Here’s a sweet little $168 audio system
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- Dayton's new DTA-2.1BT integrated amplifier is also a honey. Firstly because it sounds nice, secondly because its all-metal chassis is so darned small -- just 1.4 by 5.25 by 5.2 inches -- and best of all the DTA-2.1BT sells for just $99. Paired with Dayton's also-new $69 per pair MK402 speakers, the sound is a pure delight.
Read my DTA2.1BT review here, www.cnet.com/news/this-pint-s... And the MK402 speaker review here, www.cnet.com/products/dayton-...
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Ive been a follower for over a year, I always check your channel as I really love and own some high end stuff, I also love seeing your episodes of different subscriber's setups, I find your reviews very insightful and really appreciate the lower end reviews as I also am a DIY enthusiast.... please keep up the great work and know that it is appreciated
As a pianist and lover of music ( and not obsessed with audio equipment) I really appreciate your reviews simply because you explore inexpensive options without the attitude of snobbish audiophiles. Like you demeanor and straight forward explanations. Peace, Gus
I'm not a "snobbish audiophile"! LOL
AudiophileTubes Yes, that's very clear Steve! Your love of music shines through you. Audio equipment is simply a tool. Much love and health to you. Keep up this nice and friendly channel.
Joe Al . No, the worst mistake I made was to once have joined an audiophile group on Facebook in order to learn a little It is for the most part cultish, a battle of egos showing off who had the most clever parafernalia. Unless you are suggesting that Steve is just a propaganda boy to whoever pays him to review just any junk on the market. That would be a serious claim you are making. I would say that a few of what Steve suggested overtime I find really satysfying and reasonably priced.
I bought a $40 amp from a company called douk audio and it's amazing.
@@modestextreme Thats good to know. Will check this out
Watched your review, bought it, love it. It is a really awesome little amp for what space I have. Thank you for informing and great review video.
Great stuff Steve. Always enjoy your ideas and opinions
I enjoyed the fact that you look at far less expensive solutions ...
Great video again Steve and Kudos for again championing budget equipment. A lot of people are put off by the high cost of audio, but your posts are a great gateway for people to get into our hobby.I have a great set up now LFD Musical Fidelity etc which has probably cost me about £15k but I started off with a modest system and got hooked...lets hope your generous good humoured and honest videos do the same...all the best from Northern Ireland...keep the faith brother
Steve, I love that you talk about affordable audio. Please find more great audio bargains.
Check out the Topping and SMSL line of China Audio products - value off the charts
You're looking very good here Steve and the sound is very nice your voice is very calm soothing
pretty cool little amp!
I have this amp at my work computer desk. It powers a custom set of 4 inch speakers I built and a 10 inch passive subwoofer. It sounds great! I use the RCA inputs. I did try the bluetooth the other day and it seemed to be buggy. I don't really care since I do not use the bluetooth feature.
I have a little Dayton audio amp very similar to this which is driving a pair of Polk audio towers in my wood working shop. Hard to beat for a sub 200$ system!
Steve, nice job! An affordable compact no frills amp. Think this helps get those on a tight budget into audio, pair it w some economical decent speakers and a source...and voila....they are in the audio game, and most of all, enjoying good music!
Hi Steve, If you like this Dayton amp, you should love the S.M.S.L. AD-18. It has way more in the way of inputs, both digital and analog, has more power (80 watts/chan @ 4ohm), built-in Bluetooth, headphone amp, USB in, 2 optical ins, coax in, aux in, line level sub out (for the more common powered subs). Unit also has a nifty display, a remote control, and some useful built-in EQ's. Great package for only 45 more $ than the DTA-2.1BT.
Hey Steve. I bought that amp. It drives my passive folded horn sub very nicely (Bill Fitzmaurice Autotuba design) and klipsch RP600Ms are also on the way so i’m pumped! I think it will be a killer system for $850!!
It's a great amp. I own one !
Enough wattage/ BT/ subwoofer capable / tone control / easy to move around / well built ... buy it, it is a sweet unit !
I have one of these have a set of ked c1's and a 8 " sub hooked to it as a desk top in my work out room and was blown away, by it a little raw up in the highes however.. Have a CD, streaming audio also by Dayton and the Bluetooth works well also.
Steve, I'm glad that you are talking about inexpensive products that sound good. Now on the other hand have you done a review on what I believe to be a Pass labs headphone amp behind you and if so how good is it.
Steve, thanks for saving me from PC powered speaker hell. I have passive speakers for home audio and HT set ups but I made a mistake of getting powered speakers for my PC. My barely used right Audioengine A2 speaker crackled. And I had to have it fixed for about the same price as getting a used one. And it still did the same thing. And although I really like my JBL 305 monitors (powered) for clarity, I could have gotten mired in another dumb desktop powered speaker. But with your recommendation of the Dayton DTA.2.1BT2, my PC sounds amazing. I paired it with a used Elac B6 and I am just in flabbergasted. Thank you.
Steven Dayton has been selling little amps like this for years .But now its 3 channel and blue thooth.I have two of the older ones .
Fx audio has the exact same model probably just different branding but only costs 50 dollars, and man they sound so good
Those little amps are great for lots of applications where size, cost, or simplicity are paramount. Something for kitchen, bedroom, shop, computer etc. Another application is multi-channel musical instrument (specifically virtual pipe organs) where you might need a dozen or more channels of set it and forget it amplification.
Right now I am listening on a cheapo Lepai amplifying my computer and driving my home built OBs and a kludged up sub and you know it is pretty enjoyable. As the computer system it stays powered on all the time and the wife can play back stuff on the computer while I am at work with no fuss. I really wouldn't want to use my tube amp for something like this.
Update:
On your recommendation, Steve I bought TWO for only $78 each!
I had a broken REL T3 subwoofer with perfect drivers, so I bypassed the plate amp to make it passive. I also had two sets of Realistic Mininus 7 mini speakers gathering decades of dust and an old passive sub....SO I now have music in a spare bedroom and the bike shop in my garage is next!
Your CNET review stated that the subwoofer channel of this amp was not very useful but I beg to differ.
Also Parts Express have subwoofer kits that can be built up as passives so this is a perfect addition to their line of product.
The amp sounds fine via Bluetooth. I plan to hook up a TV for the guests.
Thanks for the recommendation;-)
I just got a pair of minimus 7 speakers. How does the amp sound with them?
if you need more inputs, there's also the Technical pro RX113, RX504/503, RX41UR ,RX38UR and RX55URIBT Pyle PDA6BU, PT24BT, PDA7BU stereo receivers. Which also have a bigger power supply than the "wall wart" that will come with the amp.
I have the RX55URIBT and it's pretty nice for the price, as an AVR it lacks but as a 50 watt there about per side stereo receiver it's pretty good sounding. At least with the Dayton AIR towers I power it with. I used to be a brand snob. I almost got the other technical pro receivers I listed but the RX55URIBT had the best track record. it also has 2 subwoofer outs. which can double as preamp outs for one or two of their variety of 2 channel power amps.
I realize this video is two plus years old, but wanted to say that I tried the sub out with a older floor speaker with a 10” woofer and it actually works really well . Yes I realize it is a hack thing to do, but it works in a pinch until you can make or buy a passive sub.
I'm using this to drive my computer and turntable audio in my office, powering a pair of Elac Debut 2.0 5s (and a powered 10" subwoofer). Does a great job. I only wish the unit had a discreet input button. Currently the power and input select functions are all awkwardly handled by a single button.
Agree with you on the input selection/ power button ... it's clugy (somewhat frustrating) too much for one button control !
Other than that a great little amp. !
Steve, I have known your name for so many years, but I never imagined you would pronounce it this way.
Yep, I figured he was related to the printing press guy. :)
Hey Steve, Dayton make some compact subs and I believe one is passive with 4 - 4.5" speakers. It would be great if you could review one of these 2.1 amps with that sub.
I have two of the version 1. I like that I can build my own subwoofers for them. The version 2 has an adjustable subwoofer crossover, the version does not.
Thanks Steve.
I have a spare bedroom with a pair of minimus 7s that need an bluetooth amp for guests, so this is a good recommendation.
Your cnet review called the .1 sub amp a useless feature....well I have a couple of active Klipsch ksw10 subs with blown plate amps. I can easily convert them to passive !
Come to think of it my bike shop needs an amp for the minimus 7s I have there....
You just solved several issues for me :-D
Unfortunately parts express is out of stock ATM. I'll bet that was your doing. Bah!
Very cool video
I'm going to get one of those and try it along with the Mk402 speakers. I can probably build my own compact passive subwoofer with an 8" driver for less than $100. I think it will make an adequate sound system for a PC desk setup.
did you end up doing this? could you share how it went?
Ironically, I have re capped three Hafler DH series power amplifiers with some Dayton capacitors (Electrolytics were Elna and some other film caps were Vishay, but the Daytons were recommended for specific locations in the circuit , and I have to say that the results exceeded my expectations.
Great find ! Quick follow up question.
Would the below set up work ? Or am I missing something ?
RPI stream box with optical input -> Schiit Modi 3 DAC -> Dayton DTA-2.1BT -> Elac Debut 6.2 Speakers
Sweet!
No remote. I can control the volume with my phone right? Only streaming from my phone
I have the DTA-2.1BT. It's a nice small amp. The two main channels are full-range and the subwoofer channel is LP'd around 160 Hz I believe. That can seem a bit too high to drive a passive subwoofer, but if you use sealed main speakers that naturally roll off around 100 Hz and a bandpass subwoofer that covers everything below that, the results can be pretty good. That basically describes the system that I set up for my youngest daughter in her bedroom.
It is 180hz.. the Stereos are full Range? Interesting..
I found an old passive subwoofer with built-in low-pass inductors that I could rewire to make the sub come in at about 60-65 Hz , which works great with this amp and a pair of modded B652-AIRs, which IMO are much better than the tiny MK402s.
Hmmm im curious to ask, will it improve the sound quality if we use a dac?... Anyone please
Steve, have you heard the Musical Paradise MP-303 digital (Class D) TUBED integrated amp, that only sells for $188? It has garnered amazing reviews, and hits way below what it should be going for, price-wise. Seriously, this thing drives my Magnepans with aplomb, I kid you not! It is, to me as a long time audiophile, the audiophile steal of the century! And no, I don't work for, or have any affiliation with the company. On another note, I have the Dayton B652 AIR (now they have the tower version too) speakers with the AMT tweeter (folded paper ribbon?) in my garage system, and they sound amazing for super cheap speakers! Dayton makes some very affordable, quality audio equipment for sure. Cheers!
yes mp-d1 mk2 and the big kt120 amp seem awesome too..
I just put in my order for an MP-303. Thx.
And...I have those towers. Haven't powered them yet. Gonna wait for the 303.
@@hifiman4562 Just curious... how do you like the MP-303 with the towers?
@@AudiophileTubes The MP-303 allows the towers to sound better than they should. Very impressive for what it is. (Use a high pass of 80hz or so to keep them from breaking up too bad, should satisfy most people for enjoyable listening, not critical listening or rocking out)
I'm putting together a pair of MarkAudio bookshelves next. Should sound glorious. Baffle step circuit, and minidsp set to 80hz highpass, Klipsch 10" sub for under 80hz.
@@hifiman4562 Very nice! Thanks for the reply. I have my 303 now driving a pair of Magnepan MMG's. Very satisfied with the sound, to say the least.
Thanks for reviewing cheaper product that use normal people can afford. Could you do more of this in your channel please as some of use don't have thousands of dollar to spend on equipment and we like nice sound as well that is reasonably prices :-)
I have a Topping VX2 DAC Amplifier paired with Tangent Spectrum X4 i used them with my computer sometimes i feel it sound better then my Marantz PM7005 with Monitor Audio 200
Dear Steve. Great review. One question which I see hardly answered around the internet and couldn't be better suited for you in my opinion: how does it compare to more expensive audio? Everone, including yourself, is amazed by the sound, but how do you think it compares to a (i.e.) 500 or 1000 dollar amplifier?
Steve's name seems really familiar. Has he been involved with audio reporting for a really long time, like in magazines and such?
Steve, I love your videos. I have a Cambridge Soundworks satellite speaker system. The (passive) sub has two (voicecoil) inputs. Internally there is a built-in crossover. The manual shows the wiring arrangement with a standard R/L channel amp. Essentially, the same R/L amp outputs feed the two voice coils in parallel. I'd like to use this Dayton amp. You touched on the possible crossover interaction between the subwoofer output crossover and the passive sub speaker crossover. Can you provide any additional comments or recommendations? I'm thinking it would be better if the amplifier sub output was unfiltered. Do such (unfiltered sub outputs) exist? Thanks!
Love the size. Disappear on a shelf. Want to hook them up with Jamo s803. Good?
is this powerful enough to drive the elac uni-fi ub5 well ?thx
Considering some of the Dayton Audio customer base are DIYers, the powered subwoofer out is not that abnormal. Someone wanting to build a box for a generic sub, using a car sub from a garage sale, or even pressing a crappy HTIB "subwoofer" into service, that is where the powered output makes sense. Granted, I get what you are saying.
I went with a SMSL AD18 and a pair of Micca MB42X, and a Micca MS10.
Hello, thank you for your reviews with this and elac's debut b6.2, I just want to ask question maybe a recommendation... Is there a better amp that you can recommend me together with the elac I mentioned now? I've decided to get it, but i'm kinda having a hard time getting a very good amp for it because I am also going to use it for my computer.
I would really appreciate your help! Your dear subscriber -Nin MAHALO!
I looked at DTA2.1bt in detail. 1st, you can't get 200w of output using the supplied 24v4A power supply. 2nd, this DTA is dual chip, one running L/R and the other BTL mode, and the BTL side is fed from a 180Hz 12db low pass filter (not sure if it gets that from L or R input, or if there's a active mixer to combine L & R). I will attempt to drive Micca in-wall @4ohm, and attach a PylePro 12" DVC (2x8ohm in parallel) in-wall woofer to the DTA sub output. I will also upgrade power supply to a 8.4A version.
It costs me $168.00 when I take the wife out for dinner, and she doesn't even sing for me...
Dang. How many bottles of wine is that?
Cihan T
It doesn't take any effort to spend that much in some of the restaurants without drinks and the food isn't even good. Seems like the less they give you the more they charge and they call this gourmet. I hear back in the forties you could have a juicy New York steak with a slice of apple pie and coffee for a dollar. Time has changed.
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Really? I don't seem to have much trouble making her sing.
Yea but i bet she yelled xD
can you connect subwoofer directly without crossover?
Steve, you should check out the HTA20BT by dayton. it is a integrated digital amp with a tube preamp section. it has blue tooth and usb as well as a few rca inputs. has a subwoofer line output and headphone too. i was honestly blown away by this thing. it's about 140 bucks.
Most low cost devices with dials/knobs tend to start crackling over time and not staying smooth with their response. Remotes eliminate that problem. I'm not opposed to getting up and turning a dial but when it starts losing its sensitivity and screws with the audio quality, a remote becomes a necessity.
5year warranty.
Unbelievable deal for $78!
Oh, by the way the Yamaha stereo amp you mention in this video is much cheaper on accessories for less site. So if you recommend that unit I’m all over it! I don’t need it but I like a good deal. Thanks
Hi Steve,
I got a pair of focal Dôme Flax speakers nominal impedance 8 ohms and the recommend amp power is 25-100 w. I’m a bit of a novice when it comes to matching the power requirements of speakers to amps as all the speakers I currently have are powered and internally amped.
I’m looking at the Dayton APA150 150W Power Amplifier and wondering if it’s and good and if it will do the job for me. Or if you have any other recommendations, I just need a left and right Chanel and no bells and whistles like Bluetooth as I don’t need it and I want the amp small enough to hide under my desk, I live in Thailand and there’s not many people around that I can ask about this so thanks in advance.
Graham.
For speakers that are Bi-ampable you could use the Left and right channels on one speaker and the subwoofer out put on the other and then you would have to 100 watt channels.
That wouldn't work. :-(
This is the first time I've stumbled acrossed your channel...and I've already subscribed. First stupid question of the night: is this Dayton 110/120VAC powered or 12VDC powered? I was wondering if this is something I could wire up in my truck or in my RV.
It comes with a 24 volt power brick so I doubt it would work on just 12v. If it did run at all, the output would be so low as to be ineffective.
Hi Steve, have you checked out the Fosi Audio BT30D I think it’s pretty good. Please let me know your thoughts
The lack of remote control is a deal breaker for me but the Yamaha is too big in size. How would the more expensive model DTA-PRO 100W compare?
Using a small preamp with a BT transmitter can substitute for a remote-control, albeit the price could exceed the price of this amp. P-E sells a $45 tube preamp, and $70 BT trans/receiver combo, which could be worthwhile for some remote-less systems.
Little gun shy right now about 'cheap' hifi. I went and pulled the trigger one of the current crop of praised to the sky bookshelf pairs for around $100 - and had to sell them because they were so horrible sounding in my room. Not to mention the fact that they looked cheap, felt cheap, and _sounded_ cheap.
On the other hand, bought a Chinese tube line level buffer pre-amp to solve a specific problem (getting my smart phone to sound good on my bedroom system) - and the results are better than I had a right to expect. So, bargain basement audio is not completely bad (I'm not a snob), but beware the hype, even when it comes from someone you trust, like Guttenberg. My .02....
Hello Mr. Steve I am looking for some hi fi speakers quality price at the moment and I do not know where to start I already have a good DAC I only need a few speakers.
Steve.. who is the person in the painting over your left shoulder? I see this in many videos and always wondered who it is
Does it work for turntable?
Could you add a little more clarity on the sub? I bought this amplifier and two Pioneer SP-BS22-LR speakers. I want to use it for a home theater speaker system and to play music through my phone on Bluetooth. Is there a subwoofer you would recommend? Does this mean I need a subwoofer that does not plug into the wall? Thanks!!
Yes, you need a passive subwoofer -- and considering the response curve of those Pioneers and the very high low-pass frequency of the Dayton's subwoofer channel, you'll want one with a built-in low-pass inductor that brings the sub in at somewhere between 60 and 75 Hz or buy an external series inductor to do that job, otherwise the sub and the low end of the Pioneers will overlap and cause bass-heavy muddiness.
The new DTA-2.1BT2 sells for $86 and has the very desirable feature of a front panel control for the low-pass frequency of the subwoofer channel. Combine this with a $51 pair of B652-AIR speakers, which are considerably better than the tiny MK402s, and you'll have a much better system for only $137 (with free shipping from Parts Express), leaving $31 in a $168 budget to find yourself a decent used passive sub on eBay or at a local thrift store -- I found myself a remarkably good old Pioneer HTP-102-SW (with a Radio Shack "Optimus" badge) for only $6 at a nearby Goodwill. BTW, Dayton/PE has apparently adopted noaudiophile.com's excellent tweeter polarity reversal idea, which makes the already very good B652-AIRs even better.
Is this Deja Vu or did you do the system once before not that long ago?
did u try trend audio and dali spkrs
That would've been perfect if it had a simple preamp Sub Out with a set filter at 150hz, which also filtered on the main stereo channels.
Can u make a video about why speaker impedance is like 4 or 8 Ohm while headphones is 32 to 600ohm
mahee to push a driver to max, a speaker needs to be low impedance. I am pretty sure it's because of the available voltage. Like say, old car stereo amps didn't have anything but 12 volt to feed on. A 32 ohm speaker couldn't pull as much wattage as a 4 ohm. In headphones, it only takes a small amount of wattage to max out so higher impedance makes more sense. I'm no pro, best guess.also I heard on another channel that old tube amps needed 8 ohms because anything less, they messed with output.
Regarding the comment by Steve about rhe crossover in an active sub could confuse matters....just set crossover frequency on sub to max and let the amp send it what it wants and in effect the amp will be doing the filtering.
Hi, can any on recommend a small sweet CD player to plug into this?
A little late to this video, but I have been using a $40 or $50 (don't remember the exact price) Sony DVD player as my CD player for years. No bells or whistles, but plays common CDs as well as any.
how dods it compare to CAMBRIDGE AUDIO AXA35
What do you know about powered subwoofers that randomly and intermittently start going bananas in the middle of the night (sounded like a aeroplane landed on my roof) when nothing is playing and the only way to stop it was to switch it off?
Sorry, I have no clue, try contacting the subwoofer company, ask them.
Radio frequency interference. What brand sub. Some of the cheaper ones crap out over time. I have had this issue as well. Time to get a new more expensive sub. I recommend SVS
Has anyone tried this Sony STRDH550 5.2 Channel 4K AV Receiver $148(aud)?
All these compact amps I've ever heard have a bit of a noise floor, some worse than others, nothing like the drive ability their specs suggest and a glassy hardness at volume.
Unless space is an issue I'd suggest a used Rotel/Sony/Marantz budget amp, or if you want a small footprint, the vastly better Denon DM-41
Wow... but whaaa- cant find them anymore..
Hey,
On your side regards $$$ vs quality. But I thought you didn't like class D amps? My T-amp (a class D variation) 45W PC I prefer to a previous class A Threshold, a Quad 405. It sounds like my old McIntosh 275 tube. And u like NAD amps (class D?)- me too!
I've owned and or listened for long periods to everything speaker wise, GA Briggs corners, Quad electrostatics, Tannoy GRF's, and presently use Maggie's upstairs and LS35As in the basement. I prefer the point source 3/4 inch dome tweeter of the Rogers LS35a to any 1 inch dome I've heard-greater dispersion leading to a holographic sound stage.Do you think you would you like a 12 inch dome tweeter? Do you think the plasma ion speakers don't produce sound because they are massless?
But totally agree with you that great sound can be had afford ably. As you said, much depends on mating components, experienced ears and your room.
Will this amp run small, powered studio monitors?
powered speakers have their own amps, so no, this little amp won't be a good match.
Thank you for showing the unit for a total of 3 seconds
They just dropped a new version with an adjustable sub woofer crossover. Both the new and old are less than $100, the old is under $70.
Dayton just dropped the old model, although can still get one under the "FX" brand via eBay or Amazon.
Well it has a Bluetooth radio, and that's all digital. At 25 W/ch. @ 8 Ohms it might be just the thing to give Junior so he can have something to hook up to his phone and power castoff speakers and perhaps a DIY sub. I think that most of the time, half the power in the box will go unused. And without a sub line out, it's not all that useful. True DIYers will buy the kit form of the DTA-2 module instead for much less.
I'm a sucker for nicely made all-metal all-in-one boxes, but this just doesn't inspire. When I search Amazon I find dozens of similar products that aren't the oddball configuration of the Dayton, usually for less money. I can get a smart looking metal box without the Bluetooth radio or sub channels for $40. Here's one with a wireless remote. Another with a mono line out for a powered sub. Oh, yes...more power too!
How about showing it?
This is the situation I found myself in a couple years ago. I needed a budget system. I opted for used, instead. Stuff from the 70s to the 90s is just sitting in Flea Markets all over America. 100wpc 8ohm class a/b amp - $40, Sony SACD player $40, 3 way speakers $20. It's everywhere, and it was made to last. Maybe have to replace some capacitors, eventually.
Oh ya, good stuff to be found. I have a marantz surround A/V receiver from an eBay electronics recycler. 23 dollars. Free shipping cause of local pick up instead. Put that on "direct in" and it's sweeet!
Brian David: ya beat me to the comment. I was going to say I see Marantz recievers all day long in flea markets and consignment shops for under 100 dollars. I myself was given a 2230 by my father's friend. Nice solidly built Japanese equipment that was decades ahead of its time.
Wade Guidry yes, it's a good era now, my wife has my sr870u now. Hooked up to dinky little bookshelfs, with a lightweight cone woofer. She runs it night and day. She doesn't want to let it go. She says " get another one for yourself." It just has a punch you can feel even played at levels under room conversation. I seriously doubt any class D could pull off keeping her interested.
Also the tablet from Lenovo that has atmos, feeds the marantz from Spotify on the high quality setting. Apparently Lenovo has a nice dac and headphone amp in it. I have tested it with several nicer headphones and it is good. Better than all the phones we have. But we don't have the iphones or galaxy, so I don't know what their like. But for a little over a hundred the Lenovo tab10 is good.
This is where we are headed with the NU-FORCE style gear. It will be really good in a few years. We're not there yet though.
Good for those that Will build own speakers (subs)
Ha, I got my latest and greatest passive subwoofer at the local Goodwill store!
@@editorjuno Plans to scrap an old speaker set, Scanspeaks woofers and make a sub.
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@@Tbonyandsteak -- Looks like a great project. I wish I had the room for that sort of carpentry, but alas I don't.
Why do I think you look like Chris squire?
has no adjustable highpass for the stereo out, not only should it have a highpass that you can set, but also a bypass switch for full range operation, it also only has a 2 amp 24v power supply which can only put out 48 watts, you really need at least an 8 or 9 amp powersupply at 24v to get the fully 200 rms combined... nice for 89 bucks i guess, but if they were to charge another 45 bucks, it would be worth it.. it is also using an old standard of bluetooth... why 4.0 when 5.0 or 5.2 is out now...
This is fucking awesome. I can throw these little bad boys in my bedroom. Small do the wife won’t complain lol
Need something with a sub out.
For 170 you could grab an old school Technics receiver and some Craigslist bookshelf speakers.....just saying.
You could grab a whole lot aggravation by buying "vintage" gear -- that little Dayton (actually, its improved successor, the DTA-2.1BT2) comes with a 5 year warranty.
How much snake oil do you own? 🤔
Bleh! >> POOR PRODUCT!
Yamaha RS202
I have this product and my bT died within a week....
I like watching you videos, but I won't subscribe because you say that rock music doesnt fit the criteria of audiophile. Right?
@Larry Niles never one of his reference tracks was Led Zeppelin 2
Usually, such tiny quazi-amps has no power supply at all, and inside of the gift-box, you'll see dirt-cheap power brick for LED applications instead of audio grade power supply with a large tank of aluminum caps. Typically, such junk bigger twice vs amp case and has impudently overrated specs, and if you remember >1% of school physics, you'll feel it fishy when RMS output power at THD=1% claims 2x60W = 120W powered by 24V 5A (24*5 = 120) power brick )) So for $100 you've to get two boxes - amp and SMPS power brick tied by cheap cable. Try to check how deeply rails voltage drops at THD = 1%@20Hz@4ohm//4ohm and you'll see 10-15W per channel.. Is this HiFi yet? ))
It sure is. I built my current system around this little amp, Dayton's larger B652 speakers, and a used Samsung "home theater" passive subwoofer I picked up for $25 shipped on eBay -- and it's fully the equal of my previous system driven by a massive 100 WPC JVC integrated amp. Is it "audiophile" quality? No. Does it fall into the less stringent "Hi-Fi" category? Abso-freakin'-lutely!
Bruce, for sure massive 100 WPC JVC integrated amp had good enough power supply, however, cheap junk amp without power supply usually uses something like that (25RMB = $4) item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.48.6f853eddsaz9dj&id=560294256028&ns=1&abbucket=19#detail
If you hear no difference you are lucky ;)
@@ivane1168 -- I'm an apartment dweller, really can't play music loud enough to strain the Dayton's little power brick without alienating my neighbors, really don't have the room for massive Class AB gear, and that JVC's fancy input selector switching was starting get flaky when I finally retired and downsized my living space. Of course a beefier power supply is always an option -- the amp's two excellent TI chips can certainly make use of more current should I decide to risk my lease by ramping up the volume. :-)
I would hate to be an audiophile reviewer reviewing entry level components. For me, it either sounds good or or doesn’t. I could never do a “Well, it sounds good in this price range” thing.
That's why he's the Audiophiliac and has a magazine gig -- and you aren't and you don't. :-)
No, it will not run your Magnepan speakers.
rabit818 Actually it will. I have a pair of Mag 1.6 which I pair two separate amps. First amp, Parasound Halo 2 Channel 240wpc into 4 ohms. Second amp, Gemtube amp with only 15wpc Class A (push pull).
No reason why this Dayton couldn’t power the Magnepans however the little Dayton will have a short life driving the Magnepans due to the massive load.
My friend....take apart your DA MK402's the tweeter is a joke......the magnate is the size of a large pea. These are mass produced crap, sold to people solely based on their looks from partsexpress. For another $100 you could have got Elac B4's which are Andrew Jones designed with massive magnates and high end crossovers. The sound is night and day.
Ya but can it beat my Bose.
Magnet size has about as much to do with tweeter performance as a guy's shoe size has to with his IQ. Of course if you spend nearly 3x the money on an excellent Jones-designed speaker you'll get much better performance than the tiny MK402s -- that's a classic apples vs. oranges comparison.
Small things are usually sweet and cute things... and in audio are only that, but... without A class or AB, min. 100 W and 10 Kg per mono block and channel... there is no game. Maybe, D class and such small toy things for PC, computer... but that is not HI-FI at all. It's only and probably nice way to listen to music when you are doing something else (working, cooking, sewing, gossiping ect.).
I disagree. Class D has truly come a long way Dragan. Check out the Musical Paradise MP-303 Class D integrated amp (that even uses tubes in the preamp stage). It is an exception, and has nuance and 'slam' that even drives my Magnepans MG12QR's to a very satisfying level! Some manufacturers are doing great things with Class D! In general, you are correct though. I think the MP-303 is one of those exceptions, for now.
Thank you for your recommendation. Maybe, D for B (bass)... However, as you say: I SPOKE IN THE GENERAL TERMS. If you read my text two days ago for Steve's video, you will see that I've been building my system for quite a long time and I do not intend to change it (''58'' guitarist, LPs, cassettes, CDs, SACDs, tubes, solid states... ect.). I'm on the verge of audio "nirvana"... or... Peace.
Your always chiming in...what is your set-up...
Rolling tobacco, Jack Daniels and a handmade professional classic acoustic guitar... or you need something stronger?
Please educate yourself about "digital power amps" in Pioneer receivers. Pioneer engineers have done amazing work.