I bought an 0-Coast a few months ago, and just last month, started my first rack. My 1010 Bitbox mkii is on the way, and Tempi is next on the list for controlling the trigger ins. Can't wait to try it.
One reason ‘music for 18 musicians’ is so fascinating is that it approaches human-expressed music from the never-ceasing aspect of the sequencer. Because of that unusual juxtaposition, not only is it difficult/fatiguing to perform, it feels completely different from other classical music. It’s beautiful but also shocking in its almost complete lack of negative space. This is a great video, thanks for the great modules too.
@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC No, I mean it! So inspiring. I remember using stop/reset but never in this way. One of the richest sequences I've heard on the Shared so far.
Great video and patching! It really makes me want a Black and Gold system! I do have a 0Coast preordered for when they come back in stock, that will be my first Make Noise product.
It is a great system for sure, but I think, having had a B&G system for a few years and not being a multi-tracking kind of person... it would be *HUGELY* improved if it shipped with an extra Optomix and/or extra Moddemix. As-is the distributed mixing approach often asks you to make a choice between mixing and VCAs, or mixing and the other use cases for ch1/4 of Maths. Creativity and understanding the system helps, of course, but sometimes it's nice to have fewer obstacles between brain and sound.
@@cardboardmusic very true, lol. In the next few months, I want to get a 0-Coast, Strega, and 0-Control. Honestly, I think that will be plenty for me to dive into for a while.
Sure! If you press both PGM buttons at once you will be on the Phase page. From here hold the channel button you want to phase shift and then use the PGM buttons to shift it forward and backward. Or, alternatively, it will follow the phase of your taps if doing human programming.
That’s great.mi don’t have a Rene but I think I can achieve something similar with my Microbrute 2s on sequencing detail. I have maths and morphagene and Mimeophon and various other utilities and the instruo Csl as the complex oscillator so reckon I’ve got enough to make a very similar patch.
Love that intensity on the off pattern in Erbe Verb; I'd love to hear just a tad more intense (even better preferably without the additional modulation - seemed a bit mysterious) Anyway, felt like instant IDM, just addd Make Noise. :-P
It sucks when you spend hours writing a horn arrangement and then when you get to the studio, you realize there are no rests for the trombone for like 10 measures.
Great video! I am still trying to learn how the phase timing works on Tempi, and have been trying to get two channels to run out of phase like you have in this example (ch1 and ch2 are on opposite phases). Do you use the course or fine phase adjustment, and how many “presses” do you use to get them in this 180 degree phase relationship? Sorry if this is a trivial thing!
In this case it would be coarse phasing, and half as many presses as the division the channels are set to. So for example if they are at /16, then you would do coarse phase and 8 presses to make them 8 clocks out of phase.
Great idea to be talking about, but it ended up with a patch with very little, if not no, negative space by the end. I think it's really hard to not let it run away with you. It's an issue in music that goes way beyond synths though
Yes it sort of evolved more into "letting each voice make room for the other" than having everybody rest all at once. How and why to make arrangement decisions is indeed a huge topic for music. Hoping to explore it further in the future. Thanks for your comment!
@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC Still a really interesting idea and a great patch. It is a huge topic with no right answers and it's all down to taste. I think we can all learn a lot from how different instruments and styles work and function. Great to know you'll be exploring it more in the future, can't wait for the videos
Mysteries of the universe explained, you dont open your LPGs with your envelope generators like in a filthy subtractive hardwired synth because thats for the weak, you just patch your gate outputs straight from your sequencer... raw like that lol
@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC Imagine subtracting portions of that gate with an analog computer designed for musical purpouses, just picture how far could it take you... And even then, why stop there?
Poorly disguised ro VCA propaganda. :) JK. I was always trying to create more of a sense of space in my music. It turned out all I needed to do was shut up for a second. I was glad to see this.
lol why did somebody 'down thumbs' this lololol i always laugh when i see that in videos like..... they knew what they were going to get when they clicked the video right? lol
These concepts are underrated and are ESSENTIAL if a musician wants to connect with their listener effectively. Please make more of these!
Negative space and dynamics are probably the two most overlooked aspects in music in general, and in synth music especially.
I love these videos, btw.
I bought an 0-Coast a few months ago, and just last month, started my first rack. My 1010 Bitbox mkii is on the way, and Tempi is next on the list for controlling the trigger ins. Can't wait to try it.
Always enjoy hearing you talking and patching that system.
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching :)
One reason ‘music for 18 musicians’ is so fascinating is that it approaches human-expressed music from the never-ceasing aspect of the sequencer. Because of that unusual juxtaposition, not only is it difficult/fatiguing to perform, it feels completely different from other classical music. It’s beautiful but also shocking in its almost complete lack of negative space. This is a great video, thanks for the great modules too.
That erbe-verb for percussion. golly
It's fun :P
Toujours aussi intéressant, merci beaucoup
Amazing patch!
Thanks!
@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC No, I mean it! So inspiring. I remember using stop/reset but never in this way. One of the richest sequences I've heard on the Shared so far.
excellent reminder to use pause in between
Great video and patching! It really makes me want a Black and Gold system! I do have a 0Coast preordered for when they come back in stock, that will be my first Make Noise product.
Happy patching!
Me too (for a Black and Gold), but I'd start with the 0-Coast, after all the next step is going to cost you 5000€ .... !
It is a great system for sure, but I think, having had a B&G system for a few years and not being a multi-tracking kind of person... it would be *HUGELY* improved if it shipped with an extra Optomix and/or extra Moddemix. As-is the distributed mixing approach often asks you to make a choice between mixing and VCAs, or mixing and the other use cases for ch1/4 of Maths. Creativity and understanding the system helps, of course, but sometimes it's nice to have fewer obstacles between brain and sound.
@@cardboardmusic very true, lol. In the next few months, I want to get a 0-Coast, Strega, and 0-Control. Honestly, I think that will be plenty for me to dive into for a while.
@@levkamenev3904 You'll definitely have fun with those. I also have a 0-Coast which I use in conjunction with some other modules, always interesting!
great vid!.....sadly we don't see the Morph being integrated into these demos that often :(
I would slay for a Shared System. your gear is so sick.
this is why I need a Tempi!
Great One Walker! Can you explain the trick with the tempi Chanels witch have the same tempo but are Out of phase so the send a gate after each other?
Sure! If you press both PGM buttons at once you will be on the Phase page. From here hold the channel button you want to phase shift and then use the PGM buttons to shift it forward and backward. Or, alternatively, it will follow the phase of your taps if doing human programming.
Thanks for the explanation! Will try this.
Works great! Thanks Walker
that was awesome! love it!
Thanks!
Excellent insight, Thanx man, -
Glad you enjoyed it!
That’s great.mi don’t have a Rene but I think I can achieve something similar with my Microbrute 2s on sequencing detail. I have maths and morphagene and Mimeophon and various other utilities and the instruo Csl as the complex oscillator so reckon I’ve got enough to make a very similar patch.
you can also "mute" your gates/triggers with a VCA, or a logic AND gate, or even with Maths channels 1 or 4 if you aren't using them already
Yes, many MANY ways to explore these concepts :)
Love that intensity on the off pattern in Erbe Verb; I'd love to hear just a tad more intense (even better preferably without the additional modulation - seemed a bit mysterious)
Anyway, felt like instant IDM, just addd Make Noise. :-P
Neat idea, thanks
Thanks for watching!
It sucks when you spend hours writing a horn arrangement and then when you get to the studio, you realize there are no rests for the trombone for like 10 measures.
That's a good idea, I'll try that!
Happy patching!
Great video! I am still trying to learn how the phase timing works on Tempi, and have been trying to get two channels to run out of phase like you have in this example (ch1 and ch2 are on opposite phases). Do you use the course or fine phase adjustment, and how many “presses” do you use to get them in this 180 degree phase relationship? Sorry if this is a trivial thing!
In this case it would be coarse phasing, and half as many presses as the division the channels are set to. So for example if they are at /16, then you would do coarse phase and 8 presses to make them 8 clocks out of phase.
Great idea to be talking about, but it ended up with a patch with very little, if not no, negative space by the end. I think it's really hard to not let it run away with you. It's an issue in music that goes way beyond synths though
Yes it sort of evolved more into "letting each voice make room for the other" than having everybody rest all at once. How and why to make arrangement decisions is indeed a huge topic for music. Hoping to explore it further in the future. Thanks for your comment!
@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC Still a really interesting idea and a great patch. It is a huge topic with no right answers and it's all down to taste. I think we can all learn a lot from how different instruments and styles work and function. Great to know you'll be exploring it more in the future, can't wait for the videos
Watch them, collapsing
its a beautiful patch walker, what scales are you using on Rene?
Mysteries of the universe explained, you dont open your LPGs with your envelope generators like in a filthy subtractive hardwired synth because thats for the weak, you just patch your gate outputs straight from your sequencer... raw like that lol
Gotta say I really do love the "gated LPG" sound, even more than pinging it these days :D
@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC Imagine subtracting portions of that gate with an analog computer designed for musical purpouses, just picture how far could it take you... And even then, why stop there?
DEEP Stuff, are you Morton Subotnick's grandson?
Poorly disguised ro VCA propaganda. :) JK. I was always trying to create more of a sense of space in my music. It turned out all I needed to do was shut up for a second. I was glad to see this.
Oof!
lol why did somebody 'down thumbs' this lololol
i always laugh when i see that in videos like..... they knew what they were going to get when they clicked the video right? lol
Also known as rests? Lol
Yep