Holy cow, that first pass! It's that sort of uber difficulty and creativity that makes me wish they'd allow back-to-back tumbling again. The more I see of Laschenova the more impressed I become.
Slava Ivanov COP says no back to back tumbling , so if a gymnast does a double layout + front tuck step out, back hs double tuck, its not counted because thats Back to back tumbling
@@heatherjay843 This is just my opinion, probably they don't want multiple tumblings in a single pass in a four tumbling pass modern floor today as it generates more connection values. More tumblings means more points.
My FAVORITE floor routine of all time, and my pick for World Champion this year. IMO, she should have won Gold instead of Silver at these Worlds in the All Around. She didn't even make the floor finals at these World's! Anyway, Natalia is one of the greatest of all time in my book.
I love these old routines especially of the Soviet gymnasts. I wish they could make a change to the code of points to allow gymnasts to be more artistic. I find the floor routines now pretty boring and it seems like the music is just afterthought. It's a shame what my favorite sport has become. 😪
She cowboys her double backs so wide.. It was rumored that she was attempting to train a triple back, which makes sense. Her being able to try a triple back would require massive cowboy to be able to land it, thus the bad habit was created. She was the last gymnast that needed to cowboy for rotation! She had uber power!!!
I was fortunate enough to attend these championships in (then) West Germany & this floor routine became my favorite of the competition. Natalia was really sensational and if the stupid "new life" rule hadn't been enacted that year, she would have won the AA as Bouginskaya fell on BB in the team optionals & wouldn't have beaten Natalia's score--back then AA MEANT all-around (in that the team compulsories, optionals & AA scores all counted).
she was my coach in new york!! she was a really great coach tho she was tough. she was always tough on sasha here too . . . sasha was my best friend!!! we pretty much taught her english but boy, did we play with her at first. asking silly questions...and she could respond with the only word she knew...yes! ha ha good times! but im going up to see her and her mom! natalia is going to do my new floor routine!!!
@Darkangel127 I wonder the same thing! I think it might have to do with all the things you have to put in a routine now that there is no room for choreography like this. I miss ARTISTIC gymnastics. The trickster gymnastics we have today is amazing but for a totally different reason.
@AnnaPavlovaFan She should have especially been doing a full-in for her last pass. She almost overrotated the double tuck and could have totally handled a full-in. Start with a bang and end with one, damn it!
@pappysprite You didn't understand my point.I know that doing it with the legs opened is easier, but she only did it that way because in those days that was not considered a mistake, as it is today. I'm very sure she could do it with the legs together but the effort was unecessary. Boguinskaya and Silivas at that same worlds, both got 10s...with the same "bad execution" on the double tuck.Many people here are questioning her bad form, but the thing is that in 89 that was considered perfect.
Cowboy Queen 😍 Effortless power 🥰 The result could have gone either way. I had Boguinskaia by .05. If only Laschenova could have cleaned up her beam dismount a bit, or at least not had any wobbles in the interior of the exercise.
haha. natalia was my gymnastics coach in camden county georgia. after she moved from new york. Coach Yuri hired her. and then she moved again. which was bad because our gymnastics program was doing good with her coaching and her high skill level. But i wonder whatever happened tp sascha , her daughter. and natalia isnt a soviet, she's russian.
@AnnaPavlovaFan I totally agree...and again she "cowboys" the double backs, which unfotunately is not good form. Nonetheless, she was an awesome gymnast.
I DID understand your point. Go back and review the 1989 worlds and listen to the commentators like Bart Conner. They specifically highlighted they were not very pretty. The idea she could have had her knees closer if she wanted to, is something I don't agree with. Boguinskaya did the same technique however like someone else pointed out, you can expect that from her given her height. They didn't deduct back then, but not convinced she could have done them w/ good form. Not a pretty method
@pappysprite I agree with both of you but that is Soviet, specifically Russian, technique. Just about every Soviet female gymnast used this technique. I mean this was still evident up to Dina Kochetkova, Roza Galieva, and Lilia Podkopayeva. It's a nice tall set and the pull their shins over their heads as fast as possible so that it looks like they are rotating in one place. Look at Podkopayeva doing a double back.
she is in Ohio now . . . going this weekend and shes going to do my floor routine...sasha turns 16!! Sasha and the olympics im not sure but i will have to ask hehe! we will see i guess!
I agree. She is wonderful but she is far too powerful to be splitting her knees that far apart. It doesn't bother me so much when Bogi does it because she's so tall and not nearly as strong, but Laschenova always had power to spare.
Oh people, you're all talking about her double tuck with opened legs, the thing is that in 1989 that wasn't considered a mistake...just that.Simple For a gymnast who did all the skills she did, having the legs together was simple...but unnecessary.
It's a deduction, she is supposed to have her legs together. It does look worse, check out Nastia Liukin's double front and then Ivana Hong's and tell me which one is better and looks better. It does help gymnasts rotate faster and that's why they do it- in this case I have heard it is because she was training triple backs and learned bad habits from it.
I heard the same!! She cowboyed so bad!!! However i think its cause she was supposed to pull a triple around at some point which never happpened,, ill bet she did it in practice though
Does anyone know what happened with her and her family's residency here in the states? They were in danger of being deported back in '08, and I can't find any follow up information saying whether they stayed or left.
Thats right tell the innovators and the ones who created the sport basically that they are doing it wrong? I have to disagree I think both are acceptable. It's not a cheat. For the time and the style it works.
really well where does she live now? i know she moved from our gym, but i didnt know where. and yeah she was tough, but she was kinda mean to me. haha , and she always like slapped sasha off the beam. but is sasha thinking about olympics?
I absolute adore her. The only negative is that she does truly cowboy her double backs. It isn't very attractive and I feel true form should be with the knees closer together.
@seisouso I respectfully disagree. She was an incredible gymnast, however back in the 80's she was one of only a few top gymnasts that "cowboyed" her double backs. It truly lacks good form and the only reason gymnasts do that is because it is easier to rotate. Performing appropriate technique is twice as more difficult. When a gymnast "cowboys" their tucks, I believe it is very unflattering and looks sloppy in the air. This routine was bitter-sweet. Great coreography & skills but poor form
Not true pappysprite and I disagree completely. It's much easier for a hand to slip off a knee grabbing over the knee cap than from behind. I could go on but bottom line is its just a different yet effective technique. She threw double straights and full-ins in an open tuck w legs together. Honestly think she couldn't perform a double tuck the way you'd have her perform one? Get over yourself, please...
I think the cowboy double backs are horrible. I love this gymnast, but this has always been her downfall. Not only is it much easier to do a double back in cowboy position, but it is very unattractive.
haha. natalia was my gymnastics coach in camden county georgia. after she moved from new york. Coach Yuri hired her. and then she moved again. which was bad because our gymnastics program was doing good with her coaching and her high skill level. But i wonder whatever happened tp sascha , her daughter. and natalia isnt a soviet, she's russian.
She does more dance in the first few seconds than most gymnasts today do in the entire routine.
Holy cow, that first pass! It's that sort of uber difficulty and creativity that makes me wish they'd allow back-to-back tumbling again. The more I see of Laschenova the more impressed I become.
But it's allowed and and always was. But because in moderm CoP this gives no bonuses, nobody does it.
Slava Ivanov COP says no back to back tumbling , so if a gymnast does a double layout + front tuck step out, back hs double tuck, its not counted because thats Back to back tumbling
Its not allowed anymore?! Does anyone know why?
@@heatherjay843 This is just my opinion, probably they don't want multiple tumblings in a single pass in a four tumbling pass modern floor today as it generates more connection values. More tumblings means more points.
I went to Germany for these championships and got to see this performance twice and just loved it!!!
That's amazing!
Was in Germany to see this in person & Natalia was awesome..........the crowd loved her! This was my favorite floor routine of those championships!
beautiful choreography.
that first pass is gorgeous!
My FAVORITE floor routine of all time, and my pick for World Champion this year. IMO, she should have won Gold instead of Silver at these Worlds in the All Around. She didn't even make the floor finals at these World's! Anyway, Natalia is one of the greatest of all time in my book.
What a legendary gymnast...
Her tumbling is perfectly in rhythm with the music... wow
So is the leap series. My favorite part.
1985-89 were the Golden Years of Gymnastics, I swear.
Amazing routine!!
Even the judges on the other events are watching. :)
Music and sport were about the only things the Soviets did right. Love her!
Music is 'In the Hall of the Mountain King' from Grieg's 'Peer Gynt.'
I love these old routines especially of the Soviet gymnasts. I wish they could make a change to the code of points to allow gymnasts to be more artistic. I find the floor routines now pretty boring and it seems like the music is just afterthought. It's a shame what my favorite sport has become. 😪
I think the only way to make gymnastics artistic again would be to bring compulsories back. That would raise the level in the AA and EF.
Not only beautiful, but epic!
She cowboys her double backs so wide.. It was rumored that she was attempting to train a triple back, which makes sense. Her being able to try a triple back would require massive cowboy to be able to land it, thus the bad habit was created. She was the last gymnast that needed to cowboy for rotation! She had uber power!!!
It made sense how easily she nailed that double layout.
one of the things I don't like about 80's gymnastics is the excessive double tucks. Still, this was an outstanding performance form Laschenova.
very very powerful!
I was fortunate enough to attend these championships in (then) West Germany & this floor routine became my favorite of the competition. Natalia was really sensational and if the stupid "new life" rule hadn't been enacted that year, she would have won the AA as Bouginskaya fell on BB in the team optionals & wouldn't have beaten Natalia's score--back then AA MEANT all-around (in that the team compulsories, optionals & AA scores all counted).
Well she was in the 1988 Olympics... and She did great....
she was my coach in new york!! she was a really great coach tho she was tough. she was always tough on sasha here too . . . sasha was my best friend!!! we pretty much taught her english but boy, did we play with her at first. asking silly questions...and she could respond with the only word she knew...yes! ha ha good times! but im going up to see her and her mom! natalia is going to do my new floor routine!!!
@Darkangel127 I wonder the same thing! I think it might have to do with all the things you have to put in a routine now that there is no room for choreography like this. I miss ARTISTIC gymnastics. The trickster gymnastics we have today is amazing but for a totally different reason.
Natalia is from Latvia, she is a Latvian which cost her 1992 Olympics chance
나딸리아 저 소녀는 88년 서울 올림픽에서 정말 대단했어요❤❤❤❤
Руки балерины, координация акробатки,артистичность актрисы МХАТа!
@AnnaPavlovaFan She should have especially been doing a full-in for her last pass. She almost overrotated the double tuck and could have totally handled a full-in. Start with a bang and end with one, damn it!
@dianajc
yes ... call:
" In the hall of the mountain king"
How you gonna tumble out of a double layout? I’m offended by this. 🤣
See Camilia Voinea’s double layout punchfront in 1987!
@pappysprite You didn't understand my point.I know that doing it with the legs opened is easier, but she only did it that way because in those days that was not considered a mistake, as it is today. I'm very sure she could do it with the legs together but the effort was unecessary.
Boguinskaya and Silivas at that same worlds, both got 10s...with the same "bad execution" on the double tuck.Many people here are questioning her bad form, but the thing is that in 89 that was considered perfect.
Cowboy Queen 😍
Effortless power 🥰
The result could have gone either way. I had Boguinskaia by .05. If only Laschenova could have cleaned up her beam dismount a bit, or at least not had any wobbles in the interior of the exercise.
Does any video exist of Natalia's triple-back training? Even if she is training them into a pit- I would love to see any hidden Soviet footage.
I know her daughter, Sasha!(:
haha. natalia was my gymnastics coach in camden county georgia. after she moved from new york. Coach Yuri hired her. and then she moved again. which was bad because our gymnastics program was doing good with her coaching and her high skill level. But i wonder whatever happened tp sascha , her daughter. and natalia isnt a soviet, she's russian.
Russians were Soviets before the Soviet Union broke up in the early 90's. Her daughter just won level 10 nationals.
@AnnaPavlovaFan I totally agree...and again she "cowboys" the double backs, which unfotunately is not good form. Nonetheless, she was an awesome gymnast.
I DID understand your point. Go back and review the 1989 worlds and listen to the commentators like Bart Conner. They specifically highlighted they were not very pretty. The idea she could have had her knees closer if she wanted to, is something I don't agree with. Boguinskaya did the same technique however like someone else pointed out, you can expect that from her given her height. They didn't deduct back then, but not convinced she could have done them w/ good form. Not a pretty method
Does anyone know the reason for why they stopped allowing back to back tumbling?
kamila Ford it’s pretty munch an individual sport. No synchronized or team tumbling routines, so there cannot be any gymnasts standing back to back.
@@HotMessMemories1 Now it's a deduction since there is no choreo between passes (stupid, ikr!
Misógina internalizada Opresora héteropatriarcal who are calling Stupid? I’m going to go in the corner and cry now. Bye.
@@HotMessMemories1 Sorry, I'm not nativa english speaker
I tried to mean that the deduction for back 2 back was stupid
@@misoginainternalizadaopres7131 Queen
oh. well are you in her gym now.
i was in her gym in camden county georgia.
yeah sasha is good, her mom was always rough on her !
@pappysprite I agree with both of you but that is Soviet, specifically Russian, technique. Just about every Soviet female gymnast used this technique. I mean this was still evident up to Dina Kochetkova, Roza Galieva, and Lilia Podkopayeva. It's a nice tall set and the pull their shins over their heads as fast as possible so that it looks like they are rotating in one place. Look at Podkopayeva doing a double back.
she is in Ohio now . . . going this weekend and shes going to do my floor routine...sasha turns 16!! Sasha and the olympics im not sure but i will have to ask hehe! we will see i guess!
I agree. She is wonderful but she is far too powerful to be splitting her knees that far apart. It doesn't bother me so much when Bogi does it because she's so tall and not nearly as strong, but Laschenova always had power to spare.
Oh people, you're all talking about her double tuck with opened legs, the thing is that in 1989 that wasn't considered a mistake...just that.Simple
For a gymnast who did all the skills she did, having the legs together was simple...but unnecessary.
It's a deduction, she is supposed to have her legs together. It does look worse, check out Nastia Liukin's double front and then Ivana Hong's and tell me which one is better and looks better. It does help gymnasts rotate faster and that's why they do it- in this case I have heard it is because she was training triple backs and learned bad habits from it.
I heard the same!! She cowboyed so bad!!! However i think its cause she was supposed to pull a triple around at some point which never happpened,, ill bet she did it in practice though
They live in Ohio, Natalia coaches, and Sasha is on the Bridgeport team!
Does anyone know what happened with her and her family's residency here in the states? They were in danger of being deported back in '08, and I can't find any follow up information saying whether they stayed or left.
Idk what happened but she lives in the us now
me neither, but it was the scoring system, once the 10 had been reached there was no point doing anything more...
I find her cowboy tucked saltos (same as Shushunova) to be aesthetically unpleasing.
Wasn't she supposed to compete the first triple back by a woman on floor?
Shouldn’t she have a deduction for (over)using the same skill three times?
Thats right tell the innovators and the ones who created the sport basically that they are doing it wrong? I have to disagree I think both are acceptable. It's not a cheat. For the time and the style it works.
really well where does she live now? i know she moved from our gym,
but i didnt know where.
and yeah she was tough, but she was kinda mean to me.
haha , and she always like slapped sasha off the beam. but is sasha thinking about olympics?
totally agree she can do a doublelayout,,, but has to cowboy a double tuck UMMM NO
I absolute adore her. The only negative is that she does truly cowboy her double backs. It isn't very attractive and I feel true form should be with the knees closer together.
@seisouso I respectfully disagree. She was an incredible gymnast, however back in the 80's she was one of only a few top gymnasts that "cowboyed" her double backs. It truly lacks good form and the only reason gymnasts do that is because it is easier to rotate. Performing appropriate technique is twice as more difficult. When a gymnast "cowboys" their tucks, I believe it is very unflattering and looks sloppy in the air. This routine was bitter-sweet. Great coreography & skills but poor form
Not true pappysprite and I disagree completely. It's much easier for a hand to slip off a knee grabbing over the knee cap than from behind. I could go on but bottom line is its just a different yet effective technique. She threw double straights and full-ins in an open tuck w legs together. Honestly think she couldn't perform a double tuck the way you'd have her perform one? Get over yourself, please...
I think the cowboy double backs are horrible. I love this gymnast, but this has always been her downfall. Not only is it much easier to do a double back in cowboy position, but it is very unattractive.
haha. natalia was my gymnastics coach in camden county georgia. after she moved from new york. Coach Yuri hired her. and then she moved again. which was bad because our gymnastics program was doing good with her coaching and her high skill level. But i wonder whatever happened tp sascha , her daughter. and natalia isnt a soviet, she's russian.
She's Latvian