ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 พ.ย. 2024
- This is my review of the Palram 8'x12' greenhouse kit that I bought and assembled. The instructions don't give the greatest descriptions of the parts or assembly, but the parts do fit together well. Once assembled it's fairly sturdy.
Going to buy a Palram 8’x16’ I plan on pouring a cement footing around the perimeter to anchor it to, I assume anchoring it to concrete is an option ?
Anchoring to concrete shouldn't be a problem. If you mount it direct to the concrete I'd put some 1/4" foam insulation tape on the bottom to better seal it. You can just use Tapcon screws to fasten it down.
Hi thanks for the video im thinking of ordering one now but its a Augarden brand looks exactly the same its 3 meters by 2 meters . i want to build it in my workshop so i can take my time and have no interruptions with wind and weather and do it properly with sealant and brace it a bit more now my question is do you think this could be picked up by 4 people on each corner to move it say 50 meters, 150 ft with out it falling to pieces? Simple yes or no would be appreciated. Thanks
I'd say 6 people might be better. Look on the product description and see what the shipping weight is, then divide that by 4. If it's around 50 lbs or so, I'd say that would be more comfortable to carry. Good luck.
@@ffjsb Thanks for your response👍Without seeing it, i’ve had some feedback from a few people now and I know you get what you pay for these days so I’ll play it safe I’ve got some form ply laying around which I’m going to screw together and make some “ I” beams and fix it to the bottom just for the lift. . It’s not going to be a further expense as I’m semi retired from concrete these days better to be safe and sorry. Cheers
@@blahhblahh1511 Good luck!
Ours arrives tomorrow and I plan on building a 4X4X12 base like you did. I am going to build a planter box on both sides and will attach them to the base and possibly the vertical wall support, therefore securing the Greenhouse to the inner fortified box. With longer bolts am I going to be able to adjoin the posts of the box to the outer wall support? We'll see, but it does seem like a good idea. These Greenhouses seem awfully flimsy. I thought that I might use some fishing line to invisibly help prevent the panels from flexing/bowing in the wind.
I HIGHLY recommend the aluminum angle across the roof panels, and using clear sealant/caulk along the edges of the roof panels. You don't have to do the entire edge, just kind of a dotted line around the edges. Other than the two panels popping out, I've had zero problems in high winds, with gusts over 50 mph after my "fix". I still need to epoxy a couple of rare earth magnets onto the top of the door for windy days. The magnet on the bottom isn't enough for anything more than a light breeze. I also added a diagonal angle brace on the left door, since It's the one used the most.
The planter box is a great idea, and I may still do something like that one of these days. It would be great if it was about a foot higher, as I'm kinda tall.
@@ffjsb That's exactly what we are now planning on doing. We did our inventory of the kit and I painted the base and built all the flower boxes in preparation for the Big-Build this weekend. We bought Tile Edging Trim to use as brackets to hold the roof panels in place. If there's one thing I am guilty of(?) That's over engineering to prevent the unforeseeable.
Another thing I discovered, make sure to clean out the little gutters, they clog easily, and the plastic clips on the base that hold the clear panels need to have sealant put on them because water leaks in there. Both are minor inconveniences.
who gives a fuck u old dried up hag ... u live solo cause no one can tolerate ur dumb fkn brain
Thanks so much for your response. I put the wood frame together and just picked up the greenhouse. I am confused. I received three large boxes. 1 of 2 and 2 of 2 are Balance 8 x 8 Greenhouse. Then there's a 4 foot extension kit. I had no idea that it took an extension kit to make this a 12 foot greenhouse. I'm looking closely at your base and I see no extension kit seams. What can you tell me about this? Thanks so much.
There should be some plates or pieces that connect the top and bottom side pieces, and the top center piece. They fit together quite nicely, so you probably can't see the seams in the video, but they're there.
I'd look online for a at least a 8x12' piece of sun cloth too, because the greenhouse will get VERY hot on sunny days once the temperatures start coming up in spring. If you plan on using during the summer, you'll need to hold down the heat generated by the sun, even opening up the doors and the vent windows won't be enough to keep it from getting too hot.
Hello and thanks for the video. I am going to be putting mine together this week and I wanted to ask you how long the 4 4x4s were cut to. Thanks in advance.
Right now the foundation is covered in snow so I can't tell you. If you can get two 8' and two 14' 4x4s that should work as you can overlap the 8' ones. When you get your kit, pull out the parts to the base and fit it together to be sure exactly how long they need to be. Mine are about an inch or so wider on the outside. I hope you have a helper, you really should have one if you can, just makes it easier.
Thank you for the review, how is this on snow?
Planning to purchase a greenhouse kit soon. Thank you for the info.
Sir, I just ordered this exact greenhouse. Can you please tell me how you secured it to the 4x4 base? Are there screw holes?
Yes, there's screw holes. I'd use the smaller construction lags with wide heads, or you could use regular lag screws with washers. Use galvanized lags if you use the regular ones. I think the holes would fit 1/4" size, but I can't remember what exact size they were.
I'm also thinking of raising it up by 10-12", by making walls around the edges to allow for a permanent raised bed at the bottom on the sides. This would mean having to step over high threshold though, because that would also raise the doors up too.
Hey. Good review. What latitude are you at? I'm at 49 north.
I have no idea, it's not on the road maps I use....
I'm in the midwest, so we have the chance to get down to 0 degrees in the winter, although it's rare.
hows the water heater work???
It works fairly well, I have the quartz heater close enough that it heats it a bit by radiant heat, and I only use the alcohol burners at night. I'm thinking of having a local machine shop build a bigger reservoir so that I can have it burn for 12 hours, 14 oz. burners are all I can find, which burn for about 7 hours or so. I'd like to make a small tank that would take the screw in wick holders so I'd have 3 or four burners, and a capacity of about half a gallon of fuel. I've lost almost no water over the last year, the cap is just sitting in the bung, not tightened at all to allow for some venting.
@@ffjsb how's the heating aspect work though? Do you have a name or a link to a similar build?
@@ericmiller2582 It's good for supplemental heating, but I wouldn't rely on it for primary heating. It's been a couple of years since I got the idea off of TH-cam somewhere, so I couldn't give you any links.
However if you had electricity close or an outdoor wood heater system you could use a heat exchanger to heat the water, but then there would probably be more efficient ways to heat than this setup. Some videos I've seen have whole banks of drums to collect solar heat during the day, but they're much bigger greenhouses that this one.
I am looking at buying one of these. Would you recommend caulking all the panels?
Probably not, at least not every single seam. I had one partially pop out again even after adding the braces across the middle. Another severe wind storm. Seems that if high wind hits the ends, it creates lift on the end panels of the roof and they want to lift out of the frame. I just added some clear sealant at the top and bottom of the panel, and a couple of 4" lines along the sides. This was a panel that had previously popped out, so the edges had been slightly weakened. If I ever need to take the panel out, I can just use a razor knife to cut the caulk lines.
The only panels that I caulked solid on all four sides were the two vent panels.
@@ffjsb thanks. We live on a ridge at an elevation of 1000 ft, so we can get some pretty good wind here in the mountains of North GA. I had planned on facing the door east. Maybe I should consider a North or South facing so that the wind catched the side instead. I was also going to bolt it to 4X4's and maybe strap it down as well.
@@topcat700 I have had no problems at the base, it's screwed down with construction lags and there's 2' of rebar going into the ground holding the 4x4's. Just be aware that the magnets will not keep the doors open on a windy day, as you can see, there's a bit of the top of the door that's exposed and the wind will catch that, there's only one magnet at the bottom. You don't want these doors slamming shut all the time. They're generally fine when closed and latched properly.
@@ffjsb Thanks a bunch.
How do these hold up threw the winter time with snow on the roof and ice do you half to take roof panels out
Usually the snow slides off OK. If I had a bigger snow, it would be very easy to use a push broom to pull the snow off. Last winter wasn't too bad. I'm working on making it a hot house with supplemental heat from a large compost bin and a drum of heated water, I'll do another video if that comes to fruition.
I bought this GH and yesterday I got two builders to build it and it took them the whole day and still not quite finished yet. So as you said the instruction was not clear and it will be difficult for people who are not DIY experts to do it. Anyway, my question is anchoring the GH to the floor. The GH is for the allotment so I will use the floor space inside to grow things. Therefore I don't want to put wood platform. Thanks.
I did not use a wood platform!! I used treated 4x4's, and they have rebar into the ground anchoring them. I have gravel inside, but you could easily use soil. Just make sure it's elevated a bit for drainage.
@@ffjsb Mine got blowned off the other day while i was sitting inside. It was quite dramatic as it was raining outside so I hid inside the GH minding my own business. Suddenly the whole thing blown off landed in the neighbouring plot lol! We lift if up and put it back in place and there was no damage at all. We had actually bought a enchoring kit from Palram but had not set it up yet when this happened. We enchored it on a temperory basis and it is safe. Will set it up properly when builders are available.
@@helenahung1945 It is IMPERATIVE to anchor it at the START. You're 100% lucky it wasn't completely destroyed.
hows it holding up?
Holding up very well, I do have to make some accommodations for a piece of suncloth I want to put over it because it gets really hot on summer days, but I don't have anything in it right now. Even 70 degree days it get's hot enough to burn plants on the west end, even with the vents and doors open. I'm going to start some fall beans and peas so I need to keep it cooler during the days.
The clear sealant I used to fix the problems with the greenhouse was Lexel brand. I used the smaller tube, (not the caulk gun tube) it was plenty.
Did you anchor bolt your 4X4s to the ground?
I put 2' rebar through the 4x4's, hasn't budged a bit. I think I have 4 on the long sides, and 3 on the ends. The rebar was 1/2".
I have a video on how I heated this greenhouse. It worked out fairly well.
th-cam.com/video/VTE39uFhD8s/w-d-xo.html
I have been building mine for several weeks - worst DIY experience of my life - as you say crap instruction manual - but it is also requires about ten arms + hands all working at once - and even then things just keep popping-out again - I am near to giving up
You need to get a case of beer and a couple of buddies that are really handy...it shouldn't be THAT hard...
@@ffjsb Not sure beer would help - and it'll take more than a couple buddies - it's either me or, as I'm inclined to think, poor design. I mean, I'm not exactly a novice at DIY kits - IKEA, &c - I've even done my own carpentry - but this one is just very poor quality.
@@andrewashdown3541 Other than ONE panel that wasn't trimmed enough, I had NO problems assembling this myself except putting in the top opposite the door. It was a PITA, but I did it by myself. The panel was easily fixed by trimming off an eighth of an inch on one side with a razor knife. I added some extra bracing, but I tend to over engineer things too.
If it's taken you several weeks, I think it's you...
Where did you buy it from and what’s the model number?
Sorry for the delay, I bough mine through Wayfair. They seemed to have the best price, although others may be the same price.
@@ffjsb No Wayfair is much more expensive than B&Q or Homebase here in the UK!
@@helenahung1945 Probably because of shipping overseas. It's cheaper in the US.