The Aerospatiale ATSF / British Aerospace AST (Alliance) It was a SST proposal made by the builders of the Concorde during the in late 1980s and early 1990s as a replacement for said aircraft, with expected development to begin in the late 1990s and early 2000s. It was to seat between 200-230 passengers, cruise at Mach 1.7 which was necessary due to the desire to build the plane out of less exotic, cheaper and ultimately less heat resistant aluminium alloys to the Concorde in an effort to reduce costs. Theres very little on this SST out there besides some concept art. If you wish to look it up on google then the following will likely yield the most results "Alliance AST Plane" or "Aerospatiale ATSF". The design seems to have been gone through 3-4 iterations with the largest getting into the region of 300ft to 311ft in length. SOURCE'S: -There is a wikipedia article on the plane under the heading "Avion de Transport Supersonique Futur" (Don't worry the rest is in English!) -The webpage on "secretprojects.co.uk" (forum site) with a page entitled "The Aerospatiale ATSF (Alliance)/ British Aerospace AST" features some info and material -On Facebook there is a group entitled "IPMS.(UK.) 'Project Cancelled SIG.' (UK. & commonwealth) alt. modelling" if you type "Alliance" into a group search that features 29 pictures of various things. Newspaper clippings, concept art, models etc
They did not foresee the coming rise in fuel price and environmental concerns. It's sad that we don't even reach half the speed of the Concorde in airliners of today.
@@skunkjobb You mean sonic boom and noise pollution, that was main reason why it got removed. Its biggest advantage - speed - turned out to be its biggest weakness.
G-BOAC is on display in a building at Manchester Airport - I took my son to see it (you get a full tour and can sit in the cockpit). It was unbelievable considering the decade it was designed and manufactured.
We did get a chance from time to time if there was a test flight and they needed some ballast. A couple of my workmates went up but sadly I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
@@zanellewellyn1667 My Dad was part of the team at Marshalls that worked on and designed the droop nose. He's never been up in one but we did visit the Concorde at Duxford when I was a kid.
I would attribute it more to a prideful competition instead, nowadays it would never get off the drawing board once the calculations for costs were made and the tests with sonic booms and people's perception around it were taken into account. In fact that is a big part of what killed the US versions of supersonic transport. The Europeans kept at it cause in the end of the day, someone still had to win against the Soviets.
I grew up near Filton runway in the 70’s and 80’s used to watch Concorde engine testing at the end of Filton runway next to the M5. She was something special. Saw her last flight to Filton as well. 😢 she’s sorely missed.
I'm a local too. Grew up right under the flight path. Each year during the family open day my dad used to take me into the factory so I got to see them at various stages of construction. Even got to go inside a couple before they were finished. I even remember going to Aust services to watch the first one flying down the Severn. The hillside was covered in BAC and Rolls families. Happy memories indeed.
We never realised we were already in the future back in the 60s/70s. Some of my most vivid childhood memories are feeling my whole body vibrate as it went overhead. Similar to the vulcan flying by. Unless you experience it, it's hard to imagine. Pure power!
I lived on the edge of Filton airfield in 1990, weird to think that it's closed and all the Vulcans and Concordes that used to use it are scrapped or in museums now. Back then it seemed like Concorde would go on forever.
I remember, as a young teen, seeing the Concorde take off in Rio de Janeiro, and fly overhead, with a thunder so massive, it felt like the world was ending. Later it became my favourite manufactured industrial product of all time
I grew up in south-west London in the 1980s, under the path of Concorde's takeoff climb-out. The friend I used to walk to school with once remarked that, "it sometimes seems like it's splitting the sky," which is the best description I ever heard of that incredible sound.
Still always find it so surreal seeing a machine that still looks so futuristic and industry leading on old film reels... absolute tragedy the full dream was never fully realised :/
The day the Concord stopped flying and there wasn't anything more advanced and disruptive being planned or built in aviation, was the first in my life I felt that the constant progress I had been witnessing until then might start to unwind. From there on, it has been disappointment, after disappointment, amazing idiocy, after amazing idiocy, in this continued regression of ours.
I remember doing a primary school project about the concorde in the 70s. On the 28 september 79 i remember staring at the date on the blacboard and thinking about what amazing technology the future would bring. I never imagined a backwards step.
@@MrDirkles You mean we don't have jet travel for all today? EasyJet and Ryanair? You got it completely opposite, instead of the elite going between London and New York at supersonic speeds, we go slow so that we can have Wizz Air.
@@MrDirklesYes, but probably more affordable than ever (bar some price fluctuations). Compare (regular) London to NYC flight prices between 2003 and 2023, and there is a large difference. Is that really a step backwards? For those who want to fly supersonic in this day and age and can afford it; buy an old MiG, and you still can!
Concorde and the 747 just pure classic designs, it's sad that even the 747 will see it's end of service sooner than later. Now all you are left with are 2 engine tubes that all look alike, I guess fuel price wins. Maybe if fuel prices rise enough we will get back to regular scheduled Ocean Liners now that would be something else.
My dad worked at Filton and Derby on the Olympus engines. He was an apprentice so maybe didn’t take a key role and I watch all of these old videos hoping to see him. He has passed away now. He also worked on the Pegasus engines for the Harrier during the demand of the Falklands War. I still live in the Bristol area and often pass the old Filton runway which , when I was child would have all sorts of interesting aircraft such as the Super Guppy and other aircraft testing engines etc, it’s now mostly a housing estate, Interesting comment regarding his hopes for the 1990s and faster aircraft at 3:50
There actually was a proposal for a successor in the late 80s and early 90s. If you type either "Alliance AST Plane" or "Aerospatiale ATSF" you should see some concept art/models
the sad feeling I got when the gentlemen saying about the supersonic passenger flight we would have by the mid 90s. I mean at least Concorde was still flying then, I remember Filton in 2003 getting wet in the rain when it came back for the final time.
They were the days when wives didn't have fake tans,hair extensions, trout lips and big arses hanging out in wine bars before school pickup and feeding the kids in Macky "D"s 😂
Your comment setts the world on a higher level. So for all others you can see to what brain using leads when you watch the film . And in some comments you can see what " no brain" can do ......
Brilliant and a big thank you for posting - I have a memory of watching this a long time ago - so much respect and appreciation needs to be acknowledged to those involved in the development and assembly of this quite unique masterpiece of engineering.
Makes me sad to think about Alan and his wife, whose marriage suffered to some extent because he kept working on the Concorde. It was a magnificent set of aircrafts but then it didn't last very long and neither lead the way for other supersonic routes as they had imagined. No matter how important work seems, ultimately its nowhere as important as family!
As a student at the nearby Bristol Polytechnic in the 70s, I can remember driving past Filton and seeing Concordes. As I remember, they tested engines most Thursdays out on Filton’s runway - the sound could be heard everywhere in the city
Love for their Entreprises & many were small Private Ltd Companies hiring passionate people about aviation & aircraft , under people oriented management & good honest quality controllers to produced these Magnificient Concordes for the British Airways , Air France & Singapore Airlines back in the 1970s ... Sadly one Concorde was being damaged & crashed due to a loose metal part dropped by an earlier Airliner on the runway that punctured the fuel tank & other control systems that crashed the concorde while taking off that lead to the begining of the retirement of these Magnificient Concorde Airliners ... Thank You So Much for all these Passionate Teams who help built us these Magnificient Concorde! ... 🙏🌷🌿🌏✌💜🕊🇬🇧🇫🇷
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerkeIt was never an engineering failure. At the time this was the Pinnacle of aeronautical engineering on the planet. As far as becoming a widely used aircraft, there were issues and opposition that changed its viable future. But it was NEVER a failure.
@@bobolulu7615 They why were no Concordes sold? The Concorde was a unmitgated 65 million pound financial failure that completely gutted BAC and the UK aircraft industry
@@phillipbanes5484 Excellent comment, excellent point. America clearly knew alot more about supersonic aircraft which is exactly why they opted not to build SSTs
Glad my mother drove me an hour to Columbus, OH to see Concorde land there once. A rare treat. Also got to see a Sikorsky Sky Crane that used to be stationed around there. And the Goodyear blimp would fly by our house as we lived on a line between the Buckeyes stadium and the blimp base in Akron, OH.
It is pure crazy to think that what was revolutionary then is still so today, a faster way to travel by air is still yet to be achieved, back to the drawing board.
3:43 my heart sank listening to Mr Price say that. Bean counting has proven to be the bane of human existence, we were not built to count pennies for a greater share dividend but to chase after the angels. How far have we fallen
My great uncle workied with ba back in the day and a few years ago we cleared out my grandads loft (his brother) as we wanted him to move in with us during covid. He had a box full of brand new Concorde paraphernalia that was given to the passengers. Leather bound notepads, solid silver letter openers etc. was so interesting going through it all. Still have it up our loft. Sold a few peices on eBay. I think the first flight was from Glasgow as my mum has a photo of it passing over the house.
When you consider this aircraft was designed and built 60 years after the Wright brothers, took to the air at Kittyhawk we don’t seem to have gotten even back to this point in commercial airline development some 50 years later.
This is such a terrible take based on nostalgia and comes from people who don't have an idea about our engineering capabilities in other fields. You think we haven't made development just because we don't have a supersonic airliner? Flying has been made cheaper and accessible to everyone, while being safer than driving on the road. We have a range of jets today that can fly to even small towns and be economical and comfortable. The concorde experience would be considered shockingly bad by modern standards today because you can get a lie flat bed and a good night of sleep for the price as a cramped seat on the Concorde. Supersonic travel will never make sense for the masses because it's just way too expensive
You are wrong. Air travels are way too much safer now than those in old days and that is a significant advancement. Just because we do not have a Passenger aircraft that is unable to fly faster than the speed of sound, does not really mean anything today. We have way more comfortable aircrafts today. Aviation is getting safer and safer each day
747 is a pure classic too, seeing it take off on a sunny bright day is just marvelous so sad that it too will be nothing but a memory and on video before we know it.
No it wouldn't have. People would much rather pay $20k for a luxurious seat on the 747 or 777 rather than fly on the Concorde on the seats you'd find on Spirit or Ryanair. Most airlines today can't even sell out their first class cabin throughout the year, and rely on people using miles or free upgrades to use them. Now imagine what the economics are for the concorde which is essentially a 100 seat first class-exclusive cabin in terms of price
@@harshallashar1069 you are a bit thick. The evidence is in your face and amazingly also in your own statement and you ignored it, people paid premium for the exclusive journey speed of Concorde, that is fact even after the crash when the trust had to be won back. The value of the price point had nothing to do with the width of the seating isle, you wouldn't get much use out of a first class cabin in a 3 hour flight anyway. Then you start blabbing on about the poor value of first class cabins on long duration flights, a complete irrelevance because Concorde had a monopoly on a niche premium market. It was taken out of service because the parts were becoming too costly to maintain and the airline industry has moved to one where fuel efficiency was paramount. Quite different to the 1960s when Concorde was designed, note flight cabins in the 50s were far more spacious and luxurious than todays first class
@@harshallashar1069Only because the first class in normal plane doesn't take you anywhere faster than the economy class. You only pay shitloads of money for prestige, luxury service and a good deal of snobbery
I've have been lucky enough to see the Duxford one. Quite small i must say, and very very elegant ! The very best of British and French design(and possibly other's) .
I was an apprentice aero-engineer at the National Gas Turbine Establishment, Pyestock, Hants. The first thing I ever drafted was a section through an Olympus exhaust turbine blade highlighting the air cooling passages spark-eroded through it. As an engineer, at the time, I thought the design was foolhardy - though beautiful. We should have built an efficient (which the Concorde ridiculously wasn't) twin-engined people carrier like the Boeing 737. America did, and Britain waited a quarter century before it became able to part-build an Airbus. There were more than fifty British aircraft companies after WW2. Where are they now? (The N.G.T.E. is now a cow pasture.)
The British Aircraft Corporation at Stevenage were a customer of mine in the 1970's when I was a young salesman selling industrial equipment. I remember seeing a white nose cone sitting outside one of the buildings where I was doing a quote for some work. If I recall correctly, theat particular part of the business at the time was making guided missiles so I asked the person I was with what missile that was for and was surprised to be told it was a Concord nose cone. So I don't know whether that was where they were all made and then shipped to Filton, or whether that was just one that was there for some other purpose.
@@phillipbanes5484there being putative reasons for it ending and yet NASA continues to do work contributing towards Supersonic transport is why I remark. Why, if it's "not worth it", continue to work on it?
@@phillipbanes5484NASA's own Quesst page: "Reaction to the quieter sonic "thumps" will be shared with regulators who will then consider writing new sound-based rules to lift the ban on faster-than-sound flight over land". Isn't it remarkable, given "not worth it"?
I recently went to the Bristol Aerospace museum at Filton to see that same, last Concorde, the one being built in 79 at Filton. Even in retirement it is a magical aircraft to experience close up. I cannot imagine how awesome it would have been to have flown on it.
Despite it being essentially the plaything of the rich and famous, I think Britain should be as proud of its achievement with Concorde as the United States was with the space programme. At least relative to our size and capabilities as a nation.
The best of both worlds: English engine makers and French aerodynamicists, to invent this magnificent aircraft. A real heartbreak to see his career end so sadly, after the Americans did everything to harm him commercially.
Concorde remains a pinnacle of aviation engineering, more along the lines of the Space Shuttle than subsonic aircraft. Accomplishing what they managed to do with the absolute 100% reliability and repeatability required for a public service was an incredible achievement.
Remember going up to Hurn Airport and seeing it land on the new extended runway. Then taking off. Man the noise was amazing. My dad worked at BAC Hurn and worked on Concorde for a short time at Filton. Pity the guys prediction of faster aircraft in the 90s didn't come true. For those who dont know Hurn airport is now called Bournemouth International Airport. We locals hate callong it that. It will always be Hurn Airport.
That dedication to a craft, creating a machine so exquisitely detailed, inventing ways to solve problems and answer questions never posed before. No matter their role, all who worked to get that magnificent aircraft flying should be so very proud of themselves.
I love it when you watch an old documentary and someone tries to predict the future. By the mid nineties, commercial planes will be bigger and faster because we always go forward. You'd think it's a no-brainer, but nope, no progress since the seventies.
That's not really true. No really obvious advances in shape or speed, but huge advances in engine reliability and efficiency. The first RB211 in 1970 had a life of 1,000hrs. Now engines have upwards of 35,000 hrs. As for faster, unfortunately physics gets in the way, supersonic requires just so much more power than subsonic that it's just not cost-effective, and like it or not, bean-counters rule the world.
The white Lab coats the scrupulous attention to detail......... take note Boeing!!!! No Concorde whistlebowers had to die in any cover-ups for this engineering miracle.
And I believe stealth was a top priority of Concorde. I heard that main reason PanAm cancelled their order was because it was so bad at penetrating enemy radars…
I moved to Heathrow from Stafford for work in 1992, at one of the Hotels on the Bath Road..I remember going whenever I could to Hatton Cross Tube station at the far side of Heathrow to watch it take off , it used to set all the car alarms off.. you should see the state of the Concorde at Heathrow now, behind fences and needing a good wash..it should have pride of place at Heathrow.. but you watch, as soon as they retire the A380s that will be on display, don’t get me wrong i love that plane too, but we went back 40 odd years when they retired Concorde.
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I can't wait for the mid 90s to see the bigger and faster version.
The model that blew up over Paris in 2000!
The Aerospatiale ATSF / British Aerospace AST (Alliance)
It was a SST proposal made by the builders of the Concorde during the in late 1980s and early 1990s as a replacement for said aircraft, with expected development to begin in the late 1990s and early 2000s. It was to seat between 200-230 passengers, cruise at Mach 1.7 which was necessary due to the desire to build the plane out of less exotic, cheaper and ultimately less heat resistant aluminium alloys to the Concorde in an effort to reduce costs.
Theres very little on this SST out there besides some concept art. If you wish to look it up on google then the following will likely yield the most results "Alliance AST Plane" or "Aerospatiale ATSF". The design seems to have been gone through 3-4 iterations with the largest getting into the region of 300ft to 311ft in length.
SOURCE'S:
-There is a wikipedia article on the plane under the heading "Avion de Transport Supersonique Futur" (Don't worry the rest is in English!)
-The webpage on "secretprojects.co.uk" (forum site) with a page entitled "The Aerospatiale ATSF (Alliance)/ British Aerospace AST" features some info and material
-On Facebook there is a group entitled "IPMS.(UK.) 'Project Cancelled SIG.' (UK. & commonwealth) alt. modelling" if you type "Alliance" into a group search that features 29 pictures of various things. Newspaper clippings, concept art, models etc
They did not foresee the coming rise in fuel price and environmental concerns. It's sad that we don't even reach half the speed of the Concorde in airliners of today.
@@skunkjobb You mean sonic boom and noise pollution, that was main reason why it got removed. Its biggest advantage - speed - turned out to be its biggest weakness.
it is crazy that when it was taken out of use the top speed of travel on earth went down and hasn't come back in 24 years
The one being built here is G-BOAF, which made the last Concorde flight in 2003, and is now permanently on display at Filton.
It was dumped outside of Airbus for a long time!
G-BOAC is on display in a building at Manchester Airport - I took my son to see it (you get a full tour and can sit in the cockpit). It was unbelievable considering the decade it was designed and manufactured.
YES disgraceful, BUT---the local Council was, at that time, on the verge of being broke. The government should have stepped in.@@JohnSmith-ei2pz
Every person who helped build Concorde should at least have been given a free flight!!!
We did get a chance from time to time if there was a test flight and they needed some ballast. A couple of my workmates went up but sadly I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
@@zanellewellyn1667 My Dad was part of the team at Marshalls that worked on and designed the droop nose. He's never been up in one but we did visit the Concorde at Duxford when I was a kid.
I thought exactly the same when I heard that lady speak
agreed - every hand that touched the bird in the building process should have qualified for a free flight .
Indeed.
"Quality Supervisor". Boeing take note.
And Boeing isn't even designing something new and ground breaking with the 737 😂😂😂
Boeing is the largest aerospace manufacturer in the world, what happened to BAC???
Boeing builds the safest aircraft in the world hands down
They've taken a note, but it'll be used as roach by Friday.
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke It's now BAE Systems.
Nothing will replace Concorde, not even the Boom Overture. She was built in an age where more love and care went into such marvels of engineering.
I would attribute it more to a prideful competition instead, nowadays it would never get off the drawing board once the calculations for costs were made and the tests with sonic booms and people's perception around it were taken into account. In fact that is a big part of what killed the US versions of supersonic transport. The Europeans kept at it cause in the end of the day, someone still had to win against the Soviets.
So much love and care it blew into flames
@@H.hipster The one and only tragic accident in it's entire operaitonal history...and caused by debris on the runway from another aeroplane
I grew up near Filton runway in the 70’s and 80’s used to watch Concorde engine testing at the end of Filton runway next to the M5. She was something special. Saw her last flight to Filton as well. 😢 she’s sorely missed.
I'm a local too. Grew up right under the flight path. Each year during the family open day my dad used to take me into the factory so I got to see them at various stages of construction. Even got to go inside a couple before they were finished. I even remember going to Aust services to watch the first one flying down the Severn. The hillside was covered in BAC and Rolls families. Happy memories indeed.
People expressed themselves very precisely and understandingly
The usual colloquialism ... the IQs have dropped
The flightpath for Concord was over my house, it was always a treat to see it from the garden.
Same here. My childhood home in Twickenham. My Grandad used to visit and watch in amazement as the sliding doors shook.
We never realised we were already in the future back in the 60s/70s. Some of my most vivid childhood memories are feeling my whole body vibrate as it went overhead. Similar to the vulcan flying by. Unless you experience it, it's hard to imagine. Pure power!
I lived on the edge of Filton airfield in 1990, weird to think that it's closed and all the Vulcans and Concordes that used to use it are scrapped or in museums now. Back then it seemed like Concorde would go on forever.
I remember, as a young teen, seeing the Concorde take off in Rio de Janeiro, and fly overhead, with a thunder so massive, it felt like the world was ending. Later it became my favourite manufactured industrial product of all time
I grew up in south-west London in the 1980s, under the path of Concorde's takeoff climb-out. The friend I used to walk to school with once remarked that, "it sometimes seems like it's splitting the sky," which is the best description I ever heard of that incredible sound.
Would love to know what some of your other favourite industrial products are. (Seriously)
Rapaz, ver um brasileiro aqui e que lembre do Concorde, que coisa.
Still always find it so surreal seeing a machine that still looks so futuristic and industry leading on old film reels... absolute tragedy the full dream was never fully realised :/
How I miss that generation of talented people who modernized the world, with effort and hard work.
I think that the unique color had something to do with it. The culture as well
The day the Concord stopped flying and there wasn't anything more advanced and disruptive being planned or built in aviation, was the first in my life I felt that the constant progress I had been witnessing until then might start to unwind. From there on, it has been disappointment, after disappointment, amazing idiocy, after amazing idiocy, in this continued regression of ours.
I remember doing a primary school project about the concorde in the 70s. On the 28 september 79 i remember staring at the date on the blacboard and thinking about what amazing technology the future would bring. I never imagined a backwards step.
Is it really such a step backward?
@@Hans-gb4mv We were on the brink of jet travel for all and now they even fly jumbo jets slower than 20 years ago. I'd call that a backwards step.
@@MrDirkles 👍👍
@@MrDirkles You mean we don't have jet travel for all today? EasyJet and Ryanair? You got it completely opposite, instead of the elite going between London and New York at supersonic speeds, we go slow so that we can have Wizz Air.
@@MrDirklesYes, but probably more affordable than ever (bar some price fluctuations). Compare (regular) London to NYC flight prices between 2003 and 2023, and there is a large difference. Is that really a step backwards? For those who want to fly supersonic in this day and age and can afford it; buy an old MiG, and you still can!
Concorde is the most beautiful airliner ever built.
I agree.
One of the most beautiful aircraft ever built. Period.
Efficient aircraft tend to look good, like the Spifire and the Concorde
Agree Spitfire and Concorde, they are both No.1 on my list.
Concorde and the 747 just pure classic designs, it's sad that even the 747 will see it's end of service sooner than later. Now all you are left with are 2 engine tubes that all look alike, I guess fuel price wins. Maybe if fuel prices rise enough we will get back to regular scheduled Ocean Liners now that would be something else.
My Grandad was an engineer on the Concorde project, which remains a point of great pride for me. I wish I'd had a chance to fly on it.
My dad worked at Filton and Derby on the Olympus engines. He was an apprentice so maybe didn’t take a key role and I watch all of these old videos hoping to see him. He has passed away now. He also worked on the Pegasus engines for the Harrier during the demand of the Falklands War. I still live in the Bristol area and often pass the old Filton runway which , when I was child would have all sorts of interesting aircraft such as the Super Guppy and other aircraft testing engines etc, it’s now mostly a housing estate,
Interesting comment regarding his hopes for the 1990s and faster aircraft at 3:50
There actually was a proposal for a successor in the late 80s and early 90s. If you type either "Alliance AST Plane" or "Aerospatiale ATSF" you should see some concept art/models
@@NightHeronProduction thank you. I’ll do some research. Appreciate the information 👍
@@NightHeronProduction thank you. I’ll do some research. Appreciate the information 👍
Shame Bristol didn't keep Filton at its airport.
The last generation of engineers who were incredibly literate . Th pick of the British engineering days
Remember when education used to mean something.
i like how old unique and probably classified documentary are more and more on youtube
Videos like this make me both proud and sad. Proud of what we could once achieve as a nation. Sad because of what our nation has now been reduced to.😞
Yes, but no one can take it away from us... 😊
a shithole countrie? 🙃
Thank you so much for highlighting the story of the men and women that built this marvelous machine!
the sad feeling I got when the gentlemen saying about the supersonic passenger flight we would have by the mid 90s. I mean at least Concorde was still flying then, I remember Filton in 2003 getting wet in the rain when it came back for the final time.
I lived under the Heathrow flight path when I was a kid, watch the last 3 flights come in together.
My Grandfather worked on the development of the Concorde, & the Bristol Brabazon! I'm still very proud of that.
9:44 wow she looks pissed off!
He was much happier being at work! Haha.
@@_chipchip totally agree🤣😂🤣👍
They were the days when wives didn't have fake tans,hair extensions, trout lips and big arses hanging out in wine bars before school pickup and feeding the kids in Macky "D"s 😂
Your comment setts the world on a higher level. So for all others you can see to what brain using leads when you watch the film . And in some comments you can see what " no brain" can do ......
@@martinbohm399 like yours.
I appreciate the perspective of the couple and how the work affected their family
The unsung guys who made it work.
Observe the color
@@gdiwolverinemale4th Colour.
You mean no n.. or w...
This should have been the future of aviation!!
Brilliant and a big thank you for posting - I have a memory of watching this a long time ago - so much respect and appreciation needs to be acknowledged to those involved in the development and assembly of this quite unique masterpiece of engineering.
Makes me sad to think about Alan and his wife, whose marriage suffered to some extent because he kept working on the Concorde. It was a magnificent set of aircrafts but then it didn't last very long and neither lead the way for other supersonic routes as they had imagined. No matter how important work seems, ultimately its nowhere as important as family!
Their kids seemed to have suffered too. And as you say all for what? A stark reminder to always put family first.
She’s right next to you Alan. Ask her.
Sharing the hangar with USAF F111s I see!
As a student at the nearby Bristol Polytechnic in the 70s, I can remember driving past Filton and seeing Concordes. As I remember, they tested engines most Thursdays out on Filton’s runway - the sound could be heard everywhere in the city
By far the best and greatest passenger jet in history.
Love for their Entreprises & many were small Private Ltd Companies hiring passionate people about aviation & aircraft , under people oriented management & good honest quality controllers to produced these Magnificient Concordes for the British Airways , Air France & Singapore Airlines back in the 1970s ... Sadly one Concorde was being damaged & crashed due to a loose metal part dropped by an earlier Airliner on the runway that punctured the fuel tank & other control systems that crashed the concorde while taking off that lead to the begining of the retirement of these Magnificient Concorde Airliners ... Thank You So Much for all these Passionate Teams who help built us these Magnificient Concorde! ... 🙏🌷🌿🌏✌💜🕊🇬🇧🇫🇷
Engineering at its very best.. A truly great machine built by great engineers..
Most supersonic flight hours of any aircraft made
Biggest failure in commercial aviation history
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerkeIt was never an engineering failure. At the time this was the Pinnacle of aeronautical engineering on the planet. As far as becoming a widely used aircraft, there were issues and opposition that changed its viable future. But it was NEVER a failure.
@@bobolulu7615 They why were no Concordes sold?
The Concorde was a unmitgated 65 million pound financial failure that completely gutted BAC and the UK aircraft industry
@@phillipbanes5484 Excellent comment, excellent point. America clearly knew alot more about supersonic aircraft which is exactly why they opted not to build SSTs
Miss you Concorde 😢
Glad my mother drove me an hour to Columbus, OH to see Concorde land there once. A rare treat.
Also got to see a Sikorsky Sky Crane that used to be stationed around there. And the Goodyear blimp would fly by our house as we lived on a line between the Buckeyes stadium and the blimp base in Akron, OH.
the most beautiful passenger aircraft ever made.
Freddy the Assembly Manager had no idea that by 2024 the only and last commercial supersonic flight was going to be the plane he was building in 1979.
Speedbird Concorde Alpha Foxtrot, saw her at Christchurch , New Zealand on her round the world trip.
It is pure crazy to think that what was revolutionary then is still so today, a faster way to travel by air is still yet to be achieved, back to the drawing board.
"The man in charge of the ground crew was another wally ..." Steady on!
Absolutely an amazing plane though!
man I wish I could've seen the concorde fly but its still cool seeing it in the aerospace museum at filton
3:43 my heart sank listening to Mr Price say that. Bean counting has proven to be the bane of human existence, we were not built to count pennies for a greater share dividend but to chase after the angels. How far have we fallen
A Jumbo jet passenger crosses the Atlantic using SIXTEEN TIMES LESS FUEL than a Concorde passenger. Ignorance is bliss. And expensive.
What an awesome aircraft indeed. This was (at least in my mind) a commercial SR-71
No way! The SR-71 was way more improvised (in the meaning of riding on the edge of feasibility) and could never be flown from a normal airport.
I miss these things flying over head. They still seem ahead of their time in 2024.
What a great documentary and with a very pleasant ending!
Had the opportunity to spend hours on F-BVFC in Toulouse when on AirBus assembly to get a new A320. It was an iconic day in my carreer.
Saw the first one taking off then did apprenticeship there ...still got a white painted vintage motorcycle ( my brother worked in the paint shop ) 👍
My great uncle workied with ba back in the day and a few years ago we cleared out my grandads loft (his brother) as we wanted him to move in with us during covid. He had a box full of brand new Concorde paraphernalia that was given to the passengers. Leather bound notepads, solid silver letter openers etc. was so interesting going through it all. Still have it up our loft. Sold a few peices on eBay. I think the first flight was from Glasgow as my mum has a photo of it passing over the house.
Mechanics wearing a tie. Respect.
When you consider this aircraft was designed and built 60 years after the Wright brothers, took to the air at Kittyhawk we don’t seem to have gotten even back to this point in commercial airline development some 50 years later.
This is such a terrible take based on nostalgia and comes from people who don't have an idea about our engineering capabilities in other fields. You think we haven't made development just because we don't have a supersonic airliner? Flying has been made cheaper and accessible to everyone, while being safer than driving on the road. We have a range of jets today that can fly to even small towns and be economical and comfortable. The concorde experience would be considered shockingly bad by modern standards today because you can get a lie flat bed and a good night of sleep for the price as a cramped seat on the Concorde. Supersonic travel will never make sense for the masses because it's just way too expensive
You are wrong. Air travels are way too much safer now than those in old days and that is a significant advancement. Just because we do not have a Passenger aircraft that is unable to fly faster than the speed of sound, does not really mean anything today. We have way more comfortable aircrafts today. Aviation is getting safer and safer each day
I love how this starts as your usual technology documentary and suddenly becomes a quaint, intimist family drama in the last section.
Really interesting footage!
What a beautiful aircraft. Wish it was still flying.
An amazing piece of engineering.
I remember seeing the sad footage July 2000 💛
I watched them come into Heathrow from Richmond Hill in Richmond Park with hundreds of others, It was a sad day indeed.
@@danielraiterThat must of been great to see!
My two favorite aircraft are
Concord
Vulcan.
Amazing machines.
747 is a pure classic too, seeing it take off on a sunny bright day is just marvelous so sad that it too will be nothing but a memory and on video before we know it.
Brilliant
Work of art
The days when Britain was great and men & women were the backbone of British manufacturing
The Concorde was brilliant. If it wasn’t for a part falling off one of our American built aircraft they might still be in service.
Also as with anything, creating replacement parts for maintenance starts to become uneconomic as time passes
Nope.
No it wouldn't have. People would much rather pay $20k for a luxurious seat on the 747 or 777 rather than fly on the Concorde on the seats you'd find on Spirit or Ryanair. Most airlines today can't even sell out their first class cabin throughout the year, and rely on people using miles or free upgrades to use them. Now imagine what the economics are for the concorde which is essentially a 100 seat first class-exclusive cabin in terms of price
@@harshallashar1069 you are a bit thick. The evidence is in your face and amazingly also in your own statement and you ignored it, people paid premium for the exclusive journey speed of Concorde, that is fact even after the crash when the trust had to be won back. The value of the price point had nothing to do with the width of the seating isle, you wouldn't get much use out of a first class cabin in a 3 hour flight anyway. Then you start blabbing on about the poor value of first class cabins on long duration flights, a complete irrelevance because Concorde had a monopoly on a niche premium market. It was taken out of service because the parts were becoming too costly to maintain and the airline industry has moved to one where fuel efficiency was paramount. Quite different to the 1960s when Concorde was designed, note flight cabins in the 50s were far more spacious and luxurious than todays first class
@@harshallashar1069Only because the first class in normal plane doesn't take you anywhere faster than the economy class. You only pay shitloads of money for prestige, luxury service and a good deal of snobbery
2:09 Most appropriate surname for an aircraft builder
I've have been lucky enough to see the Duxford one. Quite small i must say, and very very elegant ! The very best of British and French design(and possibly other's) .
I was an apprentice aero-engineer at the National Gas Turbine Establishment, Pyestock, Hants. The first thing I ever drafted was a section through an Olympus exhaust turbine blade highlighting the air cooling passages spark-eroded through it.
As an engineer, at the time, I thought the design was foolhardy - though beautiful. We should have built an efficient (which the Concorde ridiculously wasn't) twin-engined people carrier like the Boeing 737. America did, and Britain waited a quarter century before it became able to part-build an Airbus.
There were more than fifty British aircraft companies after WW2. Where are they now? (The N.G.T.E. is now a cow pasture.)
The British Aircraft Corporation at Stevenage were a customer of mine in the 1970's when I was a young salesman selling industrial equipment. I remember seeing a white nose cone sitting outside one of the buildings where I was doing a quote for some work. If I recall correctly, theat particular part of the business at the time was making guided missiles so I asked the person I was with what missile that was for and was surprised to be told it was a Concord nose cone. So I don't know whether that was where they were all made and then shipped to Filton, or whether that was just one that was there for some other purpose.
I remember taking off in a 747 from LHR to JFK, and the flightdesk said, "On the left, you will see the Concorde". All the passengers pivoted!
Amazing to hear him say in the 1990s they'll be bigger and faster..little did he know Concord would be retired and so did supersonic passenger travel
Odd looking back on the reasons for it ending while at the same time NASA still working on it: "X-59"
@@phillipbanes5484there being putative reasons for it ending and yet NASA continues to do work contributing towards Supersonic transport is why I remark. Why, if it's "not worth it", continue to work on it?
@@phillipbanes5484NASA's own Quesst page: "Reaction to the quieter sonic "thumps" will be shared with regulators who will then consider writing new sound-based rules to lift the ban on faster-than-sound flight over land". Isn't it remarkable, given "not worth it"?
@@phillipbanes5484 Troll spotted
@@phillipbanes5484wasn’t worth keeping around? BA certainly were eager to get it back in service
I recently went to the Bristol Aerospace museum at Filton to see that same, last Concorde, the one being built in 79 at Filton. Even in retirement it is a magical aircraft to experience close up. I cannot imagine how awesome it would have been to have flown on it.
Despite it being essentially the plaything of the rich and famous, I think Britain should be as proud of its achievement with Concorde as the United States was with the space programme. At least relative to our size and capabilities as a nation.
It looked like something from Thunderbirds but real, fanatic jet
Fireflash. It always reminded me of Concorde.
The best of both worlds: English engine makers and French aerodynamicists, to invent this magnificent aircraft.
A real heartbreak to see his career end so sadly, after the Americans did everything to harm him commercially.
Part 2 please !!!
Concorde remains a pinnacle of aviation engineering, more along the lines of the Space Shuttle than subsonic aircraft. Accomplishing what they managed to do with the absolute 100% reliability and repeatability required for a public service was an incredible achievement.
Umm one concord. blew up and 2 shuttles blew up both rank at the bottom per units made.
Is the rest of the video going to be posted ? The entire video used be on TH-cam a few years ago but disappeared.
Superb.
Concordski and Concorde beautiful
It would be nice if you could upload the entire Documentary.
What a cheerful, bun
Time to get Concorde back in the air!
At about 3:30, two F-111s are being worked on. How strange!
BAe used to service US Air Force F-111s at Filton back in the eighties
im die hard concorde fan, forever queen of skies 🔥
“We had the time of our lives testing all the systems…” what I would give for a rewarding job like that today.
Still no one beat this Flying Bird~~ Proud & Pride of Grate Britain ~~~~ so sorry I can't hear any more the sounds of Concorde Ladning in HEATHROW
Remember going up to Hurn Airport and seeing it land on the new extended runway. Then taking off. Man the noise was amazing. My dad worked at BAC Hurn and worked on Concorde for a short time at Filton. Pity the guys prediction of faster aircraft in the 90s didn't come true. For those who dont know Hurn airport is now called Bournemouth International Airport. We locals hate callong it that. It will always be Hurn Airport.
I was lucky enough to work at both Hurn and Filton in the 1990s… don’t think I ever saw a Concorde at either of them though!
@@scottishwildcat April 21st 1996 Concorde was at Hurn Airport. Think it was organised by Bath Travel.
That dedication to a craft, creating a machine so exquisitely detailed, inventing ways to solve problems and answer questions never posed before. No matter their role, all who worked to get that magnificent aircraft flying should be so very proud of themselves.
I love it when you watch an old documentary and someone tries to predict the future. By the mid nineties, commercial planes will be bigger and faster because we always go forward. You'd think it's a no-brainer, but nope, no progress since the seventies.
That's not really true. No really obvious advances in shape or speed, but huge advances in engine reliability and efficiency. The first RB211 in 1970 had a life of 1,000hrs. Now engines have upwards of 35,000 hrs. As for faster, unfortunately physics gets in the way, supersonic requires just so much more power than subsonic that it's just not cost-effective, and like it or not, bean-counters rule the world.
There was something special about concorde in the 80's for me as a child there was nothing more classy pilots hostesses the livery the SPEED
Very interesting video.
To think that there was a time where 'progress had never stopped'.
Good ol days
No one on their deathbed ever says “gee, I wish I’d spent more time at work”
Last flight was in 2003, i thought it was only a few years ago. Getting old sucks.
The white Lab coats the scrupulous attention to detail......... take note Boeing!!!! No Concorde whistlebowers had to die in any cover-ups for this engineering miracle.
Straight outta "Thunderbirds"!
I love Britain ❤
😂
I wonder how many Canadians from the Avro Arrow project worked on the Concorde???
Wood have love to have flown in it ✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️
I got to see the Concorde and SR-71 on E-3 radar back in the 80's. They painted like a barn. No stealth at all.
And I believe stealth was a top priority of Concorde. I heard that main reason PanAm cancelled their order was because it was so bad at penetrating enemy radars…
I moved to Heathrow from Stafford for work in 1992, at one of the Hotels on the Bath Road..I remember going whenever I could to Hatton Cross Tube station at the far side of Heathrow to watch it take off , it used to set all the car alarms off.. you should see the state of the Concorde at Heathrow now, behind fences and needing a good wash..it should have pride of place at Heathrow.. but you watch, as soon as they retire the A380s that will be on display, don’t get me wrong i love that plane too, but we went back 40 odd years when they retired Concorde.