Norinco T97 Bullpup: The Type 97/QBZ 95 Back in Canada
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- The latest version of the Norinco T97, imported by North Sylva as the T97NSR, manufactured by EMI aka Norinco in the People's Republic of China. This bullpup 5.56 rifle is non-restricted in Canada, and accepts most AR-15 magazines.
This rifle uses a short stroke gas piston and a rotating bolt, along with a reciprocating charging handle.
The T97 was originally imported as non-restricted until an RCMP investigation discovered that they could be easily converted to full-auto. That model was re-classified as a prohibited firearm and all those in private hands were confiscated (I believe the federal government paid $800 each for them to the owners).
Also, I think the simplicity of the T97 is a real selling point. It's so simple to disassemble, and the cleaning kit it comes with is really awesome. It also keeps very clean, as with all piston guns. Accuracywise, with the after market mount from SFRC and a very inexpensive scope, I'm able to get 5 round, 1" groups at 50 yards.
I also mounted a scope but cheeck rest was to low so I bought a Magpul cheeck riser on EBay that I cut whit Dremel to fit perfect and put some velcro now sits very tight
I could never justify getting a 5.56 rifle for more then 1k, so I bought this rifle.
Very happy with my purchase!
People from the U.S. complaining they can't get Chinese firearms when they can get by far more firearms than any other country on the planet.
Mya Elbows we want them all! muuaahahah!
lol. this is all we have, leave us alone!
The Gorgon dude i love your profile picture and name. Gorgonites!
Kyle Hall YES! someone who gets it!
Better watch out.. i think i saw a Maj. CHIP HAZARD around here somewhere...
That was a fair assessment of a Type 97. It is most definitely not on par with a Tavor or AUG. It is non-restricted and inexpensive but lacks the ergonomics of a fighting firearm. Solid video.
Mathaius833
They used to be available
The three people I know who had or still have their's.
Liked the AUG
Mathaius833 I always look at that broomhandle grip and say "no thanks." It was a revolutionary gun when it first came out, and the Australians have done well with theirs, but personally I wouldn't buy one either.
Mathaius833, Thanks, but my opinion on firearms is not based off some COD fantasy. Spent time using F88S-A1Cs and SA-80s (after the HK mod) in operational environment. The AUG is fair superior to a Type 97. And has advantages over the Tavor especially in the A5 variant. First saw the Tavor close up six years ago while in South East Asia. Impressed by the feedback by some of my Israeli buddies. That the reason for my preferences.
@@WilliamGuse you can be anything you want on the internet including a fake soldier
One of the only guns you Canadians have that we can't get here in the USA thanks to Chinese import ban. At least we finally got an IWI Tavor here also.
We have alot of guns you can't get or are hard to get
Actually a cool firearm. I wish I could get one in the states, cheers.
The magazine release for type 97 is a specific modification for export purpose to adapt standard AR magazines. But Norinco obviously didn't put much thought in it. But that's not what the Chinese army uses. The type 95 used by Chinese Army has an AK like magazine release.
The safety switch is a little bit awkward on type 95 too, but since the gun is pretty light and has a good balanced on one hand, Chinese soldiers are trained to handle the switch with left hands. Put your left hand on the stock, when you can feel the bump, your thumb will be right on the switch. It's still not quite convenience but at least you don't have to use your eyes to check where the switch is :).
I dont have a problem with the mag release, For me I come back with my right hand off the pistol grip and change the mag. I dont understand why people use their left hand when it feels fucking horrible, but using your right hand feels alot better.
Got mine for 800$ taxes in, love it.
It is good ?
I remember using this rifle in Battlefield 2: Modern Combat back in 2006 but it was the QBZ-95. Great rifle, never jammed on me and I never had to clean it.
Thank you china.......
我是呀
不谢
不用谢
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I wish we could have these in the US. They are just cool rifles, even if the ergos are bad.
Wow. You control the recoil like you're firing a .22 LR. Truly amazed.
This gun has a fair bit of weight to it (balanced weight at least) so it's very easy to deal with recoil. Lots of women I've gone shooting with love it and hate the SKS due to the recoil.
Very cool, I'm often jealous of you Canadians and your access to certain firearms. Especially your $250-$300 SVT-40's!
Hey we go to the same range . And I'm actually picking up a type 97 this week and heading out there. Thanks for the great video
Well, the original QBZ-95's mag release is AK style. You can do a tactical reload by hitting the mag release with a fresh mag. Type 97 has been modified to take STANAG, with an AR style mag release. And in QBZ 95-1, the safety is within reach of your thumb.
i like using chinese gun like this in BF4 lol they don't look ugly at all since it is a bullpup
Yes bro~Chinese army have already used Type 95-1 which with all the improved spec you mentioned. The improvement will be added to the export version soon.
LOVE CHINA!
谢谢～thank you
@@exusiai-val hey I'm Chinese
Nice video Eddie. Looks like a cold day though. Pew Pew!
Good video, short but sweet!
Thanks for giving me some proper hands on time with the gun!
TV-PressPass
Any time!
As somebody who has yet to get their PAL, I find it so weird that this is non-restricted yet an AR-15 is. So I guess guns aren't restricted because they look "scary". I find the reasonings very confusing.
+Colton Blumhagen It's a right mess. It all boils down the regulations laid out in SOR/98-462 and the meaning of the word variant. Those guns, and guns like them, were deemed "too dangerous" at the time the law was written. But of course new firearms are like new iphones: there's something different every year. So the law hasn't really kept up.
Of course, there's also nothing more "dangerous" about the firearms on that list than any other firearm. Canadian Firearms law is a prime example what is known as Security Theater.
Well... Type 97 is a civilian version of Type 95 that fires NATO 556 only, so it doesn't have any room to add a red dot or a grenade launcher. But for a real type 95, it can add many things.
Could you please upload a cleaning and maintenance video. I would appreciate that so much thanks!
On the second case of ammo with mine and with the proper mags (Gen 2 PMAGS) it's beem 100% reliable. Now if somebody would come out with a trigger mod and proper mag release it may be the best non-restricted for under a $1000 you can buy.
I want one of these they should sell these in the United States and I would so buy this
They can't because of import laws between us and Canada. Also we have an import ban with China so we can't have any Norinco weapons come over
About time you ended your prejudices against norinco, you should try out a few mags to give us owners some insight of what to look out for.
Actually the first handgun I ever owned was a Norinco 1911!
gun store where i am is selling one of these for $1300 cdn, but instead of the carry handle it has a mounting rail that is around 14" long, it is a nice gun.
Ah! That would be the T97 with the FTU installed from T97.ca! They do really cool M14 parts too!
yeah that is it, looks really nice.
Check out My Little T97 vid, the barrel clamp mounted TRS25 has held zero after 500 rounds, shoots to 4 MOA, and cowitnesses perfectly with the irons set to 100. The dot is a bit higher than the front post with the 500 yard setting, but the 500 is the easiest to use the red dot with.
That is probably a version of the first version of the QBZ-95, since later versions have the mag release and fir selector closer to the pistol grip.
busukevm I'm pretty sure the Mag release is still behind the mag, you're right on the fire selector though.
What winter camo is that?
It took the RCMP 18 months to figure out how to convert one to Full auto, they refuse to say how they did it.
What really happened?
That's sitka's Open Country pattern. The pattern is designed here in Canada by HyperStealth. Warm too!
Wish we could get them here in the US. Could you make a vid on the current Canadian gun laws?
I dunno! I hate watching 15 minute videos, and I'm not sure I can condense the craziness of Canadian gun-law into 3 minutes!
great video, thanks for sharing.
Great review THANKS !
When fitting optics on these they will be higher up, how does that change reticle usage? I.e two lines with very little offset of angle will stay quite true throughout distance, but as the optical is much higher the angle pointing downwards to zero is more aggressive?
Hey man! good stuff! i loved the video and love your review style! good stuff my freind
Seems like a poor man's Tavor, but from what I'm seeing and hearing it's still reliable and reasonably accurate with the proper mags.
Is this rifle has tennical problems or not it this rifle work at 1000 rounds?
Wow great,but where did you buy it from.Becuz it is from Chinese army
This firearm is available in a Civilian configuration in Canada. Many retailers here sell them to licensed individuals.
Reliability test of military version Part 3/3
[我爱发明 HQ] 终极火力 / 揭秘95式突击步枪 3/3
Interesting rifle. Thanks.
Is this gun a restricted firearm in Canada? I really want to carry this gun anywhere without ATT : D
non-restricted :D
I take it when I go camping
QBZ-95G latest version have fixed the safety issue.
Good report.
I just realized the Canadians coined the term full semi-automatic before we did
Who makes the winter camo jacket you wear?
+Christian Moroski Sitka, pretty expensive stuff, but really cool camo patterns
Type 97 looks very uncomfortable to use.I have shot a type 95,it has the safety on the pistol grip,can be switched easily.Its light,AK-ish mag change,can be done single handed,Just bang the mag toward the pin,it just slides in.Only thing i hate is the long ass trigger. But seriously,why they changed all the good things?
more videos on this rifle please
Asking here cause no one has the answers. How many5.56 will fit into a ten round 7.62 xcr pistol mag? They look awefully similar to 20 round 5.56 dont they?
отдача сильная с калашом так не трясет
Any chance you have a cleaning and maintenance video?
When the hell did they reclassify the t97?
Hardly a surprise since it seems every gun ever made is being reclassified. Soon double barrel shot guns will be reclassed
For 1000 I think I would go the VZ route and save about 200 or maybe just wait until the CZ 858 is legal again.
is legal the 30Rd magazine in Canada?
+lovingmyglock21 Negative. Semi-automatic rifles are limited to 5 rounds in Canada by means of a rivet or crimping. However, 10 round pistol magazines and misloading smaller calibers into larger magazines are common methods of achieving competitive capacity in STANAG rifles
It's illegal. BUT you can use 30r mag to replace it easily if you have one. Since T-97 use the same mag as any AR-15
Do you guys get SKS's? The SG works bullpup conversion is also a lot of fun. I just built one for $450. And it's 7.62x39
yes we have $180 sks. converting to bullpup is illegal however.
Where can I get one of these in the United States
"FULLY SEMI" you said it before carnik-con
hows the recoil compared to a r15 and also its accuracy
Please give your opinion about Bill S-231."Strengthening Canadian's Security and Promoting Hunting and Recreational Shooting Act". Proposed June 22, 2015, you can search the details on google. Thank you.
Would you suggest this over a cx 4 storm? I'm weighing my options. being able to shoot 9mm at an indoor range could be VERY nice.
+Fishfins They're totally different firearms! The Cx4 is a 9mm sub gun, but you can find non-restricted versions. The T97 is a full size 5.56 gun. If you like both, I'd get both, because they will fill dramatically different roles in your gunsafe.
Alrighty. Which would you say is preferable for the FIRST of the two? Going to look into proper ranges in Calgary and surrounding area this year as the corrosive ammo for the SKS and Mosin are fun and all, but I've less time to get out of town as much anymore with more responsibilities in town
+Fishfins The T97 is awesome. I like it.
looks like a modify version of ar15?
See the fine sand reliability test of the military version on the 9th minute. Part 2/3
[我爱发明 HQ] 终极火力 / 揭秘95式突击步枪 2/3
Thanks !!! Very good video! It is sexy! But I like QBZ95 better. Do you have one QBZ95?
Do yall still get any new Polytech weapons.
Sucks these aren't available in the USA, may need to move out of the country.
i JUST bought one would you recommend using.223 shells in it?
Yeah man. It's chambered for .223 so go nuts!
What about accuracy
Can you find a left handed version?
Has this guy served ?
You deserve more subs dude really
Thanks! I just enjoy putting together quality videos. When I was first shopping, there was nothing online to teach me about the rifles I was buying!
i see, so you became what u wanted, a guy to help give an opinion on firearms people might be considering buying. all i can say is good job so far
Thanks! Stay tuned for Shot Show eh? It's going to be a busy month!
just like a FAMAS
Except not prohibited in Canada ;) But they are similar looking eh?
yeah!!, but the Norinco is better and elegant :)
Sooo hideous! haha great review.
The only reason this isn't selling like crazy in the US is because of shitty geopolitics. Its funny to be honest.
Where can I buy?? That's all i wanna know lol
Mcloven in china
can't import guns from oversea due to gun ban in the USA..
SUPER SAMURAI hh,I am sorry but in China the goverment dont allow sale any gun to us .
we always use QBZ95，is more better than qbz97
RCMP eh? didn't know you can actually purchase a firearm in Canada
will a air15 scope rail fit that handle?
Definitely not. Its all proprietary PLA specs
just wondering if i can keep my guns locked up at a friends house ? in a gun safe of course does that mean my friend has to do the pal course too or no?
You will want to read and understand the Canadian criminal code first! Advice from a person on youtube (even myself) is never the best advice.
Storing firearms in a place that is accessible to someone without a PAL is not allowed. If your friend has access to the safe you could be charged with unsafe storage.
ok thank you
Question for anyone that might know:
If "QB Zed-95" (as opposed to "QB ZEE-95") is the proper military pronunciation for the QBZ-95, then what is the proper military pronunciation for the weapon's LMG variant: the QBB-95? I'm assuming its not "QB BEE-95"... Maybe the "QB Bravo", "QB Boy", or "QB Baker"...?
I'm a curious and confused gamer from Battlefield 4 who really likes both of these weapons, but for the longest time has called them both the "QB ZEE" and "QB BEE", which sounds stupid and confusing, especially with the QBB.
+silentf0e I'm not too sure if I get your question, but QBZ and QBB are simply the official/classification names of these weapons. QBZ stands for Qiang (rifle) Bu (Infantry) Zidong (automatic) in Chinese and Qiang (rifle) Bu (infantry) Banyong (squad). As to zed and zee, its just the different pronunciation of the character Z in English and American English. As much as I know, the military pronunciation is in Chinese simply as 95 shi zi dong bu qiang (type 95 automatic rifle) or 95 shi ban yong ji qiang (type 95 squad machine gun)
dose it fall apart when you shoot it peace by peace?
+Sawa Hitoshi no, but war by war, yes.
Cool
Does anyone know if it's possible to buy one of these in Canada and bring it back to the United States? I'd kill to have one of these....
Jessie Edsell Not possible, since 1994 most norinco firearms are banned from importation to U.S
9408994041 In that case. I should try to find a Canadian that's willing to chuck one of these over the border lol.
-lhe uma
is it worth the 1000 in your opinion?
At $800 I would have said it was a screaming deal. But for $1000 I personally think you get a better rifle from a Vz58.
I heard you Canadians only get 5 rounders for mags.... that sucks...
Kind of: tv-presspass.com/the-importance-of-50-beowulf-magazines/
TV-PressPass Ah... the beowulf trick....
10 round
is the mag riveted to 10 rounds?
A mag intended for a semi-auto rifle is limited to 5 rounds, so the Canadian mag is riveted at 5 rnds. If you can find AR mags that are labelled as being manufactured for an AR pistol, like the Rock River LAR-15 mags, then it's 10 rnds.
The mag that comes with this rifle is obviously intended for this RIFLE, so it'll be limited to 5 rnds.
Villnius Well said sir! Interestingly, the magwell on the T97 is so tight that it struggles with certain brands of pistol and beowulf magazines. It is much more selective than the Tavor when it comes to Mag options.
I thought all centre fire semi autos were restricted?
Not at all. You should learn our own laws better! There are lots of dedicated semi-auto hunting rifles, and a few sporting rifles like this one that are non-restricted. The key issue is barrel length and variants. If its a variant of a controlled rifle you're hooped, and if its a short barreled semi you're restricted, but anything else is good to go!
TV-PressPass That's why I was asking, you should learn to not answer questions like a huge douche better! You are right, I was reading the regs on the RCMP website wrong, I didn't notice the "and" in between the conditions, and I only started the CFSC last night.
You're right, Canadian gun laws are complex and don't make a lot of sense. If you're not already involved in the community there's a lot to learn. Your PAL exam is a good place to start though! Just wait till you get into the mess of mag capacities ;)
TV-PressPass I accept your apology.
Chinise metric thread he sad?
wait , u cant use that in VIKENDI wtf !
will 7 62 fiit in beo wolf mag?
Nope. 7.62x39 is a curved case. Requires a very different magazine from .223 or .50 beo
i might get 1
How much for that gun?
$1000
Semi Auto
And no good trigger guard like it’s twin
The gun seems pretty shitty but I do like the bizarre ar15 hybrid bullpup look. Not bad at all for 1k. I'm jealous Canadians can buy that..
chinese soldiers literally sleep with this gun, they can reload, and switch safety ridiculously fast. the gun is designed weird so that if a foreign soldier picks it up they'll have a rough time working with it
qbz95用5.8mm破壞力應比qbz97強
瞎扯淡，5.8你打5.56试试。先不说连膛都上不去，就算你硬塞进去打，不怕炸膛你就试试。
@赵光耀 你确定？
Plastic gun?
Why make in china costs $1000???
because its non restricted and uses stanag mags
"Fully semi-automatic" lol
How can he get this gun?? I hear somebody say china just make this gun for their army
they barely use it, the troops complain about the sights being to high combined with multiple problems result in PLA troops hating the "ugly" gun.
Only the PLA Naval Infantry uses it.
+Hanny conner This is based on the Chinese miltiary spec version called the QBZ-95-1 which is quite different, the Chinese milispec 95-1 has a superior safety, trigger, barrel and mag release mechanisms and I believe chambers their newer heavier round.
However, the QBZ-03 seems to be the hot shit in the Chinese army now.
+Ivan Chen 我不知道你为什么这样说，但95步枪是PLA的制式装备并不只有海军士兵在使用而是全军都在使用只有边防部队装备了少量的03式，而且95式在军队中一直都广受好评
郭诚 Oh, okay.
Haven't been in China in awhile.
+郭诚 边防部队大部分在用81扛
Why compare a QBZ to a fucking MTAR? Two separate weapons from two different nations. Nothing to compare.
Bullpup .223 rifles that are both non-restricted in Canada and compatible with Stanag magazines? Sound pretty similar to me! The fact that I get daily questions of T97 vs Tavor says that other people are curious too!
I see Israeli and Chinese weapons as separate weapons altogether, though they may be the same caliber and design. When comparing, it's the AK-M16 ideology I have. You may not think that way, but that's how I do.
I wish they sold these in the states. I'm jealous of you Canadians. Lol
this looks very awkward to reload
once you learn how it isn't... but there is a learning process!
1:00 its the way Chinese happen to have developed this shiii..this rifle to shoot. lol