This is a brilliant review. Launch Control sounds amazing, works like a Tesla without being a gimmick. I tested an ARCC Moulton a few years ago at a bike show. The automatic mode was a major differentiator to the other electric bikes. Intelligent and seamless. A safely boost because automatic meant not having to fiddle with electric settings while riding. And it made hills flat. Definitely an electric system any stronger riders can exploit. For me I was thinking of the range, it would meant I could visit a relative 20-30 miles away and not turn up soaked in sweat.
Thank you, good review. Just one thing: the “size” of a battery is to be measured in Ah (amp hours) or Wh (watt hours), not in amps. Amps ( or Ampere or A) gives you the strength of the current that flows to the motor. Amp hours (Ah) tells you how long a current can flow to the motor until the battery ist empty. The energy provided to the motor depends from them current (Amp) and the voltage (Volt or V). Therefore to compare the size of two batteries it is not enough to compare the Ah. Instead you should compare the Wh. The 3Ah power tool battery has an energy amount of 3Ah* 36V = 108Wh. A usual Bosch e-bike battery has about 500Wh , which is almost five times as much.
Thank you for commenting and sharing your knowledge. I'll be sure to include that in any future reviews of e-bikes. Maybe do a battery life test in the future to give an exact time of how long the battery lasts. 👍🏽
As someone having issues with the Swytch mounting system I would think this kit would work much better as the battery is designed for impact drills etc.
I thought that too, until I realised that ARCC uses the front mounting block, so you can't have a bag on the front. This means carrying anything, it is on the rack, if you have one. So, folding is not possible, or it is a back pack, and I don't want to go back to that. Did you fix your Swytch mount issue?
Looks good, I just don't understand the price of the convertion. I build lots of pevs, (skateboards, scooters and bikes). The parts used can't add up to much more than about £700.
Very interesting I have the same bike and would consider this kit after this review. Would then give me a valid excuse to buy another bike to ride manually ❤
Fantastic, it all sounds nice and dandy, but the fly in the ointment is "electrifying your Brompton voids your warranty with Brompton", if I understand correctly? So the trade-off is that ARCC gives a 5-years warranty, obviously for the electrification system only (I suppose), and one loses the 7-year Brompton frame warranty in exchange? For some it might be an acceptable trade-off, but for all? Just pondering...
What you did not mention, and this is important to many and perhaps all Brompton riders. is that the ARCC unit takes up the front mounting block, so all the front luggage options from Brompton are null and void. So, if I have to choose between launch control and no loggage Vs no launch control, but with luggage, Swytch or Brompton electric win.
Hi Brian, just a quick one from us here - we can easily convert any Brompton bag to sit on the front of an electric conversion (would be silly otherwise as our customers would need to replace all their existing Brompton bags!). And we have also made and sell our own fittings to allow baskets to be attached too. Hope that helps!
Na oryginalnym e-Bromptonie mogę przejechać zaledwie 20-25 km. Czy można jakoś to wydłużyć za pomocą dodatków z ARCC ? Na przykład zmienić akumulator ?
Hi Jourdain, You should start an ebike review channel, if you are able to hire and test out bikes. I am in to road bikes, however this video was still interesting. With ebikes becoming more and more popular your videos will get lots of views.
you can use 2 18volt batteries in series to get 36volt if your able to wire them together thats what i do and use dewalt 18v , bosch 18v, basically any power tool 18v battery just put it in a bag.
@@AlNikoros buy 2 battery adapters that fits over makita batteries and a fuse holder and XT30 connector and wire it up in series 18 + 18 =36 volts its that simple[if you can solder].
Does anyone know how to remove the front wheel to replace the inner tube? I have a snakebite puncture and cannot remove the clips/covers that are over the fork ends and prevent the wheel from being extracted. We've tried several things to no avail and the Arcc online manual doesn't show these clips/covers for the Brompton version of the conversion. This is very frustrating!
Hey Robert! The bar bag I am using is from craft cadence. Here is the link - craftcadence.com/products/craft-cadence-waterproof-handlebar-bag-3-5-4-litres-yellow-black
Looks like a great kit even though it's quite expensive. Shame they have no intention of selling the kit standalone so people can install it themselves. No way to buy outside the UK.
@@JourdainColeman yes it’s my “go to” commuting bike.. I have a couple 🙈 but none electric ⚡️.. did trial an electric one. and they’re certainly fun. But even the non electric ones are quite nippy and have a noticeable faster acceleration pulling out of traffic lights compared to my road bike, probably not a match cruising speed wise.
You didn’t mention the price and I can see why. £1799. Ouch!! And that’s only for the 4 Ah battery. The 6 is an extra £136. That makes it more expensive than the premium for an electric Brompton over the standard. And it displaces the luggage block so you have to pay another £100 for the Brompton bag adapter kit. Nice video but no thanks.
Glad you enjoyed the video! I agree, the price tag is steep. I'd be interested to try a standard electric Brompton and compare. When researching the ARCC Brompton, I done a lot of comparisons to the ARCC kit and honestly, the ARCC kit has more features. Without riding both I can't say which is better though.
This is a brilliant review. Launch Control sounds amazing, works like a Tesla without being a gimmick. I tested an ARCC Moulton a few years ago at a bike show. The automatic mode was a major differentiator to the other electric bikes. Intelligent and seamless. A safely boost because automatic meant not having to fiddle with electric settings while riding. And it made hills flat. Definitely an electric system any stronger riders can exploit. For me I was thinking of the range, it would meant I could visit a relative 20-30 miles away and not turn up soaked in sweat.
Thank you, good review. Just one thing: the “size” of a battery is to be measured in Ah (amp hours) or Wh (watt hours), not in amps. Amps ( or Ampere or A) gives you the strength of the current that flows to the motor. Amp hours (Ah) tells you how long a current can flow to the motor until the battery ist empty. The energy provided to the motor depends from them current (Amp) and the voltage (Volt or V). Therefore to compare the size of two batteries it is not enough to compare the Ah. Instead you should compare the Wh. The 3Ah power tool battery has an energy amount of 3Ah* 36V = 108Wh. A usual Bosch e-bike battery has about 500Wh , which is almost five times as much.
For further comparison, Brompton’s OEM Electric comes with a 312 Wh battery.
Thank you for commenting and sharing your knowledge. I'll be sure to include that in any future reviews of e-bikes. Maybe do a battery life test in the future to give an exact time of how long the battery lasts. 👍🏽
Great vid giving a real in depth insight to the ARCC modified Brompton many thanks for sharing.
Glad it was helpful, John! I have a couple more videos planning coming soon 👍🏽
That looks like fun. You made it look so cool. Amazing video as always.
Thank you friend! Very pleased to hear that you enjoyed the video 👌🏼
Great review, and you let us hear the sound of the motor on full launch control.. thx
As someone having issues with the Swytch mounting system I would think this kit would work much better as the battery is designed for impact drills etc.
I thought that too, until I realised that ARCC uses the front mounting block, so you can't have a bag on the front. This means carrying anything, it is on the rack, if you have one. So, folding is not possible, or it is a back pack, and I don't want to go back to that. Did you fix your Swytch mount issue?
Excellent presentation. THX!
Looks good, I just don't understand the price of the convertion. I build lots of pevs, (skateboards, scooters and bikes). The parts used can't add up to much more than about £700.
Very interesting
I have the same bike and would consider this kit after this review.
Would then give me a valid excuse to buy another bike to ride manually ❤
Yes, absolutely... any excuse to get another bike 😂
Why would you have a review with no indication of price.
You can’t say you haven’t done the research about the competition and then immediately say that this is the best one
This look awesome!
Yes may man! Very fun indeed 👌🏼
Where can I get the kit fitted if I live in the UK?
Here is the company website - www.arccbikes.com/products/brompton-conversion
@@JourdainColeman Thank you!
Fantastic, it all sounds nice and dandy, but the fly in the ointment is "electrifying your Brompton voids your warranty with Brompton", if I understand correctly? So the trade-off is that ARCC gives a 5-years warranty, obviously for the electrification system only (I suppose), and one loses the 7-year Brompton frame warranty in exchange? For some it might be an acceptable trade-off, but for all? Just pondering...
ARCC will take on the existing warranty for your Brampton from my understanding - www.arccbikes.com/pages/support#warranty
What you did not mention, and this is important to many and perhaps all Brompton riders. is that the ARCC unit takes up the front mounting block, so all the front luggage options from Brompton are null and void. So, if I have to choose between launch control and no loggage Vs no launch control, but with luggage, Swytch or Brompton electric win.
Hi Brian, just a quick one from us here - we can easily convert any Brompton bag to sit on the front of an electric conversion (would be silly otherwise as our customers would need to replace all their existing Brompton bags!). And we have also made and sell our own fittings to allow baskets to be attached too. Hope that helps!
Who installs the kit?
Na oryginalnym e-Bromptonie mogę przejechać zaledwie 20-25 km. Czy można jakoś to wydłużyć za pomocą dodatków z ARCC ? Na przykład zmienić akumulator ?
Hi Jourdain,
You should start an ebike review channel, if you are able to hire and test out bikes. I am in to road bikes, however this video was still interesting. With ebikes becoming more and more popular your videos will get lots of views.
Was it Bosch?
Yes, the batteries are Bosch 👍🏽
you can use 2 18volt batteries in series to get 36volt if your able to wire them together thats what i do and use dewalt 18v , bosch 18v, basically any power tool 18v battery just put it in a bag.
@@10OZDuster Would be interesting video! Especially about Makita! Im construction worker
@@AlNikoros buy 2 battery adapters that fits over makita batteries and a fuse holder and XT30 connector and wire it up in series 18 + 18 =36 volts its that simple[if you can solder].
Unfortunately can only be serviced in Cambridge so a non starter for me
Does anyone know how to remove the front wheel to replace the inner tube? I have a snakebite puncture and cannot remove the clips/covers that are over the fork ends and prevent the wheel from being extracted. We've tried several things to no avail and the Arcc online manual doesn't show these clips/covers for the Brompton version of the conversion. This is very frustrating!
Great video. Can you get ARCC outside the UK?
I'm not 100% sure if they ship abroad, it's certainly worth reaching out and chatting to them directly. They are a friendly bunch 👍🏽
They don't ship. They only offer kits that they install for some reason.
@@andriegilsson6623 Probably because they offer a five year warranty and need to know it's done right.
But you can no longer use a front bag, which is a key Brompton element
Hi Jourdain, May I know the handlebar bag you are using on your Brompton? :)
Hey Robert! The bar bag I am using is from craft cadence. Here is the link - craftcadence.com/products/craft-cadence-waterproof-handlebar-bag-3-5-4-litres-yellow-black
@@JourdainColeman Thanks :)
Hiya J very good video great information regarding E bikes…… e cars e bikes what’s next ?…😀🙏🏿
Thanks, Carl! Glad you enjoyed the video 😁😁👌🏼
£2k is too much.
Looks like a great kit even though it's quite expensive. Shame they have no intention of selling the kit standalone so people can install it themselves. No way to buy outside the UK.
It's a shame it can't be shipped out of the UK for you. It is a good kit, very well built and solid.
@@JourdainColeman Yeah it's really clever. I love the launch control and Bosch batteries.
The launch control really is good. It gives you a proper boost as you are setting off. A well considered feature and well exicuted.
The distance per battery is purely theoretical. In practice its always less
Speaking frankly, ARCC Is expensive than others' conversion kits
:) ! Nooice one! If you ever want to compare or do a review on a regular Brompton hit me up can lend you one lol!
Hey Damose! That's a very generous offerer indeed! Do you use yours for commuting? They are fun little bikes 👌🏼
@@JourdainColeman yes it’s my “go to” commuting bike.. I have a couple 🙈 but none electric ⚡️.. did trial an electric one. and they’re certainly fun. But even the non electric ones are quite nippy and have a noticeable faster acceleration pulling out of traffic lights compared to my road bike, probably not a match cruising speed wise.
You didn’t mention the price and I can see why. £1799. Ouch!! And that’s only for the 4 Ah battery. The 6 is an extra £136. That makes it more expensive than the premium for an electric Brompton over the standard. And it displaces the luggage block so you have to pay another £100 for the Brompton bag adapter kit. Nice video but no thanks.
Really ? £1799! Jesus Christ, I can get a vanmoof for that
Glad you enjoyed the video! I agree, the price tag is steep. I'd be interested to try a standard electric Brompton and compare. When researching the ARCC Brompton, I done a lot of comparisons to the ARCC kit and honestly, the ARCC kit has more features. Without riding both I can't say which is better though.
@@JourdainColeman CRAZY MONEY !!!
I thought I was going to do this to mine till I realized you can't get this in the U.S.
It's a shame that it's not available in the us!
T'es français ?
You don't look much like Harry Enfield.
Some cyclists in London jump red lights like it’s going out of fashion.
They sure do!!! You get nowhere quicker though and endanger others.