POLYEND PLAY Review // How it raises the groovebox bar // Top pros, cons, 16 factory songs, tutorial
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TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
1:35 Overview
6:20 Connectivity
7:45 Project scope
8:15 Song mode
8:55 Variations
9:55 Sample pool
11:25 Sequencing
11:55 Pick & place
13:55 Keyboard view
14:15 Select & adjust
16:35 “Control all”
17:15 Session save
18:15 Live rec
19:15 Automation
21:00 Sample packs
23:00 Fill
26:00 Chance
28:40 Randomize
31:45 Repeats
33:15 Play modes
34:00 Speed/Pause
35:40 Perform
38:50 Scenes
39:30 MIDI tracks
43:30 Master FX
46:10 Sound design
47:50 Misc settings
49:05 Pros & cons
53:25 Factory songs
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Great review as always! The granular control you get from Polyend devices is amazing!
Amazing what of a product specialist and musician loopop is. Always a joy to watch. And very helpful when you buy a product.
I don't even care if i can't afford any of this, i just love watching your vids, they make me happy just the way you cover everything. thanks for all you do, loopop!!! you're the goat of music tutorials!!!
Thanks for taking the time to write!
This is not just a great review but also an excellent tutorial and reference. Thanks!
Just want to say that I love all your videos and reference them all the time as video manuals / how to guides when i’m playing with gear at home. I love how comprehensive these videos are, and they’re so organized + clear about what is happening and why. If I made synths I’d legit pay you to just do what you do with these videos and have that be the actual product manual. Hope you get more into modular in the future too, some modules need this level of documentation :)
Thanks for taking the time to write :)
This is the best video on using the PLAY that exists! So good that I'm joining the Patreon because of it. Great work as usual! (Enjoyed the syntakt video as well) -- Buying way too much gear because of loopop!
Thanks very much!
Your tutorials and overviews are INDISPENSABLE!! Loopop. Thank you! Thank you!
Glad you like them!
Great introduction to the Play's features. This is a good video to watch for those new to their Play and want to get a good handle on what it can do.
Thank you loopop for this demonstration you have provided me a better understanding on how to use my play.
Seems fun, and a lot of people will make cool stuff with it. I like that they've expanded the live tweaking features of the tracker as that was something unique in that device.
This is pretty amazing groovebox magic.
Like the grid features and ways to modify the playback. Love the music at the end.
It's really amazing to see how Polyend managed to marry the best features from the step-sequencer world with their expertise from engineering the Tracker (fill, randomize, select + copy, undo, perform, ...). I even guess that there are some features on Play which only make sense if you worked with the Tracker before. Which is wonderful, since it adds innovations you wouldn't come up with without that 'niche' Tracker expertise
I've watched a slew of your videos, and how you remember all this stuff is mind boggling to me.
He uses a script; it’s one of the main things that separates good TH-cam channels from bad
Yeah! Finally!!
An hour later.
Thank you sir so much for your deep review.
In terms of the pros and cons I'm fully agreed to the end.
However I'd like to see one more function like : "learn my style".
Anyway after this lecture I have to say I can play on Polyend Play. LOL
It's time to pick up one.
Thanks for the review! I have been waiting to buy a groovebox for years, and I think after watching this I'm still gonna go with the Deluge. Their latest update has given me pretty much all the features I want.
I’m in the same reflection
@@NicleT Me 2
I owned Deluge for a while and its overall manageability seemed horrible to me (I care much more about interface than about features). This one seems to be more manageable, or is it just loopop’s mastery in doing the reviews makes me think so?
Congratulations to Polyend!- each of their product is better than the previous one.
Thank you Miki!
Oh yeah! Thank you for the review Loopop!
Lovely as always. This is on the top of my list. It will be great if I can map knobs to my AS-1 for a little more programing access and performance. Thanks as always for your well balanced view.
Just ordered Mine.. can't wait.. thank you For your deep dive./.
I love your videos. Such a present to be able to learn new skills from your vids. Thanks!
Just received mine. Glad to have this tutorial. While not as complex many “boxes,” it is not as intuitive as many of the TH-cam reviewers say. One needs the manual and then some. In my first Project, there was not enough memory to download the Acoustic Piano sample pack. Since many of the features work best when the user can download the entire sample pack, that was immediately frustrating. Parts of the pack were usable, but it was unclear as to what samples I did not have access to. There is a way to download individual samples, but it is not that straightforward or intuitive. With that being said, the customer service person at Polyend was responsive and helpful. That person said the issues were going to be addressed in a firmware update. It is a blessing and a bane to get the Play so soon😊. Despite the mentioned issues, the Play is the most unique and useful product like this I have ever used. I will be able to spend less time with equipment and more time recording music.
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Great review and wow, this groovebox is very interesting.
Really appreciate this video, more useful for me than Polyend's own tutorial. Thanks
this is absolutely fantastic in my opinion. the generative features seems like a lot of fun!
Really enjoyed this video! You made this device look super fun and creative. It’s probably not something I will likely buy, but can see how someone like Bogdan Raczynski would use this in a live setting to make some crazy music
After watching this and other TH-cam videos I decided to go ahead and add one of these to my small collection of instruments. My Polyend Play arrived this morning and since then I have been trying out a few ideas. After searching the Polyend Play online user manual for how to do or setup certain functions without much success, I remembered this video. Within minutes, with guidance from loopop, I had found exactly the things I wanted and with a bit of logic I worked out a couple of others. Having watched this and other loopop videos I would like to congratulate him for such well presented reviews.
My pleasure, thanks for taking the time to write
Wow! A SiparioX! I just bought the smaller one and I’ve been surprised at how good it is. The Play looks really good. The chance option is a game changer though… if it’s what I think it is. I think the price is actually really competitive. I can’t wait to get one of these. It might be the first piece of “new” gear I’ve purchased in 10 years. I really wish it had Link compatibility. I still have this at the top of my list.
Just recently recieved a used Medusa in immaculate condition and it sounds and feels amazing. This unit isn't really for me, but if has been designed and built anything like the Medusa then I'm sure it will be amazing for the people it is for. Great review and demo as always. Cheers!
Congrats - the Medusa is awesome despite the bad press. Even nicer paired with a Tracker. Have fun!
Here from Benn Jordans shout-out. Excellent job! Thank you!!
man the sound u got at 1:03 after turning the cutoff down was an insane idea for a track, that bassline was deep af
Very nice review as always ....and a lovely groovebox with some interesting tricks up its sleeve...... but not yet selling my Deluge, which just keeps getting better and better ;-)
Thanks for the great review. I just bought one to go along with my other sequencer - Arturia Keystep Pro. This covers both my analog and digital synths along with a Behringer RD-8 drum machine for live performance. Love it.
ok I just caved. bought a polyend play. checking video again heheh
I think this might be my next purchase haha damn they got me again. Pairing this with the tracker might just hold some live performance gold. Overall im excited to see where this Play machine goes with future updates
I think that it's important to note the fact that Loopop mentioned that you can play polyphonic chords per midi track which specifically translates to 30 overlapping midi notes at one time -per track -per clip . Will be great for sequencing external gear.
It is, i am sequencing entire hardware setup (20+different synths, machines and effects) via Polyend Play and Tracker, with little help from the Octatrack. Granted, most of the times I sequence Analog Rytm via Program change messages, so patterns have been programmed on the machine itself, but there is enough place to do sequencing from the Play if I wanted to). With few firmware updates focused on MIDI, this will be , and already is, a monster master sequencer. I hardly use it's audio engine. I think a big deal would be adding few notes (yes there is a chord option and they covered it with tons of variations but still I would like to be able to dial in say, up to 4-5 notes I want in one step, just like OT MIDI). Another super cool thing here is all this generative stuff, Eucledian sequencing etc.
@@earlsfield I don't own this device, but am interested in it to sequence external gear. I am not sure I get it, but is there some limitation for midi notes per step, and if so, when? I assume you can record chords played live into one lane/track, or is that not the case? As in, to keep chords in one track per step, do you need to use the predefined chords? If you want to use Chords outside of this, then each note take up a lane/track?
@@zenithjcoke Hi, sorry for the late reply. As of the latest FW version, it is not possible to record multiple notes in ONE step of the track, if you are playing 5 note chord, you will need to enable recording on 5 tracks for that step - however, you can enable "chord" function per step or per track, and you can choose to add any chord from the list into a single step, with inversions and all. However, you cannot record a say, 7 note chord played on external keyboard into one step of the track. However, since PLAY can send multiple notes in chord mode, I am sure that the future FW will allow for multi note input per step. While this may sound limiting, I've been using this for a while now, and rarely have an issue with using chord from the menu vs playing the chords in. I guess it very much depends on the type of music you want to sequence. I use Play with Tracker (which adds extra 8 tracks/notes you can record into) and Octatrack, so these 3 machines are my "sequencer", with that I trigger patterns on OT via program change on Play. Same with Analog Rytm etc, I do not want to loose flexibility of Elektron sequencers - so I combine Play sequencing with Elektron sequencing, and it gets even more generative and unique. Hope this helps.
@@earlsfield thank you for a thorough insight, I really appreciate it! My plan is to potentially use a Play in combination with an Akai Force and an MC-707, both of which are less capable when it comes to generative sequencing. In my head I would like the Play to be the main sequencer and send midi to the other devices mostly (I want to keep the workflow easy, especially when going from one track to the other). While the list of chords to pick from seems vast, something about having to pick from a list rather that inputting it via keys just makes it seem less intuitive and fun. Could go the route of sequencing those parts on one of the other units, but that defeats my want for a one-sequencer-solution. I'll keep an eye on FW updates. Thanks again for the info!
@@zenithjcoke As i said, while it might wound limiting, and while I prefer entering my own chords, I actually do so when I want to - I rarely use more than 5 notes in a chord - and also, don't forget - Play's "tracks" are not hard wired, so to speak. So let's have an example - you sequence Akai force and MC-707 via program changes, that's two tracks. In case you want extra hit here or there, you can choose one extra track to trigger random or generative notes on multiple midi tracks, depending where you want to sent those notes. Also, due to micro timing, even if some events overlap, you can always add event on a step prior to the one you want and then "push" it via micro tune (the trick I use on elektron gear all the time). Also, as I said, guys at Polyend are really offering tons of chords, and I don't feel as if my prophet 10, Jupiter 6, Super6, OB6, REV2, Evolver, are loosing any of their poly - powers. Actually i sequence multiple layers of bi-timbral poly synths like Prophet 10 and REV2 using this setup. So, while there are certain sequencers out there than maybe have a feature or two more when it comes to poly input, let's not forget that Play wasn't intended to be only the sequencer - and knowing Polyend and their exp. with sequencing gear, I am sure we will get amazing updates, like record multiple notes, midi performance etc. The device is fairly new and they just have released new FW that is more "general" and "housekeeping", as well as increasing immediacy of use. The main thing to remember here is that any step can be routed to any instrument, so it totally breaks the concept of tracks, IF you want it to. I will soo release a video on this, on how I sequence gear via Play. Will ping you once uploaded.
Absolutely my favourite groovebox/sequencer on the market. Gone through quite a few up until this point. The workflow is fun, creative and easy to produce fairly deep songs. The price is right IMO.
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45:26 the sidechain option is brilliant! It would be cool if it could be set per pattern - so you don't have to have _sidechain from Track 5_ for the whole project but only for the patterns that actually have a kick in Track 5
Sidechain is super good on this, those hard kicks can get very punchy ;)
Haha, love that intro 😎 “Hey” @0:00 ♪🕺♬ 💃 ♪
A sincere thank you for all the amazing reviews that you make. I’ve learned so much from watching your videos and it has inspired me to delve back into making music again.
My pleasure and great!
Phenomenally done. Thank you!
Thanks for the review interesting Groovebox so much choice now.
now i’m sure to have one, thanks loopop!
This looks seriously good, considering selling my Maschine + to get one…your videos are just the best
The variations feature makes this (once programed) an easy, endless, Tecno/dance music source.
As always....perfect review...
I only found this today via BoBeats Superbooth 22 walk about, I was very excited
by this groovebox and was pleased to find your excellent review. You have inspired me to buy a NDLR
and a Korg Minilogue XD so far. I think this will be the third unit I will purchase influenced by your review.
Although it is not yet available in the UK 😑
It is, check with Signal Sounds UK
One of the best Nubass demos that I’ve seen 😃
36:15 is it possible to have an effect only active (temporary) while you're holding the button WITHOUT a long press? Sometimes you don't want an effect to be on for long and when you release the button too early it even stays on... Maybe something like shift+effect or select+effect could work?
Wow … no 1 on my to buy list … great for my upcoming live act
Great as always. I love the tracker and this is def something to consider. Disappointing about not being able to sample in....
And no sample slicing 🙄
Firmware? Or am I dumb, is that something that can be done later 😂😅
@@robertminnis6540 it can
It is called PLAY not RECORD ;)
Anything aside from a hardware update could be addressed in a future firmware update. Polyend is great at adding new features to their products over the life of them. I'm just happy I can bring my entire sample library into Play and I don't mind having to plug in a USB drive to transfer.
i already thought you were working overtime with the korg/roland double drop the other day. then i saw this beauty and all its knobs!
Thanks and indeed it has been a crazy week…
Its superbooth, the most busy time for audio equipment youtubers
@@loopop doesn’t help TE dropped the TX-6 and the OP-1 Field. I do hope you’ve had some sleep!
I want to love Polyend, but I've never had a clean experience with any of their devices that I've owned. That includes Tracker and Medusa. There have been bugs a plenty in the firmware. As slick as the hardware can be, I had button sticking issues with both the Tracker and Medusa. The included power supply with the Tracker led to hanging issues and after rebooting from one hang, which required disconnecting the power supply, I lost all my projects. There may have been a language barrier, but their technical support was curt and uncaring. They said something to the effect of "Try another power supply. Backup your work more often."
After that, I haven't been tempted to try something new from them.
I asked them today what was the reason of not including cv or gate? Answer: what are those … jokingly. Okay. Battery? Use a powerbank. Kind of ignoring you as if you were dumb.
This is sooo good!
46:28 it would be very useful if the current waveform could be displayed while editing it, so you can visually set the sample-start and sample-end to the actual sample start/end without having to listen for clicks or moments silence. Would be helpful when setting the fading options (fade in / fade out) as well.
yeah, im pretty sure they'd put it but i think it's a c.p.u. problem
I'll will get this for the sequencer alone not bothered about sampling i have an mpc live for that. I'm certain i'll have a ball having this sequence all my hardware. i'll be making way more songs with it for sure.
Holy hell I need this now! Thanks Loopop !
Very cool. Like this one now.
Thank you Ziv!
I've been doing well in my GAS therapy program. Until now. The lack of ability to sample is not a deal breaker for me as I am not a fan. That's the beauty of this space. There's something for everyone. But there's only one loopop. Well done sir.
While I really love an upgraded version of the Polyend Seq, I wish it could a) sample directly via audio in and b) do stereo samples. I guess I will wait for the Polyend Play II then before I replace my Seq and my 1010 Blackbox- and hope the Play II also gets a 32 step-interface instead of 16 😉
Forunately, the effects are stero so that should counter some of your concern. Play is a 16 x 64 step sequencer by the way. Additionally, it features timing options both traditional and unique that make it "feel" like much more than 64 steps.
Two questions can you record in perform mode and in midi when using the akai force can l assign up to 8 tracks.
loopop based on a lot of comments I'm seeing here, you need to make pros & cons on the top sequencers (~ 1000$) on the market today e.g. Deluge, Hapax, OXI one and the Polyend Play . I can't, decided too much options ...
This is the video I need! I'd like to see the Torso T-1 in the comparison. Mostly interested in generative sequencing features.
Throw in the Akai Force... It has a lot of software bugs, but if you can work past them it is the best "all-in-one" machine on the market right now; If they stop adding features and just tighten it up, it is unbeatable compared to everything else that is out there right now.
M8 Tracker makes a solid sequencer in my opinion. Especially for fleshing out entire songs. No performance mode though
I’ve got the Oxi, play, T-1, MPC X, and Pyramid. They’re all better or worse at different styles. Oxi is great for finding new chords, esp wired up to the three voices on an Acid Rain Chainsaw. T1 makes some interesting rhythms but I tend to end up making the same kinds of things on it. MPC feels the most like a DAW and I end up reading a lot to figure out how to do something. The Pyramid I feel like I haven’t spent enough time with, as the euclidean features are cool but it doesn’t really inspire me. I wish Elektron made a straight sequencer with no internal voices that does what they do but for midi and modular gear. I always end up with something inspiring playing with the Rytm.
anyway, get one used and sell it for what you paid if you don’t get on with it after serious attempts to learn and understand it.
The Deluge makes its own sound with several types of synthesis and it samples external gear. Play just plays your samples you have made on the computer and makes no sound of its own, and sequences. Hapax does even less, just sequencing other things and making no sound at all.
Damn... I own Synthstrom Deluge and love it. Wish it had a snapshot feature like this one. Great for live performance.
Hi is it possible to move all tracks simultaneously from one chord (or degree within a given scale) to another with a single touch of a button in real time like the OXi one can manage?
So say in A Phrygian from ii-v-i for example
Seems Deluge is still the KING 👑 for me... especially with the new firmware.
However, this looks like quite a capable device. If only you could do live sampling...
Definitely have to agree. This thing looks awesome but I still love my Deluge. Glad to see more devices using a grid layout for sequencing though. It's interesting to see different companies take a unique spin on it.
somehow that hugs lcd seems only the slightest bit more informative
Yup, audio over USB would have sold me but Deluge is still the king of the hill, even though I prefer the digitone thanks to overbridge.
Isn't it like 300USD + shipping and taxes more expensive? Not really the same league but sure Deluge is better. I feel like Polyend will add a lot with updates as with Tracker and Medusa. Medusa has FM synth so I would love to see the same thing copied to Play :)
There may be a few things that this does better, but the Deluge has so much more functionality it's not even a fair comparison.
Thank you for this video. It shall be my reference when my play arrives. A quick few questions that I hope you might be able to answer. How well does this run off laptop usb? Will it run off a synth usb (I hope to plug it direct by usb into my Jupiter-Xm)? Does it play well as a controller for Ableton? Can I use the midi to sequence my plugin drums? Cheers
Hello, just started the video so I’ll try to watch everything but is there a way to add track delay beyond just swing? And is there an efficient way to bounce stems so I can further mangle the loops by hand in a daw? Thank you!
Yes, you can add track delay by changing the micro timing. There’s no way to bounce stems currently
@@loopop thanks loop! But they do at least have project exports? Or what’s the best way to get your grooves into a daw?
@@Alckemy Unfortunately the only way I can think of to get your music into a daw is to either record the whole thing, or multi track manually one pass per track
@@loopop I think even exporting the whole thing as a percussive loop would be fine. Thanks so much for the insight as it's a big investment. Idm is something I'm no stranger to but doing it with a mouse and keyboard gets old sometimes. with this I'm considering at least having a new jump off point to get into the daw and start building tracks around the percussion.
I fell asleep to your video last night about 40 minutes in (it was 4 am) so finishing now. Thanks so much for taking the time to respond
Great! Many thanks!
Thankyou! Great review/guide. You're really great at this. Always a pleasure. But thankyou for illustrating the nuances..eg chance and rando and how saving randomisations The tip re slowing down the track with chords really makes its smoother and pushes back on the 64 step limit. And manual suggests rando notes across an octave with scale filter for instant melodic generation. Lot going on but it clicks together as you learn another bit.
Depth over width really works for me because I don't need another sampler and means it upcycles all my existing stuff from anything with a zen engine to maschine expansion packs. Workflow is slick intuitive, very immediate, generative and rewarding - unmatched in terms of applied design. Pricing is a bit spicy. Suddenly interested in a tracker, wait NO! , Aaarghhhhj!!!!
Just like Novation's circuit tracks+rythm, ima hold out until Polyend can combine the tracker with this.
Great video, thanks again!. Just wondering about a future setup, the polyend Play and the 1010Music Blackbox. I guess I could hook-up the BB via MIDI out and have the Play trigger pads on the BB on the 8 MIDI tracks. That would give me extra tracks and longer samples and a somewhat portable sampler. Maybe there other uses with this combo, I haven't checked. But if this where possible, can you use the Chords function on the Play with a single piano sample on the BB?
Have you tried this setup yet? Indeed, a single piano note sample on the BB is fine for playing chords as long as you set its pad to be polyphonic. And you probably realized by now that even though there are only 8 "tracks", the Play does everything per-step, so you could easily sequence more than 8 MIDI channels in one pattern.
it looks like it could be very useful if you could set a color for the sample you're placing in a pattern. That way you could distinguish multiple different samples in the same track from each other.
Can you not?
Very cool. My Tracker isn’t going anywhere; I’ve become too good at it! It is an INSTRUMENT!
I bet the Play would be awesome with a Bass Station II & a JU-06A
Interesting machine but where is all the sampling functionality? Can you view sample wav files for setting start/end points? Can it loop forward/reverse? Does it timestretch?
Question: when using an external keyboard, can you sequence chords for midi, or are you stuck on selecting the desired chord first?
you can but then you'll be "wasting" three/four tracks instead of one
eurorack noob here. would this work as a control unit for eurorack with let's say the polyend poly 2? i mean could it take care of a basimilus, a piston honda and some other stuff in this combination? if so, would you recommend the combo?
Can it melodic step record from an external midi keyboard, like the tracker can?
Looks pretty great for performing dance music and the UI is clean. Gonna stick with deluge for now tho.
Comprehensive one! I wonder if we can finger drumming on grid pads like mpc style? I've seen it in the video but not sure how to do it to react it like sample triggering option. Any tips guys? 💫👍
Nice I found the variation mode on the tr6 incuraged me to made where as gear with pattern change alone doesn't have the same effect I love the grid on medusa but found if you tried anything complex it would quickly sound off but looks like they've really got something with this sequencer am close to pulling the trigger on one of these
Just got on and love it however I'm having issues loading packs. I get an unspecified error. Also regarding samples, I seem to have a ton of samples that begin with ._ that are not on my SD that make a terrible noise when previewed. These are obviously not the real samples but why are they there and how can I get rid of them? Have already emailed Polyend for a link to the factory SD card settings.
Has there ever been a better time to buy a groovebox? I own the AKAI Force, which I love, but I would own all these machines if I could.
seems like the perfect device flavour between hapax and deluge ^^
The mental gymnastics to use this is over the top. 15min into the video and I'm already mentally exhausted!
This is the first time I've never watched a Loopop video all the way through 😔
I might have missed it, but can it import instruments made with the Tracker?
I just ordered a Squarp Pyramid but it's still in backorder. Should I cancel my order if I can and get this instead? I like the idea of having a groovebox and sequencer in one device.
Thanks for this Loopop, did you say if you can record input from the perform page into a pattern?
Do you know how much it matters how you name subfolders in a custom sample pack? I know that the Play uses the folder names to help create beat patterns but I saw some sample packs had different names for the same kind of folders (snare vs. snares for example). Other than Kick, Snare, and HiHats, does it matter what I name my subfolders in a pack?
No, but if you ask the company please write back here!
hello loopop and thanks for the video! I might have missed it - but is there some sort of warp more for the samples and if so, is it good? more like ableton of more like the MC 707? thank you :)
My pleasure and no, no warp mode
Looks like a ton of fun for what it's offering right out of the gate. I know PolyEnd supports their products like crazy so I don't doubt over time this will have a bunch more features added. I really hope we would see some sort of track export tho. What a shame to come up with all these cool patterns and not be able to export them out as stems. Im sure it will come at some point. Also, have to say PolyEnd always does a great job with their sample selections. The stock samples always sound so so good. Love PolyEnd. Such a cool company.
The hardware looks super nice, and it's got some great sequencing capabilities - I had been wondering if this would replace my Deluge - nope. I was excited for this device, but for me at least, the Deluge still has the edge... A Deluge with a screen would be nice though!
Top video Loopop. You're the king of gear videos!!!
"Super nice" hardware? It offers no physical I/O beyond the absolute minimum (and omission of any audio input is "below the minimum").
This is a saddening design trend that can't end soon enough.
@@shaft9000 I should clarify - I mean the look of the unit, not the hardware features. As I said, I think the Deluge beats it in most regards. But I guess I just like the design of the Play. The IO of it is very disappointing! It's really not for me.
Deluge now has a real screen as of today! Old models can even be retrofitted but it’s gonna cost $149, plus if you’re not in a couple select countries, will also require shipping it to New Zealand, I think? And if you don’t have the original import paperwork or bought it second hand, you’ll get hit with a (or another) import fee! But an OLED Deluge is finally a reality!
@@dreamsaremaps yeah man, it looks super nice. The old display was mostly ok, but loading and naming samples was a bit shit... But with an OLED display, i think the Deluge is just unbeatable. Even though the play is cheaper, I think the Deluge just kills it for features.
I can't wait to get mine updated (I still can't believe that Synthstrom are offering this service - it's unheard of in synth manufacturers!)
I want to order this but can't afford to preorder right now. If I wait until the July release does anyone know if they will have stock?
This would be my first piece of music equipment so I don't know how initial stock typically works with products like this.
Thanks!
can i use this for working outside my DAW. i make 80s rock with real instruments but want to get awway from my daw (too much screen time from my day job). im debating between this and something like akai force.
Can you switch the preview sound off for live play?
Can melodic samples be loaded as a "multi sample instrument"? For instance, Where a melodic sample folder could be loaded, and the melodic keyboard is based on multisamples (and not just pitch+/- one sample)
This looks like fun. Few cv outs would've been welcomed if I were being picky. Ordered 👍
50:29 - I feel that. This could be solved on software side, when there was an option to disable the select-on-touch functionality and only switch to the parameter when you start to rotate a knob or when one of the two buttons on the left side of the display is held while touching a knob.
After some days of playing with the polyend play I can tell that the alternative ideas I've mentioned wouldn't work well, since most of the time you have to hold some white pads as well and you only have two hands (you can't be in 3 areas at the same time). Maybe polyend could implement some kind of "debounce" delay to the knobs, so you only switch to a different setting, if you didn't touch any knob for a few hundred milliseconds.
This way you wouldn't accidentally double-tap a knob by just changing your grip on it - and you wouldn't accidentally switch to a palm-touched knob that easily, while fiddling with a finger-touched knob.
Certainly more accessible than the Tracker but the ratio of controls to square centimeters is nuts. Ideal for capsule hotels. EDIT: nice review-man and machine all the same.
I think compared with MPC One or Squarp Hapax, why should one pick up one of these?
Are the MIDI tracks polyphonic, can you sequence/record more than one note on the same step?