Will Wright GDC 2005 Spore (The Future of Content) Remastered
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Will Wright talking at the 2005 Game Developer's Conference about 'Spore', which looks like it could possibly be the best video game ever.
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I tried to fix up this video as best as I could. Unfortunately the game sections were recorded off of a projector screen so it's pretty blown out.
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Screw cyberpunk. This was the real defeat
Agree!!
wym the final product is way more cute and fun and silly imo
@@Diamoondust maybe because they cutted tons of interesting features
@@Diamoondust but it’s also less sim, more RPG, less scientific and less interesting. The point of Spore was not to be “cute”, the point was to be a sim.
@@iamlordstarbuilder5595 thats for you. for me, as an 8-9 year old when i played it in like 2012 it ignited my interest to biology and is a big part of the reason why im studying something related to it. I get the appeal, but I wouldn't have it any other way.
16 years and I still haven't forgotten.
Lol
Still haven't. Such a grand concept that could have made a HUGE splash rather then the whimper we got
agony
were all in the same suffuring stay strong dreamer .
Some of us will never forget what could have been
Remember what they took from us 😔
now we got a game that crashes on space stage
@fdnxzatii yeah if you skip the deeath cutscene it crashes
it probably wouldn't have aged well if the game came out not to dissimilar from 2005
Thank you so much for uploading this. Sometimes I watch the 2005 Spore presentation, and just wonder what could've been,
I’m currently working on a game engine greatly inspired by the demoscene and especially .kkrieger, and I intend to carry on Wright’s “future of content” vision, without having to bow to such a malevolent publisher as EA to limit the software freedoms of my fans. I’m going to start with The Descent, an ocean exploration game, and then Spawn, a spiritual sequel to Spore.
look up “Elysian Eclipse” its a spiritual succsesor
I thought it was just me. I revisit that video every once in a while just to day dream
spore is a great example of why sometimes trying to appeal to a larger demographic can ruin a game
Just to clarify, is this in reference to the time when the game's development team was split into two camps and one of the camps, the "cute" team, got the appeal of EA?
"sometimes" bitch, please, it is 100% all of the time
gatekeeping is a good thing, only people that gets mad a game isn't for them are the ones the gate supposed to keep out
The creature stage walking animation is so much better, The way you can grab the small creatures is so cool but we sadly we got glitchy animations in the game here in 2022
You mean 2008 when the game was released? Not 2022
@@lostinthemesozoici never said spore released in 2022
I especially wish the quadruped animations were like this!
@@equinox20wastaken he didnt claim you did
I remember watching this on youtube back in 2005-2006. Thank you for uploading the remastered version of this. What they did to Spore is still a bitter pill to swallow all these years later.
“Ok and then we get into the procedural mating”
*willosaurs proceed to walk on top of eachother*
3 fun facts
1: prodedural mating would've been like that, but the creatures would actually start doing it after finding a good position, and you'd have to play a seduction and sex minigame along with it
2: to get new parts, you'd have to crossbreed, as opposed to befriending/destroying creatures and digging up bones
3: if you didn't befriend/destroy creatures, how would you get a bigger brain? just like what will said, you'd spend a bunch of dna to upgrade it.
@@AltairBlue
Source?
@@AwesomeYena
1: read it somewhere on the spore wiki when i made that comment, forgot where
2: iirc it's somewhere in spore the evolution (and on the wiki), probably never made it past concept stuff, same with the first one
3: obviously from this, will mentioned and showed it
@@AltairBlue are you sure the first is a fun fact
This looked sooo goood...
Why... why did they remove so much content and features...
Even the vegetation looks amazing.
I'm sure i'll be corrected if I'm wrong but I think EA wanted the game to be more kid-friendly, and gave the development more time constraints.
@@mannmctrash on the contrary, Maxis itself is responsible. There was a Great Schism within Maxis, and the EA-like “cute side” won against Will Wright. They stripped away much of the content to save time, and replaced the simlike UI with a more streamlined RPG kind of thing to again, save time.
@@iamlordstarbuilder5595 That's a crying shame it really is, still to this day I pray that one day Will Wright gets his chance to make the game how he wanted it to be. I love Spore as it turned out but it could've been so much more.
@@mannmctrash actually umm… immediately after writing this I went searching and I found out that Will Wright himself is largely responsible for those design decisions and the team was really just trying to get something released. Listening to people involved on the project, they all seem to regret what they did to Spore, all agreeing that they never gave it the opportunity to reach its full potential.
@@iamlordstarbuilder5595 Well that's even more depressing, though I refuse to believe that EA didn't have a hand in persuading Wright to do what he did. EA have been doing this shit to companies for years and years.
In some parallel universe Spore wasn't published by EA and the game was allowed to live up to its potential
and age poorly
RIP spore
I always crack up when he planet busters the newfound civilization.. I can remember first finding out about spore and being so excited and finally playing the final version for hours upon hours. May not have been as awesome as this showcase, but damn did I have a great time in that game.
Thank you for uploading this! A great moment of video game development, a great example of what could have been and an idea born of true high level concept!
And a case study for when an idea is reforged for mass market by a publisher pressuring the studio creating a different product for release....
What could’ve been. After over a decade of continuously playing this game, it feels barren at times. I like to go back to footage of the prototype build and mourn. I really hope more stuff on the prototype build will ever resurface, I’d love to know anything more about my favourite game ever.
Thank you for uploading the remastered version of it, I truely love the idea of this game
Man the reveal of the solar system, you just KNOW everyone's jaw dropped. That's a special kind of magic right there
oh that seems like quite a big deal actually! also god we need people to group up and gather as much information about the games development as possible into one place
Thrive? Creaturesim?
@@xX_Pogromca_Burdeli_Xx thrive and creaturesim are effectively dead
@@blackcat2333 Thrive? Nah
I guess something like Internet Historian's video on No Man's Sky and Fallout
@@xX_Pogromca_Burdeli_Xx I’ve spoken with the developers of Thrive and my god, it’s bad. The game has been rewritten from scratch like twice and the guys in charge have made some questionable design decisions that really make me doubt the future of the game.
I played this game over the years from the time I could barely read but until today I didn't know about this and all the other things that were planned for this game. It's a shame that we didn't get to see some of these things. It's still a good game tho.
same for me, back when i was like 3-4 years old i looooved to play spore. however since i could not read my parents always needed to sit beside me and read to me what i had to do. I am realy suprised how polished the game was in 2005 just 1 year after my birth! It is kind of sad that spore could not fully blosom like it was presented in the video. but i still love spore. i made sooo many great memories thanks to it. especially since it was the first game i ever palyed.
9 years old and I spent my fucking £100 saved pocket money to preorder your fucking Galaxy limited edition; I'll never forget this EA....
LOL. I also remember being so pumped to get my hands on the Galactic Edition. Then I played the game for maybe ~10 or so hours and haven't touched it since. One of the biggest disappointments in PC gaming history.
“Procedurally Generated” - Will Wright, GDC 2005
Man, this was impossible, just impossible tech, im still blown away they got this running on 2005-2008 hardware.
The release was a pale shadow of what should have been, but damn, I still get goosebumps with this whole presentation. God, just imagine what might have been.
@@Urammarscripts don't require powerful pc, only a powerful mind to be able to program something like that xd
@@hanniaedithmartinezadame794will just so happened to be that mind, but that didn’t mean ea saw that potential…
man. We need someone to remake Spore
Elysian eclipse
Adapt
Thrive
@@denifnaf5874 Thrive and Adapt are there own thing really, Thrive wants to be very scientific and Adapt wants to be focused on just the creature stage. Elysian Eclipse wants to be more like spore 2005 than actual released spore, with some things a tad bit more stylized and modern.
19. Years.
NINETEEN!
This makes me sad
Me too 😭
I will never forgive EA.
I think Will’s comments about wanting to create games like Myst sort of made it into the final game with the things that came out of galactic adventures.
Despite the excessive streamlining, Spore still ended up being quite a good and still to this day totally unique game. I particularly really like the cartoonish style, makes the game age less. That said, I do so much wish for a sequel game that gives us more complexity, depth, and even a bit more realism with the gameplay. There's so much potential that won't be touched because unfortunately EA plays it safe and Spore was a risk that didn't pay out as much as they hoped it would.
Thank you so much! It's a great motivation to look back at what was already possible this many years ago.
I want this beta
It still hurts
What did they do to our beautiful boy?
I will never not be angry ❤
I remember waiting years for this game to come out but the sad thing is coming back to watch this today I've realized Im still waiting for this game to come out
we forget but the whole entire thing we all thought spore was going to be was an RTS game like red alert 2 but where you could create the race of the civilization. that got nerfed to having no rts fetaures at al making the creature creator almost pointless. this was during a time when rts games jumped betwen space and ground based titles, think solaris or star wars empire at war
When I was 6 and found out that THIS was what Spore was supposed to be I was so upset... STILL UPSET... But I love the game either way!
God, what I'd do for the galaxy stage Will had crafted back then.
This is gaming history right here
I told my friends I’m watching a press conference, and they thought I was crazy.
They just got the wrong publisher (EA) and then, shit happen...
I fucking miss it
Still wish we could have gotten Will's original vision. Couldn't EA have implemented a sort of "Simulation/Arcade" option for players to choose? Maybe a kid who just wants to eat creatures would hop into the arcade mode where things happen fast and you can basically get to the final stage in a couple hours... or if you have a more serious player who wants to sit down with a cup of coffee and work on their cell creature who they've been slowly building up over 100+ hours can also get their satisfying long-term gameplay.
REMEMBER WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU
I'm still mad.
The amount of times the guy says "umm" in this LOL
Lots of game developers say um a lot when showing off their game. In fact lots of people say um when showing off something.
@@starlingbaez6681 amazing
i love how he went from running away from the Tick, and then hes putting what could be the same tick from before on an unihabitable planet, resulting in the tick exploding
As an idiot kid who didn't knew English, really wishes to play Spore after seeing so much of the Spore trailer and ads on the MSN site that was my start page and saw this at TH-cam in the 2008, I thought they already planning on doing a new sequel to Spore that is much more bloodier and maturer when this video was actually being the total opposite as a prototype. So sad that the early prototype looks so much better than the final product.
greatest demo of all time
As much as I love the Spore we ended up getting, it would have been really cool to see this more realism-inspired version of the game be fully realized. Maybe one day a spiritual successor could try doing that if not even better in the far future.
God this potential was a complete miss, they really could have built the aquatic stage into the creature stage so you could choose to be terrestrial, aquatic or both, and they could’ve built the swimming similarly to how it happens in feed and grow fish, and they could’ve added more to the flying ability, like being able to have a creature mainly built to fly like birds do (by actually gliding and not falling straight down)
they should do Spore 2
One day, I'll make this. I promise you.
From the deepest part of my soul, I trully want this become real
From what I understand understand a lot of creature stage and aquatic stage features wouldn’t work the way they intended, or at least in the time frame they were given. But they didn’t have to change the creature creator! That was completely unnecessary.
It's because they decided to make the game kid friendly, so they had to change the creature creator so you could only make cute animals and did unrealistic and funny animations to attract to kids.
Basically they changed it to be appropriate for its intended demographic. Kinda sad, they were too scared to make a really hard simulator because they thought few people were going to like that, so they went for a bigger target, at the end spore didn't sell well anyway XD
@@hanniaedithmartinezadame794 the creature animation system used in 2005 was changed because it was bad at striking specific poses for conveying emotion, and because it was impossible to use for non-programmers (they needed to get professional animators on board to make a library of procedural animations large enough for an actual playable game)
also i've never understood the hate on the game's humorous animations, there's plenty of silly absurd stuff in this demo as well as in all of maxis' previous games
anyone know what the sounds for the willosaur are based on? some seem to be canines, and others some sort of mix of sounds
22:22 is when the Ford Explorer arrives.
top 10 scariest anime characters
@@AltairBlue Woooooaaaah!
Crazy how this could have been something big instead we got the sims default animations..
sometimews i feel like my dissapointment ruined it for everyone, then i come here and see everyoe on the same shit hahahah
Incredible!... its 2005...
lmfao true time going by too quick
i wish they release some demo version in a future :(
como eu odeio a EA GAMES, o Spore seria um jogo tão complexo se n fosse essa maldita empresa
br ta em tudo nessa poar tbm sifude... Also, also, concordo :D
:( sigh if only we got this game.... not the spewed up garbage that EA gave us....
technically, the gonzagogl prototype can be downloaded which has some similarities, minus the aquatic stage (despite it being before that stage was cut, hmmmmmmm), and a decent amount of models. it's pretty much 2005 but almost no models or textures, just flat colors and some wireframe models. (with a willosaur model hidden in the files, easy to get to)
IF (very big if) someone could edit it easily, it might be able to have some models and a basic editor added, which could kinda resemble the beta more.
has anyone attempted in recreating spore's original vision yet?
Elyssian eclipse
Thrive
care bears in spore
Could you imagine if the source code for this beta version of spore leaked?.... Sure its unfinished, but with our dedicated community, we could finish it the way jt was always meant to be before EA got ahold of it... Combine the beta and final version and create somethign beautiful
So I know that a great majority is underwhelmed with the final release (me included) and wish it was as grand as this demo. But what I don’t understand is why nobody, in well over a decade, ever decided to take the reins and make a new spore-like game?
People have. It’s just that none ever got really popular.
People keeps calling any prototype like this as "BETA" when beta and prototype aren't synonymous. All beta builds are a type of prototypes but not all prototypes are beta. Beta builds are mostly the same as the final product where almost all features are done except testing and lots of bug fixes (which rushed games often skips). The previous alpha stage is when most fundamental features are done and focus on implementing new features. I also heard that this isn't even one real build but consists of smaller prototypes just for this presentation to demonstrate the concept of the game so this isn't even pre-alpha either.
That could mean that the Willosaur model could have already been prepared from the start outside the creation mode and is different from the one Wright created in real time. There's a fully modeled model of the exact same aquatic version of the Willosaur within the files inside one of the prototypes that could be downloaded at the Spore site. There are multiple concept art of Willosaur but I don't know if they were created right after this demo was made. As much as I want to believe this presentation is one full playable program, I think there's actually not much than what's seen here and would be extremely buggy if you don't follow exactly what Wright is doing there.
truc de ouf
Is it a bit sped up or are they just fast speakers?
It's the original speed, I think Will just talks fast. Also make sure you don't have like 1.5x or 2x speed turned on TH-cam.
Единственное что пожалуй стало лучшим решением отказаться от всего того что показано в данном видео, интерфейс
For those who dont know why it is so different from what we got, its because at first spore was thinked to be a really hard simulator, where the mistakes you made in your evolution will affect you for the rest of your journy, the way you build the creature would affect completely its possibility of surviving, you had to think its desing etc. Most of them were scientific persons emulating questions, but then other side of workers started changing spore, they wanted it to be simple, pokemon like, so they made the creature desing cute, the way you build your creature will not affect anything on its survival so you are free to build whatever you want, they did unrealistic and funny animations so it can be more likeble to kids etc. At the end they won, what we see its what spore was originally going to be. Kinda sad it happend xd
this is a common misconception, the "cute team" spiritually led by Chris Hecker was only advocating for a stylized art style. Chris Hecker was the main force behind the game's procedural animation and was pushing for creature designs to have more impact on gameplay, the team just didn't find a way to make that work together with Will's idea that the editor's impact on gameplay should be easily intuitive.
I want to sue EA.
yknow the more I watch these, the more I realize most of the content in the early prototype is just early concept versions of the exact same things we have now, minus a few things that they eventually chose not to add
finally someone else who realized this, it feels like people let their imaginations run wild with the game before release coz Will Wright basically followed his vision for the game, it really didnt change that much, he literally says ”everything before space stage is a tutorial that is a simplified version of other games”
Spore's prototype and the full release is not too different to me. All the game aspects are still there (except aquatic stage, we'll never forget EA). But I don't think the current version of spore is that much worse than this one.
Edit: Space stuff was cut back a lot too.
but, you gotta think about that this is from 2005, so 3 years before spore's release, and if they kept developing and going into this direction for the next 3 years instead of what we got, it would have been really cool
The fact that this is 3 years before its release and its not that different is a big red flag XD
@@hanniaedithmartinezadame794 as will says at the beginning, this demo was "held together by baling wire and duct tape". it wasn't a playable game yet, just a demonstration of the possibilities. none of the game existed yet beyond the isolated setpieces we see here, the aquatic stage in particular had no gameplay besides just undulating around. the supposed perfect 2005 version of the game that EA/Chris Hecker/Will Wright supposedly ruined only ever existed in viewer's imaginations.
The Game Is Still Great Thought, You Can Put a Lot Of Mods To Make Him Even Better!!!!!!!🔥🔥
How to download old version??
you cant, this is a prototype
It's mutch too dangerous, it's a prototype , don't let it overcharge!
Well wdym owercha-
@@denifnaf5874 link please?
@@denifnaf5874portal reference?
@@nakedpear3558 Half-Life reference xD
Maldito EA
so much potential and they ruined it.
He literally had a vision of scaled down development where content is produced by players. This vision didnt come true and instead we keep getting massive and bloated AAA games with huge budgets. This isnt just about the failure of one game, this is about the failure of the entire game industry
Look at Spore now. It's only legacy is as a casual curiosity for really autistic kids who weren't even born when the game came out, and furries. It's a fun and casual game. But it could've been so much more. I still remember the Robin Williams presentation. He really made the game seem fun.
yeah but what about autistic quasi-furries from before it came out
Um you can like Spore with or without autism. Spore isn't specifically for autistic people or furries
Spore wasn't made for furries or some shit, spore was an evolution sim that got influenced too much by EA to the point where it became a "cute" game rather than a science game. Quite tragic honestly, spore could have been so much more than what we got.
This comment kind of bothers me? Autism has nothing to do with one's enjoyment of a game, just 'cuz you're bitter it ended up different than you hoped...
Such a weird comment