A Train to Hel - Riding PKP Intercity Train EIC 1541 "Jantar" Warsaw - Sopot - Hel in First Class
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ต.ค. 2020
- Train: EIC 1541 Warsaw - Hel
Brand Name: Jantar
From: Sopot, Poland
To: Hel, Poland (Półwysep Helski)
Travelling via: Warzsawa Centralna, Ilawa, Malbork, Gdańsk Główny, Sopot, Gdynia Główna, Puck, Władysławowo, Chałupy, Kuźnica (Hel), Jastarnia, Jurata
Full Route of train: Warszawa Zachodnia - Hel
Travel Class: First Class
Car No: 13
Berth No: 65 + 66
Occupancy in First Class: around 10%
Train operator: PKP Intercity
Ticket: Bilet Weekendowy Max First Class
Price: EUR 58
Bought on: intercity.pl
Distance: 86km
Scheduled travel time: 2 hours and 30 min
Departure: 10:56 CET
Arrival: 13:26 CET
Travel season: August 2020
Electric Locomotive Warsaw - Gdynia: PKP Intercity EP09-026
Diesel Locomotive Gdynia - Hel: CD Cesky Drahy 754 037-0
Song: Markvard - Dawn
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Actually "Jantar" is a Polish old-fashioned name for amber, which the Polish sea coast is famous for, and this is why the train to the seaside was given that name. Also, Anna Jantar was a stage name of the Polish legendary singer in the 70s. According to a popular myth, her name was chosen by her husband and manager due to her "amber voice", as he called it.
And in Portuguese "Jantar" means Dinner
Jantar to też wieś.
@@marcinklimas2670 A w którymś miejscu jest napisane, że nie?
Jantar probably comes from an ancient proto-balto-slavic word and it has cognates in modern Lithuanian - gintaras (Gintaras is also a male name) and Latvian - dzintars (again Dzintars serves as a male name).
@@marcinklimas2670 niemniej jednak nie o miejscowosc chodzilo, tylko o kamyk
Go to Hel :) BTW, local bus going to Hel, have a number 666, really ;)
You know the year is messed up when you even need a reservation to get to hel(l) :)
Name. The name of the town was re-named from the name of the peninsula and comes from the word heli, hyl, which in the dialects of Pomerania means a raised place, open to the winds.
@@wiktorprymas1841 can you not just laugh at the joke?
Nice video, shows the topic very well. I want to only comment on a couple of small details.
1. The 1st class carriage number 13 is actually a refurbished carriage from 80's. Before refurbishment it looked much different, it lacked the current comforts like AC, chargers and the doors were manual of the folding type.
2. The train in 6:19 is IC 5604 Hewieliusz (info about it was present on the shot of platform info screen), it is arriving empty from depot as Gdynia Główna is its first station and will depart at scheluded time of 11:20 (11 AM) to Wrocław.
3. The depot at 9:23 is formally SKM Trójmiasto depot, Polregio kibels are serviced there only thanks to agreement between SKM and Polregio.
4. The mixes of new AC equiped DMUs and non-AC old carriages are a local speciality not present else in Poland. Old carriages here have a few modifications compared to factory standard. Originally they did not have the communication cable that allows the whole train to be controlled from a single cabin. It was added later. Another change is that originally they used combined steam and electric installation for heating but as modern DMUs provide neither, they were equiped with Webasto independent heating. As the main idea behind their use here is to provide capacity for bikes, originally they didn't have dedicated places but some seats were removed to provide said space for bikes. There are some other minor details changed, like the addition of electronic destination displays, some received LED lighting though most still have original fluorescent.
Many thanks for making this video esp for the sights and noises of this journey which I remember. I used to live in Poland, in Gdynia and the only train to Hel was a 3 wagon trainset from Gdynia to Hel, only second class (green wagons). They used an old diesel loco. Always very busy in the summer and a reduced service in Winter. There is one part of the journey where you could see the sea clearly on both sides , truly amazing, but I guess this is difficult to film. The platforms have changed so much esp in Hel as there was no real platform and you had to step down the steps to get off the train. PKP has certainly changed a lot since I lived there.
Just spent some days in Poland riding PKP IC trains To Wroclaw and Gdansk. While Im not a huge fan of compartment seating, I was very with the PKP IC service. The ride was smooth and quiet, and had a pretty good meal in the restaurant car on both trips. Thanks for the video and the memories of a fun trip.
Fajny odcinek. Przyjemnie się ogląda relacje z Twoich podróży. Brawo
9:27 (Im polish so its much more funny) Kibel-Toilet Turbokibel-turbotoilet (Modernized Toilet) Those are the EN57-10XX and EN57-20XX accordingly, Probably the most popular electric multiple unit and eny kind of train in poland.
It's rather a stronger word like shitter or crapper maybe. Toilet is "toaleta". Too formal.
I have travelled this route about 20 years ago. Thanks for nice video.
By the way, Russian Railways also has a "Yantar" train, which runs on the route Moscow-Kaliningrad.
Another super video to take us on a trip in the lockdown.
The most fun trains for train lovers on this route are regio from Chojnice with sm-42 loco and double-decker Bmnoupx cars (a.k.a. bohun). They stop in Gdynia, but not sure about Gdansk. I think they go there only in summer season. There is one in 14:54
Хорошо у вас, там, в Европе!
Nice little video, interesting part of the world. My father grew up in Danzig.....
Nice trip report the train and the beaches looked great
Great video, as always! I love your trips! I also like PKP IC trains and nice to see ČD class 754 locomotives in Poland .. but at a time when there is a lack of diesel locomotives in the Czech Republic, I don't understand it a bit :-D Greetings from Prague :-)
I think it is a long time deal between PKP and ČD. I see Czech's vagons and diesel locomotives on this route every summer for e few years now and only during the summertime.
@@maciejcz4356 In the summer, the traffic in the Czech Republic on diesel operated lines is smaller, so this is possibly because :-)
@@PeteBrandy This is due to the deal between PKP and ČD which was signed due to lack of the polish diesel locomotives. That had to be changed but multiple failures of Pesa Gama 111Db locomotives forced the continuous use of 7 Czech locomotives (754 - 015, 025, 026, 028, 037, 041 and 046).
The biggest problem of the 111Db (or PKP SU160 series locomotives) is the MTU 16V 4000 R84 engine which has many problems with reliability. But the most concerning about that engine is that in BR285 (Bombardier Traxx MS2 diesel locomotives for polish fuel manufacturer "LOTOS Kolej") the same "base" of the engine has end it is not faulty (In BR285 the 16V 4000 R84L variant is in use).
Right now SU160 locomotives are coming back to normal operations so I think that 754 locomotives may go back to their home in the nearest future :D
Unfortunately, I think that České Dráhy have more important problems with 380 series locomotives produced by Skoda right now :/
Hi @PeteBrandy
also Trenord (the train society that runs local trains in most of Northern Italy) uses two/three CD class 754 to supply the lack of diesel locomotives (the majority of them have more than 40 years, being built last in the 80's)
Hi doc7austin , thanks for your time to create that awesome video :D
I would like to add that in Poland the ČKD 754 series locomotives (which are the freight 753 series locomotives which were upgraded to pulling passenger trains (by adding 400V supply connector and few minor changes)) are called "Nurek" which stand for Scuba Diver. They are called that way because of the look of the front side of the locomotive - in Czech Republic people use "Brejlovec" name which means a person who is weraing a glasses :D (19:50)
So... One locomotive, so many nicknames 😂
When I was watching yours video I`ve been thinking about the date of yours trip because I was at Hel station on 27th of July 2020 and the weather was almost the same but the 5140 "Jantar" train from Hel to Warsaw West (Warszawa Zachodnia) was pulled by "754 037" instead of "754 015" locomotive :D
So once more - thank you for you video and time :D
Germans also call it Brillenschlange (literally "snake with glasses," but is also an alternate German name for the Indian cobra).
@@gkjsooley After your comment, I just can not remove that picture of snake with glasses from my brain 😂
@@KUBUTECH911 ..ano, brejlovec je had (kobra) a nurek polsky je potápěč ;-)
Awesome journey sir.... Love u so much....
9:23 "Kibel and Turbokibel"
That would be the SKM trains from Tricity, I think
@@stevenwoolley2727 They are jargon names of EN57 electric multiple units - very popular in Poland. The name (translated - toilet) comes from a very unpleasent smell inside of them. And turbokibel is just modernised EN57.
This is the best😁. That name don't use only polish train hobbyist 😂. Great!
I'm polish and i think that the name kibel (toilet), comes from location of high voltage cabinet, which in first segment is placed where toilet is suposed to be. (I have a lot of expierience in riding en57, and i never experienced any sort of smell.
@@pantografnozycowyzbyka7051 go ahead and google it then
PÓŁWYSRP HELSKI JEST SUPER. JASTARNIA NAJLEPSZA!!!
Great video !!
"Car №13, which runs to Hel" - sounds like "to hell" ))
hel-helium
Superb video
Nice trip and next time double decker coaches which was spotted in this video.
Great video
Very good video!
90 seconds - then the video starts
Extra, my favourite train
Turbokibel train depot:D You made my dayxD
Eh nawet angielskiego nie umie
@@imperiumdodga5151 ??
@@piogdypl3759 nic
Gdynia has beautiful main railways station building, with modernist mosaics inside. Some of them are in room currently rent by mcdonald's. Did you have a chance to see them ?
3:16 Train is named "Jantar" not after a village but after the symbol of the Baltic Sea - jantar in polish means amber...
Polska !!!
That was unexpected, seeing Czech diesel loco pulling Polish intercity train to the middle of nowhere. I'm wondering what is it doing so far away from home.
A couple of them are leased because of PKP Intercity's lack of diesel locomotives :)
Es magnifico ver países como Polonia y todos los países conectados de alguna forma con Rusia, han avanzado mucho en los transportes ferroviarios, y al estilo europeo, los trenes se han modernizado llegando a ser unas verdaderas bellezas, y también se han remodelado los antiguos y sus Locomotoras, es notoria la preocupación de las empresas o las autoridades , los avances aveces se tardan pero llegan para el agrado de los usuarios y veo que hasta la más humilde y retirada región de Europa del Este tiene también un humilde trencito que conecta todos los lugares posibles, soy de Sud América y me da una gran alegría ver tanto avance , todos los países de la región gozan de una belleza increíble, se nota la mano de Dios ahí, los paisajes son maravillosos y la gente se merece transportes así, gracias.
where did you get a lot of money?
But train TLK 300 Galicja from Przemyśl GŁ to praha is only 4 cars Long...
6:55 this disel loco we cald in Poland the diver 😃😉
Haha indeed, I'm not polish but I always think that they look like giant goggles :D
For explain thi locomotive "the diver" in Poland is very uniqe and try to live look a very uncredible. I forgot but build state is not Poland.
@@gravelpit1960 I think it's from Czech republic
Wow, what a car this 1st class is. Polish railway industry again excels itself, this time in name of H. Cegielski FPS Poznan factory. Even a wireless charge, I swear I've never seen anything like that on a train.
And this restaurant car is one of two (I think) that normally operate on Paris - Moscow and Paris - Nice expresses.
About the reservations: they used to be mandatory on PKP IC even before Corona - or am I wrong?
Before Corona, reservations weren't mandatory :)
@@adams3834 really? I had to get (gratis) compulsory reservations when travelling on PKP IC with Interrail ticket.
@@markoobid2005 well, thats weird, back in the days i was travelling with PKP pretty often and in most cases i was buying the ticket onboard, i was paying extra 10zł (~2.5eur) for this privillege, but it was possible! Maybe that has something to do with that interrail pass, im surprised though.
To be exact, that car with wireless chargers is an old car recently refurbished by ZNTK Mińsk Mazowiecki / Pesa Bydgoszcz, and in terms of comfort these refurbishments are one of the worst. Old bogies weren't changed, so it's quite noisy in there, and in second class the seats are so poorly designed, my back hurt after 20 mins of travel, while it didn't after 15 hours of ride in an old 111A car 😅
@@RzMK oh, I thought it is a 156A type car of Cegielski, because of dark stripe around the windows.
Dla Nurka jednak najlepsze Morze bałtyckie.
Number 13 and it runs to Hel........ LOL. I hope you didn't take this trip on Friday too.
18:50 about that choice of the non-AC vs AC cars. The middle 120A car that You see coupled for most of the DMUs are there to fulfil the bike compartment "part" for the train. Also they are colored because Blue and Yellow are painted vehicles for this region and red-orange is are the POLREGIO company colors.
Is the intermittant buzzing interference from a mobile phone?
that must be some bug in the video editing software
Maybe time for a new phone?
i used a gopro - never againb
A dlaczego? na Lini sopot-hel jedzie czeska spalinowa. Mamy teraz kilka nowych lokomotyw spalinowo elektrycznych 🤔😁.
Bo nasze stare SU 45, 46 wyeksploatowane i pocięte na złom :/
Jantar is a Amber
I think there is something wrong with microphone in your camera...
what is with your camera ? The sound...
no; my editing program has screwed; i may have to rework the video again
فيديو رائع وممتاز جدا
Wait, česke drahy from Hel all the way to Czech Republic? Bloody hell m8, thats a long way to go.
I understood from comments that those locos are leased from Czech due to lack of diesel locos by this carrier. They only ride, between Gdynia, and Hel
@@marektln yes, but there is that overnight sleeper train to and from Bohumin, too, which Austin mentioned in the video.
..tak, TLK Wydmy latem ;-)
"I'm on the highway to hel"
*Railway to hell ;-)
9:27 💝
Jantar in Portugues is dinner
Interesting. but Jantar we read Yantar.
Kurde! Za PRL-u, było źle bo mało.miejsc,teraz znów jeżdżą puste... Gdzie ten Złoty Środek?! 😃
Nie ma. Ja przed sezonem w roku 2016 jechałem z Katowic do Gdyni bez miejsca siedzącego bo był taki tłok. Podróż życia.
@@goju09alt9 to se ne vrati
Polish trains are always nearly empty, state subsidies?
There may be other reasons. Usually during the week days the trains to the holiday destinations are empty, so if it's not the weekend this is normal. "Jantar" is the Intercity class train, being the most expensive option to Hel. The train departs from Warsaw and runs via Gdansk (Poland's biggest maritime city) so the ones who travel for business purposes leave there. Also it doesn't stop between Warsaw and Gdansk, so it doesn't collect any more passengers on its way. But Jantar is seasonal, running only during the summer months. And last but not least: covid.
Yes, you are right, due to the Polish transport policy, most smaller cities have to be connected by express train. They are launched as inter-voivodeship connections (inter-voivodeship transport plan made and financed by the governmt), as regional trains are launched by the voivodeship (voivodeship transport plan by voivodeship), sometimes also other levels of local government (like SKM in the Tri-City). PKP IC trains in IC and TLK category are public. Only EC and EIP category are commercial.
Nonsense, they are normally pretty busy. Corona year means 25% less passengers (on avg) than normal.
@@ignacypaderewski2685 Ok, so I should have seen 75% of passengers for 2020. I saw nobody. 75% of nothing is nothing and that is what I saw. Beautiful trains, though. Wish I were on it.
@@cestmoi1262 you are making a general statement based on one train (1st class only) - that's not how statistics work :)
Corona has had a massive impact, PKP IC just cancelled many trains for the next month or so because of low demand.
(7:19) Hello doc7austin, I see you noted nickname "Goggles" (Germ.: Taucherbrille) of this Czech diesel later in video (19:48).
In Poland it's nickamed "nurek" (a diver). ;)
@@MRG09100 - Thanks. :)
To be precise the 1870 station was burned in 1945 during the fight for the city, it was then build in the 60-ties and not very nice "communist" era building that quickly degraded and it was demolished to make room for this modern one. Before someone says that in 2015 we destroy an
antique building.
Not all modernist ("communist") buildings are ugly, some are even nice, but yes, some have deteriorated to such a degree, salvation is no longer possible.
Why does this train use a Czech ČD loco if it's operated on Polish territory with PKP railcars?
We don’t have enough ours.
The line is non electrified, poland doesn't have enough deisel locos for passenger trains. The deisel st44 are all (or most) in cargo, even though they were used in passenger trains. Same situation with sm42. Su45 and su46 are mostly going to junkyards. That's why poland needs to borrow deisel locomotives from Czechs.
@@pantografnozycowyzbyka7051 I had no idea, thanks for the reply! Why doesn't PKP have new diesel locos though? Are they planning to electrify the lines soon?
@@osasunaitor There's one fresh polish deisel locomotive called pesa gama, and it is used to carry passenger trains, but i think that there aren't any other modern deisel locomotives due to pollution.
Oh, i have forgot that newag builds griffin which is semi-deisel locomotive (it has deisel engine but also electric engine) and it is used to carry passenger trains.
Nice video. But in dutch, hell = hel...
The town embraces that name with a tongue in cheek. The regular bus line from Wladyslawowo to Hel is numbered 666. :)
@@MRG09100 Nice to know, thank you!
@@Martin-on2pp Actually this name is related to the old Nordic times. Since the weather is always bad here (as you can see in the video made in August), it was believed this is the land of the goddess of afterlife named Hel. And this is why in most of the Germanic languages the hell has her name, with some spelling alterations.
@@MRG09100 Education by youtube😁
We have a town called Monster, so.
Nurek
Also while I am at it : 'The train HAD left.....' NOT 'The train HAS left....sorry to be pedantic !
Not the first time a railtrip in Poland goes to Hell...
Second.
funny thing every time when you go via pkp you must know that in 90% of the time they are late and here you get lucky
so people say that pkp means "poczekaj kiedyś przyjedzie" and in engilsh means "wait sometime it will arive. :)
Film OK ale dźwięk beznqdziejny
Jantar doenst means any village :P Jantar menas amber
And now compare that empty train to this: /watch?v=bho0HW-T5Cw
I don't want to go to Poland because of Corona
I agree with you. We have really stupid politicians in Poland who sow panic and use terror.
@@pantograf4543 true
Are you American? 'Cars' instead of 'coaches', 'coaches' in Europe ! And it is 'on' the Baltic sea NOT 'at', suggest you improve your English. I can teach you if you wish !!
We don't use the term "coaches" in Mainland Europe to name rail cars;
In Mainland Europe "coaches" term refers to the intercity busses - for railway cars we use "rail cars" or "wagons".
"At the Baltic sea" is the correct form...
If you use "on" the Baltic sea you are saying that you are for example on a boat on a sea.
If you use "at" the Baltic sea you are saying that you are near the sea shore.
@@KUBUTECH911 I do not agree, 'coaches' is European term for railway carriages AND long distance buses I.e. 'coaches'. 'Cars' is a Americanism for railway coaches.
@@KUBUTECH911 'WAGONS' are railway vehicles.
Where in Mainland Europe is the term coaches used for railway carriages?
So sad that I can´t enter Hel , because of LGBTQ+ free zone ;(
What XDDDD
@@adams3834 in poland there are LGBTQ + Free Zones this means those people like me can't enter this region
@@alexanderjesionka4713 This is pure bullshit, i live in Poland, and even though those so-called "LGBTQ+ free zones" exist, it doesnt mean, that gay people can't enter them. Basically it means nothing but a name. Other thing- Hel,Puck,Gdańsk,Sopot or Gdynia regions aren't a part of this stupid "zones", they are limited to the eastern part of poland, which we like to call "deep russia" or "wilderness" I hate current government probably as much as you do, but dont lie about the situation in our country.
@@alexanderjesionka4713 Complete nonsense! I suggest less mainstream propaganda.
@@adams3834 im polish but I live in austria so ye
Great video!