Why MXGP riders never use the clutch 🤯🤔
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.พ. 2025
- Fresh off his maiden world championship in MXGP, Kay De Wolf took a trip to California to try his hand at some Supercross. Kay lit the moto world on fire towards the end of this year with a dominant performance at Motocross of Nations and then throwing down at California Motcross tracks before locking in at the KTM / Husqvarna test tracks. During this time we managed to sneak in a couple of rounds of golf and sit down with the likeable Dutchman! This podcast was unreal and we touched on his unique upbringing in the sport, his MXGP career, his wish to race Supercross and much more.
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Having grown up on 2 strokes we would use the clutch to stay in the power band but we were coached to shift more and make sure you’re in the right gear (shifting in the air etc), and carry your momentum; which translated really well when I got on my first thumper ( ‘00 YZ426F). Now I’m on a 300 2T and same thing using momentum and shifting with only use of the clutch for logs/rock steps, or short run hill climbs, and to keep from stalling.
He has a point. In the Coty Schock interview he said the first thing he noticed about Roczen is "You never hear the guys motorcycle" "I'm not saying I'm riding with him, I'm only near him for one section of the track or a few turns but he does everything in one motion, most guys kind of brake, make a mistake, fix it, turn, make a mistake fix it, where with Roczen everything is one motion and he rides a gear higher than everyone else" His description of Tomac is the exact opposite. Schock said Tomac is wide open all the time and he uses the clutch to regulate the power.
6 in one half dozen in the other I guess?
They both go faster than 99.7% of people in the world. They just go about it in different ways.
Hilarious to see fellow Americans bagging on him heavily. It’s an interesting take to a different style of riding. Kay is the man and fast as fuck. Internet warriors giving him shit as mx2 champ over a preferable style is wild. That’s a bad dude on a dirtbike…..
It’s sports lol everyone’s allowed to have an opinion
@@jamesoso259just because they’re allowed, doesn’t mean they should. It’s just promoting peoples dumbness.
Its the bandwagon era i guess. Either your a full fan or youd rather see the guy die. Pretty sick of fans not being able to actually analyze anything@jamesoso259
@@bedbugsruinedmotothat’s your opinion😂🤦♂️
@@bedbugsruinedmoto well that’s one dumbass opinion I wish none of us had to hear
After two blown up motors when I was younger and having to pay for all my shit, I learned quickly not to bounce off the limiter.
💯. I remember racing in 80s and 90s, my dad taught my brother and I just to carry speed and use shifting. We both took home our class championships on 60s and 80s because our main competition (another pair of brothers) would DNF 1/3 of the time and they were always on the pipe and finger banging that clutch.
De Wolf is no joke on the bike.
This style is gonna translate nice to the 450s.
No it won’t
@@125fgoonyou are clueless. If you are using your clutch you arent a good rider
This is so funny. Raced for 15 years, apart from starts rarely used my clutch. Always blows me away the amount of over reving today.
So glad someone finally brought this up. I’m same way. Only time you’ll hear my bike is when I’m on a straight or way out of a berm. Throwing a whip. You won’t hear my bike, scrubbing, soaking up the jump.. none. I don’t do that stupid rev limiter shi* in the air
Back in the day (late 70's), it was said that if you aren't entering a corner freaking out you won't make the corner, then you aren't going fast enough into the turn and breaking hard enough. Not breaking hard a lot or using the clutch seems counter intuitive to me, but I've been practicing rolling faster thru the turns. Squaring off turns with the rear brake locked to pivot and clutch engaged is an exception.
that is not a philosophy i would apply on a bike from the 70's haha those things scare me
@bulug5421 I read that in Motocross action magazine in a technique article. I get what you're saying.
I ride a dual sport and mainly use the clutch to stop and go. For the most part while in motion I don't use it. As long as you don't hesitate or try to change gears out of sync with your speed it's all good. Most of all don't hesitate when shifting!
CONGRATULATIONS Kay DeWolf, you've added something to you name that do few among us will EVER EVER HAVE.... World Champion.
💪🏻😎🙋🏾🤩
I can hear R.H.I.N.O in the back ground “I’ve been teaching this for Decades”
Also REVVING in the states is a mind game “move over I’m coming, scare them into choosing their throttle etc”……..!
RHINO😂😂😂
That's not just an USA thing😂
He is correct!! Old school riders didn’t hold the throttle open all the way throughout the jump. They had perfect timing and they rode two strokes, with actually needed that blip to clear them out.
Europe owns motorcycling in nearly every discipline. We can try to convince ourselves otherwise, but it's the truth.
Literally only hard enduro
European riders or you mean just Europe. Cause Japan makes almost all the bikes….
@@okaydudes You sure about this? KTM, Husky, gas gas,beta and TM in europe and yamaha, kawasaki, honda,suzuki in japan. Add ducati into the list and europe has 2 more manufactures
@@-HoaxTriumph ducati husky ktm gasgas husaberg TM beta
@@Griffin283motogp
I always figured the pro (and many amateur & semi-pro) riders are nearly destroying the bikes for the sake of winning and purses. Bike longevity is not a concern, it only needs to survive the event.
exact same mindset that the majority of motorsports drivers are with their vehicles, especially in the pro-class series of motorsports. As long as it survives race day, it's done it's job LOL.
And then there’s Geico Honda days Barcia
Barcia did it because he said the bike would bog all the time if he didn't. So, just hold it wide open. Is that true? I dunno. It's unnecessary now with fuel injection and computer control. I guess his mechanic couldn't tune the carb correctly.
@ yeh I do remember seeing him say that. But he was notorious his whole junior career for just pinning it.
When he was on 250s he was the guy
His right, Europe really produces insanely good rides.
When i grew up racing in the 90s and esrly 00s i was taught not to use the clutch unless i had to it was all about momentum
That’s because you need to keep your speed with two strokes so being on the breaks and clutch slow you down because lower bottom end torque you have to keep the rpm’s high
@brandonespinoza111 yer true mate but that's how I rode four strokes .
@@BenPigginit’s how fourstrokes are meant to be ridden. Use the torque. And the suspension works much better.
Im always a gear high.
Never rev.
Rarely use the clutch.
Almost 200 hrs on my 350.
Original top end.
Never checked the valves.
Only change the oil every 30-40 hrs.
And I ride in the expert practices and hold my own.
Even when I rode a 125 I never subscribed to this "wing the clutch in all the corners to get out fast" nonsense. Shoot into the corner in the right gear, rpms just below peak torque, and roll back into fat part of the power curve. It never failed, and always passed Guys fanning their clutches in the corners. On a 250 2-Stroke you could be lazy on your timing and still never need the clutch.
Clutch is for shifting. If you can't keep the bike in the powerband you need to go back to basics and learn how to ride: momentum: explained in the above video. Also agree in the video: listening to a Rider bust out laps and you can hardly hear the engine work is pure Art. Usually the Guy making the most noise on the track is the Slowest.
European riders are simply more technical riders...it's the same way in the offroad world. I remember when Juha Salminen and David Knight came in and took the GNCC series by storm and absolutely whooped the Americans. But to watch them ride, they 'looked' and sounded like they were going half as fast.
bla bla bla Deegans gonna steal his lunch money Merica m f k r
europeans were dominating the rally scene for 30 years, too. the only time non-europeans were dominating a rally discipline was rallycross.
@@devxro How many rally races ive see in my life 0... how many rally races in the USA.. HArdly. No one in the US really follows or cares so of course we aint gonna do well lol American drivers like Pastrana seem to be doing OK.
Too bad Euros cant ride Supercross.
Some reving is part of the jumping style, reving raises the front end so if you jump with the revs up then the nose is probably a tad low and the revs bring it to position. I was at Los Banos "SX" track c. 1997 and Ryan Morais broke his clutch lever but raced... You need to touch the clutch in turns. But he couldn't. He tried to compensate but it didn't work and he crashed hard because he couldn't use the clutch the smidgen he needed just wasn't there.
I have never understood the excessive revving these days :). He has a point!
Then you had james stewart back in the day who never used his clutch on a 125 👌
Bubba was never out of the powerband, it takes a special skill to ride a 125 that well
Le puedes preguntar que mejoras van bien para curvar con la Husqvarna fc 24? 😂😂😂
I really don't get the hole hitting the rev limiter every time you're in the air! But what ever works for you works for you!!
Yeah ... tell that to Deegan Can't wait till De Wolf gets what he wants.
Sounds scary and it's aggression that's whole point lol tom vs haiden hmm seems that's it doesn't matter technic matters most
I did 70 hours with my clutch on a cr125. 😅
I just didn't slip the clutch, it was in or out. Here in the sand of the Netherlands ofcourse you need the clutch to get the revs up, just no need to slip it, at least I didn't.
These were man count, so it could be 65 as well.
Would be interesting to hear from the "over revers" themselves, what is the thinking behind this, why do you do it?
Yep i can never understand the rev limiter thing,it's f.....g annoying 😂.
Only time I'll do it is if i need to lift the front🤷♂️
@@roblastname9133 which I feel haiden does a ton and gets shit for, yet he pushes harder than most, he's nose down on the limiter most times he's reving the shit out of the bike
The beauty of the sport is the connection and " one-ness" with the bike....its an extension of your body. There is no right or wrong way to ride a motorcyle in terms of reving it! One riders method like a Jett Lawerance or Ken Roczen is a smooth throttle high gear sweeping outside turns carrying monentum and hardly working to go real fast ...that is their technique and it works for them. Then you have Eli Tomac and Haiden Deegan. Bulldogs who hammer the throttle stretching the cable till it frays....and they are fast as fuk ! Which one is better ? The one that wins . Probably the best is to have both styles / techniques on your racing skillset ....The start and first few laps ....hammer time !! Then back it down , run lower rpms higher gear feet on the pegs outside lines ...save energy save the bike ....save a crash .....if and when your lead is shrinking and see someone catching you ....put in some heaters and turn it up . !! But to argue with what is better ? Two different riding styles and they both work. Pure speed has be hi revs and in hi gears ...but only a handful of extremely fit extremely strong riders can race that way for duration. Smooth is fast . They both can work to win races and both take a hi degree of skill and practice to master and apply. Who ever is winning is doing it right . And there are winners in both techniques. Maybe JS7 didnt use his clutch but he was a ....Rev master throttle jockey and maybe they didnt change too many clutches on his bikes but they sure as hell changed a lot of stretched throttle cables !!
I hardly use my clutch. Just shift at the correct RPM range.
In the 70-80 Ken Howerton would be wide open would slip his clutch in the corners mechanic was replaced it evey run. Dude was fast.
30 less horsepower from a Glorified Chainsaw might be require a different riding style
Great. I learned this on an open bike, for I would excelerate aggressively from a standstill, but then once I got moving, I focused on MPHs and not the exhausting RPMs. Once I figured it out my laptimes dropped from my 250 but looked and sounded very boring and since wining is the point I think every one of us adrenaline craving Americans should learn from KD and RD, TV and I saw KR doing this at times.
Kay ist top
Now it's like every dude on social media is always on the rev limited literally every time he's off the ground. It's so strange that this has become so popular.
summary... sometimes kay de wolf gets blown by frenchies
Everyone sometimes gets blown by frenchies lol
James wouldn’t use the clutch either I hate the over revs also
Frenchies 😂😂
Anyone use the Rekluse clutch?
The engine gyros change with rpm’s.
By that logic you wouldn't want to rev in the air. Big heavy rods moving faster makes the bike rotate less horizontally. But even then it's a minimal effect.
Yes but what color powerband is best?
@ probably the pink one for you…..
@@Baylessfishes I like the green powerband for all around ripping, but the pink one is good too.
@ always the blue…..
Funny. Saw #16 get handed his @ss by those dudes over reving their bikes
Like every outback rider knows; lean on the gear box, not the clutch, engine or brakes.
Brakes, valves, clutch are all pretty fragile… if you can break the gear box out in the middle of nowhere, you are having a good crack at it!! 😁
#quickshifters 🇺🇸💪
JS7 never used clutch
True, on 450 for sure you don’t need it
How often do European riders throw their bikes on the ground after winning a moto?
Fuck yeah
dam dam barcia sindrome
It’s because you don’t have to pay for it 😅
Hey I’m a 14 y/o tassie boy. I love riding and I have dreams to make it to Europe. I have question for Kay. How can a person living at the bottom of the earth with little money make it to mx2?
Ask Jed Beaton, he made it from Tassie.
@@GYPSYTALES thanks brother. Your a legend!
@@GYPSYTALES I will try. My uncle is Mayes with old Slack and Jane
I hate when they shift like that on a 2 stroke. Sounds like ''EEEIIIIEEEEEIIIIEEEEEEEEEE''
Why MX fans are always arguing?
Cause if their bike gear don't need to get old, and in case it is destroied they don't have to pay 😂
Haiden Deegan revs too much
250f have less power and torque than 450f so yeah pro on 250f use clutch a lot
If your using the clutch all the time its because your lacking in skill and natural talent
Wow another story about no clutch!!!! I hope the oems just stop making bikes with clutches. Wow amazing forward thinking
Mechanical sympathy for your ride.
So basically Americans make a lot of noise but to little effect, Europeans don’t need to make a little noise but do it better 😅
@@gildo101rossi weird that Euros don’t do well in the US than isn’t it. If they were better wouldnt they win??? Vialle can barely stay on his bike outdoors most races and he is a multi time world champ.
@ weird there’s been like 3 American MXGP champs in like 60 years, they stamp and beat their chest saying their the best but none of them wanna prove it by winning a world title as well, the euros have the balls to go over to America
@ why would any American want to go race for 1/4 of the money for 10% of the audiences. The GPs don’t pay and no one watches them, and 3rd rate Americans who couldn’t get rides here used to go there and be your top guys.
@@gildo101rossi a burned out retired RV who wanted out of the sport went over won one GP qualified fastest multiple times and that was after the prime of his career when he no longer cared about racing. The GPs will always been second rate sorry the truth hurts.
@ he didn’t qualify fastest multiple times, he won’t one GP in Thailand because the track & the heat were like the USA.
He struggled in the euro tracks.
Gypsy tales needs some "video" to go along with all the damn talking.
Totally different style. But all the top guys ride differently from each other, and they are still the top guys. Reving an engine also "Revs" some guys up also its a scare factor. Imagine someone on your tail hitting the limiter that knows they can beat you, ie Hayden in beast mode i think most guys can tell hes behind them even before looking
I agree the reving is unnecessary but Deegs is a champion after all. If he wants to rev it, 🤷♂️
It’s to pick the front up
i never used my clutch in 1973 on my 1969 cz none of my peers did either SO WHAT THE BIG DEAL NOW YOU GUY ARE LAME
The louder the bike sounds the faster you are going, get on our level
Right lol maybe they’re on the rev limiter in 3rd and 4th gear because they are FLYING. This past outdoor season those kids where going incredibly fast
Especially in the parking lot 🤡
Our? Bet you don’t even own a bike 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Says “our” like you’re top dog, you ride a bike from the sofa
@ facts 😂
😂
Kay gonna smoke everybody in 450s when he gets there😅 (especially deegs 🤢)
These Euros all talk to much. This guy would be struggling just like Vialle only this guy would be even worse because he isn’t good at SX they all act like Hurtlings.
u talk too much 😁😁
@ sorry the truth about your boyfriend hurts your feelings. All these Euros suck when they try to come to the US they think they race moto so it will be easy but they are never ready for the high speeds and huge jumps of the AMA circuit. They ride slow speed small jump tracks all of them going back decades say they didn’t anticipate the speeds of our tracks and they all struggle. The only Euro to show up and not struggle at first was JMB every other one has a rough start to their AMA career.
Hurtlings :D Haha
You mean he will be struggling 😂
@@Joe-pg3kgYou sound real smart but are really talking out of your ASs. This was maybe true in the 80s and 90s but the level of riding in the GPs is far more superior than US riders now. Yes JMB was a freak rider, but there have been plenty of GP riders that have had the balls to come to US and had success, Pichon, Roncada, Viluimin, Reed, Langston, Musquin, Roczen, Vialle and let’s not forget the Best rider in the World Jett and his Brother. Man you are Dumb… hahahahahaha
😂😂😂 Sorry bud😂😂😂AMA supercross is going to eat you for an appetizer 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👋👋👋👋Eli Tomac, you know 52 main event wins? Ya that guy😂😂😂his mechanic changes brake pads every race, sometimes Tomac will simply hold the throttle open and drag the brakes TO KEEP THE REVS UP😂😂😂Now what..?
Sure dumb Yank , 🇳🇱 🐺
Everything is changed on these bikes by default. As he said, they'll have fresh clutches even if the previous ones are good. Same for transmission, discs, pads, hell the whole engine gets replaced.
you are so rattled
Can you please add some more emojis? And while you do it go and hear Kay one more time, you didnt get his point
Jesus christ bro is so insecure
Dew Wolf doesn't have enough experience to know how to use the clutch, obliviously, DB Deegs will eat the pup alive!
Sorry guys but GP is way more exciting to watch than GNCC. There is more riders that have more skill. GP knows how to ride in sand as well.