Now I know people hate on console but they really should at kbm support for console and just enable "input based matchmaking". That way you don't have to go up against aim assist, if you don't want to.
The first barrier a console player needs to overcome is the sensitivity settings (the whole controller settings overall). You need to tweak so much for you really began to feel it. For me, it was two full seasons to learn, adapt and configure. I miss the old days of M&K support on console, good times.
I played on mouse and keyboard my whole life on a laptop, i have quite the skill and then I got a ps5, got kind of good with the gyro controls but still i wish I could switch to keyboard and mouse on consoles instead of being limited to just the controller
Interesting video. I wonder if the things you brought up is why I gravitate towards the weapons I do as a KbM player. It's surprising that you say movement is better on KbM because I usually hear the opposite from controller players, especially when it comes to turn speed. Maybe I am misunderstanding something.
I reckon u misunderstood the movement comment I made. I was referring that analog movement is much better (controller) but keyboard has a better ability to snap to target and be more precise at close ranges.
Personally, i only play controller with the R357. I can't hit shit to save my life but honestly even when i have matches where i go 3 and 37. Those 3 kills felt so good to get.
Really? I think movement is really hard on controller, maybe Im not used to it, I just started to use controller, I guess I have to use back buttons for jump and crouch, I really dont want to claw..
M11, FCAR, XP, AKM, Famas, All heavy weapons are ok, All melee weapons are equal for both controller and keyboard. That’s it, anything else is gonna take much more effort.
They can be good but much harder to use. If you have good aim and movement then the double barrel is great. The model is always difficult to use but very strong. The heavy shotguns aren’t anything special.
Your comparing an input your comfortable vs one your not and MnK still felt better on a lot of gun. MnK has been and always has advantage over controller if they don’t balance the recoil patterns separately.
@@ELHOMO21 cool thanks. If you have never listened to 80s hard rock in the background of a powershift match...i suggest you try it. Its quite the experience
As a casual player, I switched to controller just because it is easy to lie down on couch and play. With mouse I have to sit straight. Also, when I hold the controller, I feel like I am actually in play mode while I am working 9-5 with mouse and keyboard. So I try to stay away from mouse and keyboard when I am not working :D
Funny when you said high recoil weapon and yours literally didn’t budge at plus everyone knows keyboard allows you to move insanely faster in all directions
In my opinion, there should be non-crossplay matches without aim assist because there is too much light in this game with a cloak and L1H1. The main issue with L1H1 is the recoil, and with aim assist, this problem just disappears
If you need aim assist to even the playing field with mouse, then there is a clear winner. Get rid of aim assist and let the controller players get effed
Depends on your situation. I’ve used controller for over a decade and started out on games like MW2,MW3, Black ops 2. The skill sticks and translates if you keep it in practice
@@ELHOMO21 No, Gyro is mostly for aiming on par with mouse accuracy, but with the benefit of stick for movement and large aiming(with or without flick stick) and triggers and buttons. It truly is the best of both worlds. You should try learning it. Some people who are really good with sticks use it just for fine aiming but others use it for all. Xbox is super behind the curve. There are attachments for Xbox controllers but I’ve also heard the next gen controller will have it. I play on PC with a Dualsense/Kaleid tho.
is it just me but when you lag on controller your controller drifts insanely without you touching any controls???? it fucks me over so much in gameplays. im forced to play mnk most of the time. even tho i main controller in every other game. and its only doing that when i play the finals. in any other game theres no extreme movement and plus my controller is not broken or anything its fine. so idk. just wondering if any one has any idea why its like this. (i do not have stick drift) i play a slow sens and it moves crazily in different directions randomnly.
Now I know people hate on console but they really should at kbm support for console and just enable "input based matchmaking". That way you don't have to go up against aim assist, if you don't want to.
That should be in the FPS for years
Aim assist is so much less toxic than MnK
MnK cheats and is toxic
Remove aim assist, gyro 4 controller 🎉🎉
Might be my favorite comparison between the two. I completely agree with the conclusion too
Glad you enjoyed!🫡
The first barrier a console player needs to overcome is the sensitivity settings (the whole controller settings overall). You need to tweak so much for you really began to feel it. For me, it was two full seasons to learn, adapt and configure. I miss the old days of M&K support on console, good times.
I almost quit The Finals on season one when they removed M&K
It’s very strange that they don’t allow it especially with crossplay enabled
I think for the next season they should add
AR 15 for Meduim
Vector + suppresser for Light
Tommy SM gun for heavy
I think they might change the meta 🙌
I played on mouse and keyboard my whole life on a laptop, i have quite the skill and then I got a ps5, got kind of good with the gyro controls but still i wish I could switch to keyboard and mouse on consoles instead of being limited to just the controller
That’s true especially with cross play you should be allowed
@@ELHOMO21 yeah, specially because not everyone has ability with a controller or can switch to pc
This video is so good. Well made and on point.
I appreciate that 🫡
Interesting video. I wonder if the things you brought up is why I gravitate towards the weapons I do as a KbM player. It's surprising that you say movement is better on KbM because I usually hear the opposite from controller players, especially when it comes to turn speed. Maybe I am misunderstanding something.
I reckon u misunderstood the movement comment I made. I was referring that analog movement is much better (controller) but keyboard has a better ability to snap to target and be more precise at close ranges.
Imagine not playing on arcade stick
You are the best the finals youtuber
That means a lot brother 🫡🤝
@@ELHOMO21 you answering my comment means a lot to, cant wait for the next video
Be on the lookout tomorrow 👀🔥
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great video very well put together
Personally, i only play controller with the R357. I can't hit shit to save my life but honestly even when i have matches where i go 3 and 37. Those 3 kills felt so good to get.
thank you so much for this video sir
Really? I think movement is really hard on controller, maybe Im not used to it, I just started to use controller, I guess I have to use back buttons for jump and crouch, I really dont want to claw..
Absolutely controller movement is so strong when you get it down. The diagonal strafing is completely unique👌
If u use mesh as heavy. Ur movement is very limited on controller. MnK u can turn way faster if an enemy is shooting u in the back.
That’s true, the sensitivity is locked for some reason🤔
bro you are just good no matter what you use,,,,
Hey whats your keybinds for controller? Thinking about trying controller out again for M11
I run default binds.
Do you play controller with your middle finger or index finger on triggers?
Middle on trigger, index on Y, X and right bumper. 2 paddles on the back to jump and crouch
Overall what weapons do you think are best on controller?
M11, FCAR, XP, AKM, Famas, All heavy weapons are ok, All melee weapons are equal for both controller and keyboard. That’s it, anything else is gonna take much more effort.
@@ELHOMO21not lh1?
And LH1 forgot to mention it
@@ELHOMO21are shotgun good on console?
They can be good but much harder to use. If you have good aim and movement then the double barrel is great. The model is always difficult to use but very strong. The heavy shotguns aren’t anything special.
How can people say AA is strong in this game at the moment?
Your comparing an input your comfortable vs one your not and MnK still felt better on a lot of gun. MnK has been and always has advantage over controller if they don’t balance the recoil patterns separately.
I’m comfortable on both. Just have more experience on one.
So you’re saying I should stop using the Model on Xbox then?
Not saying you should stop but just beware that if you have crossplay on, then MNK players will have a huge advantage with that gun
@@ELHOMO21 I don’t think I’ll ever plan to have Crossplay on then lol
Too bad that I can no longer find matches with cross play disabled, even during peak times I have to wait too long. Western Europe on Xbox Series X.
Sooooooo whats your settings?
For controller for Keyboard?
@@ELHOMO21 controller. I play alot of different shooters and i havent been able to nail down good settings on the finals
I’ve made a video just about that topic👌 Here’s the link: th-cam.com/video/zhQTGxUNEK8/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
@@ELHOMO21 cool thanks. If you have never listened to 80s hard rock in the background of a powershift match...i suggest you try it. Its quite the experience
Must try it brother 🤝🧏♂️
As a casual player, I switched to controller just because it is easy to lie down on couch and play. With mouse I have to sit straight. Also, when I hold the controller, I feel like I am actually in play mode while I am working 9-5 with mouse and keyboard. So I try to stay away from mouse and keyboard when I am not working :D
That’s another reason to use it 👍 Much more relaxed
Funny when you said high recoil weapon and yours literally didn’t budge at plus everyone knows keyboard allows you to move insanely faster in all directions
liar its zen
dont tell console player that when u experience the smooth of 90 plus hertz monitor u cant go back
Try 240
@@ELHOMO21 sssshh don't tell the secret
nice AI voice sound almost real for me
Why do you use an AI voice over?
In my opinion, there should be non-crossplay matches without aim assist because there is too much light in this game with a cloak and L1H1. The main issue with L1H1 is the recoil, and with aim assist, this problem just disappears
If you need aim assist to even the playing field with mouse, then there is a clear winner. Get rid of aim assist and let the controller players get effed
Rubbish take
how the fuck can you play a shooter with a damned controller ? it's like playing doom 1 only on keyboard ..... it's insane.
Depends on your situation. I’ve used controller for over a decade and started out on games like MW2,MW3, Black ops 2. The skill sticks and translates if you keep it in practice
Learn gyro, never have to pick between the two 🫡
Isn’t that just a way to 180 fast? Not on Xbox controllers either.
@@ELHOMO21 No, Gyro is mostly for aiming on par with mouse accuracy, but with the benefit of stick for movement and large aiming(with or without flick stick) and triggers and buttons. It truly is the best of both worlds. You should try learning it. Some people who are really good with sticks use it just for fine aiming but others use it for all.
Xbox is super behind the curve. There are attachments for Xbox controllers but I’ve also heard the next gen controller will have it. I play on PC with a Dualsense/Kaleid tho.
Thanks must look into it👍
is it just me but when you lag on controller your controller drifts insanely without you touching any controls???? it fucks me over so much in gameplays. im forced to play mnk most of the time. even tho i main controller in every other game. and its only doing that when i play the finals. in any other game theres no extreme movement and plus my controller is not broken or anything its fine. so idk. just wondering if any one has any idea why its like this. (i do not have stick drift) i play a slow sens and it moves crazily in different directions randomnly.
That would be look acceleration in the settings. You need to disable it.
@@ELHOMO21 ill give it a try, but for now i doubt that's the reason. ill come back and lyk if it works. thanks.
yea that wasnt it thanks for the help tho
No problem I’m not really sure what else it could be but I just know I don’t have that issue.
@@ELHOMO21 none of my friends have the issue either.