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WHY Is Judges 19 So MESSED UP?! [A Levite and His Concubine]
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- Let's recap this Bible story: Judges 19 is the story of a Levite and his concubine. Biblical critics often highlight the mistreatment of women in this story. It's even been called one of the "texts of terror". In this video we take a look at what's really going on and explain this crazy and messed up tale from the book of Judges.
IMPORTANT NOTE: It should be noted that the Levite takes his concubine home before cutting her up (this is not stated directly in the video). It's not clear in the Hebrew if she was alive when he did so.
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Further Reading:
Graetz, N. (2013) The Concubine of Gibeah.
Schneider, T. J. (2016). Berit Olam: Judges
M. Anstey (2019) Scripture and moral reasoning
Webb, B. G. (2012). The Book of Judges
Butler, T. C. (2009). Judges
C. Mafana (2013) Judges 19
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One important note, the Levite took her home before cutting her up (this wasn't directly stated in the video). It's not clear in Hebrew if she was alive when he did so.
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Another note is that at verse 29 of Judges 19. It says he went home then cut her up. Meaning he returned to the hill country of Ephraim before he dismembered her. Don’t know why you tried to make it seem as if she might’ve been alive. But you know what you’re doing and you’ll pay
Thanks for the feedback. Here's a bit more context: The narrator simply says that she did not answer. Whether she was alive or dead is left unstated. This is independent of where she was taken to be cut up. This has been picked up by several commentators, including evangelical Barry G. Webb in his commentary on Judges (Webb, 2012, p. 469). The Levite states in the following chapter that she was dead, but he has already altered the account in two ways and so his words may not be trustworthy.
heh heh. i see why this might make a person atheist.
@@TabletsAndTemples The Levite did not alter the account. The mob wanted to kill him but instead took his concubine and ravished her in a way that caused her eventual death. Why bring in doubt for no good reason. Are you a naughty atheist?
@@roobaba5415 numerous scholars have pointed out the ways in which the Levite subtly alters the account. Sources are in the description.
In addition there's also a whole peer reviewed article dedicated to the subject called "Why the Levite Lied?" By E. Tracy.
I literally just read this and as soon as I was done I looked up an explanation on youtube to see if I wasn't reading this properly. So sad how humans act when they don't have guidance from God.
Glad it helped. Yeah pretty crazy story.
Sameee i was reading it but then i thought i didn't concentrate so came up for explanation and here is the answer.
Oh, you read it properly alright.
@@javiermontoya6849 yea loll
I DID THE EXACT SAME THING
Sounds to me the husband, A Levite, did not get his concubine back cause he loved her, but was a controlling man who then threw her away like trash to save himself and punish her.
Yea. No wonder the woman left her at first
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Its prophetic, the daughter is the torah and the concubine is the gospel, the gospel is then divided and given to all faiths. The concubine was "unfaithful" in that its early translations are false. Its then taken by experts, mocked or mythologised and returned. So the spirit, seperates its parts, until the wise can assemble it in its true translation. "Speak Up".
The concubine The Bible say's was unfaithfull. It didn't say she was unfaithfull to the levite her partner with other men. She was unfaithfull just by running away to hide in her father's house. This is where the women in this case. Are so quick to judge the levite. As an male SOB. You have to read it in the context of the specific details of this particular situation. The concubine ranned away from her partner without any apparent reasons. That's where she was unfaithfull at him. That's the detail you have to focus on. Then to make this situation more clearer. The very own men of Israel didn't stone the man who was a levite. And didn't critize the man for cutting his concubine into pieces. But instead they said. Look at this thing. This has never happened before since the days the hebrew children came out of Egypt. Therefore take this particular situation and WHAT ? Take heed , and consider.
The fact that the concubine ranned away to her father's House defrauding her partner's companionship of living with her in his and her House. She didn't respect her companionship with her partner. She ranned away in the likes of a young immature spoiled brat to hide in her father's house. To look for her father"s sympathy. That's is the unfaithfull act the concubine is guilty of. The cutting her in pieces is her own fault. She owns it all by herself. The levite went to see her to try to convince her to come back home. In a soft manner not angry or antagonizing. Which by the way. He had all the rights to be mad at her. But because the concubine first had spoken to convince her father when she reached his house to let her stay there for some bs reason. The father tried to calm the levite to try and relax his tensions from creating a homicide. That's why the father insisted on having him stay 3 Days one after the other. He knew her daughter had screwed up big time. But in the end. The end result for her running away from her agreement with her partner. Caused her to be violated by other men. To the point that the levite had to do what had to be done. Notice another detail. God Jehovah did not curse or brought judgement on this man levite. Consider that one other fact alsó.
I think the father tried to keep him there as a way to protect his daughter because if she traveled that far alone to get away from him he was probably already doing some messed up stuff. And he knew he would not get away with it in front of her father. The father probably hoped something would happen to him at a party, getting drunk and loose lipped.
That's not a bad theory. And in it's ambiguity it's the kind of thing the text invites the reader to imagine.
@@TabletsAndTemples sites.stedwards.edu/pangaea/judges-19-the-story-of-the-unnamed-woman/ "The story of the concubine in Judges 19 is an example of value lost in translation. The word concubine is often associated with sexually explicit relationships. However, in some cultures like my own, concubine can represent a lower status wife who has not received a bride price." He just wanted the money..
But what is most interesting he is riding a donkey and the murder is alot like Set's murder of Osiris by cutting up the body in to pieces, 12 for the Levite and 14 for Set, who is during the Late Period of Egypt depicted as a donkey or as having a donkey's head > “Nothing like this has been done or seen from the day the Israelites came up from the land of Egypt to this day. Take note of it, and state what you propose to do.”
Wow. This is deep. I kniw people in situations like these.
But the problem was, she cheated on the man. I'm not confusing what the men did... But he didn't mention that part. Also, the man did not tell a lie.
@@maranatasdaministry6552 Women, especially concubines were considered mere possessions and her wanting out of the relationship means she was being unfaithful. The Samaritan doesn't get any consequences for throwing her to the mob or killing her, any more than if he killed a sheep he owned. The Bible has many such stories but has an army of preachers to defend it and spin them as parables.
I love reading the Old Testament. Game of Thrones has nothing on this savagery.
For real...
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@@poweroftruth9258 what Romans actually says If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised👈🏻 Him from the dead, you will be saved
@@poweroftruth9258 Jesus sits at right hand of GOD in heaven it’s important you know the importance of THE TWO
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@@deuteronomy6411 amen brother
I once tried to read through the whole Bible, beginning to end. After making it through Leviticus, I was stopped by all the injustices of Judges. This video has helped me understand more why these stories may have been written. See something, say something. These stories are still difficult to read, but now there may come a time when I can continue and move on.
Totally, Judges is a tough book. But Biblical narrative doesn't endorse every action. Glad you were able to take something away. Thanks for watching Rebecca.
God’s word doesn’t pull punches. It shows the goodness of God but also the potential of unrestrained evil from the human heart.
Judges is basically God giving the people what they want… you want a earthly king to tell you what to do here you go… we know that God raises up kings and removes them as a blessing or a curse on the people. This is as relevant today as it was then. Remember nothing new under the sun! Those wicked people, still got em. I think the story details is a metaphor for the priesthood (Levi) or “Religion”, think Pharisees,Talmud etc… I’m thinking the daughter represents Israel. This is my take of course I could be way off
once i actually sat down and read it, i became an agnostic.
They are difficult to read. But I see them as stories that accurately reflect human behavior.
That man was a cruel man. Why did he bother going after her??? Poor concubine.
she should have stayed home.
@@Darkness-ie2yl maybe she felt unsafe there
Firstly Levite knows the God commandments given to israel if wife do illegal affair or sex with other man should be punishable or divorce. But what he did he again tried to get his wife to live with him. Pls read judges 19 th chapter from 1.
This story always really bothered me when reading through the Old Testament...so much so that it made continuing to read it really challenging because it’s incredibly depressing and seems to offer no resolution/prescription to life...appreciate you breaking down the topic down.
Yeah a lot of the stories in Judges are quite challenging. In part because the style of Hebrew writing means that the narrator rarely gives the reader a moral judgement like we're used to in modern novels.
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching and joining in the discussion.
The good king is supposed to be God, or Jesus. Kings were never an answer, but the kingdom of God is among his people when they accept him.
This is not a break down of the story... You should keep on reading, there's more to the story.
There is definitely no hero in this story! For sure...
I appreciate what you brought out of this!! Consider and speak up...
1) A Concubine is a wife married without the husband paying the Bride-Price. Remember the Israelites lived in an arranged marriage system. Concubine wives were viewed as lesser second class wives due to this distinction. It's of note that the MS text shows the concubine as an adulterer, but this detail is absent from the LXX and from Josephus, so it's likely an addition to the text used by some commentators to try and say that "this woman deserved what happened to her anyway because she was a sinner". Indeed there are rabbinical and commentator explanations that go down this road. But it's unfounded.
2) In times of crisis, the family member who held the inheritance was viewed as the most important to protect. If this was Jacobs family, then Judah and Joseph would be the most valuable. In Lots family, he had no Male sons, so it was Lot who was viewed as the most valuable, and this is seen in the next account where his two daughters (seemingly unphased by Lot offering them to the mob, which the Angels prevented) try to raise up a Male offspring for their father, since their mother had died. And in the Levites small family, it was the Levite. If the one holding the inheritance died, then the inheritance was lost. This is why in Ruth we have the brother in law marriage system for Elimelechs inheritance. This is why Abraham presumed his inheritance would go to one of his servants Eliezer (Gen 15:2). In a society where inheritance is valued so highly, you are going to get fear-based responses where people value their inheritance over human life. This is a bi-product of the time they lived in. It doesn't make it right, but that's how it was.
3) Judges 20:5 & 6 indicates she was already dead when he cut her up.
4) Contextually, this story takes place before the first oppression. This was one of the dominos that lead to God abandoning them to Cushan Rishathain. On order you have:
• The Second Conquest of the land. Some tribes make covenants with the Canaanites, which involves intermarriage.
• The weeping at Bochim due to this.
• The Danites conquer their portion but then engage in Idolatry
• The Sex Crime at Gibeah
• The Benjaminite Civil War
• The Kidnapping Crime at Shiloh
• Israel serves the Baals and the Sacred Poles.
• God gives them Into Cushans hand.
So this account really is the latest in a gradual increase of badness that would lead to God abandoning them. All the leadership decisions during this period get gradually worse as the ones that knew God died and the ones that didn't took their place among the twelve elders.
The point of this passage, is that Israel gets into a Civil War due to violence against a woman, but then ends up hypocritically doing the very thing that got them into the mess in the first place at Shiloh: More violence against women.
😂 God can sometimes reveal a very ironic side to history that it’s almost comical when you put the pieces together.
It seems that every evil thing that happens in the Bible can be traced back to violence, especially violence against women. Starting with Adam and Eve, Adam throws the blame on her when they both consented to sharing the fruit. Eve is warned by God that her husband (and perhaps, depending on your interpretation, all womankind after her) is going to suffer at the hands of male cruelty, violence, and control.
Abraham assaults his own slave (Hagar) to use her as an incubator for the sterile wife, Sarah. He then tosses her out because of Sarah's jealousy and control issues.
Esther is forced to submit to a ruthless king who has already oppressed her people and made his wife so miserable that the Queen Vashti leaves and takes other women with her to live independently, prompting the king to inspire more ruthless misogyny among his subjects.
The story of the Levite and his influence over the death of his concubine and resulting civil war.
King David assaulting Bathsheba.
King David's son assaulting his own daughter, and his failure to protect or control any of his children, resulting in more wars.
And it goes on
Thanks for your comments.
I was watching this today and studying the word concubine. Your context made sense. I was also thinking about the fact that the Tabernacle was made with the outside court, the inner court and the holiest of holies. The outside court had no protection from the elements. And I believe this is where Jesus's comment saying there is the 30, 60 and 100 fold pictures somewhat in this story and understanding. There is the Christian who gives his heart to the Lord but never enters into a deep fellowship and this would be the 30 Christian. Then the inner court where the lamp, the showbread and the altar of incense represents the closer walk with God in prayer, reading the word of God and feasting at his table. The holiest of holies means you are completely willing to be obedient to whatever that Holy calling of God would require you. I think this is a picture of the bride of Christ.
There is a teaching that whatever the parents taught the children normally adhere to. The teaching says that the third generation usually is lost from the grandparents teaching. I think this is also an example of the 30, 60 & 100 fold example.
When David sinned against Uriah and took Bathsheba God's profit told David that what he had done in private would be exposed to the nation. When he left his throne to run from Absalom he left the concubines to attend to the palace. Absalom set a tent in plane sight for all to see that he was going into the concubines and become vile in his father's side by taking his property.
We are told that there were 10 virgins and five werewives and five were foolish. They are all of the kingdom but five chose to keep that close relationship with the bridegroom in keeping the oil. They would not sell the oil to the five foolish because our walks are individual and we must keep our lamps burning by being close to the Word to hear the anointing of the Holy Spirit. To me this is a picture of those concubines that become compromised by a false Christ - the Antichrist. Jesus told the disciples not to be deceived because there would be many that came proclaiming that they were the Messiah.
The story in Judges 19 appears to me to be a prototype of both the story of
David's concubines being left to the villainous plans of Absalom and the five foolish virgins. It is like the outer court having no covering and these concubines did not get to go with David nor did the five foolish virgins.
I am a novice in the Word of God but this is a picture of what I see.
When Jesus was crucified those that cried out for His crucifixion said let His blood be up on us and our children's children. The Israeli Nation as a whole have been persecuted for 2400 to 2500 years. God's beautiful blessing to make them a nation again, something that had never happened before is sweet to my soul.
Hamas is a picture of Hamon in the book of Esther. Both desire to eradicate Israel. God has allowed Israel now to take back what the enemy is stealing. Esther was a queen she is one of the five wise in the kingdom.
Thank God there are still the people of God who will intercede for God's vindication of Israel.
The concubine of Judges 19 is a terrible depiction of Israel leaving God and God having to leave Israel to their own fate. The wrath of God is not what we want for our lives. He is justified when we are out of sync of the blood of Jesus yet He has supplied mercy through the sacrifice of Jesus.
He says now, whosoever will let him come.
@@sherryming6000Everything was amazing of what you said until you say modern day Isreal is Biblical Isreal. Hamas = ancient Greece and pretty soon Islam will completely destroy lukewarm Persia (modern Christianity) in the west.
I dont agree with Islam but modern day Jews who reject the Messiah need to repent and accept Jesus as lord
This story is one of the disturbing ones that linger in my mind, and I don't feel closure nor justice from it.
I remember when I read this for the first time, I was so outraged by it that I threw my bible.
Which is saying a lot, I always treated the bible as sacred (I even always made sure I never laid it upside down, I treated it with full respect).
But the injustices in it (and the way ppl either justified those injustices, or don't have an explanation for them, or what have you) were continually getting to me through the years, that by the time I read Judges 19, I actually threw my bible.
You don't feel closure or justice from this story, b/c there isn't any. You're not alone.
The things in the story "cannot" be justified, they are horrific, and they are Wrong.
Period.
I don't know what mortifies me more, this story, or how nonchalantly ppl talk about it.
When my mom told me to read this a few years ago I was distraught by it. Thanks for the insight and explanation.
Glad it was helpful!
What explanation?? That a guy let's his girlfriend get gang raped and then chops her up into small parts??
@@andg_rodg_4_real710 *_Everyone did what was right in their own eyes_* This is the theme throughout Judges. Once a society gets to this level you’re doomed. This is why God kept letting Israel become enslaved and oppressed.
@@Dexion845 where does it say any of what u just said, in the bible?? We're allowed to interpret things however we want now??
Key things here…
Levite… (Levi… priesthood) religion
Daughter… as a concubine not wife is interesting-, played the harlot…might represent Israel; daughter of Zion…
Father in law- Father God?
Also when they were in town and the guy took them in the mob at night that whole bit sounded very much like Genesis story of the evacuation of Lot and his family out of Sodom and Gomorrah
Thank you Jesus. Thanks for helping me make sense of such a depraved and horrific story
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How????🤢🤮
This helps. I have listened to the word of God for many years and every time I come up to this chapter it leaves me speechless and somewhat confused thank you for sharing and making it a little more clearer.
The good king is supposed to be God, or Jesus. Kings were never an answer, but the kingdom of God is among his people when they accept him.
I really love the story of The Levite and His Concubine as it certainly contain a lot of moral lesson but I just don't know how to start to tell this story to my 5 year old kid.
"Once upon a time, there was a man named the Levite, and he had a special friend who lived with him, sort of like a princess but not quite. Sometimes they didn't get along, so she went back to her dad's house.
The Levite missed her very much, so he decided to go get her back. They traveled together, but one night, they had to stay in a town where nobody wanted to be kind to them. Some very bad men came and wanted to hurt the Levite. He was scared, so he pushed the lady out to them.
The bad men did very mean things to her all night, and in the morning, she was very hurt. The Levite was so sad and angry. He took her home, but she was already gone. He was so upset that he cut her into pieces and sent them to different places.
People were shocked and very sad. They wanted to make things right. It made the people fight because the town where the bad men were from didn't want to give them up.
In the end, the bad men were punished, but it was a very sad story about how some people can be very mean, and how love can sometimes turn into very bad things."
Is this good?
You're not supposed to tell this gory story to 5 year olds. 😅 Wait till your child is around 13 so he or she can process it better. You can get your child started on simple stories like that of Jonah, Moses, Jesus, etc.
A lot of the accounts in book of Judges are horrible :( But these accounts are written for us as warnings and reproof, to not make the same mistakes that they made. But throughout history incidents like this has happened again... May we all become more like Jesus, to discern, and not to be overcome by all the evil, but overcoming it with good 🙏
This reminds me of Proverbs 3:7,
"Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the LORD and shun evil."
This just means we do what seems right to us. We are all sinners and we need God in our lives. Jesus is the only truth, the way and the life.
Just finished reading the chapter and was need of an explanation and you explained it really well. Thank you!
So good, that's exactly why I made it! Thanks so much for watching.
I think you did well on explaining this to the younger crowd. Great job God bless
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Thank you kindly. That is the aim that these videos suitably explain these tough topics in a way that is easy to understand.
God bless. 😂 😂 😂 Did you even listen to the video.
Delage Studio - WOW, that was very helpful. God previously gave me a Word how men treat their wife like a concubine. Abba commands the opposite. In Ephesians, 5X He says, love your wife yet, most preach on the 1 mention of, wives submit. Also, men are told their prayers will NOT be heard if they are harsh to their wife who is the weaker vessel. This evil husband is an example of how a man THINKS, no one sees his evil ways. God Almighty does and those who hide their sins aught to be very afraid. God is NOT MOCKED without consequences. Also, the Lord tells men when getting married: to leave their family & cleave to their wife. Abba does not tell the wife to leave & cleave. The reason? In case her husband begins to treat her cruelly she can & should run to her parents home for safety. Oh, but never will you hear a preacher tell men this. They wrongly instruct both to leave & cleave - to the woman's detriment!
Glad you found it helpful Ruth! Thank you so much for watching and engaging with the content.
Good points!
Moral of the story? *_Stay in the Fathers house_* !!! And life you’ll be blessed and protected from the devices of this wicked world…
But he decided to leave. 😓
😂 Lesson for me should’ve just divorced the cowardly man. He was quite frankly a no good narcissist that’s why she ran away from home
@@imari9997 Judges 19:2 says she committed adultery, which was a sin punishable by death in those days... so that's why she was given to the men. The man was no coward, else he would not have gone looking for her at her father's house.
@@colinpierre3441and by him knowing all this he still threw her out there to get raped. Not you using “adultty” as an excuse. If he cared so much about her committing “adultry” which is a sin then he should’ve cared so much to start praying about the situation before throwing her carelessly into the crowd. He was a selfish man and probably a narcissist, that’s why she most likely left him in the beginning. Plus men were also supposed to protect their wives and children back then so why he couldn’t sacrifice himself?
@@keepingupwtae1127 "he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me" (Matthew 10:37), same goes for a man's wife. Men would protect their family as long their family was obedient to God... what his wife did was break a clearly defined law and she was fortunate not to die sooner. There was a even a law that a son could be killed if he was disobedient to his parents (Deuteronomy 21:18-21). Truth be told, if the world was like this now it would be peaceful out of fear. These things can be avoided if we love God, put him first in our lives and remember that he created us.
@@colinpierre3441 Matthew 10:37 does not apply to the situation AT ALL. I can’t believe you are defending him.😧 Nowhere in Judges was the Levite instructed by GOD himself to sacrifice his concubine. I think that was the point of Judges. People acting without God’s guidance but acting based on what they think is right and not by what the Lord thinks. It was clear in Judges that these people had no king , no leader , no guide so their hearts were far from God. Quite scary of you to compare that. Please don’t compare this to an Abraham and Issac situation! Also the man LIED about the entire situation in the next segment… may I add he also broke the 6th commandment along with many others from Judges! These people lived during a time without a God Given leader and ruler, that said enough. ” In those days Israel had no king; all the people did whatever seemed right in their own eyes.“
(Judges 21:18 NLT)
You said it man. This is a glimpse of what the tribulation will be like when the Church is gone and every man can do whatever they want without restraint. But there is no injustice in God’s Kingdom. Hallelujah.
I just read it and after finishing it went straight to yt to find an explanation cause it was very ... unusual .
This was a very immoral time in Israel. There was also another story in the Bible where some pagan thought God (Yahweh) was some other false god and promised to sacrifice the first person he saw with it as thanks to what God did for him (as if God would accept something so horrible). He then sacrificed her own daughter. 😡
*_Everyone does what is right in their own eyes_*
Once society gets to this level we’re doomed.
That's actually the subject of our next video. Out late August
This story stressed me out so bad I had to read it five times and look it up. What the heck is really going on??
The good king is supposed to be God, or Jesus. Kings were never an answer, but the kingdom of God is among his people when they accept him.
my question is why was there a horny mob In the first place lol
Reminds me of modern day sex trafficking. The concubine “belonged” to the Levite to use as he pleased. She tried to run away and he got her back but not out of love or care. Therefore she being an object to him, was disposable and he used her to save himself.
Apparently all women were disposable, even daughters
Thank you. This was such a good video. You went over a lot of important details from the chapter, and made it more understandable. Thanks for covering the chapter. Amen 🙏
Amazing work once again! You have one of the most underrated theology channels on youtube. Keep the good content coming!
Thanks friend! I've definitely keep it up while I can! Thanks for your support.
I read an adventist review, this story is like a reflection story in the times of Jesus crucifixion, like the concubine who just fell half dead at the threshold, Jesus was also tortured by the mobs without anyone helping Him, and those people who professed to loved Jesus forsake him just like the Levite. It just says that we are like that Levite man giving no sympathy, saying to Jesus after he died for us. get up and go.
That makes ALOT of sense thanks for the explanation I'm just so confused at it 😐
The good king is supposed to be God, or Jesus. Kings were never an answer, but the kingdom of God is among his people when they accept him.
God bless the SDA church
Thank you for making the story slightly more bearable. I always thought it's depressing, disgusting and disturbing beyond words. The lying coward who asked for "justice" suddenly has his despicable actions multiplied exponentially all throughout Israel. Apparently no one valued women, and God let them destroy each other by the tens of thousands. Not sure what we're supposed to get out of the horrible tale, except that man-made solutions to man-made problems are a BAD idea.
I now REALIZE that God is so GOOD, LOVING, MERCIFUL and so PATIENT with the Israelites. But the Israelites in the Old Testament was just so FULL of WICKEDNESS.
Pretty solid video. One thing, for the sake of clarification, is that the passage actually never specifies which of the two men (the levite or the man of that city) seized the concubine and mad her go out to the "worthless fellows" of the city.
Thanks for watching! The Hebrew uses the possessive "his concubine," so the man in question was definately the Levite.
@@TabletsAndTemples Gotcha. That makes sense. Thanks!
The good king is supposed to be God, or Jesus. Kings were never an answer, but the kingdom of God is among his people when they accept him.
Wow so much madness from all sides. Thank God for His mercy towards us
Have read the passage before and was so intriguing in first sense, but didn't notice the alterations of story by the man. Well spoken.. God bless sir
Interesting isn't it!
I highly recommend a book, Rising Moon, which connects the anarchy at the end of Judges to the book of Ruth and the subsequent era of kingship. It's written from a rabbinic perspective but it addresses a lot of the literary issues raised in the video.
I just finished reading that I had to research what in the world I just read.
Me too.
@@linfordmuliro5504 there's more after that.. There's this one story in Samuel also.. Yikes..
This is one of the most morally repugnant stories of all times...
It’s a lesson for our world today! EVERYONE did what they thought was right in THEIR owns eyes! Before that Micah melts down his metals into idols and hires a Levite to be priest of his family!
Oh!!!!! I just read this in my Bible and just couldn't believe my eyes. Thank you for helping me to understand. But the kicker for me was that the man was a LEVITE! God's identified original priests!
In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
Judges 21:25
I had to emotionally recover from Judges
True true
Loved this video. Glad I found the channel.
The words popping up on screen as you're talking was strange and a little jarring lol.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback. Welcome to the channel
Very messed up! I love the animations though. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
This is great, I almost left the faith over this story.
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Same!
Really nice way of presenting. I enjoyed the visuals to better understand and remember the story.
I appreciate you taking the time to watch
its s typical story of a wicked man - the daughter ran away to her father because she was abused at home - the son comes to the father pretends to be all sweet and good - the father knows what is going on so he hopes that if the man can stay a little longer and join in the festivities and be merry he would kindred some love for the girl again - the man realizes by the last day that the father in-law is trying to convince him to love his daughter gets up and leaves - he knows he is wicked so they get to the wicked town and the mob was actually after the wicked man - he throw's the girl out is cold towards her - now she dies - who does he blame for her death - its now a murder case - he gets the whole tripe of all the Israelites to join in and he blames Benjamins tribe for the death this creates a war between the tribes - and the mythical promise that no tribe of Israel will never again give their daughters to the tribe of Benjamin willingly because their daughters would die - but in reality its not Benjamin's fault for her death - you as the reader can know this - but the person at the time when it happened had to still discern the guilty person - in society all through out the ages we still find this problem today - men treat women wickedly - domestic violence is a problem - it all comes back to - the typical way a man lies behaves and treats his people - also - a concubine was a woman who has not yet given children - you are married to her but only seen as a wife when there are children - you were married as a concubine and produced offspring and e=became the highest in the house by having children - psychotically its still a mission today for many people they get married - and the first thing people try for is a baby - woman do not feel completely accomplished in a marriage relationship unless there is a baby involved - we see this phenomena with Sarah and Hagar - when sarah in her old age still could not have a child she gave her slave to her husband - so her husband begets a chikld with Hagar - and Hagar all of a sudden looks down on sarah - (0
sarah is the CAPITAL letter of the Household - but all of a sudden the slave - is "allowed" in a way to look down on Sarah - sarah disaproves - even though it is her trusted slave or bond woman - whatever - she does not have the authority to send her away anymore - so sarah complains to her husband and tells her husband only when she gets pregnant eventually that he must send haggai away - becuase her child can not inherit the same as the other child - so its - about what power a baby " entitles" so if this slave was still under her service - she could easily have said go away with your child- but she could not - she then tells her husband to tell the slave to leave - but she only also does so when she gives birth to her child promised from God - so its not a plot twist or a twisted naritive its to understand the whole meaning of why a concubine and why a wife - in history a woman who could bare children were seen as a "special treatment" by many - especially in egypt - it seems wierd to society now because we are largely populated in a place with drs hospitals and medicine - in those days there was nothing like this available -
When I was trying to read the Bible all the way through a few years ago (for the first time), this story really troubled me. Funny enough, it was after this that I watched Game of Thrones, because I thought what could be worse than this story.
I so enjoyed this storytelling! Excellent job - I always forget how wild this passage is in scripture. And I love the animation. This story is creazy, but your explaining was so well done. new sub.
I'm so glad! Great to have you on board!
When I first read this story, I was absolutely shocked. I knew the connection with Sodom and Gomorrah but still, like anyone, had a hard time with its existence. I landed in a similar place as your conclusion. It is supposed to shock us and spur us to action, but specifically God's justice not our own like the tribe of Benjamin. Well done!
Thanks for watching and some good thoughts!
Stop that foolishness, this is proof the Bible is foolishness.
@@0397rb This is proof that we need to listen to the Bible because it speaks of what can go terribly wrong as in the book of Judges where relativism has led to abomination and the most abject violence. Relativism as in today's world where there is no truth, but your truth is as good as my truth: "in those days there was no king in Israel, everyone did what was right in their own eyes."
@@bhocatbho we don't need any Bible, it's full or errors, copied stories and false prophecies. Everything in the Bible existed 1000+ years before any Israel.. There is no proof of any king of Israel.. Also look through any time period and any place on Earth people will always do what they want to do. Good or bad.. No bible or gods needed, no do any gods or Bible give anyone morals or makes them do good
I literally just read this and was disgusted but I discussed it with my friend and she sent this to me. It’s sooo messed uppppo
My question is: how the old man allow the mobs to take away his OWN daughter and the concubine? Why not man?
Yes you are correct, that aspect is very disturbing. But that's kind of the point. A lot of the stories in Judges highlight how absurd and self-serving people can be when there was no king in Israel.
Is history. Not a story but yes, very gruesome.
Thank you for that good explanation. Appreciated it. 😊
I click on your videos so fast! I'm watching now
Thanks mate! I know you've been watching since the beginning. Would love to know what you think.
@@TabletsAndTemples oh it was a great video and amazingly well edited as always... It's a very interesting story, kind of horrifying really. But you did a great job of explaining its purpose, which I never would have been able to figure out... That's something I love about the bible. There's so many layers, there's wisdom for almost any situation/hardship/struggle...
It can just be difficult to understand the the messages sometimes. So, your videos are a great way to learn.
@@Jason-fp7vi yeah it is an often overlooked passage. And you're right there are so many layers of meaning. Thanks for your support as always!
Blessing
Thank you very much for this video I appreciate it
I recently came upon this story by chance . Thanks for a clear explanation .
You're most welcome
Such a great video! You're doing a great job with this channel! The quality is awesome and the videos are interesting and fun!! I can definitely say I wouldn't be happy with my future husband at all if he gave me to a mob. Lol
Glad you enjoy it! Yeah it's certainly a tough story to read.
What’s even worse is that several translations use the phrase “young woman” or “girl.” Imagine if this was a teenager who went through this (or younger). At least the perpetrating tribe got whooped for this.
Also I Was Thinking , Because God Kept Sending Them a Judge To Teach Them Of The Lord And To Help Them They Kept Rebelling And Worshipping Others , God Gives Free Will To Obedience So He Simply Gave Them What They Wanted Which They Didnt Choose Him They Choose False Gods Who Couldn’t Help Them And They Wanted To Do Their Own Thing So Look How It Turned Out For Them . He Still Was Merciful In Their Rebellion Against Him
Interesting point about speaking up. Thank you for the video.
Glad you liked it!
Thank you, brother, very well structured and explained presentation
This is the part when they tell you "you are taking the story out of context" which begs the question what is the possible context for such a fucked up story?
It's a good question. The book of judges is pretty much non stop messed up stories. Some scholars see it as ancient political literature used to justify Israel having a monarch, something like "look how bad society would be if we didn't have a king."
I personally think many of the stories in Judges would have served as warnings, examples to be avoided, kind of like how those disturbing brothers Grimm tales were used in Germany.
Thanks for explaining ❤❤
Its also important to note that they had come across another city before the destination city. He refused to stay in said city because it was not a city of his brethren. He chose to instead stay in a jewish city because he didnt trust any who were not of the 12 tribes.
Please keep making these videos!! Some of the best I've ever seen! It was both educational and informational!!
I meant to say educational and entertaining !!! Lol.
Thanks so much! What a lovely compliment. With the support of people like yourself engaging with the videos and sharing them around we'll certainly be able to!
You summarize it up well. My Hero would be Gideon at least. But i was confused towards chapter 19 with the concubine and all... no names, civil war, what a mess. Well i have a better understanding now. Ty, God Bless!
This video is such a blessing. I just read this chapter and was wondering all that was explained in this video, so thank you very much for such a great explanation!
It really shows how Israel was lost in these times..
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You have an amazing user name.
@@TabletsAndTemples thanks 😅
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*Judges **1:19** And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.*
If the Lord is Almighty and the creator of all things then why couldn't he drive out the inhabitants of the valley? I've always wondered 🤔
Great question. The Lord was also with Joseph in Potiphars house and gave him success, but it didn't prevent him from being thrown in prison.
From a narrative perspective it's a way of indicating that God is with the character through the successes and failures.
It really was horrible what happened to the woman an example, of not how to act.
Thanks for sharing your insights into this story. It’s a doozy, that’s for sure!!
Just one little comment though; the Levite put the concubine on his donkey, went to his home and cut her up there - not at the crime scene. I know it might seem like nitpicking but I do like to see as much accuracy as possible when unpacking biblical events!!
You're right, we didn't mean to imply that with our phrasing but I can see how it reads that way. We've edited out a small section of the video on TH-cam that should take away that implication (it will switch over in a few hours).
Interesting illustration of uniqueness with eggs
The real reason of why there are so many messed up cases is because God wanted to show that is what happens when people chooses to live distant to God and disobey him and his commandments,when people negate Christ, and current society is going to that path again, starting by not believing in God and the bible as his absolute truth and word....
Weird, im a devout anti-theist and i didnt happen to rape or cut women in half. Actually i even prevented a christian from abusing a woman because she was not "modest". But sure, "without god, there is no morality" 👍🏻
@@daksfax8419God says even preachers and those who calls him Lord will be shunned away on the day of judgement. God sees the heart, not the label.
I remembered the Levite's action, maybe rather lack of, was out of cowardice and he cut his wife to pieces to curse the 12 tribes for allowing the foul act to happen, and go unpunished. I don't remember where I heard it or what version I read it from but the moral is the same I suppose if less redeeming.
I love the bible but this part of judges makes me so upset. I don't understand so I stay away, but I know we need ALL of the Word. God is so good. I just struggle with and hide from this
Man must know and love his Father.
You cannot truely appreciate health if you dont understand what it really feels like to be sick.
Long story short, God doesnt support such attrocities, but allows us to see how Wicked human kind can be under no leadership from the lords spirit. We are later brought to see in ruth ,how God had planned to restore the kingdom and bring order back to His people.
Women are valuable, but to see how there values can be devalued helps me understand even more why we need God in our relationships too, not barbaric practice of wickedmen.
I really don’t know this before now
I’ve learnt. Thanks for sharing
It certainly is not a popular Bible story. Glad you found it helpful.
🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️I'm reading the bible and just like just a minute ago came up on it and j had too get more answers behind this horror....
Those men were trying to "know him carnally" and threatened to kill him and the old man. The women were sacrificed to the mob and they "knew them carnally" to death. She died on the way back to his place before she was cut up.
yeah i don't know how he missed that and I dont think it was a innocent accident. All this dudes videos have the same angle thats suspect though dont you think? Like look at these titles? Click baity sure but the whole premise it seems is to poke holes and turn people off to the bible under the cover of being pro bible. Im not buying it.
This particular Levite was doing what was "right in his own eyes" instead of following "the book of the law"
It is accounts like these liberal infidels will use to point out how pornographic and barbaric the Bible is... But have you noticed that God is not connected AT ALL with this mess, in any shape or form. Nobody in the story was following the Bible.
The Bible records sins like this because it tells history "as it is" and things "as they are" in reality; it never sugercoats sin, shellacs it, veneers it, adorns it, decorates it, or makes it artistic or appealing. It tells you what is done and then it tells you what happens because the thing was done.
Why did Lot in Genesis 19:7-8 offer his daughters to be violated instead of protecting them when some people wanted to violate the angels? Isn't he supposed to be a moral person? He acts like his daughters are mere disposable items and not living individuals
Good work guys
Thank you
Enjoyed the animation
They had no king then benignities allowed this wicked people in their land. This would eventually lead to all gods tribe to be one again. By gods law she cheated and was supposed to be killed but she was used to bring the 12 tribes together
I was reading and in my mind I was like then he saved her and have many.... ⚠️😌🤦🏽♂️
I am living Christianity after ready this story.
This is why the Authorized Holy Bible The Truth. It tells the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly uncut and uncensored. And it all goes back to this:
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Genesis 2:16-17 (KJV)
The sons of Belial (the Devil - Judges 19:22 ) since the day mankind disobeyed God they have had the seed of the Devil in them. Since Judges 19 mankind have done things waaaaaaay worst than this.
This is why anyone period that is not Born Again then they do not have the seed of God in them and this is why they cannot enter the kingdom of God - John 3:5-7
Repent and Believe the Gospel - Acts 2:38
In the orthodox bible it says "the men made fun of her" as best as i can translate in english. Im confused
hmmm, what translation are you using? I checked an Orthodox Study Bible and it definitely says the men abused her.
Great job,new sub!
Thanks for the sub! Welcome aboard!
Yesss just did this in bible study recently
Pretty crazy huh
Did you drop your Bible and wake up and read more of these foolish stories
Haha. Who suggested that???
Its seems messed up. Thanks I like the way you break it down though
Glad it helped
Yes it's very confusing. I thought that the father in law was the concubine's father in law, meaning she was also married to some other guy when she became this unnamed man's concubine and the father in law was happy because the unnamed guy was higher in status than them. The Bible is horrible with it's pronouns, meaning there are run on sentences talking about multiple people and saying he did this then he responded to him about her and they said he said this to him, etc. You read it and think, wait, who's saying what?
Don’t think the king would have made a difference - God repeatedly emphasised what a mistake royalty was 1 Samuel 8:10-22
Yes you raise a good point. My surface level answer would be that it depends on which part of the Bible. Historically it's clear that some books (or even parts of books due to redactions) are more pro-monarchy than others. It does seem like there are pro-monarchy elements in Judges (even if not throughout the whole book) whereas those parts of Samuel tone that down.
@@TabletsAndTemples Interesting I think you probably know it better than I do. I suspect the pro monarchy versus are actually trying to point to the King of kings
the dominant narrative in the bible is pro-monarchy (even samuel's complaint is undercut by the fact that he was basically the ruler of israel and was trying to pass power down to his corrupt sons). but yes, there are a few anti-monarchy voices. and realistically, civil wars happen under monarchs all the time.
Was it a human king or the more deeper one which would be King Jesus!
Thanks man
I was not taught this at Sunday School.......
Thank you for this explanation
You are welcome!
Chosen they say...
Still wondering why there was no judgement for the Levite and the father of the concubine.
I thought that God did not want the Israelites to have a king like the other nations around them. HE was to be their King. Yet Judges indicates that these things happened because they did not have one. And I thought that the Levites were a holy class of servants of God. Why would that group view women as next to nothing. Does not God in Leviticus clearly indicate that a woman is worth less than a man? I do not see how God is proactive in discouraging this behavior, although I do not believe he condones it.
I've always seen the parallel, how people think these are the "end times" and that society has become so extremely sinful and it was " better" back then.
Not so, as you see in Judges 19
"ain't nothing new under the sun". In the previous chapter you see the tribe of Dan doing idle worship which leads to even worse behavior as we see. People that turn their back to God and decide to do things their way make bad decisions.