and JC was just really annoying as it took up half the episode and had nothing to do with the actual game
the way people interact always has to do with the game. this is a social experiment as well as a game. the social part of it was very interesting to a lot of viewers back in the day and i'm glad we got a throwback segment. .
talking about nonsensical comments... maybe look at your own incoherent one before you hit REPLY.
can someone explain what that was to me? My cable was out for almost all of that segment i really only saw them talking in that one room and i was really confused
Eric Varacky balieigh said the word “m*dget” talking to JC, JC explained that it was offensive by saying it was like black people and the word “n*gger” so then Baliegh got mad that he said that word so they had a big argument about if it’s okay to use those words and what not
The conversation had a lot to do with the game. Building relationships is apart of the game. This is why we have live feeds to see how the house guests interact.
Kaitlyn better not go anywhere!! I don’t care if production has to rig it from here to Sunday, we cannot lose that beautiful train wreck!! She’s single handedly making this the best season in years so yea, I refuse to even entertain her leaving 🙈🙉🙊
Baleigh USED THE M-WORD IN THE SAME FASHION THAN JC DID AFTER SHE ASKED HER INITIAL QUESTION. THIS IS SO BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION. PLUS, HE DID APOLOGIZE.
I got in an argument last night with my mother because she LOVED Sam’s nominees and agreed completely with her mindset. And, I tried to explain that tearing women down is not female empowerment and she didn’t agree. She said Hailey and Kaitlyn were being sluts, and that they were being unfair to the boys... even though they weren’t even doing anything with them! Just flirting. (For the record, it’d be okay if they DID do something). And when I pointed out that Tyler and Fessi are using the same gameplay she brushed it off. Honestly, some women are so against themselves.
That's really sad to me. It's women who grew up in this mindset of slut shaming, who let the boys "by boys." It's so sad.
It's kind of frustrating because I was raised with the same mindset, but broke out of it due to education on the internet. And, my mom is constantly degrading me for 'letting my morals change based on the things I see online'. Yet she believes every Facebook news article she sees.
Bayleigh should have said "m-word", JC should have said "n-word", & they both should have said "f-word". Their conversation was mind-numbingly dumb & I really wish I had those 10 minutes back.
"Maybe we don't like the people she's playing the game with"
We? I vastly prefer Level 6. This is one of the most impressive early game alliances in BB history. Just because Twitter prefers BB to look more like Real Housewives doesn't change that.
The fact they were able to even find out about Sam's power and use it to their advantage shouldn't be looked down upon, it should be praised. Furthermore, Tyler's ability to soothe any of L6's worries about him having some level of safety with the other side should also be praised. He plays his annoyance with Kaitlyn off perfectly.
Chris Cerullo We just don’t like them because that side has all the boring people with little screen time except for Brett and Tyler
Just because Twitter prefers BB to look more like Real Housewives - dog whistle much?
omg....we dont like them because we dont like them its that simple lmao. your superiority complex is jumping through the screen
I always lurk on reddit and see what people have to say about BB20. makes me feel real alone being a person who doesn't like level 6.
nahhh I like people from both sides and hate people from both sides and forget angela and haleigh exist most of the time. level 6 is messy but they've had control of things for a while so they have yet to crack. flopte is messy but once they lose enough numbers the stragglers actually have a good chance of breaking up level 6. they already took out one of level 6's numbers and with jc and sam liking people outside of level 6 it could all flip especially in a double.
Just watched the Staircase on Netflix over the weekend. Brent sure knows how to control a room. Hilarious.
It's amazing how well Level 6 stays together, but other than Tyler, NONE of them can pull out a win.
Swaggy said the N word a hundred times in front of Bayleigh and she never once asked him to not say it because its so highly offensive to her ears. Sorry, but she was clearly baiting JC to say it again just to get him kicked out...all while she continued to say the M word to him even after he said it was derogatory.
Uhm Swaggy is black as is Bayleigh, and yes not all Black people condone the use of the word with eachother but a lot do, so it's their prerogative if they want to use it between them in their context. Did I think that Bayleigh's response was perfect, no it wasn't, she needed to articulate her point clearly and concisely and not stoop to use other derogatory words.
Dummy I know who's "allowed to say it". But judging by Bay's long-winded explanation that the N word is derogatory to her and a trigger to her oh so sensitive ears.....she did not even once politely ask Swaggy to refrain from saying it in front of her. Yall go watch the whole thing again. Its clear that she was baiting JC into saying it again to get him into trouble and he didnt take the bait...all while she continued to say the M word to him again and overact that she was the only one being offended. Furthermore, JC apologized to her numerous times and she did not even once say sorry back to him even though they were both mutually at fault. It was calculated....she knew exactly what she was doing.
Serious question. Why is it okay for black people to use the N word, but not anyone else? I thought black people/rappers started using the N word to take away the meaning from it and show that it no longer has any affect on them... But, when anyone else says it, blacks get offended, so it clearly still affects people. I have black friends that call me the N word all the time, as if it's like saying "yo" or "bro". The N word is in almost every song nowadays... Its thrown around so much in our society BY BLACK PEOPLE, and you expect other people not to say it or sing it even if they're not saying it in a malicious way? If black people don't want people to say it, lead by example and don't say it either.
If black people do not want the N-word to be used then how about they lead by example & quit using it themselves?
I'm confused by, how Big Brother saw fit to show JC and Bayleigh's controversial conversation. But not Rachel and Angela's racist comments...🤔
THANK YOU!!!! Was thinking the same thing.
havok6280, but it's ok to make Bayleigh "look" bad. B/c that's what I think BB was trying to do.
I dont watch live feeds, what were Rachel and Angela's comments?
And Kaitlyn!
Astin Martin Rachel didn't say anything racist, it was Angela who said the racially insensitive remarks, get your facts right.
I don't think jc wanted to offend anyone. I don't think he knew how offensive it really was.
Long Cross 48 Trust-he knew exactly how offensive it was, he was trying to teach her a lesson by saying the entire word after she said the derogatory M word because he really wanted to drive the point home, like “you said that word so I’ll say this word...” tit for tat while also making a point. He made a valid comparison but he just had to throw in his little passive aggressive bullshit in there (which is nothing new for him) Remember, he’s been living in America a long time, he knows the history around that word and how taboo it is to say here, he’s no dummy.
He 1000% knew what he was doing
He called Winston white trash and says his gaydar goes off on him pretty much just trying to get a reaction and then play stupid. He thinks he can get away with saying whatever he wants because he's small gay and from another country.
lol what an idiotic comment Whitney. Living in America in the 2000's encourages people to use the n word. You have white dudes calling each other the n-word for sport now. Do you live under a rock? JC was comfortable and around friends so he let his censor down. That's it. He wasn't trying to piss anyone off. He fully built his context for the use of the word. Any mature person would not have been offended. If anything, it should show Bayleigh how offensive the m-word is to JC by virtue of how she acted over hearing the n-word.
Andrew Persaud You’re denying the obvious truth-this dude has a mean streak. He’d already made his point by comparing the M word to gays and the F word and Baileigh said she understood and was ready to move on and change the subject but for some reason he felt like he needed to make one more comparison (with the N word) after she was ready to drop the subject and told him she totally understood. Why did he need to make a second comparison?? 🤔 It was a total passive aggressive dig toward her. She got it after the F word comparison, there was no need for him to keep going, but he wanted to get his dig in...If it was someone else I might give them a pass, but not this guy. If you watch this guy on After Dark (or the feeds) and you don’t see that he has this super slimy, shady side to him that goes way past game play then you really need help when it comes to reading people.
Whitney Angelie I do not want to argue or anything. I just want to say that when JC made the first comparison Bayleigh said "oh so it's just another name for it" and ask you how does that show understanding on her part?
Your explanations regarding how JC should have addressed this whole thing and stating that he purposely used the N word to hurt Bailey is BS. Neither of them was trying to hurt the other, just trying to explain how those words can be hurtful to their communities. If anything, Bailey overreacted and seemed a bit callous toward the M word.
Hate Sam. very misogynistic.
I thought Jackie was supposed to be on what happened! No shade, love y’all, just wondering what happened to Jackie
Really wish Brent wouldn't plug his social media so often
The time is coming for Steve to come back.
The craziest thing about Sam’s nomination speech, that I think we might have forgotten. Is that, even though Kaitlyn has done some pretty crazy things with the guys, Sam doesn’t know that. So it really makes you think where did this all come from. I mean, we all know about the things said under the covers, and the writing on the arm, but Sam does it.
I love that Brett was willing to call out Rockstar. So much hate for Sam (for good reason) but we have totally been neglecting Rockstars poor gameplay and behaviour.
Yep, she is perhaps the worst player this season, and that is saying a lot. She from the very start wouldn't talk to more than half the house(why would a fan of the show think this would be a rational strategy?), and this whole thing where she is using ad hominem attacks to try and counter completely legitimate gameplay(a lie to cover up hinky vote(s)) is embarrassing.
Josh was actually pretty smart when he did pots/pans, he never did personal attacks, and this seems to be Bretts tactic to her personal attacks on him, he never hits back, and the irony isn't lost on anyone when she claims that he is the bully. Part of her problem is, she lives in an insane progressive bubble where it is considered ok to attack, or be prejudice based on a particular race/sex(because..... you know they deserve it *eyeroll*), we seen the same thing with Johnny Mulder on BBCan 6, where he said on many occasions that he would never vote for a straight white male to win. Because they live in an echo chamber, they think they are in the right when they refuse to judge an individual as a individual, and instead label all white man as bad people, or undeserving of anything they have accomplished in life.
Where's Jackie? : c (
And I think rockstar just had her breaking point. I think she was already missing her family since it was her daughters birthday, and the Brett situation just blew the gate wide open
What is the twitch channel?
I’d like to hear what Leanna thinks of what Sam said. I’m offended by it. Maybe you guys just aren’t seeing it as offensive as it is.
Connie Amaya Leanna talked about it on the Saturday morning feed update with Taran
So fun
Fessy Snuffulupagus
Maybe it offered some, but nothing that was in the show was untrue. The extra stuff that was feeds only, was just ridiculous, but you can't blatantly manipulate people and then carry the female integrity flag at the same time.
She spoke about it on Saturday. She went off...loved it.
i watch bb for the game, don't want anyone getting ahead because they're crazy
Brent is just as preachy and intolerant to other opinions as Sam.
12354rony as much as I disagree with her you could use the same defense on Sam.
sam has shown her sexist views before this when tyler ran to rachel and kissed her on her birthday sam was mad at rachel the entire night feeling that rachel was a hussy for letting tyler kiss her and that sam would never do something like that she was pissed the entire night
brent is the worst
Does Tyler have a crush on Bayleigh?
you guys are being way too unfair to bayleigh. imo they were both in the wrong in their own ways, however lets be real. jc knows the n word is a word non black people should NOT say (your not going to tell me a 20something year old doesnt) whereas bayleigh was simply asking if m*dget was an offensive term. also lord those people saying jc did nothing wrong are on their own planet out to lunch
oh wait disclaimer: by you guys im referring to the audience not rob brent and taran
Im African American. Black people should not use the word either.
I did not know midget was considered a derogatory term.
JC did nothing wrong
Toxic feminist try to womanplain it.
Brent is right ( Taran is just a gifted pleasure) and Brent is right
Sam's a MAGAt
Brett reminds me of the kind of guy I'd really hate in real life.