The Real Reason Riders Are Leaving MXGP...

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  • @briancastora769
    @briancastora769 หลายเดือนก่อน +166

    Now we know why the gates are never full in MXGP

    • @tankeater
      @tankeater หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      💯% the first thing that came to my mind!

    • @aldionlocaberte8838
      @aldionlocaberte8838 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would be nice to see Coenen came to US.

    • @briancastora769
      @briancastora769 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@aldionlocaberte8838 Bring them all over! Would be the best racing ever!!!

    • @zkj470
      @zkj470 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@briancastora769facts I’m with you on that bro that be the best we ever seen

    • @linus5699
      @linus5699 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thats not why. Its the cost for the team that is the cause of gates are never full.

  • @ReformedSteven
    @ReformedSteven หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Got to meet Jorge at SF supercross last season. Super cool guy, shook my daughter’s hand, gave her some stickers and took a photo with us. His mom and dad were there and we got to say hi to them and have a brief conversation. Really nice people. 🙌

  • @DC-ng2db
    @DC-ng2db หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Pretty sad when the Monster card girl makes more money than the dude winning the GP. Not to mention they're not forced to pay $1,500 for the privilege of participating in the show. I'm not a race promoter, but I'm pretty sure that every person that attends these events is there to watch the riders. Not knocking the Monster girls, as they're just there getting paid to do a job, like everyone else working the event. Well, almost everyone...

    • @markcortis2348
      @markcortis2348 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They get paid salaries to race,, Infront provides a platform for them to race,,,simple,, although they should get prize money,,, what you have to remember us, pay as much prize money as you want,,, the same guys will win it every time,, they make plenty of £s.,

    • @rockstarbmf9595
      @rockstarbmf9595 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markcortis2348 Not true! People buckle under financial pressure, and some persevere in that pressure setting. At the end of the day, NOBODY at that level should be racing for free! Not another damn sport on this planet does this to their athletes! I'm glad this shit is getting exposed! These promoters are making MILLIONS, if not hundreds of millions with the TV, and social media streaming they advertise. Meanwhile, you get jackshit if you win? I don't think so!

    • @louiedangelo3843
      @louiedangelo3843 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markcortis2348 The problem is the platform is terrible , the tracks the locations the lack of riders showing up is a clear indication they are not doing whats best for the sport. Every year the attendance is going down because the quality of the event is getting worse.

  • @Erik-rp1hi
    @Erik-rp1hi หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    All the good MXGP riders need to come to USA.

    • @ProMxFinland
      @ProMxFinland หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So 2/3 at gate is from outside USA lloll

  • @Kyle-k4w
    @Kyle-k4w หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Mxgp doesn't talk about pay and won't be happy with Prado but he is right about telling the truth.

  • @bobbyjohnson1297
    @bobbyjohnson1297 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    been this way for years. Kind of suprised so many people had no clue.

    • @rodbergstrom1365
      @rodbergstrom1365 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's because on the front that is put up. Many teams even struggle that's way some don't do the far away events

  • @joigus
    @joigus หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    "Outrageous" does not even begin to desbribe it. Politicians, bureaucrats and business sharks sucking every last euro from families and kids and small businesses with a lot of dreams who put everything they have on the line for a sport they love.

    • @louiedangelo3843
      @louiedangelo3843 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sad to see how motocross is being destroyed by the greedy son and father loungos and infront, somebody needs to stop them from destroying the sport so many love because of their own personal greed. Sad state in MXGP right now.

  • @mickaelpichon1559
    @mickaelpichon1559 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    We fight for that 25 years ago with Stefan Everts and Joel Smets when they took of de price money . 2004 or 05 in Souht Africa GP

  • @Jacob-64
    @Jacob-64 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Well said Jorge ,that needed saying . MXGP is years behind the program . Paul Malin needs to come to america also ,best commentator by a country mile

    • @GaryPiazza
      @GaryPiazza หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jason W is pretty darn good...

    • @Ahhtheserenity
      @Ahhtheserenity หลายเดือนก่อน

      Paul is incredible. Him and weekend would be quite the duo! Love how direct Paul is

  • @MarciButuza
    @MarciButuza หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks to Gypsy tales we really get to see what s going on in the moto world...this will probably make mxgp reconsider how they organize their races.

  • @johnallard9876
    @johnallard9876 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    When I heard the riders don’t get any prize money few years ago I thought it was a joke lol for what these guys put themselves threw and go threw far as injuries and riding with broken bones and torn ligaments!!! PAY THE DAM RIDERS! You make more than enough and these guys are making you money! Moto and supercross are already under paid as it is compared to other sports it’s time riders start getting what they should. For gods sake it’s the hardest sport on earth no if ans or buts about it! HARDEST SPORT ON EARTH!

    • @MultiFabregas4
      @MultiFabregas4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well MMA is the hardest in my opinion. MOTOCROSS is second.😊

    • @joness33
      @joness33 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MultiFabregas4explain lol, yeah they punch and kick, but they’re fights last maybe 2-3 rounds most of the time, and they get a short break in between, these guys go for 35+ straight as hard as they can, and sometimes they wreck. They wreck fucking hard.

    • @joness33
      @joness33 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MultiFabregas4on top of that, it can be like 90°+ and they still go as hard as they can, idk man, can never convince me mma or boxing is harder

    • @joness33
      @joness33 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MultiFabregas4and one more thing, how often do mma fighters fight? Every 2-3 months? It’s every week for these guys, they do get like 3, 2 week breaks and like 3 months off but come on.

  • @DHRC23
    @DHRC23 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Infront, and the Longo family have been ripping the riders off for years and pocketing the cash. it's about time the teams and manufactures band together to and demand a better structure, and pay the riders, who are the show what they are worth.

  • @androo357
    @androo357 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Remember when supercross pulled from FIM? Starts to make more sense now.

  • @jasonowens-sg5uh
    @jasonowens-sg5uh หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love his honesty, im glad he is over here!

  • @brianmerrill1227
    @brianmerrill1227 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That is crazy to see spots open on the GP gate.

  • @francesco_311
    @francesco_311 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wise and smart words from Prado, thank you for your honesty.

  • @hellonwheelz22
    @hellonwheelz22 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really think it's getting close to that time where there should be a riders union formed.

  • @stevewilliams1290
    @stevewilliams1290 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loving this conversation, also I just told the wife I want Fox T's and sweaters for Christmas. LFG Jorge!!

  • @MangoJerry97
    @MangoJerry97 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How can we watch the full video podcasts? I can’t see any video on Spotify and TH-cam only has the snippets

  • @khure711
    @khure711 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My girlfriend does that equestrian horse riding competition. And watching this video is like replaying the exact same conversation we had. The difference being she is a woman and is completely delusional about how she was being ripped off. 4:00 was my exact reaction to her entrance fee which was like $1000. And their prize was a ribbon and they are all privateers 😂. Don’t fall in love with a girl that loves horses boys, they will love the horse more than you.

  • @francesco_311
    @francesco_311 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Giuseppe Luongo is ruining European Motocross big time!

  • @kendallpalladino9982
    @kendallpalladino9982 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk if it was Nationals this past year or an mxgp race but do yall remember the Suzuki rider hitting the t post holding the banner? Safety needs to be re looked at!

  • @AC-xw5tj
    @AC-xw5tj หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MXGP need to up their game. That is absolutely shocking.

  • @OneSon744
    @OneSon744 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In my electrician's apprenticeship we called it "get burned while you learn."

  • @snarfdwarf
    @snarfdwarf หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How can it be that riders have to pay to race, while they are the main attraction of the sport. This is crazy. Riders should unite and start their own World Series where the riders all get payed who qualify and actually race.

  • @ianbarber6463
    @ianbarber6463 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No idea why more top europeans are not moving to USA. Paid what they deserve in USA. MXGP is a cash cow for promoters only. Very sad that the heart of motocross in Europe is dying a death by 1000 cuts......

  • @zdiver1
    @zdiver1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That sounds like when I qualified for the Boston Marathon had to pay my way from Phoenix but the top runners from Kenya were taken care of with airfare rooms and food and cash.

    • @rg807
      @rg807 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Marathons pay decent prize money for the top runners. I think both the men's and women's winners get $150K each.
      GP's without prize money is absurd. Where is the FIM?

    • @rafik835
      @rafik835 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rg807and all you need to have is snickers for 200$ in your hand luggage😂 instead of bikes in cargo

  • @Btonasir
    @Btonasir หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Crazy u can tell all this is true and real man’s was frustrated talking about couldn’t wait to get up outta there to US😂

  • @1PADRAIG
    @1PADRAIG หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What the Point of calling it A GP anyway. Grand Prix is a name rooted in competitions, alluding to the winner receiving a prize (i.e. money), trophy or honor.

  • @vonhonderwitz
    @vonhonderwitz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man this is really disappointing to hear, I love watching the GP’s. Hopefully they start taking care of these guys. Some of the horror shows I’ve seen of hurt riders ending up in third world hospitals looks pretty scary.

  • @alexjungaberle
    @alexjungaberle หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dear MXGP: Where does all the money go to exactly?

    • @louiedangelo3843
      @louiedangelo3843 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Maybe fans should visit the loungos mansions.

    • @alexjungaberle
      @alexjungaberle หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ lez gooo 😎

    • @swedish_sadhguru3854
      @swedish_sadhguru3854 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is Europe - taxes

    • @mineralwater6736
      @mineralwater6736 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@swedish_sadhguru38540 Europe knowledge.

  • @greenmachine6675
    @greenmachine6675 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Time fr change..screw those maffiosos . disgusting 🤮

  • @motoprofessor3546
    @motoprofessor3546 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Tomac and Prado are battling, I'm not sure who I would root for. This kid seems solid.

  • @michaelgrubbs1618
    @michaelgrubbs1618 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yah. The other thing is,,,,, pay to race,,,,, and bring the customer to the show. You pay. Or should they pay. Dudes race to catch themselves on fire. Thats it.

  • @xavibonet9879
    @xavibonet9879 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    En el campeonato de españa tampoco hay recompensas solo pagar y pagar . Si quieres correr paga 15.000e para ingresar en un equipo y en mx gp es lo mismo solo cobran 5 los demas a pagar todos y evidentemente mas dinero

  • @papikevz8803
    @papikevz8803 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro there's no way it's broadcast on tv winning championship and didn't even get a money?

  • @zee.___moose941
    @zee.___moose941 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your sick of hearing the bikes 😂😂 it's so true . Bikes are so loud and the loudspeaker alllll dayyyy looooonnnngggg. I go w my brother and we can't even have a conversation all day.

  • @GGumbs264
    @GGumbs264 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Take notes GB 🇬🇧🇬🇧 ACU British championship take note

  • @22Chad_Reed22
    @22Chad_Reed22 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if you wondered why so many super fast guys just ride the french british german or other local series and don't compete in mxgp outside of a wildcard for their home gp

  • @mimihaz14
    @mimihaz14 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Same like fútbol or soccer , etc … in Europe everything is the same. Sorry to say but this is the reality!! Vamos Jorge !!!

    • @fcjose31
      @fcjose31 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      El Futbol? puede haber Mafiosos en la federacion pero los equipos y jugadores ganan bien por ganar titulos, incluso el Real Madrid le pagan millones de Euros por algunos partidos de pretemporada en EEUU, en Futbol y MotoGP si ganan, aunque los premios creo que los pone el Circuito.

  • @littemisscarrage2909
    @littemisscarrage2909 หลายเดือนก่อน

    some years ago it was 10,000 euros per rider for the series its surely way more now,

  • @trustenbaker8766
    @trustenbaker8766 หลายเดือนก่อน

    L o L ....I like that........... " we are not saying things that are not true "!

  • @mentalmaxi5555
    @mentalmaxi5555 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    there is one person who's the problem with the gp, the man at the head of it, who isn't even a motocross fan

  • @ThndrBuddy
    @ThndrBuddy หลายเดือนก่อน

    You don’t know what the overhead of the tracks are so you really can’t speculate on how much they are netting…

  • @barcuda1250
    @barcuda1250 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thats the biggest scum business ever everyone needs to not support mxgp

    • @gildo101rossi
      @gildo101rossi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well to be honest MotoGP doesn’t pay out prize money & that’s the biggest 2 wheeled sport in the world

  • @STEFANGARLICKI
    @STEFANGARLICKI หลายเดือนก่อน

    ABSOLUTELY WILD!😵‍💫

  • @Carl-s3h
    @Carl-s3h หลายเดือนก่อน

    And now they have to race 3 times over the weekend I don’t know how the riders and teams put up with the infront moto racing

  • @SCOOTERstreams
    @SCOOTERstreams 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's completely wild to realize all of that just now. I imagine it could slowly kill European motocross or hinder any growth. Theres only so many 'factory' rides that pay a salary in MXGP. Imagine if you were coming up in europe and the only option is to hopefully get a limited seat on a factory team or go to America to turn pro. Bike, maintenance, travel, food, hotels/RVs, and training are expense enough. Someone is pocketing a lot of money, and Im going to guess it is FIM.

  • @allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896
    @allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The gates in MXGP are never full so clearly they are doing something wrong. Not paying riders is probably part of that. Maybe old Davey Combs isn't to bad lol

    • @Billyipod
      @Billyipod หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Man is so sad, in spain regional championships have at least a minimal reward, so technically the spanish champion makes more money than the mxgp champion, the only thing i can think about, is where can i watch in europe the next ama or sx seasson? 🤣

    • @louiedangelo3843
      @louiedangelo3843 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Davey coombs cares about motocross the loungos are about making the money and would give a shit about motocross.

  • @wenke29
    @wenke29 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thankfully we can hear some true facts. they are killing the sport ...

  • @Nioh2.2
    @Nioh2.2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the teams do get paid per point right?

    • @GYPSYTALES
      @GYPSYTALES  หลายเดือนก่อน

      No the teams don't get paid either

  • @swedish_sadhguru3854
    @swedish_sadhguru3854 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly, the whole economy just sucks in Europe, I live in Sweden so I know this all too well. Unfortunately, it is extremely difficult to emigrate to the U.S. Everyone, even those with good jobs, are living paycheck to paycheck in Sweden. Only exception are basically business owners who try and avoid taxes.

    • @fcjose31
      @fcjose31 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Si, somos el quinto Mundo, la economia malisima, pero disfrutamos la vida, en EEUU es todo Money Money Money y falta disfrutar mas la vida, th-cam.com/video/xRGq2RaqsUY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=iUDQh9NTthZCfpa2&t=1

  • @louiedangelo3843
    @louiedangelo3843 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When the upper crooks only care about their bank accounts. MXGP needs change if not it will be done in a few years, somebody needs to stand up to the loungos and infronts crooks. The tracks are trash too short and tight for racing looks like a damn local amauter tracks. Half empty gates is a bad look. The Fans , riders and teams need to not let these crooks destroy the sport that we love.

  • @fiddysent2798
    @fiddysent2798 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Because the people running the show are rinsing all the bob deniro out of MXGP.
    Thats why the greatest MXGP riders go to the states and there are 20 riders on the start in the World Championship. If there aren't 40 riders on the line at the Australian GP then that will show you how much the organisers are ripping the money out of the sport in entry fees.
    Ruined Motocross

  • @eddiecruz5591
    @eddiecruz5591 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Welcome to America ! Now make some money.

  • @Mall_Watch
    @Mall_Watch 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's always been the case that the fastest way to make a small fortune in racing is to start with a big one.
    The governing buddies, organizers, manufacturers, etc, don't care. If they did, we would all still be on 2strokes.

  • @kevintalbot8341
    @kevintalbot8341 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Been saying this for years...MXGP is a joke, 5 or 6 decent tracks, couple hundred fans at many races and half full start gates, WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP? 😂😂😂😂WHAT3VER !!!!!!!!!

  • @travelingmike40
    @travelingmike40 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A privateer has it better in the USA?

  • @kYnTso
    @kYnTso หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    God damn, that sucks major balls. 0 euros. Might aswell say that they guys in the USA have it good then.

  • @tjroe5190
    @tjroe5190 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Mxgp needs reworked or they will continue to loose top level talent to America's

  • @nathanbray334
    @nathanbray334 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    mxgp looks shit as well with less then 20 riders in a main now it all make sense

  • @nickhowser7262
    @nickhowser7262 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So it’s actually better to race in America

  • @michaelgrubbs1618
    @michaelgrubbs1618 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It used to be 60% usa, 30% euro, 10% other. It is all. and should be based on. all performance. My man Prado go for it

  • @tomassalamen7343
    @tomassalamen7343 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not 300,000 its 30,000 per year. learn how to use your calc :)

    • @mikeleblanc4072
      @mikeleblanc4072 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I couldn’t believe there were so few people who noticed this

    • @alicanakkas3845
      @alicanakkas3845 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I believe he tried to calculate what the organization make from all the season ,all riders included, 6m seemed around there

  • @totzinfo
    @totzinfo หลายเดือนก่อน

    it's happen only to KTM but not in Honda

  • @kroutmoto
    @kroutmoto หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pala is still at level zero.

  • @sviinfinity1559
    @sviinfinity1559 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mxgp is dead
    So sad...

  • @mamattosei
    @mamattosei หลายเดือนก่อน

    GP mean "Grand Prix " ... Big prize.....

  • @totzinfo
    @totzinfo หลายเดือนก่อน

    he should ride FACTORY bike in MXGP

  • @NP76MX
    @NP76MX หลายเดือนก่อน

    Entry Fee is 300€… not 1500

    • @plekker
      @plekker 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No.
      Mxgp rider 1500. other classes is cheaper

  • @legenderekonwheels
    @legenderekonwheels หลายเดือนก่อน

    ZERO PAYOUT?!!!! WTF?!!!! 🤯

  • @genarofernandez4312
    @genarofernandez4312 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jorge mato el relato de MXGP

    • @louiedangelo3843
      @louiedangelo3843 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gran mierda el vas para USA a ganar millones.

  • @abuskiZSRR
    @abuskiZSRR หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    AMA and MXGP need to be under the same name and be the same championship, half rounds in the US half in rest of the world

  • @sylc6688
    @sylc6688 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like his honesty. I hope he gets a great first season in the US.

  • @bazzillbrush8607
    @bazzillbrush8607 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its an Insult to the Riders 🤬, How can it be Classed as a world Championship if the Riders get No Prize Money? Surley its just a Glorified Amature Event? Riders should just Boycott, the promotors will be F*cked without the Riders!

  • @marvelmerilainen7909
    @marvelmerilainen7909 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mafia

  • @Herbistuous
    @Herbistuous หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here we go,you’ve reached a point where USA is where you want to be.
    The MXGP is as bad as the US in treating the riders poorly.You know this Gypsy but you won’t bite the hand that feeds you now will you.

  • @saimonapfel
    @saimonapfel หลายเดือนก่อน

    The central europe riders who are in the range of P15-P40 race the ADAC MX Masters. Free Livestream, many Vievers online, many spectators at the track, pricemoney, lower entry fee, and nearly same competition. Riders like Henry Jacobi steped away from MXGP because of what Prado says. It is a minus business.
    Only the riders who race in private teams race some GP´s. The MXGP circus just has about 14 riders that are always on the line. Rest is wildcards. Ridicilous for a WC.
    MXGP is runned by italians, and the italian riders and teams are maximum privliged. Look how many italian races, riders, and teams there are.
    Personaly i hope that in some day the top riders like gajser and herlings cut to race in MXGP and join the MX Masters, until tho organisation of MXGP start to pay price money at least for the top20 rider of any race in a amount, that overall P20 get´s his entry fee back and get´s to 0€ of investment.

  • @premix3663
    @premix3663 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    we use to have to sit and watch the women nationals im glad they cancled that

  • @RandyDockx
    @RandyDockx หลายเดือนก่อน

    Earning 5 million a season and still complaining.
    Motorcross is dead in europe. Be glad you still make good money doing what you like.
    Stefan everts was at the top for 20 years. Was a world champion 10x and grossed 1,5million in his carreer. Thats sad! Because of his contributions after his pro career you all make millions a season!
    And still you leave the league to earn a bit more overseas.
    Ooh and jeffrey im a huge fan. But
    Owning 60 houses (fully paid)and complaining about youre paygrade? We all struggle to buy 1 and have a mortgage for 30years!

    • @louiedangelo3843
      @louiedangelo3843 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      what does what he makes have to do how shit the motocross is in europe? Half empty gates, shit tracks and racing in the middle of fucking no where in a third world country. You really comparing 20 years ago salary to today? you a moron. How much of the 5 mill came from infront or loungos pocket??

    • @alicanakkas3845
      @alicanakkas3845 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gotta give it to him, too. At his level(or even considered lower than him) in usa, they makin multiples of his check. Why not make more money if you can.

    • @fcjose31
      @fcjose31 หลายเดือนก่อน

      El "deportista" que mas gano en la Historia era el Auriga Romano Cayo Apuleyo Diocles, el Hispano mas ganador del imperio Romano.
      En términos modernos, las ganancias de Diocles equivaldrían a unos 15.000 millones de dólares, lo que lo convierte en el deportista más rico de todos los tiempos, incluso ajustando por la inflación.

  • @RaceIndigo
    @RaceIndigo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sooo...unfuck the privateers now?

    • @GYPSYTALES
      @GYPSYTALES  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Go back to my original video, and every video after that; which clearly states that Motocross needs privateers. I don't know how many times I have to say that for people to get it. There can be 20 factory riders on every gate of Supercross and there's no way you can fill 80 gates outdoors without privateers. So yes... It's still fuck the privateers in Supercross. Last time I looked, MXGP was motocross.

  • @robe2184
    @robe2184 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1980s .paid start money and prize money