@@ChillAssTurtlewhen someone breaks into your home, you don't know if they're trying to rob you or serial kill your 7 year old. Either way, you know they didn't go to all that trouble to wreck your muffins. You have to assume your life is in danger. If you have a gun, you're justified in using it to make sure they don't mrdr you or your loved ones. The inanimate possessions dont factor in when there's a stranger in your home.
No they have the same amount of rights or less. They just don't let that hold them back. And honestly I think most 'decent' people only follow the law out of fear for consequences.
On aba's point about home intruders; I heard someone say "if you shoot an intruder you value your things more than their life" and I also heard someone say "no that means THEY value my things more than their life"
The "you value their things more than their life" is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. No, I value my life more than theirs. I Don't know what intentions they have.
This happened to to me. Gang member forces his way into my home well on the run from the police for a previous assault that day of his partner and his seconed assault of the day ( attacked a man at a liqure store in the early morning ) we get into a fight and he passes away. I get charged with murder. Went to prison, luckily only for a week then spent over a year on house arrest only able to go to work and come home. I get acquitted by a jury in a very quick decision. 8 years later there comming for my legal aid payment. It will have been 13 years since the incident before i will be able to put it all behind me. I have been financially destroyed, and had a year of my life taken all for legally defending myself. The police only care for conviction even if you've done nothing wrong. Good luck to this man from the bottom of my heart.
From the news story I read the 3 other men are still at large, the family is now almost defenseless because they arrested the young man and took his gun, smh. If they come back and harm that family its the authorities fault.
@@nr1NPC because the main point of the cops is to harass the necessary bottom class of people (y'all know what it is) in order for capitalism to keep working (for some) and in doing so provide bodies for the for profit prison system. Modern slave catchers. Stopping crime is a bonus. US Law enforcement stems from slave-hunters and white militia mobs, in case a slave rebellion ever broke out. Obviously their goals have somewhat shifted to be more inclusive to other societal problems like crime but the root is still there.
They've made self defense illegal. Apparently, you're supposed to allow them to assault & rob you, and then hope the police care enough to do an investigation. But God forbid you protect yourself or your loved ones, that's too far. Just let them take all your stuff, that way you can put out more money to replace everything. 🙄🙄🙄
Depends where you live too. I don't care where I live. I'm not conforming to no rules that give me less power and tries to suppress my rights. You try to rob me I'm sending you to meet our maker. 😇🙏🏼
I heard someone say once after a similar incident like this verbatim “Maybe they should move to a safer neighborhood” I’ve never had more of an urge to slap the ever loving shit outta a person.
We do not really have gated communities here and if we do its not the same as the US. Its horrible that you cannot protect yourself in your own home here without getting charged. You may be able to beat the charges but you have to go through that stress of trying to defend yourself.
I think it's funny when people say "well just call the cops". Well this dude got screwed over by em and last time I had to call cops for someone wantin to kill me it took them 3 hrs to get here. And now I got neighbors that lied to a judge, stare down my elderly parents, and swear that I'm the problem.... all while "supporting the 2nd amendment."
@@caralho5237 100%. Also, this goes against the second amendment. People should have guns to defend themselves. The founding fathers actually made the second amendment literally for you to defend yourself against tyrannical gov. Defending yourself against the common punk is just a bonus.
I’m in the UK and I have to say I agree with you. There was a case not far from where I live where an elderly man in his 70s had his home broken into. The 70 year old man killed the assailant with a screwdriver. He was acquitted in the end because the screwdriver he used he took from the assailant, there was a scuffle and he got the screwdriver from the assailant and stabbed him with it. They said if he’d killed him with a weapon he got from his own home, like a knife, then he’d have been charged. Even though the assailant had a weapon and initiated violence. That’s just disgusting. Imagine sending a pensioner to jail for defending his life from an armed robbery.
I urge every Brit to buy 2 solid rottweilers, if you live in an area where self defense laws are shit make sure to own plenty of attack dogs. Anybody breaking in is gonna be carried out in separate bags.
@@CeroAshura in all honesty dude. You don’t really need any of that shit. I’ve lived in the shithole neighbourhoods of my city (my city is the 2nd most densely populated city in the country, only London is more densely populated) and I’ve lived in the nice areas and I’ve honestly never needed any self defence more than keen senses, decent cardio, and/or a small degree of actual fighting training. Shit happens here sure but it’s easier to avoid life threatening danger than a lot of places. You don’t need knives, guns or attack dogs to be safe in your home where I live. And where I live ain’t that great but I own the house. 🤷♂️
@@mobiusraptor7 it’s not a lecture it’s common sense. Look at the statistics which takes the grand scale into account beyond my own experience. The numbers are pretty damn clear buddy. 🤷♂️
@@ReleaseMyKrakken pretty much! If you can’t afford a lawyer, the state provides you one but haha good luck, if you can afford one you are most likely guaranteed a good deal but after paying numerous fees! One way or the other you gonna get screwed
It’s so sad that criminals force you in a horrible situation where you either have to kill or be victimized yourself, and then if you come out on top you face the consequences of being forced to make the decision to pull the trigger.
True dude, i hate how we’ve devolved to giving a rip about people committing illegal acts against you. “Well you shouldn’t have shot him” “Well he shouldn’t have fking attacked me” It doesn’t get dummer than that
@@Dirty_bubs yeah I got sued by a guy who was jumping me because I got him pretty good and had to prove self defense and that I was applying the same amount of force I was getting...I had to explain it was multiple attackers and I was trying to survive...but in the eyes of the law things are not as clear...I was lucky I didn't get jail time for protecting myself. That how unfair our justice system is.... protecting yourself or love ones can be considered criminal...but the actual person(s) who are committing the crime if injured or killed in the act of their crime(s)...they can still be seen as a victim...not saying their isn't valuable but in that moment they have put everyone in the situation in a life or death situation and if they expire it is of their own doing
Prisons can't profit from repeat offenders otherwise, which is why most prisons aren't for rehabilitation. Also why out all of the countries, The States has the most citizens in the jail system.... government/corporations profit.
I just lost my mother. It’s a horrible feeling and she wasn’t murdered. If someone ever tried to put my mom in danger while she was alive and I was there to protect her, they’re good as dead
I just lost my dad a month ago. Shits crazy man. Hard to cope. Feels like a different world now. Hope you're doing ok with the adjustment period. Never expected to be here so soon.
The sad thing is that the person he killed was likely out and committing this robbery because of a court system that is lax on criminals. Someone can start randomly shooting people in a mall food court and they will get a lower sentence that someone daring to defend themselves from that same person would.
I’d do anything for my mom idc if those thieves come they will be in the caskets at the end of the day if I find them in the house trying to rob my mother
Yeah that’s easy. Like wouldn’t give a thought, that is 100% justified. In that situation, I genuinely wish for the sake of the intruder that they did not enter and try to attack my family in our own home, but that has to happen due to the presence of danger from the intruder without provocation
Does anyone have the name of the prosecutor? If you do, please release the information and his office phone number so we can bombard his office with phone calls. I live in ny and our garbage district attorney tried to charge an elderly Bodega owner with murder after defending himself against a career criminal that was assaulting him. After plenty of backlash he dropped the charges because all these cretins care about is keeping their position in office and If they see enough backlash for their moronic and illogical decisions they will react. It's unfortunate that we have to go to these lengths but this is what happens when these parasites are victimized by blm and our bra1ndead woke politicians.
Word, if i had to choose between me being out of jail and my mum being dead or me being in jail and my mum being alive i would choose the latter in a heartbeat
I ain't even surprised anymore in this day and age. That's why I dont believe none of this woke groomer crap as of late; its virtue signaling and girls mess with who they want to irregardless of who else is available. All these laws thinking they're doing what's right when people cant even defend themselves. If Russia is using Ukraine being EDP45 as war propaganda, its because its sensationalism they NEED.
Faced suspension in school multiple times for defending myself from being blatantly wronged. Rather than hearing me out, they labeled me as a troublemaker. I learned very quickly that "authority" has anything but your best interest in mind. The only silver lining from that situation was I became less naive and started questioning the decisions of the so-called "mature adults" in my life. Things are likely only going to get worse. I feel bad for the upcoming generation.
I’m a firearms/self defense instructor, and it always boggles my mind to hear about some laws in certain countries. I’ve never been in a home invasion, but did see a bit of combat overseas, and it’s amazing that civilians are held to such high standards, and are expected to act perfectly in such an intense situation, when trained professionals struggle. I have heard many horror stories from students and colleagues. One of my students ended up in a shooting two years after coming through class. A mugger had his cousin by her hair, and had a knife. He shot the mugger in the head with what essentially was a hostage shot. Despite the mugger beating, and holding a knife to a young woman’s neck, the guy got prosecuted for shooting said mugger. It also sucks that a lot of the communities most effected by these strict laws, are black/minority communities.
I imagine in those situations you'd have to be a "trained professional" but that guy was a regular civilian who more than likely saved his cousin's life. A life was lost and it's unfortunate but it wasn't the life of an innocent person. I get a lot of situations aren't black and white but if you can definitively answer who, what, when, where, and why and it checks that you were defending yourself or someone else from some deplorable scum bag that should be an open and shut case.
Its all a ruse. They use the crime they allow to continually take away freedoms from law abiding citizens to achieve their real goal of abolishing the 2nd amendment. This is why they hard focus on school shootings especially when the guns were legally obtained while doing nothing to protect the schools to further their agenda. Obviously school shootings are tragic cuz innocent children are involved but way more and its not even close, shootings happen around the country from mostly illegally obtained firearms everywhere from street corners, home invasions, clubs (you stepped on my shoes!), and general gang shit that law abiding citizens get caught up in. I dont hear about this shit happening when everybody in the neighborhood legally carries!
@@Sykone4717 I'm sure you're statistically correct in that, but doesn't the strict laws against self defense only demonstrate that the criminals have the upper hand? It seems fucked up to arrest the person defending an innocent in an environment where violent criminals feel they're untouchable.
I live in the U.S and I am attending classes in protecting myself with a handgun. Things are changing where I am increasing my security in the odds of being able to protect myself. I will never beg someone to stop hurting me again, not beg for my life. Police come when 911 is called and usually are responding as the violence is happening.And I don't trust the politicians promoting anti-gun policies when they have security teams protecting them. The guy that protected his mother, I want to give a high-five.
My father is a retired Hwy Patrol Officer. He told us all as kids...if someone ever breaks into your house you shoot them with the mental intent to kill them, that way they can't turn around and sue you. You then go and give your statement like a crying girl saying how shocked you are that something like this could happen to you, you've never experienced it, you feared for your life and the life of your family, you fired only in protection of yourself and your family, you are sorry the bullet killed him, and try to cry to seal the deal.
Reminds of that guy who got sued for his shotgun house trap that shot the intruders leg off and he said he should’ve just aimed the gun higher so he couldn’t sue
The fact that criminals are given rights is beyond me. Break into my house, with intent to cause harm or steal my hard earned property.... then you should be ready to forfeit yourself.
After I was the victim of a violent crime years ago, I did a lot of reading into power dynamics and self defense laws and I realized just how unfair our self-defense laws are for Canadian citizens. The laws are ambiguous on purpose because the Canadian courts want to be able to enforce them when they see fit to keep the population docile. Anyone who still thinks Canadian gun laws are fair is either too sheltered to know better or it doesn't understand they're being manipulated. "Better to be judged by 12 than lowered by 6".
Both Canada and the US have been heading more towards authoritarian means with the current governments and what they've been trying to implement. Unfortunately, since the media (state sponsored in Canada's case, willingly in the US's) is supporting those governments instead of shouting it out, a lot of normies aren't aware. It's becoming a "frog in a pot being brought to boil" scenario.
Aba so right about the aftermath of home invasion. My friend was never the same when she was robbed in her house at gunpoint to her head. Never the same. Anxiety meds and attacks ever since.
Voltaire - 'It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.' This is my favorite quote cause it describes this day and age perfectly
There are too many laws protecting criminals. There's a law in the states that if it's cold outside you aren't allowed to start your car and keep in running, unless the doors are locked. So if your car gets stolen, YOU get a ticket. Even this moronic law of not being able to shoot a home invader is wild. Why would I, an untrained citizen, have to check a list of things prior to defending myself, but cops can shoot people with no context, and get off with a slap on the wrist?
Because cops get protected and have qualified immunity while you don’t, they aren’t even here to protect citizens in America, they have no obligation to remember, and don’t for a second think the cops are your friend
The worst part of a home invasion is the mental effects of knowing someone has broken into your house before. You can never feel safe and comfortable anymore in the one place in the whole world in which you are meant to feel safe.
@TissuePaper yes u always argue that everyone globally should have a pistol and rifle, bare minimum, if it was upt to me every city. Community and village would have heavy weapons and artillery, but this assumes that people have an objective moral paradigm and most people are morally degenerate and can't justify why something is right or wrong to begin with
Did 4 years in prison (in canada) for this exact thing. Was attacked in my home by someone (due to an earlier dispute off the property), was being held down and choked, defended my self, they had brain injuries as a result, I got 4 years in prison. In Canada you have to let them kill you lol its wild.
Heard this before from some of my Canadian friends that you cannot defend yourself without getting charged for the harm done to the perpetrator there. I'm so sorry to hear about your case. Every human should be allowed to defend themselves and their lives
Sorry to hear about your situation. Another terrible part about this is if they harm you; you can only cause as much or less harm back other it’s aggravated/excessive assault. The laws for regular people to protect themselves are protect criminals more than the victims.
Not entirely true. If the person got brain damage from you choking the person, it means he was already unconscious. Which is fair that you got sent to prison. You could have released him, sat on top of him as he was unconscious, knocked him out as soon as he woke up til the police arrived. Its aggravated to keep holding a choke hold when the guy is already out, you can kill him. When he is unconscious he is not a threat. And also the shooting thing, its a really hairy, I do think THAT one is exaggerated, that you cannot shoot them in the moment of heat if they turn around. If you have someone in your aim, and a split second before you fire and he turns his back, then I dont think you deserve prison for that. But the attorneys job is to send you to prison and the jury and judge should have a bit more open mind when it comes to that and think about how it is to be under pressure.
Imagine you scared off the intruders without shooting them because they ran away and three days later they came back while you were at work and murdered your entire family. Because they came back pissed because in their minds you prevented their come up…. Tell me that won’t haunt you for the rest of your days knowing if only you just pulled that trigger and blew the air out their lungs the first time your family would still be here. THE MOMENT SOMEONE STEPS A FOOT INSIDE UNINVITED IT SHOULD BE JUDGEMENT DAY for those scumbags.
But if you shoot the intruders and find out that those intruders who got shot after breaking into someone’s house have people of their own to avenge them the same thing could happen and it would just become a cycle, this is where witnesses protection and cops and guards need to come in to prevent jail time for the victim.
@@TC4loveandlife then be armed and have no friends and family, simple answer to that problem and that's what I do, if people give up there right to defend themselves then I'd rather be a criminal and defend my life
i gotta say, as a person that was chilling on his xbox when my home got broken into. ive spent days and nights tormented because my dad did not understand and did not want to move out that house until one day i just broke down and told him i stay up wondering if theyre just going to come back. Ive had to beg and it was until my sister spoke to me and saw me freaked tf out. as stupid as it was at the time i used to stop what i was doing and "patrol" the house in a sense with my stuff ready in case of anything. Looking back i was ridiculous af but at the time i felt i needed to do it especially since supposedly they were in the neighborhood. Also this experience made me hate cops because they spent more time flirting with my sister than taking my statement seriously. Not being able to feel safe in somewhere you go home every night is one of the worse feelings i could think of. Especially as a kid who was home alone a lot during their high school teen years as my parents were pastors so they were always out (which is another reason why we got robbed, my dad was the type to always keep his door open and invite whoever during preachings) People that never been through it genuinely dont understand the pain. I was only like 13-15ish at the time and it still haunts me to this day and im 27. I dont stay up or wake up due to noises anymore but im paranoid a bit of keeping my house locked down. Im in an entirely different state and it bothers me to this day on a much smaller scale. Of course i joke about it as well now a days and my friend that was on xbox with me at the time jokes with me till this day and its all in good terms but i'd never wish that on nobody.
@@gavinharrison8174 That shit is hilarious. They tell you that "you don't guns" while surrounded by four men with guns. I don't know how they still get voted in with such blatant hypocrisy.
I am so glad I live in Idaho. Similar to Florida, you criminal trespass you can and will get deleted. Any breaking and entering, robbery, rape, or any "violent" crime can get you snuffed.
Agree with Aba. My family was victim of robbery while we were traveling and returning to an empty home was soul crushing. They took everything, even the electrical wires. I'll never forget the despair on the faces of my parents. It took us years to make back what we had. Unfortunately, the perpetrators were never caught. Always secure your house properly friends. Don't rely on neighbors and locked doors only.
This is why I hate the argument it's just stuff you can replace it's not worth killing someone. This tells me these people are only saying this cause it's not their stuff that was taken. My friend had a laptop that he cherished cause his mom used to use that laptop for her job and she gave it to him as a gift since she was sick and could no longer work and she had a picture of himand her as her wallpaper and he never changed it unfortunately that was the last gift she gave him. Well one day he comes home from a trip and finds his windows busted open and he found most of his stuff gone but most importantly they took his mothers laptop and he was crushed. Luckily the guy that stole it was a moron and since my friend lives in a old house the guy assumed he didn't have cameras and barely covered his face. So the police found him and managed to find out who he sold the laptop to and after explaining to them what happened and why that laptop means so much to him they gave it back to him and even offered to help him to better secure his house.
I couldn’t imagine coming home after a long day and finding the belongings I worked hard for just gone. I hope you and your family heals and those perpetrators burn. I’m so sorry.
Might sound unreasonable but maybe don't leave the house alone. If someone has to take a vacation, someone should take the responsibility to stay. Presence deters, vacancy welcomes.
The fact that he was using self defense on intruders who was breaking into his home and still faces murder chargers for using self defense on them just shows how messed up his situation is for defending himself and protecting the mom.
In my country it's basically the same. Just checked the law, makes it very hard to defend yourself legally even in your own home. These are the main points needed for self defense to be considered valid, i translated em to english best i can, should be accurate enough i think. 1- You should have no other avenue than to defend yourself (So basically you should strive to run away from your own home and avoid the invader.) 2- The force used in defense should be in proportion with the attacker (Can't be using a knife vs fists, or gun vs knife etc., gotta duel it out fairly.) 3- Defense should take place at the same time as the attack (Can't take action to preemptively defend yourself, to prevent yourself from being hurt, just because you think someone will attack you, even if in your own home.) Ofc, this is just the law, how it really applies in court is generally arbitrary and up to the judge, and the defendant can plead about their state of fear, excitement, haste at the moment etc., which affects the decision.
@@N0xiety guy was outnumbered 4 to 1 and they had at least 2 guns so he was was outgunned, his and his mothers life was in immediate danger and they *still* charged him.
I agree 100%. I know of a guy who had a guy break into his home and warned him before he came through the door he was armed. The intruder kept puching so the home owner shot him in the legs with a shot gun so the intruder lived. The home owner was charged with assault. Welcome to Canada don't expect justice here.
Great reset. If a citizen is brave enough to fight a home invader they will fight against authority. Their rights to hold firearms are forever removed after demonstrating they will retaliate.
Not just that. If they get hurt in your home, be it from a trap you placed(doesn't matter if it's a mouse trap that was intended for a mouse) or a loose floorboard, you have to pay the guy that broke into your house. It's so ridiculous
The reason is Canada does not have privatized prisons. So it cost the province extra cash to fund the jail system. It is also partially the reason why we no longer have insane asylums. It all comes down to funding.
We had an incident in the UK years ago when an old man was being held by a robber with a sharpened screwdriver, the guy ended ho stabbing the robber and killing him and these animals were trying to prosecute him with murder but public outcry ended up forcing them to drop it.
Here in Australia, if someone breaks into your house, even if they’re committing a crime, and you injure them in self defence. You can get charged criminally. Even worse, if they slip on a hazard, they can then sue you. Crazy bruh.
This is why Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws are so important. It’s not about just randomly shooting anyone you want, it’s about protecting your right to defend yourself without fear of being prosecuted for being a victim
This is why no one trusts increasing gun control laws in the US. Canada shows how foolish they can become. We can't even ban TikTok without overstepping citizens' privacy. It's so frustrating. 🤬
Sorry Stand your ground is BS. Ask police how many ppl use that law just to shoot people. Thats why alot of police advocate groups have actually requested that law be redefined.
@@123abcdancewithme it depends on your laws. A number of states in the US have stand your ground laws and in those instances you can use deadly force legally to defend yourself and your property. I think these guys are in Canada which has become super oppressive in these situations.
All this teaches me is that if I had to choose to either: be the homeowner with a gun or the robber, I should choose to be the actual criminal. I might as well just start breaking into houses, hoping that someone has a gun and doesn't fatally wound me so that I can take them to court for daring to protect themselves....
Hell nah you’re acting like somebody give af about the law when it comes to someone breaking into their house tf 💀💀 Imma have to take the charge you not breaking into my shit
You might actually be safe if you just break in, steal stuff and actually live there. Sounds like they can't 'defend themselves' from you if you are just chilling on the couch
No, don't do ANY of that, because all you would be doing is playing into the leftist narrative of creating more chaos for society. Which is what they want.
My dad's in law enforcement and he's said this multiple times that these laws only negatively affects law-abiding citizens because criminals are already committing crimes, they already don't care about breaking the law. It's insane how people get punished for rightfully defending themselves and others but the criminals have more rights than the victim. In Maryland they have that problem and I'm living in the UK, so it's a different country with different laws mind you, but they also have absurd self-defense laws here.
Why is this even a topic of conversation? The fact that someone even broke into my home to commit armed robbery puts me and my family in danger. Their life is indeed forfeit at that exact moment they break into the door and through the threshold. I'm not waiting to see if they surrender or not.
In certain states there's castle doctrine and stand your ground laws. If anyone enters you're domain (house / even car in certain states or situations) you have the right to protect yourself / others using deadly force - point blank period. Now you might still be arrested depending on the circumstances pending an investigation (for instance if they weren't armed to the same degree) - but legally in those states so long as you are protecting yourself / others within that domain from assault, deadly force is legal. You can also shoot people in the back, contrary to popular belief (threat doesn't end because someone's back is turned - they can always shoot at you while running away). What becomes questionable is if the threat has been abated and you continue to pursue or attack them then, you are liable for at a minimum assault with a deadly weapon, manslaughter or obviously even a murder charge.
Every time I'm on the internet and I see stuff like this it seems as if gun laws/self-defense laws are more in favor of criminals than they are for regular folks.
@@ChickenJoe12 i cant imagine having an armed intruder break in, and you scrambling to unlock safe #1 and then run to safe #2 and unlock that and hurriedly put the gun together like as if the intruder is just gonna watch and wait for you to get ready
Looking into recent self defense cases in Canada I came across the sad case of Yosif Al-Hasnawi. I'm actually disgusted at how our our legal system can fail so spectacularly. Aba N Preach should do a video on it if they haven't already.
What has this case to do with being prosecuted for self defense? It sounds like it was about someone killed because of intervening in an assault. Shitty situation, but an entirely different situation..?
@@braindecay9477 Self defense includes defending people in your general vicinity, because it's in your self interest to keep them alive so the fker doesn't come after you next
I was a juror on a, criminal breaking and entering case. That day I learned (at least in California) that you have to let the person who broke into your house, you have to give them, the opportunity to leave before you act. It's pretty wild. Sat there for almost an hour as a judge meticulously read the law. It's wild.
California and New Jersey are the most pathetic anti-American and anti-consitution states in the country. State governments should not be allowed to essentially neuter constitutional amendments.
I don't see how a corpse could argue that you didnt warn them to leave ? What asinine nonsense. It's ridiculous to think you owe a dirt bag who doesn't value human life all kinds of consideration and leeway.
Then you realize that that law is screwed and you decide too side with the home owner regardless of the law. That's jury nullification and people need to know what it is and to stick to their guns even if 11 other jurists are pressuring you too convict an innocent person because they want to go home.
@@franklugo6928 I don’t know about innocent. Well, if a person broke the law, by definition they‘re not innocent. That’s the beauty of jury nullification though, sometimes legal guilt is justifiable and shouldn‘t be punished. Gotta love it!
@@noname-xo1bt I don't foresee the 2nd Amendment ever being overturned. Even if the government tried, many states would just outright refuse to enforce it.
@@chico9805 Depends, anything can happen. If there were a mentality change in the future generations of the the nation, it is feasible that the 2A could be repealed or amended. As unrealistic as that may sound for the near future.
My uncle got a call from a neighbor while at work. Said there was a moving truck in his driveway. Immediately left, saw his furry friend on the garage floor motionless. Pulled, entered, man #1 approached from around corner, done. Ears ringing, but can hear that man #2 escaped through the back door. Calls emergency services. Officers arrive. Officer #1 coaches my uncle on exactly what to say once the detective arrives. I’m thankful that happened, because he certainly did make mistakes. But no one is perfect, and you never know what you’d do in such a scenario. Especially upon seeing your 4 legged relative is no longer with you. Mind you, this was 30 years ago, and in the US.
@@spile225 You from North America? How can someone from here support the Russians? No free speech, freedom of press, right to bear arms, even right to land ownership with natural resources. I don’t trust people that are not free. And if you aren’t from North America, and are Russian or a Russian supporter, why are you using TH-cam? Or Microsoft Windows and/or macOS? Android or iOS on your phone. FaceBook, Instagram, Twitter, Twitch, Discord, Snapchat, etc etc. All American. We don’t use Russian trash, so why do you use ours? Edit: Also, what point are you referring to? You an imbecile? I wasn’t making a point. No argument. Was simply telling a personal and true story relevant to the topic in the video.
A high risk sex offender recently moved into our neighborhood and it dawned on me that you have a better chance of getting approved for a home being a sex offender than having an eviction and that's the nastiest realization I've had this year. Laws are great they keep order etc but often times they end up hurting innocent individuals more.
@@funkyfreshkid08 Oh I know, they just never actually go through the trouble of mailing everyone in the area, thus I'm surprised they did with you because I had to find out the hard way why a guy was driving around my property eyeing my sisters with a look I can say was disgusting, only to find out from his next door neighbour, not the police that "Oh yeah, he's been molesting kids for 30-40 years"
@@ReikerForge Molesting kids for 30-40 years and he was still a free man living amongst society. If that doesn't speak about how f'd up the justice system is, idk what does.
Canada's (my country) self defense laws are a joke, the fact that I basically have to let someone have the first punch before I can do anything physical to defend (equal force so you can only use fists if they are using fists, knives if they are using knives, etc) is ridiculous, and honestly makes no sense as if you are physically weaker; you have almost no chance at a positive outcome. The deck is literally stacked against you, house always wins.
Let alone just stand by as someone breaks and enters into your home not knowing what their intention is. It's ridiculous, any sane person would want to protect themselves and their family.
@@Lol-ww8xd I always think about the story in the UK where some psycho broke into a lady's house and murdered her while she was talking to her husband on the phone, I think her kids were there too. I guess she should have just retreated so that the psycho could hunt her in the open. Who decided that criminals should have more right to safety than the innocent? Boggles the mind.
Not only that but your self-defence must be “proportional” to the force of your attacker. So you have prosecutors who try to argue that the person who tried to defend themselves didn’t use the same force as their attacker and they should be charged. Which is INSANE, what the FUCK does “proportional force” even mean when you’re in the heat of the moment?
Most people have no experience with such situations and they are in panic mode when something like this happens. If they make a mistake according to the "law", they go to prison for it and their life is ruined. Yet, if the criminal hadn't created the situation their life would go on normally. There is no logical reason to charge the victim, in fact, it appears criminal in nature to charge them with a crime. Because of working in dangerous places I have been in these situations a handful of times, yet I am sure that if the situation came up again it would still be difficult to avoid some level of panic. I don't live in the US now and the country I live in has laws against having a gun despite a high crime rate (not surprising). Having a family, a single family home and being seen as a foreigner (assumed to have money by locals) obviously puts me in a situation in which I must have a reasonable strategy for dealing with trouble. I cannot predict all situations but I can minimize possibilities. That said, I have recently come up with a new strategy for anyone that may try to get in my house. Spear guns are not illegal (the underwater things) and I would prefer to wound someone badly outside my house and have them drug off by their partners in crime to die elsewhere or whatever. They won't go to the police and report they got hurt trying to break into my home. Here nearly all houses have security bars on the windows and doors, mine included, so trying to get into a home takes at least a few minutes and is a noisy process. I have not acquired a spear gun and may not because there are cheaper homemade tools that would be easy to construct, easy to disassemble and more powerful (youtube shows many ways to construct such tools). Certainly, I prefer a gun (like I always had in the US) but if for any reason the cops came in my house and found it,,, I would be off to prison.
My mom's house was broken into. Thankfully she wasn't home. But she did get scared living alone. I left a good job to move back home to be with her. I don't regret it. But you do have these feelings of violation afterward. It's an ugly feeling.
My husband grew up in Canada. I thought that it was a wonderful country and it is but when I realized how soft on crime they are I was disgusted. Canada does not punish criminals and they let them out very easily.
@@GoulagInamte777 Some U.S. cities are starting to get relaxed on crime due to jail overcrowding and a broken police system that ruins the lives of many people. Our "justice" is also applied very unevenly due to racial bias and finances BUT it still stands that on a base level the US is much tougher on crime than Canada.
Yeah its like this in Norway, several stories where intruders got called and emergency service operators tell the homeowner to let the intruder go since he wasnt «a threat anymore». You cant ever prove you were in at risk of dying for self protection and not get imprisoned. Doesnt help that the police are lazy and slow af to come when needed.
Yeeeeaah I'll deal with the threat completely, and then let a lawyer plead my case later. What I'm not about to do is sit there worrying about what the fine print says while I or my loved ones are in danger.
This has to be the most frightening trend right now. People deserve the right to defend their loved ones and property. No prosecution is deserved on their part.
It INFURIATES me hearing about cases like these . It’s so unpatriotic to trial someone for DEFENDING themselves and the judges who don’t dismiss the case after reading the details should be exonerated . Shame shame shame to how much violent crime has been rising and Americas politicians are worried about eliminating the ability for responsible owners to defend themselves properly .
Aba: your self defense claim is so incredibly well spoken. Truly to my own heart. Ive said this for years. If break i to someone’s house, your life is forfeit.
that is not a good idea..what can happen is that for example you and i have dinner in your house, you shoot me dead and say to the police i attacked you. What you say is not thought out, and incredible dangerous. Aba is wrong...lets hope he never has a girlfriend over in his house, and she shoots him dead while saying he graped me.
I was on a grand jury for a similar case. 4 dudes stalked a house, tried to break in when one of the homeowners started to fight back. The brother of the homeowner, who was in the basement at the time, heard the commotion and ran upstairs with a gun. The burglars ran away as the homeowner fired warning shots. One of the shots struck one of the robbers and killed him. Now the owner was indicted for murder
As it should be. Thats Justice...Wait, not quite. If they threw the Judge, the Bailiffs, the Prosecuter and Officer into Jail, THEN it is Justice... Poor Man, being held to a Standard, that no Civilian should ever Face. I just hope,that hes ok, mentally speaking.
The part where he messed up is when he left the basement to go find the intruders. In most castle doctrine states without stand your ground laws, you are generally required to retreat to the farthest point that you are able to, and only then you can justify the use of deadly force whe you feel your life is in danger. This is taught in every firearms safety course in existence as well. Also, you never fire warning shots. If you fire upon someone it should always be with the intent of killing/neutralizing the threat.
They were retreating...this is the exact reason you don't fire unless absolutely necessary...a warning shot is not a defensive act its a threat. Who are the only people who give warning shots is shit like the coast guard and navy and that's because of international interest. 90%(not an actual statistic) of people will probably run when a firearm is simply branished...that's actually most self defenses. Not even a shot fired.
With the craziness going on in the world nowadays there is zero reason to believe that anyone breaking into your house isn't going to kill you anyway after robbing you. I'll risk 10 years behind bars rather than 6 feet under.
In the US most states allow for yoy to defend yourself and your property. Its insanely dystopian that some governments try to penalize and prosecute people who try to defend themselves and their families
Most, true. But it was in the south that I was told that if someone ever breaks in, shoot with intent to kill. Don't let them get back up and turn it around on you. So it happens here too, unfortunately.
I would gladly go to jail in that situation, I'd tell the judge straight up what I did and I'd have no regrets at all, no remorse in my heart for defending my loved ones.
Id love to see these judges in this situation. These laws are so backwards. No one has the right to tell someone u cant defend your own or your loved ones lives against attackers, its insane! 🤬
Isn't it so wonderful and utopian how we protect criminals against these heinous home owners who would DARE to keep and bear arms to defend themselves and their loved ones. The NERVE of these people who want to save their own lives and the lives of those they love. /S
People who want to protect their family and possessions from theives and killers are such narcissistic fascist and only care about their rights how selfish
It’s similar in Australia where the homeowner can only use equal force. It’s absolutely crazy. There is absolutely no way the police will come in time when all of this is happening in a split second - yet, the homeowner is expected to handle it with complete experienced, practised, military precision.
It’s mind boggling to me. Hell, even if the police was already in your own home, it would still take them longer to come to you than the amount of time it will take for you to make a life or death decision.
well it makes it harder to fight back after they have already bash/stabbed or shot you first, not to mention they nearly always have the advantage of surprise because they are the attacker.
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This reminds me of a story here in Ireland. An old man who lived alone was constantly being threatened by these two known criminals and they broke into his house a few times. The man went to the police but they didn’t do anything. He got so paranoid that he slept in his cold barn instead of his home. One day the the men came and broke into his house and he was in his shed with a gun. He went to his house and confronted the two men. He shot one guy in the house and he died and then the other guy ran away and the old man shot him in the back while he was running away and was already out on the road. The old man was charged with murder and put in prison. It’s a weird situation because these men were tormenting him for a while so he knew he’d come back if he got away but on the other hand he had ran away and was running away on a public road when he shot him and killed him.
I don't know if it's changed but down here in Atlanta, if someone comes on property and you feel your life is at risk this would fall under self protection. Hell I've heard cases were people don't even see an hour of jail time for this kinda thing.
That law is written so they can charge no matter the circumstances. There is no self defense in Canada. It's all at the whims of whatever mood a prosecutor is in at the moment. And we are getting worse here in the US too. Prosecutors letting violent criminals go and then going after people who defend themselves. It's a damn mess.
Can’t give this enough thumbs-up.. We see time and time again prosecutors here in the states letting repeat offenders go on bond even for charges like murder, just letting them back on the streets to to back to doing exactly what they were doing before despite having a long and violent criminal history. But when someone defends themselves or someone else from those same violent criminals the prosecutor will find every way possible to keep them locked up and fighting against the charges for possibly years. It’s so fucking backwards. They don’t want people to defend themselves from the criminals that THEY keep putting back on the streets, they want us to be scared to protect ourselves and reliant on the government for protection, which they can’t actually provide, so that they have all the power. Because unlike the criminals that they keep letting out, we try to follow and obey the laws, so they use the law to scare us by going after those who defend themselves to send a message to the rest of us. It’s insane.
Thats why it's important to know your state laws..states that honor castle doctrine plays a huge factor..I don't live in Canada but man, that sounds terrible that a law abiding citizen has to worry about saving their loved ones
Preach was spitting. I have had this conversation with so many people, and you will not believe how many have disagreed with me on the grounds that those criminals are just trying to feed themselves. God save us.
Since when criminals are concidered as "protected class" rather than law abiding citizens!? A guy broke into a house attacked a guys mother when he broke into a house he forfited his life privilege
I dont think I've ever heard crimicals called a protected class? By who? I think this just shows how out of touch these lawmakers, with private security, are.
@@Izaz-ke7dt they don't get called it, but its what they are, at least in some areas of the USA. For example in San Francisco, someone can openly steal from a store, and the cops won't come for anything less then a couple thousand in damages. DA will refuse to press charges if they are arrested and even if there's been an assault or something will usually drop felonies down to misdemeanors. There was one case where a pedo after being arrested claimed he was a woman, and because he had been arrested originally when he was 17 (then Covid happened), when they finally got around to him a year or two later and convicted him, he was put in JuVee with underage women "because he was a transwoman and the original charge had been from when he was a minor". Meanwhile, you try defending yourself and yours in these areas and the cops will come around to arrest you
There is no fighting without movement. There is no guarantee that turning around and running away isn't just strategic repositioning. Not taking chances with my families lives under any and all circumstances, ESPECIALLY when I'm out numbered.
Facts, and I speak for every good man here when I say this, but I am ready willing and able to defend my family by any means necessary. If you're not willing to protect the family that YOU have started, then in my eyes you're not a man and you don't deserve to have a family.
I guarantee the individual who is having the charges pressed against him would still do the same thing now. If my choice is between burying my mother or spending some time in jail, the choice is an easy one.
As a Canadian hearing this, I was actually surprised to hear that he was arrested after shooting an INTRUDER in his home only once. I wasn't aware of the gun laws either so thanks for that insight. Free my man!
@@Kyle11011 Y'all can do something about that, and I don't mean anything violent or illegal btw, but you can restructure your gov from the ground up by getting like minded local people in power and getting word about injustice like this out. A man defending his home and loved ones would not have been seen as criminal in Canada 30+ years ago.
If someone breaks into your house here, even using a baseball bat or any kind of weapon at all is illegal if the robber doesn’t have a weapon. It’s called “equal force”. Wouldn’t want to make it unfair for the burglars!
So his options were 1)unjustly spend time in jail, but see his mom again when released or 2) unjustly doing time for self defense, but come out after his moms funeral. Glad he chose the first option
"If you try to rob someone's house, your life is forfeit." Say less. I agree 100%
Self defense is a human right. No government has the power to rescind our inherent rights. Any government that thinks they can, is wrong.
@@channel_no_longer_active but they smashed my muffins, i had to avenge my honor.
To intruders: You valued my belongings more than your own life. 🤷🏽♂️
The owner of the house doesn't know if you're armed or not, they're definitely not taking that chance either.
@@ChillAssTurtlewhen someone breaks into your home, you don't know if they're trying to rob you or serial kill your 7 year old. Either way, you know they didn't go to all that trouble to wreck your muffins. You have to assume your life is in danger. If you have a gun, you're justified in using it to make sure they don't mrdr you or your loved ones. The inanimate possessions dont factor in when there's a stranger in your home.
It's sad to see that law abiding citizens have less rights than criminals
That's the government for you 🤦
No they have the same amount of rights or less. They just don't let that hold them back. And honestly I think most 'decent' people only follow the law out of fear for consequences.
@@lakkakka so theyre scum. Got it.
@Parker Poops can't blame him tho, since everyone loves to make jokes on California
In Australia we have had since they took our guns.
On aba's point about home intruders;
I heard someone say "if you shoot an intruder you value your things more than their life" and I also heard someone say "no that means THEY value my things more than their life"
The "you value their things more than their life" is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. No, I value my life more than theirs. I Don't know what intentions they have.
I do value my things more than their life fuck them.
He did nothing wrong.
You forfeit your membership of life breaking into someone's property in my opinion. 🤷🏽♂️
Just imagine if we said this to a victim of rape😳...
This happened to to me. Gang member forces his way into my home well on the run from the police for a previous assault that day of his partner and his seconed assault of the day ( attacked a man at a liqure store in the early morning ) we get into a fight and he passes away. I get charged with murder. Went to prison, luckily only for a week then spent over a year on house arrest only able to go to work and come home. I get acquitted by a jury in a very quick decision. 8 years later there comming for my legal aid payment. It will have been 13 years since the incident before i will be able to put it all behind me. I have been financially destroyed, and had a year of my life taken all for legally defending myself. The police only care for conviction even if you've done nothing wrong. Good luck to this man from the bottom of my heart.
Don't blame it on the police. blame it where it belongs, the liberal scum that pass these anti-safety laws.
Damn what?!? You’re in Canada too?
Sorry to hear but glad you’re alive
"As a civilian, you have to know exactly how to act under pressure, which the police don't know how to" Preach was preaching.
This is true.
But everyone giving their take, I would like to ask them if they know WHY the law is like this?
@@nr1NPC because a bunch of charlatans run our government. welcome to canada
From the news story I read the 3 other men are still at large, the family is now almost defenseless because they arrested the young man and took his gun, smh. If they come back and harm that family its the authorities fault.
@@nr1NPC because the main point of the cops is to harass the necessary bottom class of people (y'all know what it is) in order for capitalism to keep working (for some) and in doing so provide bodies for the for profit prison system. Modern slave catchers. Stopping crime is a bonus. US Law enforcement stems from slave-hunters and white militia mobs, in case a slave rebellion ever broke out. Obviously their goals have somewhat shifted to be more inclusive to other societal problems like crime but the root is still there.
You mean Aba?
Prosecutors going after people who defend themselves in their own home need to be fired.
They do.
The love of money is the root of all evil
Follow the money.
I have a different idea what should be done to them. But ya sure I guess them being fired will work
They are helping our countries enemies by protecting our countries criminals they need to be tried for treason.
It's insane you can go to prison because you're defending yourself & loved ones on *YOUR* property from danger! 😑
I got a fine for defending myself against someone who broke into my house, apparently they got rid of self defense in CT..
Blame the Dems.
But the Canadian PM is allowed to wear Black Face
@@erikasmith8894 This was in Canada...
Even in America you can’t shoot in defense of property.
They've made self defense illegal.
Apparently, you're supposed to allow them to assault & rob you, and then hope the police care enough to do an investigation.
But God forbid you protect yourself or your loved ones, that's too far. Just let them take all your stuff, that way you can put out more money to replace everything. 🙄🙄🙄
That’s what it’s like in the UK. Criminals can do what they like and you have to bend over and take it up the tailpipe.
I'd rather be a criminal and protect my life then, screw the p3d0fi13s that rule us, there laws are meaningless to me
Depends where you live too. I don't care where I live. I'm not conforming to no rules that give me less power and tries to suppress my rights. You try to rob me I'm sending you to meet our maker. 😇🙏🏼
If someone breaks in to rob you. You have to assume they will kill you.
You have challenge them to an honorable dual at sunrise with sabers, as the founding fathers intended.
I heard someone say once after a similar incident like this verbatim “Maybe they should move to a safer neighborhood” I’ve never had more of an urge to slap the ever loving shit outta a person.
Lmao the "safe" neighbourhoods are always the target, criminals rely on people having a false sense of security given by "Nice areas"
How bout move into a neighborhood where you can legally shoot somebody who breaks into your house.
Actually safe neighborhoods cost money people often don’t have in order to occupy that space. I understand the urge to slap that person.
Even the police rob the citizens, what do we expect when the middle class slowly disappears?
It's the same line of thinking as asking a rape victim what they were wearing
This is what happens when laws are made by people who live in their safe/gated communities.
no. when laws are made to make sure ALL UR BALLS ARE CUT OFF. u cant take charge off ur life...u mist depend on the state for everything.
Exactly
We do not really have gated communities here and if we do its not the same as the US. Its horrible that you cannot protect yourself in your own home here without getting charged. You may be able to beat the charges but you have to go through that stress of trying to defend yourself.
I think it's funny when people say "well just call the cops". Well this dude got screwed over by em and last time I had to call cops for someone wantin to kill me it took them 3 hrs to get here. And now I got neighbors that lied to a judge, stare down my elderly parents, and swear that I'm the problem.... all while "supporting the 2nd amendment."
Facts
Self defense is a human right. No government has the power to rescind our inherent rights. Any government that thinks they can, is wrong.
Why is this turtle guy everywhere
They're not just wrong. Anyone who thinks self defense is wrong is either ill intentioned or dangerous
@@randomhuman2595 unemployed
Canada and Canadians have been under this delusion for too long.
@@caralho5237 100%. Also, this goes against the second amendment. People should have guns to defend themselves. The founding fathers actually made the second amendment literally for you to defend yourself against tyrannical gov. Defending yourself against the common punk is just a bonus.
I’m in the UK and I have to say I agree with you. There was a case not far from where I live where an elderly man in his 70s had his home broken into. The 70 year old man killed the assailant with a screwdriver. He was acquitted in the end because the screwdriver he used he took from the assailant, there was a scuffle and he got the screwdriver from the assailant and stabbed him with it. They said if he’d killed him with a weapon he got from his own home, like a knife, then he’d have been charged. Even though the assailant had a weapon and initiated violence. That’s just disgusting. Imagine sending a pensioner to jail for defending his life from an armed robbery.
That's insane!!!
I urge every Brit to buy 2 solid rottweilers, if you live in an area where self defense laws are shit make sure to own plenty of attack dogs. Anybody breaking in is gonna be carried out in separate bags.
@@CeroAshura in all honesty dude. You don’t really need any of that shit. I’ve lived in the shithole neighbourhoods of my city (my city is the 2nd most densely populated city in the country, only London is more densely populated) and I’ve lived in the nice areas and I’ve honestly never needed any self defence more than keen senses, decent cardio, and/or a small degree of actual fighting training. Shit happens here sure but it’s easier to avoid life threatening danger than a lot of places. You don’t need knives, guns or attack dogs to be safe in your home where I live. And where I live ain’t that great but I own the house. 🤷♂️
@@mobiusraptor7 it’s not a lecture it’s common sense. Look at the statistics which takes the grand scale into account beyond my own experience. The numbers are pretty damn clear buddy. 🤷♂️
@@MrShadez810 Again, that's your area. Not everyone lives in London.
I'd want a jury trial. No way you get convicted. There's got to be at least one person who is sympathetic to protecting his own mother
No such thing as jury trial in Quebec lol and it’s stupid because they should
@@Mrbigmike311 for real? So it's just a judge and prosecutor?
@@ReleaseMyKrakken pretty much! If you can’t afford a lawyer, the state provides you one but haha good luck, if you can afford one you are most likely guaranteed a good deal but after paying numerous fees! One way or the other you gonna get screwed
@@Mrbigmike311 appreciate the info. I had no idea. That's ridiculous. Cause a case like this, 12 people. Hung jury at minimum.
What judge is going to convict this man to prison. Pretty sure the judge will let him go.
It’s so sad that criminals force you in a horrible situation where you either have to kill or be victimized yourself, and then if you come out on top you face the consequences of being forced to make the decision to pull the trigger.
On top of the emotional damage of taking another’s life, whether it be a criminal or not.
True dude, i hate how we’ve devolved to giving a rip about people committing illegal acts against you. “Well you shouldn’t have shot him”
“Well he shouldn’t have fking attacked me”
It doesn’t get dummer than that
@@Dirty_bubs the inmates are running the asylum pretty much.
@@Dirty_bubs yeah I got sued by a guy who was jumping me because I got him pretty good and had to prove self defense and that I was applying the same amount of force I was getting...I had to explain it was multiple attackers and I was trying to survive...but in the eyes of the law things are not as clear...I was lucky I didn't get jail time for protecting myself. That how unfair our justice system is.... protecting yourself or love ones can be considered criminal...but the actual person(s) who are committing the crime if injured or killed in the act of their crime(s)...they can still be seen as a victim...not saying their isn't valuable but in that moment they have put everyone in the situation in a life or death situation and if they expire it is of their own doing
Prisons can't profit from repeat offenders otherwise, which is why most prisons aren't for rehabilitation. Also why out all of the countries, The States has the most citizens in the jail system.... government/corporations profit.
I just lost my mother. It’s a horrible feeling and she wasn’t murdered. If someone ever tried to put my mom in danger while she was alive and I was there to protect her, they’re good as dead
RIP ur mother. Hope ur doing ok
I'm sorry for your loss. I'm praying for your heart to heal x
I just lost my dad a month ago. Shits crazy man. Hard to cope. Feels like a different world now. Hope you're doing ok with the adjustment period. Never expected to be here so soon.
I'm sorry for your loss. Hope you have or find good support through these days.
Yep. Worth jail time
The fact that self-defense even needs to be argued in court is beyond ridiculous.
You are seeing it backwards, they are deciding if the event was in fact self-defense, not if selfe-defense is a valid excuse.
Which it was.
@@AnotherInternetBlip You must not have read my comment very well. Try again, slowly. Sound out any words you don't understand.
@@AnotherInternetBlipu should have every right to delete someone from breaking into your house. if you think different then what is your addres??
@@AnotherInternetBliplearn to read
2A
I’d rather go to jail for defending my home than put my loved ones or myself in danger. It’s unfortunate tho that it has to be this way…
Having done it myself, it's worth the time you lose if you save the rest of the time you have with yourself or your loved ones
It doesn't have to be this way. Remember when people used to revolt? Good times
That's your government's not protecting its citizens.
We allow it to be this way with our inaction. Folks should protest and free this man. Call the Governor and complain, they can pardon folks right
trust me you wouldn't rather go to jail for 15 + years try doing 30 days then write this again
I don't think I've ever seen two people agree with each other more aggressively.
This is why i love them xD
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You shouldn’t have to tip-toe around a real Friend/Family.
lmao
@@G4yah I don't think they are tip toeing I think they are having a passionate conversation.
the fact they are saying he should be charged is so out of this world....
he should be free, and give a medal.
White liberals… they are so far out of reality. How are they able to make these decisions for us?
Good luck to the man who saved his life and his mother. It's better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6.
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I‘d rather go to jail for protecting my home and my mom than someone harming or even killing me or my mom in OUR home.
The sad thing is that the person he killed was likely out and committing this robbery because of a court system that is lax on criminals. Someone can start randomly shooting people in a mall food court and they will get a lower sentence that someone daring to defend themselves from that same person would.
I’d do anything for my mom idc if those thieves come they will be in the caskets at the end of the day if I find them in the house trying to rob my mother
Yeah that’s easy. Like wouldn’t give a thought, that is 100% justified. In that situation, I genuinely wish for the sake of the intruder that they did not enter and try to attack my family in our own home, but that has to happen due to the presence of danger from the intruder without provocation
Does anyone have the name of the prosecutor? If you do, please release the information and his office phone number so we can bombard his office with phone calls. I live in ny and our garbage district attorney tried to charge an elderly Bodega owner with murder after defending himself against a career criminal that was assaulting him. After plenty of backlash he dropped the charges because all these cretins care about is keeping their position in office and If they see enough backlash for their moronic and illogical decisions they will react. It's unfortunate that we have to go to these lengths but this is what happens when these parasites are victimized by blm and our bra1ndead woke politicians.
Word, if i had to choose between me being out of jail and my mum being dead or me being in jail and my mum being alive i would choose the latter in a heartbeat
It's amazing how self defense not only is punishied in schools but now is being punished in the real world.
Yeah talk about red flags for the future
The way you raise kids sticks with them when they become voting adults
Because you can’t control a person who’s willing to fight back
I ain't even surprised anymore in this day and age. That's why I dont believe none of this woke groomer crap as of late; its virtue signaling and girls mess with who they want to irregardless of who else is available. All these laws thinking they're doing what's right when people cant even defend themselves. If Russia is using Ukraine being EDP45 as war propaganda, its because its sensationalism they NEED.
Faced suspension in school multiple times for defending myself from being blatantly wronged. Rather than hearing me out, they labeled me as a troublemaker. I learned very quickly that "authority" has anything but your best interest in mind. The only silver lining from that situation was I became less naive and started questioning the decisions of the so-called "mature adults" in my life. Things are likely only going to get worse. I feel bad for the upcoming generation.
I’m a firearms/self defense instructor, and it always boggles my mind to hear about some laws in certain countries. I’ve never been in a home invasion, but did see a bit of combat overseas, and it’s amazing that civilians are held to such high standards, and are expected to act perfectly in such an intense situation, when trained professionals struggle.
I have heard many horror stories from students and colleagues. One of my students ended up in a shooting two years after coming through class. A mugger had his cousin by her hair, and had a knife. He shot the mugger in the head with what essentially was a hostage shot. Despite the mugger beating, and holding a knife to a young woman’s neck, the guy got prosecuted for shooting said mugger. It also sucks that a lot of the communities most effected by these strict laws, are black/minority communities.
I imagine in those situations you'd have to be a "trained professional" but that guy was a regular civilian who more than likely saved his cousin's life. A life was lost and it's unfortunate but it wasn't the life of an innocent person.
I get a lot of situations aren't black and white but if you can definitively answer who, what, when, where, and why and it checks that you were defending yourself or someone else from some deplorable scum bag that should be an open and shut case.
Its all a ruse. They use the crime they allow to continually take away freedoms from law abiding citizens to achieve their real goal of abolishing the 2nd amendment. This is why they hard focus on school shootings especially when the guns were legally obtained while doing nothing to protect the schools to further their agenda. Obviously school shootings are tragic cuz innocent children are involved but way more and its not even close, shootings happen around the country from mostly illegally obtained firearms everywhere from street corners, home invasions, clubs (you stepped on my shoes!), and general gang shit that law abiding citizens get caught up in. I dont hear about this shit happening when everybody in the neighborhood legally carries!
Well yeah, those communities have the most members of it committing crimes.
@@Sykone4717 I'm sure you're statistically correct in that, but doesn't the strict laws against self defense only demonstrate that the criminals have the upper hand? It seems fucked up to arrest the person defending an innocent in an environment where violent criminals feel they're untouchable.
I bet you that they purposely make those laws stricter in people of colors' neighborhoods. 😢I can't wait for judgment day.
I live in the U.S and I am attending classes in protecting myself with a handgun. Things are changing where I am increasing my security in the odds of being able to protect myself. I will never beg someone to stop hurting me again, not beg for my life. Police come when 911 is called and usually are responding as the violence is happening.And I don't trust the politicians promoting anti-gun policies when they have security teams protecting them. The guy that protected his mother, I want to give a high-five.
Shit I also just took a CCW class in my state. Stay strapped and safe my friend.
I'd rather be a criminal and protect my life and face the consequences of this p3d0fi13 immoral system
My father is a retired Hwy Patrol Officer. He told us all as kids...if someone ever breaks into your house you shoot them with the mental intent to kill them, that way they can't turn around and sue you. You then go and give your statement like a crying girl saying how shocked you are that something like this could happen to you, you've never experienced it, you feared for your life and the life of your family, you fired only in protection of yourself and your family, you are sorry the bullet killed him, and try to cry to seal the deal.
That's sad u have to go through the hassle if someone breaks into your place of living bam dead case closed no farther investigation needs done
@@brianpj5860 A dead body magically appeared in your house without your knowledge? Sounds like a good plan.
@@brianpj5860 gun shot residue aka GSR
@@brianpj5860 Forensics will ruin your plan.😂
Reminds of that guy who got sued for his shotgun house trap that shot the intruders leg off and he said he should’ve just aimed the gun higher so he couldn’t sue
The fact that criminals are given rights is beyond me. Break into my house, with intent to cause harm or steal my hard earned property.... then you should be ready to forfeit yourself.
Not in Trudeau's Canada.
Shoot the leg instead of taking a life.
@@ibizawavey8630 To be fair it's been like that way before Trudeau.
@Max it's the same in many states in America
Bro I got my AR-15 and Pistol on deck, I wish a mofo would try😂💀💀
After I was the victim of a violent crime years ago, I did a lot of reading into power dynamics and self defense laws and I realized just how unfair our self-defense laws are for Canadian citizens. The laws are ambiguous on purpose because the Canadian courts want to be able to enforce them when they see fit to keep the population docile. Anyone who still thinks Canadian gun laws are fair is either too sheltered to know better or it doesn't understand they're being manipulated.
"Better to be judged by 12 than lowered by 6".
Americas the only place i will live at and specifically places that allow carrying. Idk where you got that phrase but its badass
Yep and now they're not allowing new purchases of firearms. Canada is fucked
Oh fuck ya. Hide the body lol
Could be worse, you could live in the UK, where we can be prosecuted for memes.
Both Canada and the US have been heading more towards authoritarian means with the current governments and what they've been trying to implement. Unfortunately, since the media (state sponsored in Canada's case, willingly in the US's) is supporting those governments instead of shouting it out, a lot of normies aren't aware. It's becoming a "frog in a pot being brought to boil" scenario.
Aba so right about the aftermath of home invasion. My friend was never the same when she was robbed in her house at gunpoint to her head. Never the same. Anxiety meds and attacks ever since.
Voltaire - 'It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.'
This is my favorite quote cause it describes this day and age perfectly
Wonderful quote! Thank you!
Dang son. That's so true
Fax
It describes every age, culture and civilization to date.
There are too many laws protecting criminals.
There's a law in the states that if it's cold outside you aren't allowed to start your car and keep in running, unless the doors are locked.
So if your car gets stolen, YOU get a ticket.
Even this moronic law of not being able to shoot a home invader is wild. Why would I, an untrained citizen, have to check a list of things prior to defending myself, but cops can shoot people with no context, and get off with a slap on the wrist?
Because cops get protected and have qualified immunity while you don’t, they aren’t even here to protect citizens in America, they have no obligation to remember, and don’t for a second think the cops are your friend
Exactly how tf a possible violent criminal have more rights than me? A citizen who didn’t do anything?
thats some stupid thinking right there. " there are two many laws protecting criminals" ...jesus Christ get an education
Canada is a modern day dystopia
Cause the law isnt for the people, its for law enforcement and up.
The worst part of a home invasion is the mental effects of knowing someone has broken into your house before. You can never feel safe and comfortable anymore in the one place in the whole world in which you are meant to feel safe.
The reality is your never safe anywhere so you should always be armed
@@kirerunte1046 god damn either you live in a fucking shithole or you have a lot of enemies lmao.
@@kirerunte1046 too bad people act like I'm insane for saying this, for thinking that, actually, more people should be armed and not fewer.
@TissuePaper yes u always argue that everyone globally should have a pistol and rifle, bare minimum, if it was upt to me every city. Community and village would have heavy weapons and artillery, but this assumes that people have an objective moral paradigm and most people are morally degenerate and can't justify why something is right or wrong to begin with
As an American, this burns my soul with all kinds of feelings.
"if you break into someones home, you life is forfeit" actual chills
You get chills from facts?
@@panthekirb7561 it sounds cool 🍆🚴
@@xii_xiix_xxiv interesting choice of emojis
@@aj3706 ikr is someones genitals running away? Or is a biker grinding on his bike?
thats how it should be.
Did 4 years in prison (in canada) for this exact thing. Was attacked in my home by someone (due to an earlier dispute off the property), was being held down and choked, defended my self, they had brain injuries as a result, I got 4 years in prison. In Canada you have to let them kill you lol its wild.
Brain injuries!! you went over board that's why you went prison
Heard this before from some of my Canadian friends that you cannot defend yourself without getting charged for the harm done to the perpetrator there. I'm so sorry to hear about your case. Every human should be allowed to defend themselves and their lives
Sorry to hear about your situation.
Another terrible part about this is if they harm you; you can only cause as much or less harm back other it’s aggravated/excessive assault.
The laws for regular people to protect themselves are protect criminals more than the victims.
If only these crooks got a taste of their own medicine
Not entirely true.
If the person got brain damage from you choking the person, it means he was already unconscious. Which is fair that you got sent to prison.
You could have released him, sat on top of him as he was unconscious, knocked him out as soon as he woke up til the police arrived.
Its aggravated to keep holding a choke hold when the guy is already out, you can kill him. When he is unconscious he is not a threat.
And also the shooting thing, its a really hairy, I do think THAT one is exaggerated, that you cannot shoot them in the moment of heat if they turn around.
If you have someone in your aim, and a split second before you fire and he turns his back, then I dont think you deserve prison for that.
But the attorneys job is to send you to prison and the jury and judge should have a bit more open mind when it comes to that and think about how it is to be under pressure.
Imagine you scared off the intruders without shooting them because they ran away and three days later they came back while you were at work and murdered your entire family. Because they came back pissed because in their minds you prevented their come up…. Tell me that won’t haunt you for the rest of your days knowing if only you just pulled that trigger and blew the air out their lungs the first time your family would still be here.
THE MOMENT SOMEONE STEPS A FOOT INSIDE UNINVITED IT SHOULD BE JUDGEMENT DAY for those scumbags.
That’s a terrifying thought but so true
But if you shoot the intruders and find out that those intruders who got shot after breaking into someone’s house have people of their own to avenge them the same thing could happen and it would just become a cycle, this is where witnesses protection and cops and guards need to come in to prevent jail time for the victim.
@@TC4loveandlife then be armed and have no friends and family, simple answer to that problem and that's what I do, if people give up there right to defend themselves then I'd rather be a criminal and defend my life
i gotta say, as a person that was chilling on his xbox when my home got broken into. ive spent days and nights tormented because my dad did not understand and did not want to move out that house until one day i just broke down and told him i stay up wondering if theyre just going to come back. Ive had to beg and it was until my sister spoke to me and saw me freaked tf out. as stupid as it was at the time i used to stop what i was doing and "patrol" the house in a sense with my stuff ready in case of anything. Looking back i was ridiculous af but at the time i felt i needed to do it especially since supposedly they were in the neighborhood. Also this experience made me hate cops because they spent more time flirting with my sister than taking my statement seriously.
Not being able to feel safe in somewhere you go home every night is one of the worse feelings i could think of. Especially as a kid who was home alone a lot during their high school teen years as my parents were pastors so they were always out (which is another reason why we got robbed, my dad was the type to always keep his door open and invite whoever during preachings)
People that never been through it genuinely dont understand the pain. I was only like 13-15ish at the time and it still haunts me to this day and im 27. I dont stay up or wake up due to noises anymore but im paranoid a bit of keeping my house locked down. Im in an entirely different state and it bothers me to this day on a much smaller scale. Of course i joke about it as well now a days and my friend that was on xbox with me at the time jokes with me till this day and its all in good terms but i'd never wish that on nobody.
Reasons like this is why we need to get the scumbags out of government. They don't get the right to tell you when you need to defend yourself.
Those same politicians are also constantly surrounded by men with guns. 😂
@@gavinharrison8174 That shit is hilarious. They tell you that "you don't guns" while surrounded by four men with guns. I don't know how they still get voted in with such blatant hypocrisy.
"If you try to rob someone's house, your life is forfeit." Agree...
*"So anyway I started blasting" meme intensifies*
I live in a stand-your-ground state thank god - sheesh, I feel terrible for this family. I hope he beats the charges.
going through the whole process itself is a lot of punishment, this is sad.
Which state?
@@theinvisiblewoman5709 A southern state.
@@theinvisiblewoman5709 basically every Southerm State you can think of and the Carolinas.
On behalf of Trayvon Martin I’m going to disagree. This situation is just sad and disgusting…
Everyone should be able to defend themselves and their loved ones from harm.
The fact that was ever up for debate is insanity.
I am so glad I live in Idaho. Similar to Florida, you criminal trespass you can and will get deleted. Any breaking and entering, robbery, rape, or any "violent" crime can get you snuffed.
Definitely a lot of people scrolling also have the same thought and wished they lived in Idaho instead
Haha laughs while residing in NY...
Cool to see another Idahoan here. Im Also glad I live here.
@@Lat-YuFrantu516 whats going on in the big apple?
@@crosswiz6 Rats
Agree with Aba. My family was victim of robbery while we were traveling and returning to an empty home was soul crushing. They took everything, even the electrical wires. I'll never forget the despair on the faces of my parents. It took us years to make back what we had. Unfortunately, the perpetrators were never caught. Always secure your house properly friends. Don't rely on neighbors and locked doors only.
This is why I hate the argument it's just stuff you can replace it's not worth killing someone. This tells me these people are only saying this cause it's not their stuff that was taken. My friend had a laptop that he cherished cause his mom used to use that laptop for her job and she gave it to him as a gift since she was sick and could no longer work and she had a picture of himand her as her wallpaper and he never changed it unfortunately that was the last gift she gave him. Well one day he comes home from a trip and finds his windows busted open and he found most of his stuff gone but most importantly they took his mothers laptop and he was crushed. Luckily the guy that stole it was a moron and since my friend lives in a old house the guy assumed he didn't have cameras and barely covered his face. So the police found him and managed to find out who he sold the laptop to and after explaining to them what happened and why that laptop means so much to him they gave it back to him and even offered to help him to better secure his house.
I couldn’t imagine coming home after a long day and finding the belongings I worked hard for just gone. I hope you and your family heals and those perpetrators burn. I’m so sorry.
No lie. Kinda want my house rigged to explode because of stuff like that.
Might sound unreasonable but maybe don't leave the house alone. If someone has to take a vacation, someone should take the responsibility to stay. Presence deters, vacancy welcomes.
Honestly, it's really hard for people to understand this unless it's happened to them. You really feel so violated.
The fact that he was using self defense on intruders who was breaking into his home and still faces murder chargers for using self defense on them just shows how messed up his situation is for defending himself and protecting the mom.
In my country it's basically the same. Just checked the law, makes it very hard to defend yourself legally even in your own home. These are the main points needed for self defense to be considered valid, i translated em to english best i can, should be accurate enough i think.
1- You should have no other avenue than to defend yourself
(So basically you should strive to run away from your own home and avoid the invader.)
2- The force used in defense should be in proportion with the attacker
(Can't be using a knife vs fists, or gun vs knife etc., gotta duel it out fairly.)
3- Defense should take place at the same time as the attack
(Can't take action to preemptively defend yourself, to prevent yourself from being hurt, just because you think someone will attack you, even if in your own home.)
Ofc, this is just the law, how it really applies in court is generally arbitrary and up to the judge, and the defendant can plead about their state of fear, excitement, haste at the moment etc., which affects the decision.
@@N0xiety guy was outnumbered 4 to 1 and they had at least 2 guns so he was was outgunned, his and his mothers life was in immediate danger and they *still* charged him.
I agree 100%. I know of a guy who had a guy break into his home and warned him before he came through the door he was armed. The intruder kept puching so the home owner shot him in the legs with a shot gun so the intruder lived. The home owner was charged with assault. Welcome to Canada don't expect justice here.
I’m from Milton, and the entire community was shocked. People feel unsafe in their homes
home is the place you should feel MOST safe. It's a scary world out there.
keep you and yours safe the best you can. ♥
Sadly what they covered happens weekly in bigger city like montreal or torronto
@@lithelyjaine no it doesnt
@@lithelyjaine why make up bullshit?
Milton has it's reputation
I’ll never understand why there are laws to protect criminals that break into your house lmao
Great reset. If a citizen is brave enough to fight a home invader they will fight against authority. Their rights to hold firearms are forever removed after demonstrating they will retaliate.
It complete paradox where criminals have more Rights than the innocent because the laws are ruled by them
Not just that. If they get hurt in your home, be it from a trap you placed(doesn't matter if it's a mouse trap that was intended for a mouse) or a loose floorboard, you have to pay the guy that broke into your house. It's so ridiculous
The reason is Canada does not have privatized prisons. So it cost the province extra cash to fund the jail system. It is also partially the reason why we no longer have insane asylums. It all comes down to funding.
fucking dems
What happened to self defense?…. This is like getting suspended from school because you were the one defending yourself against the bully…
That happened to my son the school said because the kid fell on the ground and my son gave him and extra punch it was no longer self defense
Happens every day in "zero tolerance" schools
That happened to me too.
Now a days that'll happen in schools
Self-defence was made illegal in Canada.
We had an incident in the UK years ago when an old man was being held by a robber with a sharpened screwdriver, the guy ended ho stabbing the robber and killing him and these animals were trying to prosecute him with murder but public outcry ended up forcing them to drop it.
Here in Australia, if someone breaks into your house, even if they’re committing a crime, and you injure them in self defence. You can get charged criminally. Even worse, if they slip on a hazard, they can then sue you. Crazy bruh.
Damn that’s sucks bro, in the Dominican Republic that shi don’t fly, you do the crime under your own risk and you gone gone 🔫
In Canada we have the same damn law
Australia fucking sucks man! I hate our stupid country
So we protecting criminals now ?
While they commit an act ?
How generous of them mate
Same in New Zealand, we have “a duty to retreat” aka just let them
Rob you
My black male history teacher in AL had our back. He taught us where to shoot and what to say in many situations like this. Thanks Mr.Mosley 🙏
Okay teach us
Roll Tide
Whats his skin color got to do with that though?
The coach from last chance taught you how to frag people? Dope!
@@redditmusic0079 Idk what his gender has to do with it either, why you ain't mention that?
This is why Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws are so important. It’s not about just randomly shooting anyone you want, it’s about protecting your right to defend yourself without fear of being prosecuted for being a victim
This is why no one trusts increasing gun control laws in the US. Canada shows how foolish they can become. We can't even ban TikTok without overstepping citizens' privacy. It's so frustrating. 🤬
Exactly
Sorry Stand your ground is BS. Ask police how many ppl use that law just to shoot people. Thats why alot of police advocate groups have actually requested that law be redefined.
@@123abcdancewithme it depends on your laws. A number of states in the US have stand your ground laws and in those instances you can use deadly force legally to defend yourself and your property. I think these guys are in Canada which has become super oppressive in these situations.
@@123abcdancewithme No you silly….you’re supposed to call the police and then stand there and let it happen.
Even in the states it’s not always easy to “get away” with defending yourself or others.
All this teaches me is that if I had to choose to either: be the homeowner with a gun or the robber, I should choose to be the actual criminal. I might as well just start breaking into houses, hoping that someone has a gun and doesn't fatally wound me so that I can take them to court for daring to protect themselves....
Make sure you rob a politician, so they realize how stupid the laws are and actually change them when it starts affecting the elites
Hell nah you’re acting like somebody give af about the law when it comes to someone breaking into their house tf 💀💀 Imma have to take the charge you not breaking into my shit
You might actually be safe if you just break in, steal stuff and actually live there. Sounds like they can't 'defend themselves' from you if you are just chilling on the couch
@@thecurrentmoment thats a thing in California, its called squatters right or claim?
No, don't do ANY of that, because all you would be doing is playing into the leftist narrative of creating more chaos for society. Which is what they want.
Guess im finna go to jail. If anyone attacks my family they getting their shit bashed.
Hell yeah.
This is Biden's America
Just dump the body somewhere. Don’t call the cops. Get the job done and go back to life as usual
Even in red states if you shoot someone you still get arrested while they investigate.. its not a big deal, this guy wont go to jail.. relax lol
@@breezydagreat12 based
He did what any child would do for a parent they loved. I hope he is not found guilty. The damn city should be giving him a medal.
My dad's in law enforcement and he's said this multiple times that these laws only negatively affects law-abiding citizens because criminals are already committing crimes, they already don't care about breaking the law. It's insane how people get punished for rightfully defending themselves and others but the criminals have more rights than the victim. In Maryland they have that problem and I'm living in the UK, so it's a different country with different laws mind you, but they also have absurd self-defense laws here.
Why is this even a topic of conversation? The fact that someone even broke into my home to commit armed robbery puts me and my family in danger. Their life is indeed forfeit at that exact moment they break into the door and through the threshold. I'm not waiting to see if they surrender or not.
In certain states there's castle doctrine and stand your ground laws. If anyone enters you're domain (house / even car in certain states or situations) you have the right to protect yourself / others using deadly force - point blank period.
Now you might still be arrested depending on the circumstances pending an investigation (for instance if they weren't armed to the same degree) - but legally in those states so long as you are protecting yourself / others within that domain from assault, deadly force is legal.
You can also shoot people in the back, contrary to popular belief (threat doesn't end because someone's back is turned - they can always shoot at you while running away). What becomes questionable is if the threat has been abated and you continue to pursue or attack them then, you are liable for at a minimum assault with a deadly weapon, manslaughter or obviously even a murder charge.
Yeah but in Canada they literally don’t even have the right to self defense.. it’s freaking insane
@@ChickenJoe12 Canada is a trash country. Commies and nazi up there.
Every time I'm on the internet and I see stuff like this it seems as if gun laws/self-defense laws are more in favor of criminals than they are for regular folks.
@@ChickenJoe12 i cant imagine having an armed intruder break in, and you scrambling to unlock safe #1 and then run to safe #2 and unlock that and hurriedly put the gun together like as if the intruder is just gonna watch and wait for you to get ready
@@ChickenJoe12 every human is born with the inherent right to defend themself. the state can not take that away.
Looking into recent self defense cases in Canada I came across the sad case of Yosif Al-Hasnawi. I'm actually disgusted at how our our legal system can fail so spectacularly. Aba N Preach should do a video on it if they haven't already.
In canada if a bear attacks you and you kill it in self defense they'll charge you with poaching
What has this case to do with being prosecuted for self defense? It sounds like it was about someone killed because of intervening in an assault. Shitty situation, but an entirely different situation..?
Canada has its own backwards ass laws. Not to mention the Prime Minister wore Black face.
@@braindecay9477 Self defense includes defending people in your general vicinity, because it's in your self interest to keep them alive so the fker doesn't come after you next
As a non Canadian, Canada sounds like a joke of a country
I support your take! Once you decide to enter another persons home to do WHATEVER crime, your life is forfeit!
I was a juror on a, criminal breaking and entering case. That day I learned (at least in California) that you have to let the person who broke into your house, you have to give them, the opportunity to leave before you act. It's pretty wild. Sat there for almost an hour as a judge meticulously read the law. It's wild.
thats what jury nullification exists for. just smile, nod, and vote not guilty.
California and New Jersey are the most pathetic anti-American and anti-consitution states in the country. State governments should not be allowed to essentially neuter constitutional amendments.
I don't see how a corpse could argue that you didnt warn them to leave ? What asinine nonsense. It's ridiculous to think you owe a dirt bag who doesn't value human life all kinds of consideration and leeway.
Then you realize that that law is screwed and you decide too side with the home owner regardless of the law. That's jury nullification and people need to know what it is and to stick to their guns even if 11 other jurists are pressuring you too convict an innocent person because they want to go home.
@@franklugo6928 I don’t know about innocent. Well, if a person broke the law, by definition they‘re not innocent. That’s the beauty of jury nullification though, sometimes legal guilt is justifiable and shouldn‘t be punished. Gotta love it!
"Only to go to the gun range"
*Laughs in U.S. Citizen*
Yup
Facts lol
For now...
@@noname-xo1bt I don't foresee the 2nd Amendment ever being overturned. Even if the government tried, many states would just outright refuse to enforce it.
@@chico9805 Depends, anything can happen. If there were a mentality change in the future generations of the the nation, it is feasible that the 2A could be repealed or amended. As unrealistic as that may sound for the near future.
My uncle got a call from a neighbor while at work. Said there was a moving truck in his driveway. Immediately left, saw his furry friend on the garage floor motionless. Pulled, entered, man #1 approached from around corner, done. Ears ringing, but can hear that man #2 escaped through the back door. Calls emergency services. Officers arrive. Officer #1 coaches my uncle on exactly what to say once the detective arrives. I’m thankful that happened, because he certainly did make mistakes. But no one is perfect, and you never know what you’d do in such a scenario. Especially upon seeing your 4 legged relative is no longer with you. Mind you, this was 30 years ago, and in the US.
You support Ukraine. Your point is automatically invalid
I'm the officers helped him out
@@spile225 Don't mention the Ukranian Nazis it melts the liberal mind.
@@spile225 stay mad Ztard
@@spile225 You from North America? How can someone from here support the Russians? No free speech, freedom of press, right to bear arms, even right to land ownership with natural resources. I don’t trust people that are not free. And if you aren’t from North America, and are Russian or a Russian supporter, why are you using TH-cam? Or Microsoft Windows and/or macOS? Android or iOS on your phone. FaceBook, Instagram, Twitter, Twitch, Discord, Snapchat, etc etc. All American. We don’t use Russian trash, so why do you use ours?
Edit: Also, what point are you referring to? You an imbecile? I wasn’t making a point. No argument. Was simply telling a personal and true story relevant to the topic in the video.
Broooo! When Abba said, "If that was my mom and 4 Grown-Ass Men attacked her!!!"
I felt that! Agreed 100%! NO REMORSE!!!
A high risk sex offender recently moved into our neighborhood and it dawned on me that you have a better chance of getting approved for a home being a sex offender than having an eviction and that's the nastiest realization I've had this year.
Laws are great they keep order etc but often times they end up hurting innocent individuals more.
It amazes me the police even notified you they were coming, unless it was just neighbourhood word of mouth
@@ReikerForge they have to register and when they do wherever they move a notice is sent thru the mail to the surrounding area.
Why isn't that loser 6 feet under?
@@funkyfreshkid08 Oh I know, they just never actually go through the trouble of mailing everyone in the area, thus I'm surprised they did with you because I had to find out the hard way why a guy was driving around my property eyeing my sisters with a look I can say was disgusting, only to find out from his next door neighbour, not the police that "Oh yeah, he's been molesting kids for 30-40 years"
@@ReikerForge Molesting kids for 30-40 years and he was still a free man living amongst society. If that doesn't speak about how f'd up the justice system is, idk what does.
Canada's (my country) self defense laws are a joke, the fact that I basically have to let someone have the first punch before I can do anything physical to defend (equal force so you can only use fists if they are using fists, knives if they are using knives, etc) is ridiculous, and honestly makes no sense as if you are physically weaker; you have almost no chance at a positive outcome. The deck is literally stacked against you, house always wins.
Let alone just stand by as someone breaks and enters into your home not knowing what their intention is. It's ridiculous, any sane person would want to protect themselves and their family.
Thats why I always say the government IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. No government.. *ANYWHERE*
@@Lol-ww8xd I always think about the story in the UK where some psycho broke into a lady's house and murdered her while she was talking to her husband on the phone, I think her kids were there too. I guess she should have just retreated so that the psycho could hunt her in the open. Who decided that criminals should have more right to safety than the innocent? Boggles the mind.
Not only that but your self-defence must be “proportional” to the force of your attacker. So you have prosecutors who try to argue that the person who tried to defend themselves didn’t use the same force as their attacker and they should be charged. Which is INSANE, what the FUCK does “proportional force” even mean when you’re in the heat of the moment?
Ya its so messed up that the logic is that YOU NEED TO GIVE THE CRIMINAL A FAIR FIGHT.
Crazy how split second decisions can determine a person’s lifetime.
Most people have no experience with such situations and they are in panic mode when something like this happens. If they make a mistake according to the "law", they go to prison for it and their life is ruined. Yet, if the criminal hadn't created the situation their life would go on normally. There is no logical reason to charge the victim, in fact, it appears criminal in nature to charge them with a crime. Because of working in dangerous places I have been in these situations a handful of times, yet I am sure that if the situation came up again it would still be difficult to avoid some level of panic. I don't live in the US now and the country I live in has laws against having a gun despite a high crime rate (not surprising). Having a family, a single family home and being seen as a foreigner (assumed to have money by locals) obviously puts me in a situation in which I must have a reasonable strategy for dealing with trouble. I cannot predict all situations but I can minimize possibilities. That said, I have recently come up with a new strategy for anyone that may try to get in my house. Spear guns are not illegal (the underwater things) and I would prefer to wound someone badly outside my house and have them drug off by their partners in crime to die elsewhere or whatever. They won't go to the police and report they got hurt trying to break into my home. Here nearly all houses have security bars on the windows and doors, mine included, so trying to get into a home takes at least a few minutes and is a noisy process. I have not acquired a spear gun and may not because there are cheaper homemade tools that would be easy to construct, easy to disassemble and more powerful (youtube shows many ways to construct such tools). Certainly, I prefer a gun (like I always had in the US) but if for any reason the cops came in my house and found it,,, I would be off to prison.
My mom's house was broken into. Thankfully she wasn't home. But she did get scared living alone. I left a good job to move back home to be with her. I don't regret it. But you do have these feelings of violation afterward. It's an ugly feeling.
My husband grew up in Canada. I thought that it was a wonderful country and it is but when I realized how soft on crime they are I was disgusted. Canada does not punish criminals and they let them out very easily.
Yah but on the upside we don't have people shooting up our schools weekly lol
In the US it's like that too if you're in a Blue State
@@GoulagInamte777justice is blind it doesn't matter if its a blue state or a red state
@@GoulagInamte777 Some U.S. cities are starting to get relaxed on crime due to jail overcrowding and a broken police system that ruins the lives of many people. Our "justice" is also applied very unevenly due to racial bias and finances BUT it still stands that on a base level the US is much tougher on crime than Canada.
Yeah its like this in Norway, several stories where intruders got called and emergency service operators tell the homeowner to let the intruder go since he wasnt «a threat anymore». You cant ever prove you were in at risk of dying for self protection and not get imprisoned. Doesnt help that the police are lazy and slow af to come when needed.
Yeeeeaah I'll deal with the threat completely, and then let a lawyer plead my case later. What I'm not about to do is sit there worrying about what the fine print says while I or my loved ones are in danger.
This has to be the most frightening trend right now. People deserve the right to defend their loved ones and property. No prosecution is deserved on their part.
Voting for it. So people get what they get.
It INFURIATES me hearing about cases like these . It’s so unpatriotic to trial someone for DEFENDING themselves and the judges who don’t dismiss the case after reading the details should be exonerated . Shame shame shame to how much violent crime has been rising and Americas politicians are worried about eliminating the ability for responsible owners to defend themselves properly .
Your first mistake was thinking patriotism is a factor, hating the country is how the government allows members in.
It is very stupid but this case was in canada because thats where they live but i know that this still happens in the usa
Aba: your self defense claim is so incredibly well spoken. Truly to my own heart. Ive said this for years. If break i to someone’s house, your life is forfeit.
that is not a good idea..what can happen is that for example you and i have dinner in your house, you shoot me dead and say to the police i attacked you. What you say is not thought out, and incredible dangerous. Aba is wrong...lets hope he never has a girlfriend over in his house, and she shoots him dead while saying he graped me.
If I were a Canadian I’d be rioting. This man could be any of us.
I was on a grand jury for a similar case. 4 dudes stalked a house, tried to break in when one of the homeowners started to fight back. The brother of the homeowner, who was in the basement at the time, heard the commotion and ran upstairs with a gun. The burglars ran away as the homeowner fired warning shots. One of the shots struck one of the robbers and killed him. Now the owner was indicted for murder
As it should be. Thats Justice...Wait, not quite. If they threw the Judge, the Bailiffs, the Prosecuter and Officer into Jail, THEN it is Justice... Poor Man, being held to a Standard, that no Civilian should ever Face.
I just hope,that hes ok, mentally speaking.
Yeah homeboy shouldve been charged lol. They left
The part where he messed up is when he left the basement to go find the intruders. In most castle doctrine states without stand your ground laws, you are generally required to retreat to the farthest point that you are able to, and only then you can justify the use of deadly force whe you feel your life is in danger. This is taught in every firearms safety course in existence as well. Also, you never fire warning shots. If you fire upon someone it should always be with the intent of killing/neutralizing the threat.
They were retreating...this is the exact reason you don't fire unless absolutely necessary...a warning shot is not a defensive act its a threat.
Who are the only people who give warning shots is shit like the coast guard and navy and that's because of international interest.
90%(not an actual statistic) of people will probably run when a firearm is simply branished...that's actually most self defenses. Not even a shot fired.
yet cops are allowed to kill people everyday. Justice!
Imagine being the victim, being treated like the criminal. Makes you wanna go berserk 😡. Logic would suggest Aba's rage is Warranted 😤🙄
"Excuse me Group of intruders,
are you in my house to Accumulate objects,
or are you here to Unalive me?"
Lol like you have to play 21 questions with the "group" of home invaders
😂😂that exactly what these law motherfuckers want you to do
The minute you break into someone’s house to rob them (let alone assault a woman) you have no rights. Period.
With the craziness going on in the world nowadays there is zero reason to believe that anyone breaking into your house isn't going to kill you anyway after robbing you. I'll risk 10 years behind bars rather than 6 feet under.
In the US most states allow for yoy to defend yourself and your property. Its insanely dystopian that some governments try to penalize and prosecute people who try to defend themselves and their families
Most, true. But it was in the south that I was told that if someone ever breaks in, shoot with intent to kill. Don't let them get back up and turn it around on you. So it happens here too, unfortunately.
I would gladly go to jail in that situation, I'd tell the judge straight up what I did and I'd have no regrets at all, no remorse in my heart for defending my loved ones.
Bro you ain't wrong this America preach don't know what he talking he in Canada 😂😂😂
@@meditationridingwaves7559 I know he's in Canada. I wouldn't make any different choice If I lived in either country.
Id love to see these judges in this situation. These laws are so backwards. No one has the right to tell someone u cant defend your own or your loved ones lives against attackers, its insane! 🤬
Inside your own house, which has so much deeper implications.
This is what happens when you live in a countries where criminals are protected by law
*criminals write the law*
Isn't it so wonderful and utopian how we protect criminals against these heinous home owners who would DARE to keep and bear arms to defend themselves and their loved ones. The NERVE of these people who want to save their own lives and the lives of those they love. /S
People who want to protect their family and possessions from theives and killers are such narcissistic fascist and only care about their rights how selfish
It’s similar in Australia where the homeowner can only use equal force. It’s absolutely crazy. There is absolutely no way the police will come in time when all of this is happening in a split second - yet, the homeowner is expected to handle it with complete experienced, practised, military precision.
It’s mind boggling to me. Hell, even if the police was already in your own home, it would still take them longer to come to you than the amount of time it will take for you to make a life or death decision.
well it makes it harder to fight back after they have already bash/stabbed or shot you first, not to mention they nearly always have the advantage of surprise because they are the attacker.
Same thing in Finland. It has to be a fair fight. Equal force only, in the court they have days to deliberate on actions you had to take in seconds.
Yep I’m from Australia too, I’ll let my guard dog handle all that
You should of been Bruce lee bro. Just do a flying scissor kick and nock thr 4 men unconscious.
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This reminds me of a story here in Ireland. An old man who lived alone was constantly being threatened by these two known criminals and they broke into his house a few times. The man went to the police but they didn’t do anything. He got so paranoid that he slept in his cold barn instead of his home. One day the the men came and broke into his house and he was in his shed with a gun. He went to his house and confronted the two men. He shot one guy in the house and he died and then the other guy ran away and the old man shot him in the back while he was running away and was already out on the road. The old man was charged with murder and put in prison. It’s a weird situation because these men were tormenting him for a while so he knew he’d come back if he got away but on the other hand he had ran away and was running away on a public road when he shot him and killed him.
If the police don’t wish to get involved to begin with, they shouldn’t get involved at all.
Never shoot someone in the back, morale of the story
@@LewisB3217 that’s true but if he didn’t either catch him or kill him the man would have definitely came back and killed him
Double tap at that point
That man's an Irish Hero
The world we live in but people who hurt and violate the helpless walk free and end up on a list ! Sickening
I can understand being arrested until the investigation is over so but if he’s convicted and imprisoned for legitimate self defense that’s BS.
@@John-Doe-Yo I agree 100%
no surprise that criminals would make laws to defend other criminals.
One day calling ambulance to save your grandma from heart attack is gonna make you go to prison, wild times
Them hospital bills gonna make you wanna go willingly
I don't know if it's changed but down here in Atlanta, if someone comes on property and you feel your life is at risk this would fall under self protection. Hell I've heard cases were people don't even see an hour of jail time for this kinda thing.
That law is written so they can charge no matter the circumstances. There is no self defense in Canada. It's all at the whims of whatever mood a prosecutor is in at the moment.
And we are getting worse here in the US too. Prosecutors letting violent criminals go and then going after people who defend themselves. It's a damn mess.
.. this guy gets it.
most based comment here.
Can’t give this enough thumbs-up.. We see time and time again prosecutors here in the states letting repeat offenders go on bond even for charges like murder, just letting them back on the streets to to back to doing exactly what they were doing before despite having a long and violent criminal history. But when someone defends themselves or someone else from those same violent criminals the prosecutor will find every way possible to keep them locked up and fighting against the charges for possibly years. It’s so fucking backwards. They don’t want people to defend themselves from the criminals that THEY keep putting back on the streets, they want us to be scared to protect ourselves and reliant on the government for protection, which they can’t actually provide, so that they have all the power. Because unlike the criminals that they keep letting out, we try to follow and obey the laws, so they use the law to scare us by going after those who defend themselves to send a message to the rest of us. It’s insane.
Its because good people let the guilty lead and decide.
This is false. People who pull these opinions out their ass are both ignorant and dangerous.
“Your life is forfeit.” That’s exactly right. Glad to hear it from my brothers in the North! I thank God I live in a State with castle doctrine.
Thats why it's important to know your state laws..states that honor castle doctrine plays a huge factor..I don't live in Canada but man, that sounds terrible that a law abiding citizen has to worry about saving their loved ones
Preach was spitting. I have had this conversation with so many people, and you will not believe how many have disagreed with me on the grounds that those criminals are just trying to feed themselves. God save us.
Since when criminals are concidered as "protected class" rather than law abiding citizens!?
A guy broke into a house attacked a guys mother when he broke into a house he forfited his life privilege
The % of criminals is lower compared to % of law abiding citizens, so obviously they will be protected. How is that so hard to understand?
I dont think I've ever heard crimicals called a protected class? By who? I think this just shows how out of touch these lawmakers, with private security, are.
@@Jeezu007 the criminal population doesn't matter
They don't deserve rights
Too many criminals are black. That’s the only reason.
@@Izaz-ke7dt they don't get called it, but its what they are, at least in some areas of the USA. For example in San Francisco, someone can openly steal from a store, and the cops won't come for anything less then a couple thousand in damages. DA will refuse to press charges if they are arrested and even if there's been an assault or something will usually drop felonies down to misdemeanors. There was one case where a pedo after being arrested claimed he was a woman, and because he had been arrested originally when he was 17 (then Covid happened), when they finally got around to him a year or two later and convicted him, he was put in JuVee with underage women "because he was a transwoman and the original charge had been from when he was a minor". Meanwhile, you try defending yourself and yours in these areas and the cops will come around to arrest you
There is no fighting without movement. There is no guarantee that turning around and running away isn't just strategic repositioning. Not taking chances with my families lives under any and all circumstances, ESPECIALLY when I'm out numbered.
Facts, and I speak for every good man here when I say this, but I am ready willing and able to defend my family by any means necessary. If you're not willing to protect the family that YOU have started, then in my eyes you're not a man and you don't deserve to have a family.
I guarantee the individual who is having the charges pressed against him would still do the same thing now. If my choice is between burying my mother or spending some time in jail, the choice is an easy one.
As a Canadian hearing this, I was actually surprised to hear that he was arrested after shooting an INTRUDER in his home only once. I wasn't aware of the gun laws either so thanks for that insight. Free my man!
If you have to kill someone in self defense.......don't call the cops, plenty of land to get rid of problem lol
Unfortunately that’s the government that we have.
If someone breaks in your house, your options for defense are incredibly limited.
@@Kyle11011 Y'all can do something about that, and I don't mean anything violent or illegal btw, but you can restructure your gov from the ground up by getting like minded local people in power and getting word about injustice like this out. A man defending his home and loved ones would not have been seen as criminal in Canada 30+ years ago.
If someone breaks into your house here, even using a baseball bat or any kind of weapon at all is illegal if the robber doesn’t have a weapon.
It’s called “equal force”.
Wouldn’t want to make it unfair for the burglars!
As a Canadian you’re in the same boat, you’re not even allowed bear spray, or pepper spray
So you're suppose to let an intruder break into your house and kill you. This is ridiculous.
So his options were
1)unjustly spend time in jail, but see his mom again when released
or
2) unjustly doing time for self defense, but come out after his moms funeral. Glad he chose the first option
Exactly! Same here
Option 3) Don't call the cops. They do not exist to protect you.
Damn right