@@BONHAMOLOGY Yes- D: that 18" 2002 MEDIUM in your latest video-which black label reissue is it? The modern all silkscreen version, or an original ink pad stamp type they made some of ? (it'll have SWISS MADE in modern inking however on the underside of it)
@@bonzoleum Terry! I'll take a picture of it and shoot over to you on Facebook. It is a Black Label re-issue, but I haven't taken a close enough look (or have the knowledge to know) which one it is between the two. I'll send that over shortly! And if you can let me know, I'll update the comment you left my video so others will know...
Interesting that you didn’t try to match the pitch of each lug, rather you did it by feel and overall pitch. Just goes to show we can over analyse the whole tuning spiel.
Is that fridge built into the wall or am I seeing shite? Dude everytime Terry tries to find the pitch of the snare LMAO! I grabbed my snare I'm following along cheers!
There are a lot of great tuners out there but George just has that one in a million special sensitive hearing that tells him the exact millisecond to stop turning the key. PS both drums sound just amazing.
Why was I waiting for Terry to trip when he was bringing your snare over? I don't think the new Supraphonics will ever sound like the old ones because hexvalent chrome is no longer allowed, only trivalent. That's three less valents....lol.
i reluctantly had to sell my black galaxy snare last week to get mortgage paid,yours sounds just like the way i like to tune mine,but im getting a blue vistalite set from 1986,just as soon as uncle sam gives me back the money they stole,lol,
George u have no idea how helpful you've been (terry too)! I recently discovered you guys & so glad. Y'all tune ur snare like no other, at least I haven't found em. Ur snare sound is amazing. The sound u got out of Terry's blackrophonic (?) & the other is how I try to tune mine, but that tone is so nice. Just hope I'm getting closer to it myself. I recently been into interval tuning & working with a Tunebot. It does help I guess but I usually get a good sound without, pretty nteresting tho. Do u know how many hz's u tune that top head to? Thanks
George...I HAVE A 75 SUPRA...I just bought the repalcement muffler and installed it trying to get that seet spot ....the pitches are different in many songs .Did you tune yours to a certain song you have that pop that I can't get .I'm going to detune mine and start over. I notice that some of your videos the drums ound more resonating and some sound more poppy and the toms and kick sound shorted too.Are you sending the sound through a board and if so how do you have it set?.I'm just starting to video myself and I need some help...Thank Bonham Brothers!
I thought the black drum sounded best before you changed it, but the chrome Supra still sounded better. Drier yet somehow livelier. I know that probably doesn’t make any sense but, that’s what my ears are hearing. Not too much ring, yet lively - the chrome Supra.
Loved this one, dudes. It Answered a question I’ve had in my head, Does the coated/painted shell loose a little resonance? I’ve yet to own a Supra and need as much info before I actually buy one. Definitely want an old one.
Drumfactorydirect - best place for stuff like that, everything from 1.6 to single flange to diecast. Spring for COB hoops if you can swing it, the tone is truly worth it. If you’re building a drum, it’s the place to be.
What would you guys say is your favorite snare drum sound era of Bonham's? My personal favorite is like mid to late 71 like in orlando magic/ the japan shows.
@@BONHAMOLOGYoh yeah i think my favorite studio snare sound (besides When the Levee Brraks) might have to be Black Country Woman, or Moby Dick. Beef city!
@@BONHAMOLOGY Wanton has a really great snare sound. My favourite though is Dancing Days. Houses of the Holy ( the track ) has similar tuning. Open tuning. Medium tension and so resonant. I prefer Bonzo's wider snare tunings. Over The Hills also has that fat openess about it. He did dampen his snare lots in the studio, especially on Zep 3.
Instead of trying to hum the pitch of the head to see where it’s at, wouldn’t it make more sense to have a pitch-pipe handy and match the pitch to quantify it definitively? Then you know for sure for easy replication.
Ha! Yes, but we were kinda free wheeling and didn't plan this out. I have a piano upstairs. I didn't own a pitch pipe since high school when I played Tympani in orchestra.
At 21:38 i was thinking push down at the center of the head as your detuning thats what I do and then you did it. And you said thats what I do. I dont tune in a star pattern, I go by feel. I tune from the left to right sometimes skipping a lug as i go around the drum. So I get what your saying.
I'm hoping to get my 6,5 x 14 Tama Trackmaster (don't hate me) at least in the same realm. Is that Emperor batter and Ambassador Snare Reso? Thanks for the video anyway, great stuff! Btw, the Acro probably got lower because it "gave", whereas the other one had tighter lugs so it didn't have time to do that as quickly.
Thanks for sharing the art of tuning the snare drum!!! Uguys work together is very cool,!!! Two thumbs up!!! Enjoy!!! I can't wait until uguys play'em in a video🥁
i have a problem getting my snare wires to give the same sound as yours, i have 42 strand gretsch wires, and the same size drum but its a yamaha, idk how i can make my snares not as dry as they are, if you give some tips that'd be great!
Did you two snort a duffle bag full of coke right before you turned the camera on?
Lmao
😂
No there just like this, or at least terry lol and bedside's who the fuck would not get hyper over these snares ?
christopher dunn you have a really good point there.
What a question? Of course they.....DID NOT! 🤦
Those both sound spot on. Life goals right there...
Life goal: finally finish a drum tuning video
LOL jk appreciate what you do
@@tbooonetwo-fitty-five7523 Ha, ha! That, too! Definitely that, too!
Hey Derek! We were just talking about you. 😏
@@BONHAMOLOGY Yes- D: that 18" 2002 MEDIUM in your latest video-which black label reissue is it? The modern all silkscreen version, or an original ink pad stamp type they made some of ? (it'll have SWISS MADE in modern inking however on the underside of it)
@@bonzoleum Terry! I'll take a picture of it and shoot over to you on Facebook. It is a Black Label re-issue, but I haven't taken a close enough look (or have the knowledge to know) which one it is between the two. I'll send that over shortly! And if you can let me know, I'll update the comment you left my video so others will know...
I wish I had a friend that I can talk about drums with the way these 2 guys do.
I also wish I knew as much about drums as they do lol.
Right
Keep wishing bub 🙁
Like watching two squirrels chase one nut. I feel like I have no clue how to tune now.
More like two nuts! 😄
It sounds "Fool in the Rainy or In Through the Outdoory"..lol
Interesting that you didn’t try to match the pitch of each lug, rather you did it by feel and overall pitch. Just goes to show we can over analyse the whole tuning spiel.
Is that fridge built into the wall or am I seeing shite? Dude everytime Terry tries to find the pitch of the snare LMAO! I grabbed my snare I'm following along cheers!
Yes, it's built into an opening in the wall. Ha!
There are a lot of great tuners out there but George just has that one in a million special sensitive hearing that tells him the exact millisecond to stop turning the key. PS both drums sound just amazing.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug aint it?
Howdy dude I’m getting a John bonham amber Vistalite drumset with zildjian cymbals
Zildjian! Muck Savage...
SlimebagSheamuS Kelley don’t get zildjian, it messes with Bonham, Paiste is more recommended.
Heavy cymbals are required as your buying the canons
Lol
Paiste is best as they are loud and washy
They sound great and legendary tooooo
It seems like those snares sound great no matter how you tune them , I have a Ludwig brass on brass I got early nineties
They really do, something about aluminum snares just smooths over ANY tone imperfection. I've tried to make these sound bad and it's impossible
Why was I waiting for Terry to trip when he was bringing your snare over? I don't think the new Supraphonics will ever sound like the old ones because hexvalent chrome is no longer allowed, only trivalent. That's three less valents....lol.
You can buy vintage NOS valents on ebay but they are quite pricey and the tone difference isn't worth it...
😂😂
Ahh hexavalient divided by zero equals abracadabra
5 valents vs. 3 valents, that's 2 more.......which would you want?
They both sound excellent
Great video, thanks
dudes, i'm sorry, but they were almost identical to begin with.
I don't think that's the point of the video, it's demonstrating how to tune them
🎱.........
Come to Florida and tune my new classic maple set, ill buy you dinner
Is this a drum that was actually played by John Bonham or is this just one that is the style he played on?
What are the top heads?
i reluctantly had to sell my black galaxy snare last week to get mortgage paid,yours sounds just like the way i like to tune mine,but im getting a blue vistalite set from 1986,just as soon as uncle sam gives me back the money they stole,lol,
very nice! have a 1979 Acrolite 5x14 snare, remo heads etc. Could I get the sound with it??????
This video reminds me of adjusting valves on a pushrod engine! Love it.
George u have no idea how helpful you've been (terry too)! I recently discovered you guys & so glad. Y'all tune ur snare like no other, at least I haven't found em. Ur snare sound is amazing. The sound u got out of Terry's blackrophonic (?) & the other is how I try to tune mine, but that tone is so nice. Just hope I'm getting closer to it myself. I recently been into interval tuning & working with a Tunebot. It does help I guess but I usually get a good sound without, pretty nteresting tho. Do u know how many hz's u tune that top head to? Thanks
Is that a built-in fridge in the background?
George, didn't realize you could be in the same room this long with Terry.
wouldve been interesting to c how ea lug sounds bc i think the way he tuned it some threads were buried more.
If you want to get those divots out of the snare-side head just blast it with a hair dryer or even just heat it up with a lighter.
14:25 I noticed you just aligned all the molecules in the Blackrolite
I love this channel and it’d be awesome to hang with y’all but Terry is too much haha. Seriously did y’all dip into Bonzo powder before this?
George...I HAVE A 75 SUPRA...I just bought the repalcement muffler and installed it trying to get that seet spot ....the pitches are different in many songs .Did you tune yours to a certain song you have that pop that I can't get .I'm going to detune mine and start over. I notice that some of your videos the drums ound more resonating and some sound more poppy and the toms and kick sound shorted too.Are you sending the sound through a board and if so how do you have it set?.I'm just starting to video myself and I need some help...Thank Bonham Brothers!
Holy shit if I had a dollar everytime that dude on the left interrupted the guy explaining the tuning. 😅
I thought the black drum sounded best before you changed it, but the chrome Supra still sounded better. Drier yet somehow livelier. I know that probably doesn’t make any sense but, that’s what my ears are hearing. Not too much ring, yet lively - the chrome Supra.
Herb Tarlek plays drums? Who knew?
I really enjoyed watching that. Thanks guys!
Loved this one, dudes. It Answered a question I’ve had in my head, Does the coated/painted shell loose a little resonance? I’ve yet to own a Supra and need as much info before I actually buy one. Definitely want an old one.
trick is to keys 2 keys for even tuning......
the banana has got to go! insufferable affect dude!
More Robert Hally as opposed to George Hally from Chicago😂😂
Great video on Ludwig snare drums. I just got a accent combo steel snare drum very hard to come by but it sounds great 🥁
Great video George great lesson what up terry
My favorite reality show - love you guys 🥁
Thanks love your chanell
5:05 bottom 7:20 top
I have a premier coa 2000 snare 1960 70s same drum in my opinion but better. Tim
@@timmurphy3493 someone else told me they love that drum. Maybe I'll check one out someday
Hey Guys! where can I get 1.6mm hoops for my 1976 Supra? having trouble finding them , can you give me a lead please? Thanks you!
Drumfactorydirect - best place for stuff like that, everything from 1.6 to single flange to diecast. Spring for COB hoops if you can swing it, the tone is truly worth it. If you’re building a drum, it’s the place to be.
A graphite spray won't gum up on you when it starts to dry out. Better than grease in my opinion. Found at Napa or other auto parts stores
Thanks for the tip!
Napa knows how ?
Terry 😂😂😂😂😂
Love John❤….Love Ludwig❤
Hard to tell them apart by sound. When you play them, you can feel the LM402 is a lighter drum. The BB is heavier & doesn't move as much.
The Supra sounds so much better to me.
great video
Couple of Bonzos
Huge help, thanks
Holy shit... can I paint a wall and watch it dry? At least put some dancing girls in the background! YAWN!!!!
What would you guys say is your favorite snare drum sound era of Bonham's? My personal favorite is like mid to late 71 like in orlando magic/ the japan shows.
I like that era too but I think my fav is 72-73, and the tuning on Wanton song, Trampled Under Foot is 👌🏼
@@BONHAMOLOGYoh yeah i think my favorite studio snare sound (besides When the Levee Brraks) might have to be Black Country Woman, or Moby Dick. Beef city!
Black country woman!!! Recorded outdoors really makes the drums sound fuller
@@BONHAMOLOGY Wanton has a really great snare sound. My favourite though is Dancing Days. Houses of the Holy ( the track ) has similar tuning. Open tuning. Medium tension and so resonant. I prefer Bonzo's wider snare tunings. Over The Hills also has that fat openess about it. He did dampen his snare lots in the studio, especially on Zep 3.
Just clicked on this - 24 minutes ???? Cmon!!!
Nice job. You've just convinced me to get sober. You have to drink ALOT of beer to watch this a shit show!!
I'm digging that blackropohnic!
Me too!
Instead of trying to hum the pitch of the head to see where it’s at, wouldn’t it make more sense to have a pitch-pipe handy and match the pitch to quantify it definitively? Then you know for sure for easy replication.
Ha! Yes, but we were kinda free wheeling and didn't plan this out. I have a piano upstairs. I didn't own a pitch pipe since high school when I played Tympani in orchestra.
BONZOLOGY with Terry & George
Haha, no disrespect meant, just came to mind when watching.
What a great video! Thanks guys.
super nice vid, lovely framing in the end! : ) thanks i'll compare my snare to this now
cheers
It’s always good to see people in this state so you can get an idea how YOU come across after about 4 or 5 double gin & tonics.
Two legends of the 'TH-cam Bonham Scene' Just geeking out.. Amazing
this video would be half as long if that annoying dude on the left wasn't in it
At 21:38 i was thinking push down at the center of the head as your detuning thats what I do and then you did it. And you said thats what I do. I dont tune in a star pattern, I go by feel. I tune from the left to right sometimes skipping a lug as i go around the drum. So I get what your saying.
This guy is always unwatchable.. I wish he could just get to the point.
ambassador on the bottom is wrong.....he used diplomat on the bottom. often. and COB.
Can I hang out with you guys?
Sounds great guys thanks for sharing. Fun seeing you guys talk together as always
Great informations!
I'm hoping to get my 6,5 x 14 Tama Trackmaster (don't hate me) at least in the same realm. Is that Emperor batter and Ambassador Snare Reso?
Thanks for the video anyway, great stuff!
Btw, the Acro probably got lower because it "gave", whereas the other one had tighter lugs so it didn't have time to do that as quickly.
Do you "tune" a drum or do you "tension" a drum?
Most people say tune , out of habit but really it's tensioning, tightening loosening, not "tuning" for a specific note.
Thanks for sharing the art of tuning the snare drum!!! Uguys work together is very cool,!!! Two thumbs up!!! Enjoy!!! I can't wait until uguys play'em in a video🥁
I have 6 Ludwig snares one I’ve already put a 42 strand on and I wanted to know George’s oppinion on brass stands verses the others?
Ohh yaa !!thanks
THANK YOU GEORGE AND TERRY!
Hi George great vid u tune your toms like u do the snare
Yes , basically the same process ...just not as tight.
That’s was fun!
You guys are awesome
Bonham didn't have 42 strand snare wires back then
i have a problem getting my snare wires to give the same sound as yours, i have 42 strand gretsch wires, and the same size drum but its a yamaha, idk how i can make my snares not as dry as they are, if you give some tips that'd be great!
Thank you! This is the first time I got my snare on tune
👍🏻
This is great - I could watch all day
'amazing how you go around like that'....jeeeez.
Thats a Chicago basement....
George, do you have Gretsch 42 strands on your supraphonic?
Are those ambassadors or emperors on those?
Had a bronze hand hammered 5x14 in the 90s. Wish I had kept that drum and my blue label 602 hats..😑
You had blue labeled 602 high hats and you got rid of them ? Are you crazy?
@@BadRonald1 I was a young kid and didnt know any better. Also you could find them easily at that time. Not so much these days.
Great information. Thank You for posting this.
Thanks, really glad it's helpful!
jesus could the guy be more annoying yelling over the dude that's trying to explain what he's doing?
How this became John Bonham's snare?
I've been waiting for this since Bonzology became a thing
These guys are amazing.
Genius!
It's impossible to make any snare sound just like Bonham's. his was so unique
@@SomeDrummer1995 you’re clueless
@@josephcalitri5710lol, George gets awful close tho
Awesome video !
They both sound awesome.
I I was told Bonham used 40 strand wires?
42 strand, but earlier in his career he may have used lower strand wires.
two drummers!
Are these guys using earplugs? Bangin' a rimshot that close to your earholes you should.
6:40 First time I saw an opera singer tunning a drum
Haha!!