You definately should give his one take of To the Hellfire a shot! Will Ramos sounds even better when not overproduced and with too many layers on it! I don't like this song in the original version tbh., BUT his one take blew my mind completely! There I was SHOOKETH ^^
The best part about Will Ramos is he can do these screams perfectly live. His one takes as many others have mentioned is probably the best representation of how good he is. The mixing in the one takes also has his vocals in the foreground instead of blended so you can make out the details better.
The scary thing is most of the stuff is *not* about layers or effect pedals. His one take vocal performance of this song is breathtaking exactly for that reason - he just jumps all over the map of distorted vocals like it was Sunday picnic in a park.
Yep. The layering and pedalling are just to add some depth to the sound in the studio, but when all is said and done, a human still had to make these noises. And he does.
I just saw Lorna Shore live last week and I can confirm that Will Ramos is a demon-alien hybrid. He doesn't sound appreciably different on stage than he does in the studio recordings, aside from some of the multi-tracking being missing. He tended to go towards the highs/mids rather than the lows. I have to wonder though if that was due to him being more comfortable there or if it was to make sure that his melody could cut through the wall of sound from the rest of the band. In any case, there's no denying that dude's talents. Also, their breakdowns were so intense that I could feel them rumbling my innards.
Rumbling my Innards is my new metal band 😂 that’s interesting that he went for the highs and mids. The low must be slightly more tricky to maintain perhaps? Thanks for watching my dude 🥰
I think with guitars and bass tuned down to the point your using steel tow cables as strings to maintain tension... Low growls tend to vanish in the mix. Especially live where you can't completely control the frequencies of each instrument @@SoulSingerDiscovers
There is a video called 'OPERATION: "Throat Camera". Will Ramos of Lorna Shore scoped while he performs harsh vocals!' That is a must watch. It explains and shows the throat and mouth shapes he uses.
Yess! I totally subscribe to your statement! When others use white noise, grey noise or other "sound colours" to fall asleep, i can use metalcore, deathcore or hardcore punk instead! No lie! 🤭😉
@@DeeDee-eb6feI used to do this too. Didn't matter if Slipknot, Suicide Silence, Khublai Khan, Lorna Shore or else. It was calming. I stopped but not because of the music but rather because I learned to be alone with my thoughts.
Definitely an acquired taste. As mentioned by others, the Charismatic Voice scoped his vocal cords to see what was happening while he used harsh vocals.
The Charismatic Voice actually had scientists put camera down his throat, because no one, not even him, could tell exactly *how* he can produce all those sounds and styles with just one set of vocal tracts. They ended up calling him a unicorn, because this far they've never seen anyone command they throat tissues like that. Because there's very little data this far no one knows if he just has very unique physique or if larger amount of people could do the same with proper practice. Fascinating!
I find Lorna shore EXTREMELY calming. This is the sound in my brain all the time. So to give it a voice and a place. It's like someone else carries the weight for a while. its cathartic.
For me this kind of music can both pump me up and calm me down. It depends on what mood I’m in. If I’m stressed or angry it can give me an outlet for those feelings and help me relax, but if I’m feeling down it can hype me up again. Or I can just put it on and vibe if I’m in a happier mood. It’s good for pretty much all situations really. And yes, it is definitely an acquired taste. But it’s so worth putting the time in to adjust to it!
I am enrolled in the workshop collaboration between Will Ramos, Elisabeth Zharoff (Charismatic voice) and Chris Liepe and it is is just so much fun. So well produced and the exercises at times are ridiculous but because we have Will and Elisabeth and Chris being just as ridiculous and having so much fun with it, it's easy to allow yourself to do the same. I'm looking forward to the next round of Zoom calls with Will! Oh, I suggested Will doing the one take of the cover of Chokehold by Sleep Token in the livestream that you did :) Also the more brutal and melancholic the metal, the more I relate to it and the better I feel but I find that is true of a lot neurodivergent people and a lot of people who deal with mental health crap. Some of us have been in extremely dark places, darker than the metal could ever be and it was the metal that offered us a barrier against the real darkness weighing on us.
I've been debating enrolling into that collab myself!!! I have been working on harsh vocals for nearly a decade and it only feels appropriate to try and really REALLY improve.... what have your overall thoughts been on your progress so far, or are you very new to it still?
Thanks Melisa for getting to Lorna Shore. You reacted to them exactly like I thought you would, slughtly shocked, amused, and an appreciation of the talent expressed in the song and the genre itself. And no bullshit. I really can't add anything that the other comments have already said about the band and/or the song itself except my mindset regarding metal. I've been a fan of heavy metal since it's inception in the early seventies. (Yes, the fathers of metal are Black Sabbath, dont get me started with people's arguments to the contrary) I listen to metal regardless of the mood I'm in. The music really doesn't pump me up a lot nor does it depress me either. I guess I'm trying to say is that it just helps me get through my day. I have thoroughly enjoyed the evolution of the genre and eager to explore where the music goes next!
The one take of this as many others already mentioned is absolutely over the top performance. He sounds absolutely mindblowing and the fact that he is capable to articulate the harsh vocals is beyond this world… also there is a video with the charismatic voice where they put a camera down his throat and that dear lady is pure enjoyment
Lorna Shore for me is more relaxing, but that's mostly because they're a bit more "friendly" to listen to. Otherwise, Death Metal/Core usually amps me up. If I'm angry, it calms me. Fills the brain with enough music to drown out the other racket that's always going off in my head. Hopefully you make a video of Wills one take live performance of this song!
:D i like your shooketh! facial expressions But Hurrah !! You did the badest track, why is ? because every song they put online after this, is getting better then the one before ... more musical, better voice, heavyly more use of choirs and orchestral backings really interesting mix they put out can you imagine, that this band, with this music, can make you emotional ? so really like i need to cry now ? i didn´t until they put out the "Pain Remains" trilogy (3 videos / 3 parted musictrack) even today it brings me to emotions btw, i was one of the suggesting ones, in my case in a early Nightwish reaction ;)
This is the song that got me into Lorna Shore. I grew up with the old heavy metal classics, but kind of fell out of love with the genre for most of the 2000s. In 2019, I got curious again, and dove in deep. Went black metal, doom metal, and when i could finally understand a Cannibal Corpse song and lyrics, I was unleashed lol. Then i was introduced to Jinjer and Trivium and love them. All that metal led me to Lorna from youtube music's handy dandy algorithm. And now I've found your channel too 😂 Great reaction, looking forward to watching you explore more!
You should give more of their songs a try. To The Hellfire blew up because it was the band's first EP with Will Ramos (the vocalist) but they have many amazing songs with him, and I personally fell in love with them at first because of the choirs in their songs. Of The Abyss is a great example :) Edit: something to note - Will's enunciations while screaming is amazing, compared to other vocalists
Most cathartic piece of music I have heard, fantastic! And you are spot on about needing time for the ears to adjust to new and complex music, this is why for instance Epica has less mass appeal then Nightwish and Nightwish less then mainstream pop.
This comment is *chefs kiss* yeah I guess I get the catharsis of it if I were mad or something. Certainly the complexity is its own little hurdle but I feel I’m getting there 😊💪
This is what I listen to when I'm at my lowest or most frustrated. For me it acts as a conduit, allowing me to truly access those feelings and emotions, exacerbating them for a while, but also allowing them to be released, which leads to calm and serenity. Lorna is also AMAZING live, have managed to see them twice now.
You're edited scenes were hilarious 😁 if you wanna see melancholy, check out Lorna shore : pain remains trilogy. Also if you would like to see one of will's influences, check out infant annihilator : Blasphemian, but don't say i didn't warn you 😉 😆
New to the channel, and the eerie and melancholic metal is definitely uplifting for me, because it's very relatable. And most times helps me get out of my little funks where I feel a bit down.
I’ve become a huge fan of Lorna Shore recently. Will is a beast of a vocalist. His Sleep Token covers are really good, and I’ve had the Pain Remains album on loop for weeks now. It’s a great way for me to release a lot of stress, and just decompress from the stresses that life throws at me. Metal in general has always been my go-to. I’ve been a metal head for almost 40 years now, and as long as metal artists keep putting out masterful music like this, I’ll continue to be a metal head. Also, as others have said, checking out the one-take performances is highly recommended. As a fellow vocalist, it’s a great way to really hear what he does, unfiltered.
Great reaction. You should give Will Ramos (the singer) one take vocal performance of this a listen. I also recommend Wills cover of Chokehold. Plus there's a video called Operation throat camera on the channel of the charismatic voice in which scientists put a camera down Wills throat to see what's going on during those harsh vocals. The video is very long, but most is about Elizabeth getting to know Will, the actual part in the voice lab is short enough for a reaction. Greetings from Germany
I’ve seen Lorna Shore twice, along with Mastodon and Gojira, in the last 4 months. I went from shocked and not sure if I was interested in Lorna Shore to a huge fan after hearing them live. My brain can’t really comprehend what Will is doing with his voice. He nails it live. Gojira though….probably the best live shows of my life.
Out of the three, Lorna Shore is my favorite band, but no doubt that Gojira was the top live act of that tour. They are just fantastic at what they do,.
I like this kind of metal because it's like extreme sports like skateboarding, snowboarding, base jumping, wing suiting, etc. It's just balls to the wall and gotta be at the top of the game to even pull it off.
Plus one on the calming effect. The more extreme the metal the more chilled I get. I actually have meditated to Meshuggah. It really works, especially when watching the video for Clockworks.
Metal does have ties to melancholy folk music, given that Judas Priest covered Joan Baez's Diamonds and Rust (makes sense when you consider they got their name from The Ballad of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest, off John Wesley Harding). And while their Fleetwood Mac cover is from their blues era, Green Manalishi is definitely one of the more brooding Peter Green tracks.
Nice review!!!! Definitely can do these noises live, hes a monster! The one takes attest to this, give them a go, also, if you want to hear him clean singing, try his cover of Sleep Tokens 'Hypnosis', wooooo lawd ❤
Generally listening to metal and adjacent music, has a very positive effect on my mood ... except for the band Anathema (who have not been "metal" for a very long time). It's a just how introverted, melancholic, moody and even angry the music can be combined with various associations of memory from the time that I was really into the band. So whenever I listen to them for a length of time, I tend to come away feeling quite self-reflective and melancholy too. Sadly the band broke up inexplicably a couple of years ago.
I just got to see these guys live this last Friday! Lorna Shore has been my favorite band for years and then Will Ramos came along and made them even sicker! These guys put on an amazing fucking show live.
My brain is constantly chaos and when I listen to something like Lorna or IA it actually calms me down. I call it my happy music because it allows me to relax
Did not expect the more than decent knowledge on harsh vocals. A job well done. To answer your question about emotions: To The Hellfire gets me pumped, bur songs like the Pain Remains trilogy actually make me feel very introspective and sad to a certain extent, but in a good way. To me, songs like those feel like katharsis.
Definitely listen to the one take of this done by Will, it's really interesting the difference. What he's actually doing with his goblin is he's basically adopting a Smeagol impression and then injecting his fry into it. It's not even really a scream, it's quite something. Learning how to do it myself in a different way made me realise that it's not actually "high" in terms of vocal range, it's an illusion. Like if we are talking about a high belt compared to say a low note, it's actually more mid comparatively. The same way that Andy Serkiss when he does Smeagol voice in lord of the rings isn't actually affecting any high frequency, it's all illusory. It really has to be to be able to sustain it and you don't need a lot of breath pressure to effect it, the way you do something like a high belt.
oh you absolutely should check out one of his one take videos. Metal is as diverse as any genre of music, one can find music within metal suited for any mindset.
Listening to the scary and heavy stuff is exciting, calming, and relaxing. I've worked out while listening to it and also fallen asleep listening to it lol
Yes ………………… metal music actually soothes me 🤷🏻♂️ Idk if it’s because our world is so bad and Metal music is my way to vent , my way to pump me up for work , and also my way to relax 😁 Metal Core is a genre that has everything I need in one song It has the angry growls and screams and it has melodic vocals as well, so it soothes my angry side and my romantical side all in one song 🤪 Anyways great reaction 🤘🏻
Metal music makes me feel like I'm not alone in the dark. There are many other people going through the same things and dealing with those things in their own way along with me. It's a dark and beautiful community that is there to lift each other up.
i do FEEL the melancholy in metal when it is there. and none makes me feel more than Spiritbox and their song/music video "Constance". blubbered like a baby and i'm not ashamed to say it.
So I’m new to your channel (loving what I see and hear lol) but when you showing the higher scream it sounded like a whistle which reminded me of the whistle scream or siren scream as some call it and that was beautiful lol 😂
Oh, and definitely, if you think that Will Ramos does some crazy stuff, you should go the extra mile and listen to Dickie Allen of Infant Annihilator. I suggest "Blasphemian", not only, because the video is Hieronymus Bosch meets Southpark style, that offends Americans deeply, but also because it really features Mr. Allens incredible guttural vocal skills. No joke, I think he is at least among the 5 best guttural vocalists alive. Maybe he is the best one. You may not be ready for this band. But on the other hand: Noone ever is. Best regards, my dear. (Oh, and I once saw a video of Dickie Allen recording the vocals of this track in the sleeping room studio with his dudes. He used a simple SM7b and has far less EQ going on in final production and is really, really scary, besides being a really funny guy. And I am really used to gutturals.)
@@PostMortalForm People often ask: "How is this not banned on YT???" And the simple answer is: It does not violate the guidelines. Only one of their videos has been banned - because of nudity. Of the band members. The offense is purely on the side of the viewers, how they interprete what they see. IA are some clever dudes. Some people see their personal "hell" (quote from an american reactor I recommended this video), "phallic symbols", cruelty... Others laugh (like me) about the hilarious creativity behind this. Of course they want to offend, but they do it in a very clever and insanely funny way. How much more deathcore can music be? Infant Annihilator. How much more offensive can it get on YT? Infant Annihilator. How far can you go lyrically? IA. How skilled could an instrumentation possibly be? IA..... (Seriously, these guys are geniuses and deserve every click of their YT fame.)
About how metal music affects my mood: usually it puts me in a better mood and makes me happy. On bad days it also gives me energy to keep going (especially angrier songs are great for period days etc 😅) BUT! It's also soothing. Last winter, someone very close to me died. The first week or two after the funeral, the only music I could listen to were Insomnium, Mustan Kuun Lapset and some Led Zeppelin. Don't know why, but these 3 were the only ones that eased the pain in my chest just a little, and calmed me down. Moonsorrow also has this effect on me. It's "familiar" somehow, very natural - it's like a reminder that you are not alone, other people have similar experiences. ...Don't know if this makes any sense but there you go 🤦♀😅
The grossest of metal music for me is very relieving to hear something that relates to my emotions that I have a hard time expressing, I’m a very gentle soft person but I get absolutely captivated by this shit feeling very at home
I gotta tell you, Special K, that look of 'what the fuck,' at the beginning, was priceless. As for being able to 'execute' said vocal style, don't be too hard on yourself: starving bears fighting for food couldn't produce such sounds! A great review!
you should really do his ( Will Ramos ) one take of dis sweet tune :) you WILL fall over from that :) he hits an Aflat6 in there as if it means NOTHING... or you want something really HEAVY, try Humanity's Last Breath- Labyrinthian or Cattle Decapatation- Bring Back The Plague
As far as metal goes I have just been into it from being a young teenager.....I have just been chasing the metal riff ever since... The power of the riff compells me it also didn't take me long to find extreme stuff ,.....it just is good very rarely listen to other genras, an metal has so many sub genras is it never gets boring to me
I don't have a problem with just listening to every meshuggah album or obituary album in one day just love love the guitar riff in its many forms love when I discover new bands/or guitar tone
Any of the one takes he does would be amazing to see you do. Also the pain remains trilogy would give you an insight in to what level of emotion this style of metal can achieve
Metal music definitely relaxes me for some reason. I often listen to some black metal before going to sleep, however there are bands out there that pump me up rather than relaxing me, it's usually the breakdowns that pump me up
Will is very sweet and skilled. Discovering his voice is a particuliar moment in a life ^^ So that, one question if you allow it : will you share here somme of your singing ?
Good to see you exploring the more extreme side of metal. Your fans have good taste, having recommended this, Cannibal Corpse and Nevermore early on. You might find the band Archspire interesting, and definitely closer to bee-bop than this is. They're a Canadian technical death metal band and their vocalist combines death metal techniques with techniques from speed rap. The band themselves are all virtuosos and they certainly like to push the limits in terms of execution, especially in terms of speed. It's great to see an honest analysis as a reaction!
@@SoulSingerDiscovers Archspire just released a new video that they funded with a Kickstarter... Great video, but not their best track to showcase the band as a whole... That's the title track from the 2021 album "Bleed the Future." They were asking for $30k CAD to help film it and the Kickstarter broke $80k... So glad that it worked out all right in the end and they made quite the video! Also extremely gory, so demonetization is likely if you react to that one. They have videos for two of the other tracks off that album, "Golden Mouth of Ruin", which they basically recorded on no budget just to release it early as a single, and "Drone Corpse Aviator", which is an amazing video despite it's small budget... But it's also a bit bloody. Some of the band members have friends and family in the film industry, so they like to make crazy music videos... It took about a decade and their third album to actually be able to afford to make them, though! Their earlier stuff is great too, although they have mostly instrumental and even vocal playthroughs of their other tracks. An old favorite of reaction channels pre-2021 was reacting to their lyric videos, such as the lyric video for "Involuntary Doppelganger..." It's definitely a struggle to keep up with that one after many listens, let alone the first one! Hope you find something you enjoy out of it, or, at least it elicits a strong enough emotion to create a good reaction video!
youve gotta watch his one take to better hear how he's articulating the vocals, and also how relaxed he is doing them as well. It truly is the more impressive version from a vocal perspective.
Hey, i just stumbled upon this reaction and it's cool that you're a fellow Scottish person 🏴 just thought I'd let you know that if you want to hear them live they're playing in the barrowlands on the 3rd of December, you have no idea how hyped for that gig i am 😂
Oh man, you need to take a deep breath and realise that he is an instrument not just a voice... You've been advised to listen him do it live and you will never regret that he is beyond amazing :)
Its been a bit, but i have to plug them again in light of recent events! Would love to see you react to the band AVATAR and their song Napalm (Live from Ages). They are from Gothenburg, Sweden. They just hit No. 1 on the Billboard Rock Airplay, and got a fossil named after them!
When you listen to metal most of your life, like me, it soothes the soul or can make me happy. Even when they talk about ripping the skin off my bones and watching me burn.😍
Heard that "cookie monster" style for decades now but Will Ramos takes it to a whole other level, serious vocalizations, dude takes good care of his voice
To answer your question from the beginning: Whenever I listen to Bathory's Twilight of the Gods album 2x in a row, I am googling things like "How can a modern person enter Valhalla, besides dying in battle?" or "Would our world be a better place if the Vikings hadn't been abandoning their North American settlements?" Most of the time I get a bit depressed afterwards, because the answers are negative, indecisive or there are no answers ... I hope this clears things up a bit. Somehow similar to what you experience with Tom Waits. Have a great week, my dear Scottish dudette! Skol!🍻 May Odin give you knowledge on your path. May Thor grant you strength and courage on your way, and may Loki give you laughter as you go. May the blessings of your gods and my own be with you, Melisa.
I saw them live last month here in Belgium and they blew my socks off! They are live so much better and the atmosphere the whole band brings is insane! Without all the layering Will sounds as brutal as this one if not more brutal tbh!
You should watch the documentary when they study his vocals. Because he can 100% do them with nothing. And they even explain that he has more control of his vocal muscles than most Opera singers. It is its own craft that is often tossed out as easy or nonsense by most who don't understand. Great video! You too have an amazing voice
I've seen them live. YES, he can do it live, too! (Will Ramos - looks like a labradoodle and sings like a werewolf!!) Melisa, check out the 'Pain Remains trilogy' from the latest album of the same name)
Here we go... One-Take(s), cover(s), Operation: Throat Cam (would be a total bonus cherry on top to see your reaction to it!). /popcorn This is going to be so much fun watching the seed of curiosity send you down the rabbit hole.
@@SoulSingerDiscovers the throat cam one is FASCINATING. Charismatic Voice gets a camera right down to his vocal chords as he makes these sounds, including the chorus of this song. His entire vocal structure TWISTS to make these sounds.
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You definately should give his one take of To the Hellfire a shot! Will Ramos sounds even better when not overproduced and with too many layers on it! I don't like this song in the original version tbh., BUT his one take blew my mind completely! There I was SHOOKETH ^^
I agree, no layers on his one take. And listening to it you realize he doesn't need the layers at all. It still sounds insane!
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The best part about Will Ramos is he can do these screams perfectly live. His one takes as many others have mentioned is probably the best representation of how good he is. The mixing in the one takes also has his vocals in the foreground instead of blended so you can make out the details better.
Yeah I’m looking forward to discovering the one takes they sounds amazing 🤩
@@SoulSingerDiscoversyou should check out Wills cover of Slow Dancing In The Dark because his cleans are fucking incredible as well
Please do the one take vocal playthrough of THIS song!!! Hearing all the snorts and things in real time with no layers is just incredible.
I would argue a vocal doubler is layering tho
The scary thing is most of the stuff is *not* about layers or effect pedals. His one take vocal performance of this song is breathtaking exactly for that reason - he just jumps all over the map of distorted vocals like it was Sunday picnic in a park.
Yep. The layering and pedalling are just to add some depth to the sound in the studio, but when all is said and done, a human still had to make these noises. And he does.
THIS. everybody and anybody check out his one take vocal performance. 0.o
I just saw Lorna Shore live last week and I can confirm that Will Ramos is a demon-alien hybrid. He doesn't sound appreciably different on stage than he does in the studio recordings, aside from some of the multi-tracking being missing. He tended to go towards the highs/mids rather than the lows. I have to wonder though if that was due to him being more comfortable there or if it was to make sure that his melody could cut through the wall of sound from the rest of the band. In any case, there's no denying that dude's talents.
Also, their breakdowns were so intense that I could feel them rumbling my innards.
Can confirm, any death metal or deathcore band I've seen live, I can feel that bass vibrating my insides, it's bizarre!
Rumbling my Innards is my new metal band 😂 that’s interesting that he went for the highs and mids. The low must be slightly more tricky to maintain perhaps? Thanks for watching my dude 🥰
I think with guitars and bass tuned down to the point your using steel tow cables as strings to maintain tension... Low growls tend to vanish in the mix. Especially live where you can't completely control the frequencies of each instrument @@SoulSingerDiscovers
@@SoulSingerDiscoversYou should listen to his one take play through of it :)
Beautifully explained. Thank you ♥️
Will's one take is 100% live... also try Soulless Existence from the Pain Remains album, ofr the trilogy, that's one helluva masterpiece :)
soulless exsistence is my absolute favourite... the melodies get under my skin so hard
my favourite song of all time. hands down.
There is a video called 'OPERATION: "Throat Camera". Will Ramos of Lorna Shore scoped while he performs harsh vocals!' That is a must watch. It explains and shows the throat and mouth shapes he uses.
Sure just casually contort your vocal chords into a yin yang symbol of flesh and void. Np.
I've been into metal most of my adult life and I can safely say the heavier the calmer I am. Like I could probably meditate to this kind of stuff.
Yess! I totally subscribe to your statement! When others use white noise, grey noise or other "sound colours" to fall asleep, i can use metalcore, deathcore or hardcore punk instead! No lie! 🤭😉
I fell asleep to Infant Annihilator once .... white noise
@@DeeDee-eb6feI used to do this too. Didn't matter if Slipknot, Suicide Silence, Khublai Khan, Lorna Shore or else. It was calming. I stopped but not because of the music but rather because I learned to be alone with my thoughts.
lorna shore is on my bedtime playlist lol. my cats frickin love them as well 😂
Same bro. I listen to this stuff as a sound track when I sleep. All my metal bangers.
Will’s vocals are much more easily appreciated live or doing the one takes. They really show off his voice. He is extremely talented.
I have no doubt! He is something else 😊💪
@@SoulSingerDiscovers Check out some of his interviews. Love the one with him skating. Will is out living the dream and enjoying it all.
Definitely an acquired taste. As mentioned by others, the Charismatic Voice scoped his vocal cords to see what was happening while he used harsh vocals.
I'm not the biggest Lorna Shore fan but it's great they're introducing so many people to Deathcore. I'm all for that
I definitely think they are something new and amazing for new listeners that’s for sure 😊
The Charismatic Voice actually had scientists put camera down his throat, because no one, not even him, could tell exactly *how* he can produce all those sounds and styles with just one set of vocal tracts.
They ended up calling him a unicorn, because this far they've never seen anyone command they throat tissues like that.
Because there's very little data this far no one knows if he just has very unique physique or if larger amount of people could do the same with proper practice.
Fascinating!
It really calms me down, the heavier the better. I am old and do not know why, it just makes me happy, for four decades and counting 🤷♀😉
I find Lorna shore EXTREMELY calming. This is the sound in my brain all the time. So to give it a voice and a place. It's like someone else carries the weight for a while. its cathartic.
When you have anxiety and your mind is going a million miles a minute, the intensity of metal is great at drowning everything else out.
For me this kind of music can both pump me up and calm me down. It depends on what mood I’m in. If I’m stressed or angry it can give me an outlet for those feelings and help me relax, but if I’m feeling down it can hype me up again. Or I can just put it on and vibe if I’m in a happier mood. It’s good for pretty much all situations really. And yes, it is definitely an acquired taste. But it’s so worth putting the time in to adjust to it!
I am enrolled in the workshop collaboration between Will Ramos, Elisabeth Zharoff (Charismatic voice) and Chris Liepe and it is is just so much fun. So well produced and the exercises at times are ridiculous but because we have Will and Elisabeth and Chris being just as ridiculous and having so much fun with it, it's easy to allow yourself to do the same. I'm looking forward to the next round of Zoom calls with Will!
Oh, I suggested Will doing the one take of the cover of Chokehold by Sleep Token in the livestream that you did :) Also the more brutal and melancholic the metal, the more I relate to it and the better I feel but I find that is true of a lot neurodivergent people and a lot of people who deal with mental health crap. Some of us have been in extremely dark places, darker than the metal could ever be and it was the metal that offered us a barrier against the real darkness weighing on us.
all metal makes me happy
I've been debating enrolling into that collab myself!!! I have been working on harsh vocals for nearly a decade and it only feels appropriate to try and really REALLY improve.... what have your overall thoughts been on your progress so far, or are you very new to it still?
Hell yeah bro!
Stumbled across this video and the title alone had me crying🤣 Great reaction!🙂
Glad you enjoyed! :) Thank you for watching my dude 🥰
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Thanks Melisa for getting to Lorna Shore. You reacted to them exactly like I
thought you would, slughtly shocked, amused, and an appreciation of the talent expressed in the song and the genre itself. And no bullshit.
I really can't add anything that the other comments have already said about the band and/or the song itself except my mindset regarding metal.
I've been a fan of heavy metal since it's inception in the early seventies. (Yes, the fathers of metal are Black Sabbath, dont get me started with people's arguments to the contrary)
I listen to metal regardless of the mood I'm in. The music really doesn't pump me up a lot nor does it depress me either. I guess I'm trying to say is that it just helps me get through my day.
I have thoroughly enjoyed the evolution of the genre and eager to explore where the music goes next!
The one take of this as many others already mentioned is absolutely over the top performance. He sounds absolutely mindblowing and the fact that he is capable to articulate the harsh vocals is beyond this world… also there is a video with the charismatic voice where they put a camera down his throat and that dear lady is pure enjoyment
Subbed for your edits and humor! Also love watching singers from non extreme genres learn about harsh vocals growling etc
Thank you so much my dude! There’s plenty more nonsense where that came from 😆💪
Lorna Shore for me is more relaxing, but that's mostly because they're a bit more "friendly" to listen to. Otherwise, Death Metal/Core usually amps me up. If I'm angry, it calms me. Fills the brain with enough music to drown out the other racket that's always going off in my head.
Hopefully you make a video of Wills one take live performance of this song!
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i like your shooketh! facial expressions
But Hurrah !! You did the badest track, why is ?
because every song they put online after this, is getting better then the one before ... more musical, better voice, heavyly more use of choirs and orchestral backings
really interesting mix they put out
can you imagine, that this band, with this music, can make you emotional ? so really like i need to cry now ?
i didn´t until they put out the "Pain Remains" trilogy (3 videos / 3 parted musictrack)
even today it brings me to emotions
btw, i was one of the suggesting ones, in my case in a early Nightwish reaction ;)
This is the song that got me into Lorna Shore. I grew up with the old heavy metal classics, but kind of fell out of love with the genre for most of the 2000s. In 2019, I got curious again, and dove in deep. Went black metal, doom metal, and when i could finally understand a Cannibal Corpse song and lyrics, I was unleashed lol. Then i was introduced to Jinjer and Trivium and love them. All that metal led me to Lorna from youtube music's handy dandy algorithm. And now I've found your channel too 😂
Great reaction, looking forward to watching you explore more!
This is their 3rd and current vocalist, Will Ramos. Listen to his vocal cover of Sleep Token's "Chokehold" to hear his clean vocals.
You should give more of their songs a try. To The Hellfire blew up because it was the band's first EP with Will Ramos (the vocalist) but they have many amazing songs with him, and I personally fell in love with them at first because of the choirs in their songs. Of The Abyss is a great example :)
Edit: something to note - Will's enunciations while screaming is amazing, compared to other vocalists
Most cathartic piece of music I have heard, fantastic! And you are spot on about needing time for the ears to adjust to new and complex music, this is why for instance Epica has less mass appeal then Nightwish and Nightwish less then mainstream pop.
This comment is *chefs kiss* yeah I guess I get the catharsis of it if I were mad or something. Certainly the complexity is its own little hurdle but I feel I’m getting there 😊💪
This is what I listen to when I'm at my lowest or most frustrated. For me it acts as a conduit, allowing me to truly access those feelings and emotions, exacerbating them for a while, but also allowing them to be released, which leads to calm and serenity. Lorna is also AMAZING live, have managed to see them twice now.
You're edited scenes were hilarious 😁 if you wanna see melancholy, check out Lorna shore : pain remains trilogy.
Also if you would like to see one of will's influences, check out infant annihilator : Blasphemian, but don't say i didn't warn you 😉 😆
Oh god! I know I shouldn’t listen but I can’t help myself 😂 thank you for the recommendation…. I think! 😊
I too am new to LS. The more I hear the more I love. You nailed the patience needed to catch the subtleties!!!
There are some great links on TH-cam of this being performed live. And it's super impressive 🤘
Yeah I’m gonna have to check them out! It’s too impressive not to 😊💪
"that is fucking feral" is easily the best line ive heard in a reaction of this song lmao
New to the channel, and the eerie and melancholic metal is definitely uplifting for me, because it's very relatable. And most times helps me get out of my little funks where I feel a bit down.
This style of music helps me relax
Please check the one take performance of this song. Will are incredible 🤩
I’ve become a huge fan of Lorna Shore recently. Will is a beast of a vocalist. His Sleep Token covers are really good, and I’ve had the Pain Remains album on loop for weeks now. It’s a great way for me to release a lot of stress, and just decompress from the stresses that life throws at me. Metal in general has always been my go-to. I’ve been a metal head for almost 40 years now, and as long as metal artists keep putting out masterful music like this, I’ll continue to be a metal head.
Also, as others have said, checking out the one-take performances is highly recommended. As a fellow vocalist, it’s a great way to really hear what he does, unfiltered.
Great reaction. You should give Will Ramos (the singer) one take vocal performance of this a listen.
I also recommend Wills cover of Chokehold.
Plus there's a video called Operation throat camera on the channel of the charismatic voice in which scientists put a camera down Wills throat to see what's going on during those harsh vocals. The video is very long, but most is about Elizabeth getting to know Will, the actual part in the voice lab is short enough for a reaction.
Greetings from Germany
I’ve seen Lorna Shore twice, along with Mastodon and Gojira, in the last 4 months. I went from shocked and not sure if I was interested in Lorna Shore to a huge fan after hearing them live. My brain can’t really comprehend what Will is doing with his voice. He nails it live.
Gojira though….probably the best live shows of my life.
Out of the three, Lorna Shore is my favorite band, but no doubt that Gojira was the top live act of that tour. They are just fantastic at what they do,.
You should watch the onetake vocal playthrough of this song
You gotta see his one take performance of this song. Dude is a monster with insane talent and control. He sounds just as good as he does in a studio.
I like this kind of metal because it's like extreme sports like skateboarding, snowboarding, base jumping, wing suiting, etc.
It's just balls to the wall and gotta be at the top of the game to even pull it off.
Plus one on the calming effect.
The more extreme the metal the more chilled I get.
I actually have meditated to Meshuggah. It really works, especially when watching the video for Clockworks.
Metal does have ties to melancholy folk music, given that Judas Priest covered Joan Baez's Diamonds and Rust (makes sense when you consider they got their name from The Ballad of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest, off John Wesley Harding). And while their Fleetwood Mac cover is from their blues era, Green Manalishi is definitely one of the more brooding Peter Green tracks.
Nice review!!!! Definitely can do these noises live, hes a monster! The one takes attest to this, give them a go, also, if you want to hear him clean singing, try his cover of Sleep Tokens 'Hypnosis', wooooo lawd ❤
He has those vocal mechanics you speak of, but he is able to do it like no one else in this business. He can twist his throat somehow.
Generally listening to metal and adjacent music, has a very positive effect on my mood ... except for the band Anathema (who have not been "metal" for a very long time). It's a just how introverted, melancholic, moody and even angry the music can be combined with various associations of memory from the time that I was really into the band. So whenever I listen to them for a length of time, I tend to come away feeling quite self-reflective and melancholy too. Sadly the band broke up inexplicably a couple of years ago.
I just got to see these guys live this last Friday! Lorna Shore has been my favorite band for years and then Will Ramos came along and made them even sicker! These guys put on an amazing fucking show live.
My brain is constantly chaos and when I listen to something like Lorna or IA it actually calms me down. I call it my happy music because it allows me to relax
That’s cool. I feel like if I find the right metal I will also feel a cathartic soothing vibe. Thanks for watching Aaron 😊
“That is fu***no feral” is the best description I’ve heard for that breakdown.
Did not expect the more than decent knowledge on harsh vocals. A job well done.
To answer your question about emotions: To The Hellfire gets me pumped, bur songs like the Pain Remains trilogy actually make me feel very introspective and sad to a certain extent, but in a good way. To me, songs like those feel like katharsis.
It brings out the empathy within... you can feel the husband's sadness for his loss...
Definitely listen to the one take of this done by Will, it's really interesting the difference.
What he's actually doing with his goblin is he's basically adopting a Smeagol impression and then injecting his fry into it. It's not even really a scream, it's quite something. Learning how to do it myself in a different way made me realise that it's not actually "high" in terms of vocal range, it's an illusion. Like if we are talking about a high belt compared to say a low note, it's actually more mid comparatively. The same way that Andy Serkiss when he does Smeagol voice in lord of the rings isn't actually affecting any high frequency, it's all illusory. It really has to be to be able to sustain it and you don't need a lot of breath pressure to effect it, the way you do something like a high belt.
oh you absolutely should check out one of his one take videos.
Metal is as diverse as any genre of music, one can find music within metal suited for any mindset.
I can as easily fall asleep as get pumped to metal music. It is the core of my being. Not to say I don’t like other genres.
I actually listen to this during sleep. Relaxes me.
Listening to the scary and heavy stuff is exciting, calming, and relaxing. I've worked out while listening to it and also fallen asleep listening to it lol
Yes ………………… metal music actually soothes me 🤷🏻♂️
Idk if it’s because our world is so bad and Metal music is my way to vent , my way to pump me up for work , and also my way to relax 😁
Metal Core is a genre that has everything I need in one song
It has the angry growls and screams and it has melodic vocals as well, so it soothes my angry side and my romantical side all in one song 🤪
Anyways great reaction 🤘🏻
Metal music makes me feel like I'm not alone in the dark. There are many other people going through the same things and dealing with those things in their own way along with me. It's a dark and beautiful community that is there to lift each other up.
What a wonderful sentiment:)
i do FEEL the melancholy in metal when it is there. and none makes me feel more than Spiritbox and their song/music video "Constance". blubbered like a baby and i'm not ashamed to say it.
The charismatic voice invited Will to make video recordings of his throat at a doctor's office while he did these voices.
So I’m new to your channel (loving what I see and hear lol) but when you showing the higher scream it sounded like a whistle which reminded me of the whistle scream or siren scream as some call it and that was beautiful lol 😂
Thanks for subbing! :)
Oh, and definitely, if you think that Will Ramos does some crazy stuff, you should go the extra mile and listen to Dickie Allen of Infant Annihilator. I suggest "Blasphemian", not only, because the video is Hieronymus Bosch meets Southpark style, that offends Americans deeply, but also because it really features Mr. Allens incredible guttural vocal skills. No joke, I think he is at least among the 5 best guttural vocalists alive. Maybe he is the best one.
You may not be ready for this band.
But on the other hand: Noone ever is.
Best regards, my dear.
(Oh, and I once saw a video of Dickie Allen recording the vocals of this track in the sleeping room studio with his dudes. He used a simple SM7b and has far less EQ going on in final production and is really, really scary, besides being a really funny guy. And I am really used to gutturals.)
The video for blasphemian is insane, some of the most deranged and unhinged animation I’ve ever seen!
@@PostMortalForm People often ask: "How is this not banned on YT???" And the simple answer is: It does not violate the guidelines.
Only one of their videos has been banned - because of nudity. Of the band members.
The offense is purely on the side of the viewers, how they interprete what they see. IA are some clever dudes. Some people see their personal "hell" (quote from an american reactor I recommended this video), "phallic symbols", cruelty...
Others laugh (like me) about the hilarious creativity behind this. Of course they want to offend, but they do it in a very clever and insanely funny way.
How much more deathcore can music be? Infant Annihilator. How much more offensive can it get on YT? Infant Annihilator. How far can you go lyrically? IA. How skilled could an instrumentation possibly be? IA.....
(Seriously, these guys are geniuses and deserve every click of their YT fame.)
About how metal music affects my mood: usually it puts me in a better mood and makes me happy. On bad days it also gives me energy to keep going (especially angrier songs are great for period days etc 😅)
BUT! It's also soothing. Last winter, someone very close to me died. The first week or two after the funeral, the only music I could listen to were Insomnium, Mustan Kuun Lapset and some Led Zeppelin. Don't know why, but these 3 were the only ones that eased the pain in my chest just a little, and calmed me down. Moonsorrow also has this effect on me. It's "familiar" somehow, very natural - it's like a reminder that you are not alone, other people have similar experiences.
...Don't know if this makes any sense but there you go 🤦♀😅
The grossest of metal music for me is very relieving to hear something that relates to my emotions that I have a hard time expressing, I’m a very gentle soft person but I get absolutely captivated by this shit feeling very at home
I gotta tell you, Special K, that look of 'what the fuck,' at the beginning, was priceless.
As for being able to 'execute' said vocal style, don't be too hard on yourself: starving bears fighting for food couldn't produce such sounds!
A great review!
you should really do his ( Will Ramos ) one take of dis sweet tune :) you WILL fall over from that :) he hits an Aflat6 in there as if it means NOTHING...
or you want something really HEAVY, try Humanity's Last Breath- Labyrinthian
or Cattle Decapatation- Bring Back The Plague
You should check out the One Take Cover of Into The Earth. I'd say that's their most vocally challenging song.
As far as metal goes I have just been into it from being a young teenager.....I have just been chasing the metal riff ever since... The power of the riff compells me it also didn't take me long to find extreme stuff ,.....it just is good very rarely listen to other genras, an metal has so many sub genras is it never gets boring to me
I don't have a problem with just listening to every meshuggah album or obituary album in one day just love love the guitar riff in its many forms love when I discover new bands/or guitar tone
Any of the one takes he does would be amazing to see you do. Also the pain remains trilogy would give you an insight in to what level of emotion this style of metal can achieve
Metal music definitely relaxes me for some reason. I often listen to some black metal before going to sleep, however there are bands out there that pump me up rather than relaxing me, it's usually the breakdowns that pump me up
the vocalist (Will Ramos) also did a live recording of him doing the vocals to the song on his youtube channel :)
I have to see it! 😊
Will is very sweet and skilled. Discovering his voice is a particuliar moment in a life ^^ So that, one question if you allow it : will you share here somme of your singing ?
As far as I know, he is actually completely self taught!
Good to see you exploring the more extreme side of metal. Your fans have good taste, having recommended this, Cannibal Corpse and Nevermore early on.
You might find the band Archspire interesting, and definitely closer to bee-bop than this is. They're a Canadian technical death metal band and their vocalist combines death metal techniques with techniques from speed rap. The band themselves are all virtuosos and they certainly like to push the limits in terms of execution, especially in terms of speed.
It's great to see an honest analysis as a reaction!
That sounds fantastic. I’ll add them to the list. Thank you so much for watching my dude 😊💪
@@SoulSingerDiscovers Archspire just released a new video that they funded with a Kickstarter... Great video, but not their best track to showcase the band as a whole... That's the title track from the 2021 album "Bleed the Future." They were asking for $30k CAD to help film it and the Kickstarter broke $80k... So glad that it worked out all right in the end and they made quite the video! Also extremely gory, so demonetization is likely if you react to that one.
They have videos for two of the other tracks off that album, "Golden Mouth of Ruin", which they basically recorded on no budget just to release it early as a single, and "Drone Corpse Aviator", which is an amazing video despite it's small budget... But it's also a bit bloody.
Some of the band members have friends and family in the film industry, so they like to make crazy music videos... It took about a decade and their third album to actually be able to afford to make them, though!
Their earlier stuff is great too, although they have mostly instrumental and even vocal playthroughs of their other tracks. An old favorite of reaction channels pre-2021 was reacting to their lyric videos, such as the lyric video for "Involuntary Doppelganger..." It's definitely a struggle to keep up with that one after many listens, let alone the first one!
Hope you find something you enjoy out of it, or, at least it elicits a strong enough emotion to create a good reaction video!
You should definitely check out their Pain Remains trilogy. It still showcases the heaviness, but a lot more emotional and more melodic.
Will do! :)
Think I just found a new channel to binge... 🔥🤘😝🤘🔥
Yassss!!! Welcome my dude! 😊💪♥️
youve gotta watch his one take to better hear how he's articulating the vocals, and also how relaxed he is doing them as well. It truly is the more impressive version from a vocal perspective.
Hey, i just stumbled upon this reaction and it's cool that you're a fellow Scottish person 🏴 just thought I'd let you know that if you want to hear them live they're playing in the barrowlands on the 3rd of December, you have no idea how hyped for that gig i am 😂
Oh man, you need to take a deep breath and realise that he is an instrument not just a voice... You've been advised to listen him do it live and you will never regret that he is beyond amazing :)
Its been a bit, but i have to plug them again in light of recent events! Would love to see you react to the band AVATAR and their song Napalm (Live from Ages). They are from Gothenburg, Sweden. They just hit No. 1 on the Billboard Rock Airplay, and got a fossil named after them!
I hear wolves in the throne room (black metal) to get sleep. It calms me down all the time
When you listen to metal most of your life, like me, it soothes the soul or can make me happy. Even when they talk about ripping the skin off my bones and watching me burn.😍
Jeepers H Crackers! That’s a lot but I support it 😊👹
not gunna lie, that high scream you had at 7:36 gave me shivers lol
Heard that "cookie monster" style for decades now but Will Ramos takes it to a whole other level, serious vocalizations, dude takes good care of his voice
“That is f****** feral” absolutely killed me 😂😂😂😂
I should be a poet! :P
To answer your question from the beginning:
Whenever I listen to Bathory's Twilight of the Gods album 2x in a row, I am googling things like "How can a modern person enter Valhalla, besides dying in battle?" or "Would our world be a better place if the Vikings hadn't been abandoning their North American settlements?"
Most of the time I get a bit depressed afterwards, because the answers are negative, indecisive or there are no answers ...
I hope this clears things up a bit. Somehow similar to what you experience with Tom Waits.
Have a great week, my dear Scottish dudette!
Skol!🍻
May Odin give you knowledge on your path. May Thor grant you strength and courage on your way, and may Loki give you laughter as you go. May the blessings of your gods and my own be with you, Melisa.
They sound just as good live
Love this. Will's growls mixed with the symphonic metal is beautiful. I recommend to you Will's covers of Sleep Token. I also recommend Sleep Token 😊
I'll check it out! Thanks for watching :)
Yes please some Sleep Token would be amazing. They are Will's favorite band!@@SoulSingerDiscovers
Any of Will's one take videos are definitely worth watching, the man is beyond impressive.
When I hear metal music it makes me happy and want to move.
I’ve seen them live. All Will.
If you watch their set from Santander in Reading Pennsylvania, his tea kettle scream was amazing.
I saw them live last month here in Belgium and they blew my socks off! They are live so much better and the atmosphere the whole band brings is insane!
Without all the layering Will sounds as brutal as this one if not more brutal tbh!
Yeah he’s a beast! 😊
His clean vocals are amazing too! I definitely recommend his cover of Sleep Token's Chokehold
I'll check it out! Thank you! :)
Adding to the insane talent he has, he is down to earth and humble af!!!!
You should watch the documentary when they study his vocals. Because he can 100% do them with nothing. And they even explain that he has more control of his vocal muscles than most Opera singers. It is its own craft that is often tossed out as easy or nonsense by most who don't understand. Great video! You too have an amazing voice
I've seen them live. YES, he can do it live, too! (Will Ramos - looks like a labradoodle and sings like a werewolf!!) Melisa, check out the 'Pain Remains trilogy' from the latest album of the same name)
Everyone has been suggesting this trilogy and I’m getting really curious now 🧐
Pain Remains 1, 2 and 3.. its essentially a deathcore ballad. Unbelievably beautiful
Not only is Will Ramos an incredible singer he is also trained in Mongolian throat singing.
I would pay top dollar to hear Will do that :)
Most valid reaction ever. Laughing at the pig
Thank you my dude! I’m so glad you enjoyed it 😂💪
Watch his ONE TAKES😌👌... No filters, no layering, just straight vocals
Here we go...
One-Take(s), cover(s), Operation: Throat Cam (would be a total bonus cherry on top to see your reaction to it!).
/popcorn
This is going to be so much fun watching the seed of curiosity send you down the rabbit hole.
I think I’ll have to do a series on all the little side quest videos Will has done honestly. There’s so many good ones to choose from 😊💪
@@SoulSingerDiscovers the throat cam one is FASCINATING. Charismatic Voice gets a camera right down to his vocal chords as he makes these sounds, including the chorus of this song. His entire vocal structure TWISTS to make these sounds.