@@Omni_WorldDepending on perspective it is either mercy and thanks for his help into making the girl into the new god, or a sad way to go as. But considering he would have lost his mind already, shaping his final moments with the S ending is what I suppose the most the girl could do since he was going to die anyway.
The lore and art of this game are absolutely top tier, so easy to get into the rabbit hole of it all and the monster, Gods, and character illustrations are so enchanting. Really nothing like Fear & Hunger out there. Personally, I like the turn based combat as I grew up playing a lot of turn based RPG and it's nice to see it in a horror context and with strategy once you learn the game :)
The gameplay if paired with a different setting, artstyle and lore would still be as infamous as it is in Funger. Rpgmaker games where the difficulty depends on your knowledge, with dark or just adult themes in gameplay shouldn't be too rare That's not saying Funger is only infamous for the gameplay, I just think the gameplay is also to be commemorated despite its levels of scuffed
Cahara’s S ending is referenced in termina. You can find the sword he wields in his S ending in the museum….its weirdly implied that every S ending is cannon while A and C-2 is also cannon. I usually head cannon that the Raven mauler grabbed the girl and threw her down to the traces so A could happen while all S endings still happen
I think all characters has a purpose: 1.Enki did obviously get enlightened. 2.Ragnavald went on killing monsters as l'egard was already dead. 3.D'arce resurrected l'egarde. 4.Caharra help create the god of fear and hunger.
You’ve got Legard wrong. Darce’s S ending and C2 ending are Cannon. Hes resurrected as a vampire, then ascends. He’s weak to the same things undead are weak to in Termina, and Miro has stated that FAH3 will be about vampires….with Legard returning as a main character.
@@obarasama I only remember him saying that after part 3 Le'Garde will be many people's new favorite character. All I know about Twilight being an inspiration are a few dialogues in Termina though.
I think maybe darce assistant le garde in his ascend to become the yellow king, but she was left behind, not entering the void after le garde reveals his plan to her and nacha, just for nachar to leave her and go conflict with the god of destruction alone. As she was alone, ragnva would find her where she would reveal the plan that le garde had, maybe she go with ragnva,maybe she prefers to die in the dungeon.
Love the video, but at this ending 17:28 id argue it is that L’gard but what truly happens is D’arce actually take this L’gard to become a new god, giving him a fraction of the power he would have if he’s was still originally human,
The main reasons I don't see that to be canonical is D'arce's S ending specifically talks about how the resurrected Le'garde is bloodthirsty and evil, and leaves the dungeons to become a Warlord where D'arce follows by his side as Le'garde unleashes his suffering on the world. This resurrected version of Le'garde also calls himself a God and would have no reason to ascend, much less have a conversation with Nas'hrah about it which the Kaiser references if you meet him as O'saa
@DozleZabi I talk about it in depth in the video, but he isn't inherently violent, quite the opposite as the Yellow King comes from the Void to become the savior of humanity, but due to the God of Fear & Hunger being created, humanity no longer needs him to save them. This causes him to slowly go mad and be called the Yellow King of Madness as he justifies any violent means to get his divine end of saving humanity thus starting the 2nd Great War to get his hands on Prehevil and the Logic Project. August tells us all of this in the second game, and neither him or Nas'hrah talk about him being a ghoul or brought back to life in any way despite knowing all about him and his ascension as a New God
@@Omni_World i love the response because i know there are still holes in my theory and it still leaves a lot for speculation, this game gives a lot of really interesting ways if thing about character writing and the story telling. And you bring up the god of fear and hunger actually brings in another theory i have and started to add more ground too, any time an Ascend god or Old god come in to being, like Allmere or Fear and Hunger there is always another god that forms with them in one way or another. L'gard only enters because he believes he is the savor of the world, and looked to ascend to become a god. It wouldn't be to far to say that even once brought back by D'arce, that she'd help him completely or for the sake of power turn him in to a new god. Honestly this is more my head cannon then anything, thinking enough I'm sure there is away to make all s-ending work (expect Cahara maybe tbh, I do have a theory for this one too its just not solid in anyway)
It's not just Cahara who was not mentioned in FH2. D'arce wasn't mentioned too. We don't really know what happened to her after FH1. It's either she died while taking care of Le'garde in the Green Hue, was killed by Le'garde, or died in the dungeon and she and Cahara brought the Girl to the 10th flr of the dungeon.
So we can make a list of this, and somehow we gotta make sense of the next events: Enki Ankarian, the Dark Priest: S ending, he beace the new Nosramus, probably still alive by Termina timeline and rejected the golden throne. Ragnvaldr, the Outlander: S ending,he became the god of utlra violence alongside moonless and went on to hunt demons, as we see in termina there are few of them in Europe, alongside the vatinca inquisition of vampires and wolves... but he must interact with Legardes dead body, isn't it? Moonless: Ragnavaldr best girl Legarde: became the yellow king, he spent centuries in the green hue as we see that a few minutes could be years or months but time works different there, by the time he came out of there the cruel age had already begun. Girl: someone, either D'arce or Cahara, took her to the gauntlet to her ascension. So we have two endings open for the canonical route: 1) D'arce: she died in the 10th floor, left the dungeon after she found Legarde already left the cell, became a new god or she took legarde to the golden throne and went to look after him and died in the green hue 2) Cahara: he died in the 10th floor, he took legarde to the golden throne and left the dungeon with the crown, became a new god or died in the green hue. Hopefully we could get an item that points at an ending of both characters so we have more clues.
WOW didn't expected a X-Japan song for the bgm from a FnH vid lol. No wonder the acoustic guitar sounds so familiar, it's the intro of Kurenai from X-Japan, i see you're man of culture indeed.
The whole argument against D'Arce S ending is the one line coming from someone who was just revived. It could very well be that after he talked to the person who revived him that he pulled a Miasma and kept his senses. That's less of a stretch than Darce somehow helping Le Garde ascend before or after Ragnavaldr slaughters everything in his S ending
The only thing I think you forgot to mention was that it was likely D'arce that rescued and led Le'garde to the golden throne. With all of the pathes that were taken, you could think of the story as something like this: - Each PC enters the dungeon alone. D'arce is the first parties with Cahara (likely when rescued) but is robbed, and finds Le'garde before anyone else. At some point they also end up partying with Nas'hrah. - Meanwhile Ragnvaldr, Enki, and Cahara all seek their goals, and in the process find that Le'garde is no longer in the cell. At some point they join a party, Enki seeking enlightenment wanting to sit on the throne himself, Ragnvaldr wanting revenge, and Cahara wanting to claim the bounty, which all align with hunting down Le'garde, but end up being ahead of him to the throne. - After encountering Nilvan on a the journey to the throne, Cahara agrees to escort the girl (which may or may not be in the party) and parts ways. - Ragnvaldr and Enki make it to the throne first. Enki takes the throne and (since he completed the steps prior in their journey), reject his godhood and ends his questline. Ragnvaldr parts ways to go find Le'garde. *The Enlightenment Ending* - Missing Ragnvaldr; D'arce, Le'garde, and Nas'hara make it to the throne, free for the taking. Le'garde ascends, D'arce's ending doesn't matter, but knowing her character enders the void and bows to the Yellow King. Nas'hara doesn't care and leaves when this happens. *The Prophecy Ending* - Nas'hara leaves, and either by Cahara destroying the hearts or by himself doing it, faces Gro-Goroth and gets burned. *Charred head Nas'hara* - Cahara takes the girl to heart of darkness, where he faces the god of fear and hunger before ultimately perishing. *The God of Fear & Hunger Ending* - Ragnvaldr, still searching for Le'garde, ends up collecting all of the remaining souls, befriends Moonless at some point, and either can't find Le'garde and/or realizes he's become a god (perhaps through encountering D'arce) and must play the long con to defeat him through his descendants, leaving the dungeon. *God of Ultra-Violence Ending* Everything else plays out the same after, but I feel like this would be the most cannon order of events to some degree because it allows everyone the chance to complete their goals while acting on their character in a timeframe that makes the most sense. Good video though, puts a lot of the pieces from the second game I was missing into perspective.
See, the issue is that L'gard dies canonically, as S endings can only be canon on hardest diff, and he always dies during those - which means that D'arce had to found him dead. Ascention might've helped him stabilize a little, but he def a ghoul.
It's actually never brought up that he is a ghoul or was resurrected in the second game, I talk about it in the video as even Nas'hrah never says anything to confirm that and the Kaiser isn't vicious and bloodthirsty by nature, but only became so after he was unable to be humanity's savior
@@Omni_World But...that is not what I even said? 1) We know that S endings are canon -> 2) We know that S endings are possible only on Hard Mode -> 3) Thus, "hard mode" is canon -> 4) Le'garde always dies on Hard mode -> 5) If hard mode is canon, which it has to be, Le'garde dies canonically -> 6) Meaning, for him to be in F&H2, he had to be resurrected by D'arce as he was, you know, dead.
The S endings aren't all canon though and that isn't stated anywhere that they are as I talk about in the video. If that were the case, the timeline would be very easy. I talk about this in the video
@@Omni_World I did not say that all S endings are canon? I simply highlighted a fact that for S endings to be canon in the first place, Le'garde dies. Like, if Le'garde lives, no S ending can take place - which we know is not right given that at least 2 S endings are canon, which means that we are living in a "hard mode" timeline, meaning, Le'garde dies.
Could you imagine making it to Go-goroth and then seeing a floating head talk big game. Try and take your kill. Then get scorched and yeeted away. That had to be the only funny thing witnessed in that place. Probably why the girl isn't allowed to see it. That bug is probably Go-goroth making sure the players and "all of China" knows what he did to Nas'hrah, so he can't lie. I can't believe I share the same soul type.
The only S ending not being canon (cahara) isn’t actually true. Since Kaiser is actually the yellow king and the new God version of legarde it’s really fair to say he doesn’t die and didn’t get resurrected by darce. Hear me out. While yes, the game mode in order to get S endings in the first game always had legarde dead. It contradicts what we see in Termina. Legarde isn’t some mad ghoul, he works with the other new Gods on equal footing because he was the LAST new God to be made. We know the little girl canonically becomes the new ascended God of Fear and Hunger but we also know Legarde too becomes a God. It only makes sense both prophecies came true. Now in order for the termina canon to exist one of the main four playable characters in the first game will have to die bringing the little girl through the gauntlet. The only other character who can fit this is darce, stay with me now ✋ WE KNOW for a fact enki and raganvowut exist in the worlds history thanks to termina. The only two playable characters in the first game we don’t know what happens next too is darce and cahara. I truly believe it’s more likely that darce simply missed legarde in the first game. That cahara completed his mission bringing legarde to mahabre and he left after getting his loot. darce being dejected never finding legarde and always being one step behind him unknowingly would run into nilvan the endless and be tasked with bringing the little girl to the gauntlet (assuming she didn’t find and take the little girl from the beginning). I think it fits perfectly in her knightly personality to have helped the little girl after never finding her beloved. So it’s just as viable that she didn’t get her S ending as much as cahara. You just have to imagine as the player character you choose darce and complete ending A after never finding legarde (or finding legarde too late and never finding the resurrection spell). All this while the other characters achieve their S endings. I personally like this option a lot more because cahara deserves a happy ending while darce’s S ending conflicts with termina, cahara’s doesn’t. You just have to ignore the inherent gameplay in Hard mode that starts legarde dead or think cahara after realizing he failed his mission still ran into isiyah and didn’t want to leave empty handed. One last tidbit. Even if you think legarde in termina isn’t a true new god and not the true yellow king but a ghoul. It’s impossible due to in game magic lore reasons for a ghoul to become a new God. It’s also not possible for ghoul legarde to become a new god because legarde’s dialogue about him truly thinking he achieved what he came for at the end of darce S ending.
I totally agree and think that’s the biggest misconception people have :) that’s exactly what I talk about in my points in D’arce and the Yellow King endings 😁
I think the S ending is cannon and him taking the girl with him is cannon, but one day he gets a dream from Nilvan who haunted him. Said he and his bloodline would be cursed for eternity because they failed/refuse to bring the girl to the depths. After years passed Cahara now older having raised a kid or two, brings the girl who is now brighter and grown into a beautiful young maiden. He only goes through with it after being haunted with the same dream for so many years from Nilvan. Worrying for his family and his next of kins fate. The girl traveling with her adoptive father because she knows that he needs support. Unbeknownst to her of his intentions, he recalls the methods of how to get to the depths. Encountering old corpses that the party has slain now molded and bones. Reaching the Cave dwellers area, they were chased by a two headed mutated crow mauler. Making it to the depths out of desperation, they escaped to the mouth of the depths. Unable to find an exit they realized that they had to have a final showdown with the crow Mauler. After the subsequent battle, the two were victorious. With no ways to leave they could only travel further. When they reached the mountain of corpses, Cahara tells her to be careful as she approaches the ledge. The girl dressed in a beautiful black dress turns to Cahara and gives a bright smile of assurance. Then the scene plays out as expected for ending A. -it only makes sense in chronological order if all S endings are cannon.
I actually like this and how you described it. Achaea and honestly one of the main reasons I believe he is never mentioned in termina is probably to due to the fact of the ptsd he gained from being in the dungeon so what would someone with that condition do? He and his wife while rich probably went into to hiding even more and left without a trace to get away from the horrors
Yes I'm planning both a long form video on all of the Gods and on the Sulfur Cult specifically, I'll have more info once they're closer to being released :)
I’m gonna make a sequel to this game called Bravery & Fullness. It’s a game where you’re brave af and always have PLENTY of food. And the dogs are the start are just friendly good boys lol And the torturer is just the local reddit mod (:
Theory: What if Nashrah brought the girl to the Gauntlet, thus allowing him ti challenge the Traces of Gro-Goroth and being burned. There, the Traces of Gro-Goroth would've exposed the Girl to the true shape of the world, which causes her to snap and begin her ascension to become the God Of Fear and Hunger. He would do this because Gro-Goroth would see the Girl as a pure being, as she's only ever known Fear and Hunger.
He should've been taken out of the pile with bodies, otherwise he won't leave untill he had a full body. And I doubt girl escaped herself and got him out while having cube of the depths and a talisman.
With Le'garde theres a other posb, Da'rce S Ending with necromancy, when fighting the keiser he turns into flesh monster, as it was in Ending S but its f&h everything is posb
I talk about this in the video actually, we see a similar spell used by Father Domek which seems to much of a coincidence for it not to be the same spell
Regarding D'arce ending C... Yes Le'garde was raised bloodthirsty, but he continued his path in to the void to become a new god, in the ending C, Le'garde rises as a force of good for humanity, but if the real ending of Le'garde is a mix of S ending D'arce and C, then he can be a calculating yet violent individual in order to achive his goal. My point is that his time ascending to godhood restored his logic, gave him a goal but his unnatural resurrection also gave him a way of thinking that the methods justify the end.
@Omni_World it's honestly more someone throwing a theory at a wall hoping it would stick. There was a reddit post a while back talking about it. But they never went into full detail how it came to be.
I do believe you could argue that if Ragnavaldr found Legarde's dead body (assuming that Legarde has to be dead at the start for the S endings to come true), he'd have felt like he had failed his mission to get revenge on Legarde. He could have later found out about Legarde's ascension. Afterwards he'd have continued to get the different souls to become the God of Ultra-Violence, but have also instructed his descendants on monster slaying and Legarde being the Yellow King (later known as the Kaiser) to hunt him down. This would be the way to finally have his revenge. This would also mean his S ending as a whole would be canon.
Damn. Your explaination of the C ending covers tons of things. But was the dialogue between Nas Rhah and Le Gard added later in the game? I don't recall anything like that.
Really great timeline, I mostly agree with it. Just one question: Who do you think brought Nas'rah down to face the Traces of Gro-Goroth in the Gauntlet? I doubt he could have gotten there himself. Also, how do both encounters with the God of Fear and Hunger and with Gro-Goroth happen in the same timeline?
Thank you! So with Nas'hrah there are a couple caveats: the first is we know he was with Le'garde in human form as the Kaiser references the advice Nas'hrah gave him as he was about to sit on the Golden Throne. The second is that O'saa finds Nas'hrah in what seems to be the Tomb of the Gods in Ma'habre, (all we are told is it is within "ruins of an ancient city" after a digging site which suggests the mines), and O'saa didn't go into the Gauntlet to get Nas'hrah From this, I take it to mean Nas'hrah faced the Traces of Gro-goroth somewhere else in the dungeons and facing the Traces within the Gauntlet is more of a gameplay feature for going there without the Girl as the party would have no reason to explore down there until Nilvan asks them to.
The Kaiser talks about how he ended up taking Nas'hrah's advice and realized becoming a New God wouldn't lead to the world he wanted and he couldn't be the true savior of mankind. He or Nas'hrah never bring up anything about Le'garde dying and being resurrected which was a lot of evidence for my argument against D'arce's S ending being canonical
I mean why does the God of Fear and Hunger ending text get taken as the truth but the Yellow King ending text get ignored? I doubt that the benevolent new god would succumb to madness to the point of becoming the WW2 leader of in-game Germany. I also think that it makes the most since that Enki and Rag temporarily teamed up so that Rag gets the souls and Enki still gets to touch the throne to reject godhood, which also requires the souls, leaving it empty for vampire Le'Gard to sit on it without opposition, possibly led by the Wizard.
The resurrected ghoul by Darce is the Le'garde that ascended. The irony of it is beautiful. The arguments you present can't be considered solid enough to counter that truth.
In what way are they not solid and what evidence is there for Le'garde being resurrected and ascending when there is no proof of that in the second game?
Mr Omni World, i didn't watch the video to avoid spoilers. So i just wanted to ask, is it possible to save all the contestants/characters in Fear And Hunger 2, as long as you make the right decisions, kind of like Until Dawn? Sorry for the dumb questions, and thank you for being my go-to TH-camr when I need my Fear and Hunger fix! ❤
@@pablomattei4380 Thank you for telling me. But I'd like to know how we can be sure what's canon or not for Termina? Has the third Fear and Hunger been confirmed?
@@oppressionsimulatorgotyedi9009 Hey you're welcome! Well this is my hypothesis for why it is pretty possible that some of the contestant cononically dies, first of all in Termina they are in a "Battle Royale" and Per'kele will try to convince characters to kill each other and if some events takes place, it will happen. Then you have characters like Pav or Caligula, they can kill 3 or 4 characters if they are not dealt with, otherwise you have to avoid certain areas. Theres also Needles (the clown) who will basically kill every playable character in the span of 2 days except the one you're using, that means 7 characters who also are gone. You have to kill him fast and avoid certain scripted places or he kills Tanaka or Marina no matter what. Speaking of Tanaka, he has a lot of deaths so just for him you have to do some things and avoid some areas. And for last, the possible canonical ending being ending A your main character dies/sacrifices so even if you save every other contestant only 13 will survive. As you can read Termina kills a lot of characters, you can save them but if we are looking for canonical purposes there are a lot of chances that someone will die. And yes Fear and Hunger 3 is confirmed so actually when that game comes out we're going to know whats canon.
There's nothing about him said, the only real thing we see is the sword he is holding in his S ending art is the Sabbath sword we can get in the church rafters after using the Vinushka circle, but the description on that is about it being a vampire hunter sword and doesn't give any relation to Caharah :( would love to see some more references and lore on him though
@@Omni_World actually, I have one crazy theory about connection of endings A and S to Cahara. What IF he first got his S, got back to home with treasures, lived for some time, but he couldn't throw off the memories about the Dungeons, and ONLY after that he found a Girl and brought her to the Gauntlet. OR maybe, despite of the ending, she could spare him? Though I doubt if that would be possible, so I tend to think that, he first found the treasures, got back to home, made money to his family, then returned to DoF&H, found Girl and helped her to ascend. As I remember, Nilvan asked him to bring her to the Gauntlet. What if he met her at first time when he was visiting Ma'Havre while seeking treasures, but ignored her that time? After some time, he remembered her words and felt guilty, so he returned the DoF&H, and [I said it a few times already]. Might it be sound plausible?
It was actually about Le’garde, but the creation of the God of Fear and Hunger disrupted it. The New Gods and Nosramus confirm it as well as August in the second game as the prophecy was about a man with golden hair who would untie the warring nations, but the creation of the God of Fear and Hunger caused humanity to push themselves forward instead
You swat down sensible theories, only to prop up ones only based on opinion and no in game information. That is so wild. Good video, but I don't think you watched some of these parts back yourself to see how absurd they sound juxtaposed against each other.
I like the theory that Cahara’s S ending is him in a “dream state” as he’s slowly dying in the A ending.
That is interesting, especially since coming into contact with the Ascended God would definitely deplete his sanity
YOU WAS IN MY DREAM STATE
@@Omni_WorldDepending on perspective it is either mercy and thanks for his help into making the girl into the new god, or a sad way to go as. But considering he would have lost his mind already, shaping his final moments with the S ending is what I suppose the most the girl could do since he was going to die anyway.
It would most certainly be mercy
Imagine smashing a goddess just for your new daughter to become a more powerful goddess and beating you at your own goals. 💀
I love that Ragnavalder is basically the birth of fear and hunger’s version of the belmonts
was thinking more like Guts from berserk sorta
The lore and the art make this game. Funger succeeds more so *in spite* of its gameplay rather than *due* to it.
ngl its one of the more engaging rpgmakers ive played
The lore and art of this game are absolutely top tier, so easy to get into the rabbit hole of it all and the monster, Gods, and character illustrations are so enchanting. Really nothing like Fear & Hunger out there. Personally, I like the turn based combat as I grew up playing a lot of turn based RPG and it's nice to see it in a horror context and with strategy once you learn the game :)
W fungus
personal preference
The gameplay if paired with a different setting, artstyle and lore would still be as infamous as it is in Funger. Rpgmaker games where the difficulty depends on your knowledge, with dark or just adult themes in gameplay shouldn't be too rare
That's not saying Funger is only infamous for the gameplay, I just think the gameplay is also to be commemorated despite its levels of scuffed
Cahara’s S ending is referenced in termina. You can find the sword he wields in his S ending in the museum….its weirdly implied that every S ending is cannon while A and C-2 is also cannon. I usually head cannon that the Raven mauler grabbed the girl and threw her down to the traces so A could happen while all S endings still happen
I think all characters has a purpose:
1.Enki did obviously get enlightened.
2.Ragnavald went on killing monsters as l'egard was already dead.
3.D'arce resurrected l'egarde.
4.Caharra help create the god of fear and hunger.
You’ve got Legard wrong. Darce’s S ending and C2 ending are Cannon. Hes resurrected as a vampire, then ascends. He’s weak to the same things undead are weak to in Termina, and Miro has stated that FAH3 will be about vampires….with Legard returning as a main character.
ngl it would be pretty metal if we get vampire D'arce in FAH3
That's a nice argument Senator, why don't you back it up with a source? About what part 3 is gonna be about specifically.
@@Qnio if I recall. The creator said that in his twitter, Twilight is part of the inspirations for the 3rd game lol
@@obarasama I only remember him saying that after part 3 Le'Garde will be many people's new favorite character. All I know about Twilight being an inspiration are a few dialogues in Termina though.
So L'gard transform from Griffith to DIO?
Cahara and the little girl were chased down by the Goddamn crow mauler
Hahaha especially by the Double Headed Crow Mauler in the Gauntlet 😅
@@Omni_World hate that two headed nicompoo
I think maybe darce assistant le garde in his ascend to become the yellow king, but she was left behind, not entering the void after le garde reveals his plan to her and nacha, just for nachar to leave her and go conflict with the god of destruction alone.
As she was alone, ragnva would find her where she would reveal the plan that le garde had, maybe she go with ragnva,maybe she prefers to die in the dungeon.
That very well could be she was the one who told Ragnvaldr what happened
Love the video, but at this ending 17:28 id argue it is that L’gard but what truly happens is D’arce actually take this L’gard to become a new god, giving him a fraction of the power he would have if he’s was still originally human,
Same here, I don't see why these endings can't coexist.
The main reasons I don't see that to be canonical is D'arce's S ending specifically talks about how the resurrected Le'garde is bloodthirsty and evil, and leaves the dungeons to become a Warlord where D'arce follows by his side as Le'garde unleashes his suffering on the world. This resurrected version of Le'garde also calls himself a God and would have no reason to ascend, much less have a conversation with Nas'hrah about it which the Kaiser references if you meet him as O'saa
@Omni_World but he literally does become a warlord as Kaiser
@DozleZabi I talk about it in depth in the video, but he isn't inherently violent, quite the opposite as the Yellow King comes from the Void to become the savior of humanity, but due to the God of Fear & Hunger being created, humanity no longer needs him to save them. This causes him to slowly go mad and be called the Yellow King of Madness as he justifies any violent means to get his divine end of saving humanity thus starting the 2nd Great War to get his hands on Prehevil and the Logic Project. August tells us all of this in the second game, and neither him or Nas'hrah talk about him being a ghoul or brought back to life in any way despite knowing all about him and his ascension as a New God
@@Omni_World i love the response because i know there are still holes in my theory and it still leaves a lot for speculation, this game gives a lot of really interesting ways if thing about character writing and the story telling.
And you bring up the god of fear and hunger actually brings in another theory i have and started to add more ground too, any time an Ascend god or Old god come in to being, like Allmere or Fear and Hunger there is always another god that forms with them in one way or another.
L'gard only enters because he believes he is the savor of the world, and looked to ascend to become a god. It wouldn't be to far to say that even once brought back by D'arce, that she'd help him completely or for the sake of power turn him in to a new god. Honestly this is more my head cannon then anything, thinking enough I'm sure there is away to make all s-ending work (expect Cahara maybe tbh, I do have a theory for this one too its just not solid in anyway)
It's not just Cahara who was not mentioned in FH2. D'arce wasn't mentioned too. We don't really know what happened to her after FH1. It's either she died while taking care of Le'garde in the Green Hue, was killed by Le'garde, or died in the dungeon and she and Cahara brought the Girl to the 10th flr of the dungeon.
they literally say this in the video
Cahara's new god form goes so fucking hard, goddamnit
I love it too :) reminds me of Jecht from FFX
So we can make a list of this, and somehow we gotta make sense of the next events:
Enki Ankarian, the Dark Priest: S ending, he beace the new Nosramus, probably still alive by Termina timeline and rejected the golden throne.
Ragnvaldr, the Outlander: S ending,he became the god of utlra violence alongside moonless and went on to hunt demons, as we see in termina there are few of them in Europe, alongside the vatinca inquisition of vampires and wolves... but he must interact with Legardes dead body, isn't it?
Moonless: Ragnavaldr best girl
Legarde: became the yellow king, he spent centuries in the green hue as we see that a few minutes could be years or months but time works different there, by the time he came out of there the cruel age had already begun.
Girl: someone, either D'arce or Cahara, took her to the gauntlet to her ascension.
So we have two endings open for the canonical route:
1) D'arce: she died in the 10th floor, left the dungeon after she found Legarde already left the cell, became a new god or she took legarde to the golden throne and went to look after him and died in the green hue
2) Cahara: he died in the 10th floor, he took legarde to the golden throne and left the dungeon with the crown, became a new god or died in the green hue.
Hopefully we could get an item that points at an ending of both characters so we have more clues.
WOW didn't expected a X-Japan song for the bgm from a FnH vid lol.
No wonder the acoustic guitar sounds so familiar, it's the intro of Kurenai from X-Japan, i see you're man of culture indeed.
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The whole argument against D'Arce S ending is the one line coming from someone who was just revived. It could very well be that after he talked to the person who revived him that he pulled a Miasma and kept his senses. That's less of a stretch than Darce somehow helping Le Garde ascend before or after Ragnavaldr slaughters everything in his S ending
The only thing I think you forgot to mention was that it was likely D'arce that rescued and led Le'garde to the golden throne. With all of the pathes that were taken, you could think of the story as something like this:
- Each PC enters the dungeon alone. D'arce is the first parties with Cahara (likely when rescued) but is robbed, and finds Le'garde before anyone else. At some point they also end up partying with Nas'hrah.
- Meanwhile Ragnvaldr, Enki, and Cahara all seek their goals, and in the process find that Le'garde is no longer in the cell. At some point they join a party, Enki seeking enlightenment wanting to sit on the throne himself, Ragnvaldr wanting revenge, and Cahara wanting to claim the bounty, which all align with hunting down Le'garde, but end up being ahead of him to the throne.
- After encountering Nilvan on a the journey to the throne, Cahara agrees to escort the girl (which may or may not be in the party) and parts ways.
- Ragnvaldr and Enki make it to the throne first. Enki takes the throne and (since he completed the steps prior in their journey), reject his godhood and ends his questline. Ragnvaldr parts ways to go find Le'garde. *The Enlightenment Ending*
- Missing Ragnvaldr; D'arce, Le'garde, and Nas'hara make it to the throne, free for the taking. Le'garde ascends, D'arce's ending doesn't matter, but knowing her character enders the void and bows to the Yellow King. Nas'hara doesn't care and leaves when this happens. *The Prophecy Ending*
- Nas'hara leaves, and either by Cahara destroying the hearts or by himself doing it, faces Gro-Goroth and gets burned. *Charred head Nas'hara*
- Cahara takes the girl to heart of darkness, where he faces the god of fear and hunger before ultimately perishing. *The God of Fear & Hunger Ending*
- Ragnvaldr, still searching for Le'garde, ends up collecting all of the remaining souls, befriends Moonless at some point, and either can't find Le'garde and/or realizes he's become a god (perhaps through encountering D'arce) and must play the long con to defeat him through his descendants, leaving the dungeon. *God of Ultra-Violence Ending*
Everything else plays out the same after, but I feel like this would be the most cannon order of events to some degree because it allows everyone the chance to complete their goals while acting on their character in a timeframe that makes the most sense.
Good video though, puts a lot of the pieces from the second game I was missing into perspective.
See, the issue is that L'gard dies canonically, as S endings can only be canon on hardest diff, and he always dies during those - which means that D'arce had to found him dead. Ascention might've helped him stabilize a little, but he def a ghoul.
It's actually never brought up that he is a ghoul or was resurrected in the second game, I talk about it in the video as even Nas'hrah never says anything to confirm that and the Kaiser isn't vicious and bloodthirsty by nature, but only became so after he was unable to be humanity's savior
@@Omni_World But...that is not what I even said? 1) We know that S endings are canon -> 2) We know that S endings are possible only on Hard Mode -> 3) Thus, "hard mode" is canon -> 4) Le'garde always dies on Hard mode -> 5) If hard mode is canon, which it has to be, Le'garde dies canonically -> 6) Meaning, for him to be in F&H2, he had to be resurrected by D'arce as he was, you know, dead.
The S endings aren't all canon though and that isn't stated anywhere that they are as I talk about in the video. If that were the case, the timeline would be very easy. I talk about this in the video
@@Omni_World I did not say that all S endings are canon? I simply highlighted a fact that for S endings to be canon in the first place, Le'garde dies. Like, if Le'garde lives, no S ending can take place - which we know is not right given that at least 2 S endings are canon, which means that we are living in a "hard mode" timeline, meaning, Le'garde dies.
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Could you imagine making it to Go-goroth and then seeing a floating head talk big game. Try and take your kill. Then get scorched and yeeted away.
That had to be the only funny thing witnessed in that place. Probably why the girl isn't allowed to see it.
That bug is probably Go-goroth making sure the players and "all of China" knows what he did to Nas'hrah, so he can't lie. I can't believe I share the same soul type.
The only S ending not being canon (cahara) isn’t actually true. Since Kaiser is actually the yellow king and the new God version of legarde it’s really fair to say he doesn’t die and didn’t get resurrected by darce. Hear me out. While yes, the game mode in order to get S endings in the first game always had legarde dead. It contradicts what we see in Termina. Legarde isn’t some mad ghoul, he works with the other new Gods on equal footing because he was the LAST new God to be made. We know the little girl canonically becomes the new ascended God of Fear and Hunger but we also know Legarde too becomes a God. It only makes sense both prophecies came true. Now in order for the termina canon to exist one of the main four playable characters in the first game will have to die bringing the little girl through the gauntlet. The only other character who can fit this is darce, stay with me now ✋ WE KNOW for a fact enki and raganvowut exist in the worlds history thanks to termina. The only two playable characters in the first game we don’t know what happens next too is darce and cahara. I truly believe it’s more likely that darce simply missed legarde in the first game. That cahara completed his mission bringing legarde to mahabre and he left after getting his loot. darce being dejected never finding legarde and always being one step behind him unknowingly would run into nilvan the endless and be tasked with bringing the little girl to the gauntlet (assuming she didn’t find and take the little girl from the beginning). I think it fits perfectly in her knightly personality to have helped the little girl after never finding her beloved. So it’s just as viable that she didn’t get her S ending as much as cahara. You just have to imagine as the player character you choose darce and complete ending A after never finding legarde (or finding legarde too late and never finding the resurrection spell). All this while the other characters achieve their S endings. I personally like this option a lot more because cahara deserves a happy ending while darce’s S ending conflicts with termina, cahara’s doesn’t. You just have to ignore the inherent gameplay in Hard mode that starts legarde dead or think cahara after realizing he failed his mission still ran into isiyah and didn’t want to leave empty handed. One last tidbit. Even if you think legarde in termina isn’t a true new god and not the true yellow king but a ghoul. It’s impossible due to in game magic lore reasons for a ghoul to become a new God. It’s also not possible for ghoul legarde to become a new god because legarde’s dialogue about him truly thinking he achieved what he came for at the end of darce S ending.
I totally agree and think that’s the biggest misconception people have :) that’s exactly what I talk about in my points in D’arce and the Yellow King endings 😁
I think the S ending is cannon and him taking the girl with him is cannon, but one day he gets a dream from Nilvan who haunted him. Said he and his bloodline would be cursed for eternity because they failed/refuse to bring the girl to the depths.
After years passed Cahara now older having raised a kid or two, brings the girl who is now brighter and grown into a beautiful young maiden. He only goes through with it after being haunted with the same dream for so many years from Nilvan. Worrying for his family and his next of kins fate. The girl traveling with her adoptive father because she knows that he needs support. Unbeknownst to her of his intentions, he recalls the methods of how to get to the depths. Encountering old corpses that the party has slain now molded and bones. Reaching the Cave dwellers area, they were chased by a two headed mutated crow mauler. Making it to the depths out of desperation, they escaped to the mouth of the depths. Unable to find an exit they realized that they had to have a final showdown with the crow Mauler. After the subsequent battle, the two were victorious. With no ways to leave they could only travel further. When they reached the mountain of corpses, Cahara tells her to be careful as she approaches the ledge. The girl dressed in a beautiful black dress turns to Cahara and gives a bright smile of assurance. Then the scene plays out as expected for ending A.
-it only makes sense in chronological order if all S endings are cannon.
No , Le’garde isn’t the last new god they have the Radiating one , which some speculate to be D’arce that ascended
I actually like this and how you described it. Achaea and honestly one of the main reasons I believe he is never mentioned in termina is probably to due to the fact of the ptsd he gained from being in the dungeon so what would someone with that condition do? He and his wife while rich probably went into to hiding even more and left without a trace to get away from the horrors
Dude i put this video on in the background... Logic's theme hit and... GOD I LOVE THIS THEME
Great video. Could you do one on Allmer/Sulfur and how Allmer´s workship in Prehevil is actually a Sulfur cult?
Yes I'm planning both a long form video on all of the Gods and on the Sulfur Cult specifically, I'll have more info once they're closer to being released :)
I’m gonna make a sequel to this game called Bravery & Fullness. It’s a game where you’re brave af and always have PLENTY of food.
And the dogs are the start are just friendly good boys lol And the torturer is just the local reddit mod (:
Awesome video dude!
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
Theory: What if Nashrah brought the girl to the Gauntlet, thus allowing him ti challenge the Traces of Gro-Goroth and being burned. There, the Traces of Gro-Goroth would've exposed the Girl to the true shape of the world, which causes her to snap and begin her ascension to become the God Of Fear and Hunger. He would do this because Gro-Goroth would see the Girl as a pure being, as she's only ever known Fear and Hunger.
He should've been taken out of the pile with bodies, otherwise he won't leave untill he had a full body. And I doubt girl escaped herself and got him out while having cube of the depths and a talisman.
With Le'garde theres a other posb, Da'rce S Ending with necromancy, when fighting the keiser he turns into flesh monster, as it was in Ending S but its f&h everything is posb
I talk about this in the video actually, we see a similar spell used by Father Domek which seems to much of a coincidence for it not to be the same spell
The transition at 10:07 goes crazy
19:00 ok this was a good point.
Never played the game, haven't got the time to really sink in to it ATM but love the art and lore. Great video, new follower from me.
Regarding D'arce ending C... Yes Le'garde was raised bloodthirsty, but he continued his path in to the void to become a new god, in the ending C, Le'garde rises as a force of good for humanity, but if the real ending of Le'garde is a mix of S ending D'arce and C, then he can be a calculating yet violent individual in order to achive his goal.
My point is that his time ascending to godhood restored his logic, gave him a goal but his unnatural resurrection also gave him a way of thinking that the methods justify the end.
So Ragnavaldr is basically Leon Belmont from Castlevania, hunting down Le'Garde, aka his Dracula for Centuries.
Neat ending.
Incredible video! What song is playing at 24:00? It's such a nice piano piece! ❤ Thanks for making Fear and Hunger make sense!❤
I second this
yea whats the name of the song
So what of the theory that D'arce became The Heartless One
I haven't seen that theory but I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that, what is the theory based on?
@Omni_World it's honestly more someone throwing a theory at a wall hoping it would stick. There was a reddit post a while back talking about it. But they never went into full detail how it came to be.
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how come u don't have a million likes here yet?
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Funger doesn't even have that much player
@@Moe_leh_star naooo:(
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@@КириллБелоусов-е5э it's the truth it's not known to many despite how great it is
@@Moe_leh_star such a tragedy
well, at least I'm lucky enough to know it
Haha thank you, we are certainly getting there :)
I do believe you could argue that if Ragnavaldr found Legarde's dead body (assuming that Legarde has to be dead at the start for the S endings to come true), he'd have felt like he had failed his mission to get revenge on Legarde. He could have later found out about Legarde's ascension.
Afterwards he'd have continued to get the different souls to become the God of Ultra-Violence, but have also instructed his descendants on monster slaying and Legarde being the Yellow King (later known as the Kaiser) to hunt him down. This would be the way to finally have his revenge. This would also mean his S ending as a whole would be canon.
Love the video btw! Keep up the good work 👏
Damn. Your explaination of the C ending covers tons of things. But was the dialogue between Nas Rhah and Le Gard added later in the game? I don't recall anything like that.
Damn! good content !
Thanks mate :) I'm glad you liked it!
I lkie your long videos keep up good worker
Really great timeline, I mostly agree with it. Just one question: Who do you think brought Nas'rah down to face the Traces of Gro-Goroth in the Gauntlet? I doubt he could have gotten there himself. Also, how do both encounters with the God of Fear and Hunger and with Gro-Goroth happen in the same timeline?
Thank you! So with Nas'hrah there are a couple caveats: the first is we know he was with Le'garde in human form as the Kaiser references the advice Nas'hrah gave him as he was about to sit on the Golden Throne. The second is that O'saa finds Nas'hrah in what seems to be the Tomb of the Gods in Ma'habre, (all we are told is it is within "ruins of an ancient city" after a digging site which suggests the mines), and O'saa didn't go into the Gauntlet to get Nas'hrah
From this, I take it to mean Nas'hrah faced the Traces of Gro-goroth somewhere else in the dungeons and facing the Traces within the Gauntlet is more of a gameplay feature for going there without the Girl as the party would have no reason to explore down there until Nilvan asks them to.
Huh...
I always thought D'arce became that Sylvian Trooper that led the Platoon boss.
My take on what happened to D'arce is that she, after everything that happened, became The Heartless One in Termina
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didn’t Kaiser say he got left his more violent self to rot in the green hue or something if you’re playing as o’saa?
The Kaiser talks about how he ended up taking Nas'hrah's advice and realized becoming a New God wouldn't lead to the world he wanted and he couldn't be the true savior of mankind. He or Nas'hrah never bring up anything about Le'garde dying and being resurrected which was a lot of evidence for my argument against D'arce's S ending being canonical
certainly would go along with the idea of ascention helping him "alleviate" some of the madness from ressurection
I mean why does the God of Fear and Hunger ending text get taken as the truth but the Yellow King ending text get ignored? I doubt that the benevolent new god would succumb to madness to the point of becoming the WW2 leader of in-game Germany.
I also think that it makes the most since that Enki and Rag temporarily teamed up so that Rag gets the souls and Enki still gets to touch the throne to reject godhood, which also requires the souls, leaving it empty for vampire Le'Gard to sit on it without opposition, possibly led by the Wizard.
I just love this game!
Do anyone know what musics the Omni_World used in this video? exactly on 19:53?
I think that D'arce brought le'garde to the golden throne where he ascended
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The resurrected ghoul by Darce is the Le'garde that ascended. The irony of it is beautiful. The arguments you present can't be considered solid enough to counter that truth.
In what way are they not solid and what evidence is there for Le'garde being resurrected and ascending when there is no proof of that in the second game?
Mr Omni World, i didn't watch the video to avoid spoilers. So i just wanted to ask, is it possible to save all the contestants/characters in Fear And Hunger 2, as long as you make the right decisions, kind of like Until Dawn? Sorry for the dumb questions, and thank you for being my go-to TH-camr when I need my Fear and Hunger fix! ❤
Yes, you can save them all if you things right. But I don't think that scenario is canon for Termina.
@@pablomattei4380 Thank you for telling me. But I'd like to know how we can be sure what's canon or not for Termina? Has the third Fear and Hunger been confirmed?
@@oppressionsimulatorgotyedi9009 Hey you're welcome! Well this is my hypothesis for why it is pretty possible that some of the contestant cononically dies, first of all in Termina they are in a "Battle Royale" and Per'kele will try to convince characters to kill each other and if some events takes place, it will happen.
Then you have characters like Pav or Caligula, they can kill 3 or 4 characters if they are not dealt with, otherwise you have to avoid certain areas.
Theres also Needles (the clown) who will basically kill every playable character in the span of 2 days except the one you're using, that means 7 characters who also are gone. You have to kill him fast and avoid certain scripted places or he kills Tanaka or Marina no matter what.
Speaking of Tanaka, he has a lot of deaths so just for him you have to do some things and avoid some areas.
And for last, the possible canonical ending being ending A your main character dies/sacrifices so even if you save every other contestant only 13 will survive.
As you can read Termina kills a lot of characters, you can save them but if we are looking for canonical purposes there are a lot of chances that someone will die. And yes Fear and Hunger 3 is confirmed so actually when that game comes out we're going to know whats canon.
Doesn't Cahara has any references in F&H2? I tend to think that Karin is the offspring of Cahara, but I can't remember why exactly.
There's nothing about him said, the only real thing we see is the sword he is holding in his S ending art is the Sabbath sword we can get in the church rafters after using the Vinushka circle, but the description on that is about it being a vampire hunter sword and doesn't give any relation to Caharah :( would love to see some more references and lore on him though
@@Omni_World actually, I have one crazy theory about connection of endings A and S to Cahara. What IF he first got his S, got back to home with treasures, lived for some time, but he couldn't throw off the memories about the Dungeons, and ONLY after that he found a Girl and brought her to the Gauntlet. OR maybe, despite of the ending, she could spare him? Though I doubt if that would be possible, so I tend to think that, he first found the treasures, got back to home, made money to his family, then returned to DoF&H, found Girl and helped her to ascend. As I remember, Nilvan asked him to bring her to the Gauntlet. What if he met her at first time when he was visiting Ma'Havre while seeking treasures, but ignored her that time? After some time, he remembered her words and felt guilty, so he returned the DoF&H, and [I said it a few times already]. Might it be sound plausible?
Great video, very dumb of me to not watch it the moment it came out
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The prophecy was never about Le'garde. It was about the girl. He misinterperets it as being about him.
It was actually about Le’garde, but the creation of the God of Fear and Hunger disrupted it. The New Gods and Nosramus confirm it as well as August in the second game as the prophecy was about a man with golden hair who would untie the warring nations, but the creation of the God of Fear and Hunger caused humanity to push themselves forward instead
Legard can't have ascended to godhood, he would've been sent to the hall of gods after he was forgotten
Why does legarde spend time in the void and how does he leave? How come the dinosaurs havent left the void.
19:14 subtitle error?
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So among all, apparently our goth priest Enki was the only one who became successful 😂
What's the ost that played in 18:54 ?
unknowable by chilly makes music
You swat down sensible theories, only to prop up ones only based on opinion and no in game information. That is so wild. Good video, but I don't think you watched some of these parts back yourself to see how absurd they sound juxtaposed against each other.
Hey there :) which ones are those you are talking about?
@@Omni_World Hey are you going to make video about all the answers to the questions you ask the New Gods in the Hall?
I think darce s enough and ending c2 are both cannon he was reborn and the asended
can le garde ascended as a ghoul ?
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This is like undertale
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Fear And Hunger. The game that teaches us that happy endings are for losers. 😂😂😂
Hahaha no one gets a truly happy ending 😅
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Fine. Explain rot on Caiser
I literally do in the video :)
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Whats the ost that played in 24:25 ?