Keith, You're pretty good at that "banjo pickin'".(LOL) It's good to see the old girl get a fresh coat of pain, some oil and grease, and assembled. I would imagine you are anxious to start making chips (and I don't mean the corn or potato variety). Thanks for the video! Have a good one! Dave
LaBlond certainly didn't cheat on the change gear material, Torque!!! Looking forward to seeing it run. Looks like you could give Adam a run for his money!
you might want to think about hanging flags, or banners, from your ceiling to knock back some of that sound reverberation we're getting now. lots of them. love your vids and will keep on watching them!
he had a few dings when putting it together anyway, he mentioned once having to touch up , i guess theres just a little more still. one big advantage of brush painting vs spray!
Pictures; Ah, yes I have made pictures of radio circuit boards and many other things as I take them apart. Before I did this there was a few...OK many things that didn't work like they should. Thanks for the video, Greg.
hi Keith, another great video on the lebonde lathe restoration! also seeing you with full grown beard, you look like the "Trapper John M.D. (hope you recall that TV medical show starring Pernell Roberts (of Bonanza fame)) of the machine shop... and in a way you are a "doctor" of machines by repairing them and making them great again! please keep up the great videos and may all of 2017 be a very healthy, fun, prosperous, and glorious for you and all of your family and loved ones.
thanks keith long awaited and much appreciated episode looking forward to many more as usual. side note i know its been covered previously but i am liking the beard , it looks good on ya lol 1 vote for it stays
The beard will eventually have to go once I get out in the field later this spring/summer and I have to start to occasionally wear a respirator. You can't get the respirator to seal up over the beard....
Been watching your videos for quite some time. I would say you have progressed from doing projects to machine repair, refurbishment, training classes, etc. Actually this appears to be niche. Keep up the good work.
Just a little trick to get the play between the gears right. Put a sheet of paper between them before tightening up, that usually gives you the right amount of play.
Love watching the rebirth / refurbishing of a fine old American machine, a piece of American industrial history really. Keith do ya know what the commenters are talking about some needle bearing you didn't grease / oil, is it lubricated by the machines oiling system? Just want you to have top results.
hi keith, love from cyprus the laith is looking realy nice keep up the great work that you are doing. hope that you will be doing the same work to your other machines.
I think i still would have packed it before installing it, just because it was so clean- it should eventually get grease in everywhere from the zerk, but I don't think i'd want to rely on that for initial startup..
Looks great, I just now realized I may have a face plate to fit this lathe. What spindle size is it? It might be too big a swing though as I think it is a 16 or 18" plate.
I have been following this restoration from part one. The lathe is looking really good; I think you are doing two great jobs here at once. The first job is the actual restoration, and the second one is the documenting thereof. One question - something was different in this video. New mic? A helper with the camera? Or am I imaging things...
Given the very high humidity in the air do you not think it would be good to oil each thread and shaft and other push fit parts before assembly? When you took this all apart it was easy because everything was oily. Are you not risking the formation of rust which will store up trouble for you or the next owner in the future for the sake of a moments thought?
Looking good Keith. Bye the way, beard looks great, I would keep it young man. Perhaps you could do a Keith Fenner and get it braided when it gets longer? Kindest regards. Joe.
My granddaughter calls that gear cover on my 13" LeBlond Regal lathe that I'm restoring grandpa's Mickey Mouse Ears. When I first got the lathe the gear cover was black.
Nice looking job Keith, apart from those crappy washers you fitted. If you want to give me some dimensions and a mailing address, I'd be more than happy to turn some up for you.
Go back and watch some of the earlier videos in this series - all of that is discussed. But, it is a Sherwin Williams oil based enamel and I brushed it on - which is how I like to paint cast iron. Spray is better for smoother surfaces like sheet metal though.
I thought it would be no good to put grease on the gear teeth because they will hold and chips from machining or from them gears themselves and cause them to wear quicker
Chester Woodward I think I agree with you, though a film of grease is much smaller than the backlash shown in the video. What is that drive train for? Threading?
You have to have a little bit of wiggle or the gears will freeze up over time from too much friction. And, once they are loaded and moving, it takes all the backlash out. No problem here. Backlash can be excessive but you can't have them too tight either.
I think anti-seeze is over used. This is going on a lathe that will stay in a machine shop. It will be well oiled and cared for. If it were going to be outside or in a rough environment, that would be different. I did not have problems getting anything apart on the machine, and I assure you that it did not have anti-seeze on anything when it was built.
I'm enjoying the LeBlond restoration. You do have one thing that that you do that make me cringe every time I see you do it. Please understand, I'm literally one of those folks who can be accurately described as knowing just enough to make me dangerous but every bit of the formal training I've had (admittedly very little) has stressed that transfer of natural body oils from skin etc through touching metal parts bare handed when assembling them is a bad thing. Your habit of spreading oil on dissimilar metals with bare fingers goes against every bit of instruction I've had. I'm now wondering whether the cautions I was taught were justified or not. Would you share your thinking about the advisability of doing that?
I am quite sure that some academic out there would argue your point to death, but in my opinion I just cannot see where it will ever make a bit of difference in the long run.
Exactly why I find your take on such things so valuable, I'll take personal observation and experience over academic theory argued to the n'th degree any time. Thanks
On the road again Keith out of interest what do you for work And what Does an average day at work consist of ,have been watching you for Some years now and it's like the missing link
One is an on-off and the other reverses the carriage feed. Like Tim commented, it has carriage stops on it - there are three positions - forward, reverse and neutral.
Ops, I committed before saw the end. I used a similar LaBlond lathe in college metal shop. Loved that machine. Sooth as silk, accurate, and so powerful.
most heavy old iron sells for its scrap value on its sticker weight, theres many floating about but few with the means to move them or want to restore them, so fewer exist each year. youd need to be a machinist to have the resources to move/restore and use them but most machinists have newer lathes as they need to earn money, it would be like a taxi driver buying a vintage car. so in reality its a few passionate either retired or those with day jobs that pay enough to afford it.
BigRalph I don't think it's about the possible monetary gain. Some people have passion that exceeds remuneration - for whatever it is they are doing. Having said that - if an average joe watches TV for 3 hours a day, would anyone ask him how much money his TV watching was earning him? Spending 3 hours a day on a given project / passion is likely to give almost immeasurably better results in anyone's life, than 3 hours in front of the TV...
Ant Mallett _"I don't think it's about the possible monetary gain"._ Never said it was. I'm fully cognizant of Keith's motivations for restoring this machine (and the others he restores). Don't assume the motivation behind a question. Especially in a YT comment section. In this case, you mistook simple curiosity for something else entirely because you tried to read something in to it that wasn't there. I should not have had to explain myself to you just for asking Keith a question. Annoying. :/
Keth I have a 20" heavy book I can send you if you want it shows all the parts that go on the lathe just bigger let me know and I'll send it to you if you want
I would love to have it! Please email me and I will send you my mailing address. You can find my email address at the start of my videos on screen when my name pops up.
I guess I'm in that ten percent. Do you know why a ball peen hammer has different ends ? one side to put the lumps on and the other to knock them in...
Do you people not watch or pay attention to the video? There must be a half dozen comments on here about Keith forgetting to grease the needle bearing. At 8:30 he shows the greasing procedure and explains what and why he is doing it!! How would you miss that??!!.
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Keith,
You're pretty good at that "banjo pickin'".(LOL) It's good to see the old girl get a fresh coat of pain, some oil and grease, and assembled. I would imagine you are anxious to start making chips (and I don't mean the corn or potato variety). Thanks for the video!
Have a good one!
Dave
LaBlond certainly didn't cheat on the change gear material, Torque!!! Looking forward to seeing it run. Looks like you could give Adam a run for his money!
you might want to think about hanging flags, or banners, from your ceiling to knock back some of that sound reverberation we're getting now. lots of them.
love your vids and will keep on watching them!
That is in the plans. Time and money.....
Looks good Keith. Can't wait to see it running.
Bob
Aside from the gap in the paint job, the le blonde is really coming along nicely! Well done Keith!
You can see the paint error at 2:33
he had a few dings when putting it together anyway, he mentioned once having to touch up , i guess theres just a little more still. one big advantage of brush painting vs spray!
I got a bit too close to the machine with the wire wheel. I still have to do a touch up on several places with paint so it will get a new coat there.
Looking good Keith. Enjoying your videos.
Probably be as good as new when finished. Enjoy your videos.
Looking good Keith!
Beautiful restoration.
That is one good looking old lathe now.
Pictures; Ah, yes I have made pictures of radio circuit boards and many other things as I take them apart. Before I did this there was a few...OK many things that didn't work like they should. Thanks for the video, Greg.
Man thats a beautiful machine.
Another Great Video Keith
I really like that paint on that machine.
Grease and clean oil are the cheapest things you can buy and you got a clean apron! Scraping class worked out well!
Good to see you making progress on the Leblond, will be fun to see it running soon.
Looking wery good progress well done.
That is a beautiful lathe.
Good job Keith from the old screw machine guy
THANK YOU...for sharing.
Nice machine. Better than new!
One hell of a job , as usual the paint is terrific congrats
looking good keith
Nice job Keith on the LeBlond it is looking great!
EPIC AWESOME !! That is the best looking lathe of it's size I have seen in years .. Thumbs up Keith ..
Looks great!!
looks awesome
looks great
hi Keith, another great video on the lebonde lathe restoration! also seeing you with full grown beard, you look like the "Trapper John M.D. (hope you recall that TV medical show starring Pernell Roberts (of Bonanza fame)) of the machine shop... and in a way you are a "doctor" of machines by repairing them and making them great again! please keep up the great videos and may all of 2017 be a very healthy, fun, prosperous, and glorious for you and all of your family and loved ones.
keith looking good.
thanks keith long awaited and much appreciated episode looking forward to many more as usual. side note i know its been covered previously but i am liking the beard , it looks good on ya lol 1 vote for it stays
The beard will eventually have to go once I get out in the field later this spring/summer and I have to start to occasionally wear a respirator. You can't get the respirator to seal up over the beard....
thats a shame
Wow nice job ¡ looks new and ready for anther half century!Thanks
Been watching your videos for quite some time.
I would say you have progressed from doing projects to machine repair, refurbishment, training classes, etc. Actually this appears to be niche.
Keep up the good work.
Nicely done. Looking great :)
You're the only guy I know who can make a lathe look sexy.
Cool beard, Keith! You look distinguished, like a professor or something.
well now that you are al most finished it sure looks great
Just a little trick to get the play between the gears right. Put a sheet of paper between them before tightening up, that usually gives you the right amount of play.
schorse1000 not plain paper. The best is the one from stickers that is glossy to one side
Keith. The lathe is looking great. So is the beard BUT there may be a safety issues around machines. Regards from Johannesburg
Exquisite.
Love watching the rebirth / refurbishing of a fine old American machine, a piece of American industrial history really. Keith do ya know what the commenters are talking about some needle bearing you didn't grease / oil, is it lubricated by the machines oiling system? Just want you to have top results.
The needle bearing was greased after it was installed via grease fittings.
AH-! I should'a known better than to ask-lol
hi keith, love from cyprus the laith is looking realy nice keep up the great work that you are doing. hope that you will be doing the same work to your other machines.
Wow! That's really starting to look great, Would love to see a before and after photo, side by side in the last video of this restoration.
I have plenty of pictures from where I started so you will likely see something like that!
Awesome! :)
OK, thanks for the grease.
jusb1066 yes first thing I thought of that's not like Keith to not put oil on something like that i didn't know it had a grease zerk.
was anyone else worried he wasnt going to lube that needle bearing? i sure was
I think i still would have packed it before installing it, just because it was so clean- it should eventually get grease in everywhere from the zerk, but I don't think i'd want to rely on that for initial startup..
There's an oiler at the end of the shaft, so you can lube it with an oil press.
Great comment. I was wondering from the moment he put that needle bearing on. Glad I am not the only one.
LOL. I am sure he was aware of this. After greasing, the hand turning surely spreads the grease as well. Ain't his first rodeo.
i must admit i was like "what are you doing" but he kept us in suspense!
Looks great, I just now realized I may have a face plate to fit this lathe. What spindle size is it? It might be too big a swing though as I think it is a 16 or 18" plate.
The two small gears need lube, grease or oil on the back side between the shims and housing.
I have been following this restoration from part one. The lathe is looking really good; I think you are doing two great jobs here at once. The first job is the actual restoration, and the second one is the documenting thereof. One question - something was different in this video. New mic? A helper with the camera? Or am I imaging things...
I think you are imagining things... Sorry....
Keith - OK, my bad. I'm about to watch the next part now. Cheers!
Given the very high humidity in the air do you not think it would be good to oil each thread and shaft and other push fit parts before assembly? When you took this all apart it was easy because everything was oily. Are you not risking the formation of rust which will store up trouble for you or the next owner in the future for the sake of a moments thought?
Looking good Keith. Bye the way, beard looks great, I would keep it young man. Perhaps you could do a Keith Fenner and get it braided when it gets longer? Kindest regards. Joe.
she's shaping up nicely Keith almost done with her now?
My granddaughter calls that gear cover on my 13" LeBlond Regal lathe that I'm restoring grandpa's Mickey Mouse Ears. When I first got the lathe the gear cover was black.
Nice looking job Keith, apart from those crappy washers you fitted. If you want to give me some dimensions and a mailing address, I'd be more than happy to turn some up for you.
You are REALLY close to making chips now ...
Great work Keith! can you please elaborate o your paint choice and process?
Go back and watch some of the earlier videos in this series - all of that is discussed. But, it is a Sherwin Williams oil based enamel and I brushed it on - which is how I like to paint cast iron. Spray is better for smoother surfaces like sheet metal though.
Don't forget to tighten your bolts.
I thought it would be no good to put grease on the gear teeth because they will hold and chips from machining or from them gears themselves and cause them to wear quicker
should have warmed it slightly with a propane torch or hot air gun.. looks cold... there .. notice the green long sleeve..
Did they change those lathes from oil to grease? I thought pretty much all the leblond lathes used 30 weight oil instead of grease.
30 weight oil in the headstock.
Nice job. But the needle bearing was a touch dry.
Any plans to do a video of scraping in one of the Monarchs?
I plan to have lots of scraping content in the future. I am trying to get a few more tools sourced before I will be ready to do much in my shop.
Seems like unusually wide heavy gears on the LeBlond...Dave
Guessing some people watching the videos are suffering from Parkinson's, that's the only way there can be any thumbs down.
from what ive read, mobile devices give a few thumbs down accidentally due to them being harder to click
jusb1066 it's also just a way to modify your feed content. the only way for instance to set music preference in TH-cam music video playlists.
Did you forget to paint the idler gear?
Keith,let me know if you need any LeBlond or Monarch lathe parts.
I've got a broken part on my 16" Model K Monarch. Send me an email if you think you might have something.
Can the speed not be changed by substituting the upper and lower drive gears?
Yes, but it messes up thread pitches that are marked on the quick change gear box.
What sort of puller took off the bottom gear after it was malleted on?
wont be long, chips will fly.
Keith, why did you leave backlash in the gears? Does it not matter?
Chester Woodward I think I agree with you, though a film of grease is much smaller than the backlash shown in the video. What is that drive train for? Threading?
You have to have a little bit of wiggle or the gears will freeze up over time from too much friction. And, once they are loaded and moving, it takes all the backlash out. No problem here. Backlash can be excessive but you can't have them too tight either.
Why didn't you use anti seeze compound the spindles before assembdy?
it didnt seize in the last 50 years with having a bit of oil on it, it wont seize now
I think anti-seeze is over used. This is going on a lathe that will stay in a machine shop. It will be well oiled and cared for. If it were going to be outside or in a rough environment, that would be different. I did not have problems getting anything apart on the machine, and I assure you that it did not have anti-seeze on anything when it was built.
I'm enjoying the LeBlond restoration. You do have one thing that that you do that make me cringe every time I see you do it. Please understand, I'm literally one of those folks who can be accurately described as knowing just enough to make me dangerous but every bit of the formal training I've had (admittedly very little) has stressed that transfer of natural body oils from skin etc through touching metal parts bare handed when assembling them is a bad thing. Your habit of spreading oil on dissimilar metals with bare fingers goes against every bit of instruction I've had. I'm now wondering whether the cautions I was taught were justified or not. Would you share your thinking about the advisability of doing that?
I am quite sure that some academic out there would argue your point to death, but in my opinion I just cannot see where it will ever make a bit of difference in the long run.
Exactly why I find your take on such things so valuable, I'll take personal observation and experience over academic theory argued to the n'th degree any time. Thanks
Still no carriage stop, looks like its going to remain a spare part till the next restoration :(
I have one for the machine, it just has not made it on yet.
On the road again Keith out of interest what do you for work And what
Does an average day at work consist of ,have been watching you for
Some years now and it's like the missing link
for Beyer, some link to agriculture
jusb1066
Thanks you
there are 2 rods beneath the feed screw and the lead screw. one is to turn the motor on and off. what is the other one for?
reverse?
I believe it is the control/stop rod. The rod you set the carriage stop on.
One is an on-off and the other reverses the carriage feed. Like Tim commented, it has carriage stops on it - there are three positions - forward, reverse and neutral.
Why don't you add any grease to roller bearings?
he used the grease nipple, its was ok, i too was worried
Ops, I committed before saw the end. I used a similar LaBlond lathe in college metal shop. Loved that machine. Sooth as silk, accurate, and so powerful.
Everybody is worried about that bearing! I should have commented when I was installing it...
Curious to know what you estimate the increase in resale value (%) is on this lathe with all the restoration work you've put in to it.
BigRalphSmith probably not anywhere near what it should be worth. Lol
most heavy old iron sells for its scrap value on its sticker weight, theres many floating about but few with the means to move them or want to restore them, so fewer exist each year. youd need to be a machinist to have the resources to move/restore and use them but most machinists have newer lathes as they need to earn money, it would be like a taxi driver buying a vintage car. so in reality its a few passionate either retired or those with day jobs that pay enough to afford it.
jusb1066 That's the sad truth, man.
BigRalph I don't think it's about the possible monetary gain. Some people have passion that exceeds remuneration - for whatever it is they are doing. Having said that - if an average joe watches TV for 3 hours a day, would anyone ask him how much money his TV watching was earning him? Spending 3 hours a day on a given project / passion is likely to give almost immeasurably better results in anyone's life, than 3 hours in front of the TV...
Ant Mallett
_"I don't think it's about the possible monetary gain"._
Never said it was. I'm fully cognizant of Keith's motivations for restoring this machine (and the others he restores).
Don't assume the motivation behind a question. Especially in a YT comment section.
In this case, you mistook simple curiosity for something else entirely because you tried to read something in to it that wasn't there.
I should not have had to explain myself to you just for asking Keith a question.
Annoying. :/
you look better with a beard
Keth I have a 20" heavy book I can send you if you want it shows all the parts that go on the lathe just bigger let me know and I'll send it to you if you want
I would love to have it! Please email me and I will send you my mailing address. You can find my email address at the start of my videos on screen when my name pops up.
I can't Bite my Tongue any longer have you learned nothing about you and Hammers...
90% of a mechanics job is knowing what size hammer to grab, and how hard to swing it. ;)
I guess I'm in that ten percent. Do you know why a ball peen hammer has different ends ? one side to put the lumps on and the other to knock them in...
I guess from your facial hair that you've spent all your money on machinery and can no longer afford to buy a razor..lol
Do you people not watch or pay attention to the video? There must be a half dozen comments on here about Keith forgetting to grease the needle bearing. At 8:30 he shows the greasing procedure and explains what and why he is doing it!! How would you miss that??!!.