Honda K20 vs K24: Which One is Better?

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    As we’ve discussed in previous videos, the K-Series is arguably the best four-cylinder engine Honda has ever produced. It offers a massive amount of potential for both naturally aspirated and boosted builds, with massive amounts of aftermarket support. Even with the popularity of the K-Series engine, a lot of people don’t know if they should swap a K20 or a K24 in their car, so today we’re going to break it down and see which one is better.
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  • @King_Kong_Ek9
    @King_Kong_Ek9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2138

    Dude, we drive Honda’s, pricing is always an issue 😂😂

    • @dangerranger5731
      @dangerranger5731 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Juan Rodríguez..... well put 🤣

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      The struggle is real 😭

    • @roneman20
      @roneman20 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Juan Rodríguez I’m sick lol 😂

    • @DirtyWopBastard
      @DirtyWopBastard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Speak for yourself. Some of us have the cheddar but just love hondas

    • @JDMHMONGBOY96
      @JDMHMONGBOY96 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Speak for yourself dude. You think all these nicely built Honda’s got poor owners? Nice parts aren’t cheap.

  • @codyc5787
    @codyc5787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +347

    The real question... gallo 20 or gallo 24

    • @KDD8
      @KDD8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I live my life one cheese burger at a time, no lettuce, tomatoes, and pickles are free

    • @Key_low_TV
      @Key_low_TV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The movie predicted the k20 and the k24

    • @cheddarcheese8945
      @cheddarcheese8945 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hakasauars I give my wife a quarter inch at a time ...for those ten seconds or less I’m free lol

    • @KDD8
      @KDD8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cheddarcheese8945 HAHAHHAHAHA

    • @toddlaplanteVT85
      @toddlaplanteVT85 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cheddarcheese8945 Gold

  • @griplimit
    @griplimit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +336

    I always felt that a K20 is best for boosted applications and K24 is best for N/A applications. K20 has slightly more cylinder thickness which helps block integrity good for lots of boost and revs higher which is good for a wider power band on boost, and the k24 has extra capacity which helps give a meatier mid range for all motor setups and a potential for higher compression due more stroke.

    • @great4ever845
      @great4ever845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So is it the k20 that revs to 9.2k rpm ?

    • @RealLeskot
      @RealLeskot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@great4ever845 Stock? No. In stock form, F20C from honda s2000 revs to 9k.
      It is proven you can make K rev this high, but it is adviced to make some upgrades.

    • @johnmitchell2269
      @johnmitchell2269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Turbochargers love more displacement though. Having more air go in makes sense when you have longer connecting rods to push up and down. Not only that, but turbocharged configurations are better with lower compression ratio. Given that K24's have a lower compression ratio than K20's do, I'd say a boosted K24 would be more reliable (stronger) than a boosted K20

    • @k24accord25
      @k24accord25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@great4ever845 u could do a50 degree bc cam gear and a type a oil pump 💯😌

    • @kensmechanicalaffair
      @kensmechanicalaffair ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@great4ever845 The K24 modified can spin up to 10grand.

  • @TrichbeeT
    @TrichbeeT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +904

    K20: Im better
    K24: Nah, im better
    F22: *hold* *my* *Vtec*

    • @82raptor
      @82raptor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I owned two of those engines! I had a K-20 in my RSX type S and the F-22-A1 in my 91 accord. My F-22 was modified but my 00 accord F-23-A1 was HEAVILY modified cranking out 300 hp NA!

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      I don't understand this comment, the K series destroys the F22, unless you're talking about the F22C1, which isn't significantly different from the K series engines, except that it has less aftermarket support.

    • @jonthecowboy
      @jonthecowboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I own a k20 si and a f22 accord 4th gen. The f22 has more torque 😥, but the k20 is way more fun and faster

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jonthecowboy More torque? Compared to what version of the K20? But, yeah, the K20 is going to be faster, because the amount of torque that an engine makes doesn't really mean anything.

    • @jonthecowboy
      @jonthecowboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PistonAvatarGuy yeah it's just odd having little torque the k20 civic is a quick ass car for how cheap and stuff but the f22a4 has more lb-ft than the k20z6

  • @vasiliusmaximus2256
    @vasiliusmaximus2256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I would say that are probably the best 4 cylinder engines ever made. Best blend of reliability,tuning potential and price. No wonder they are swapped in everything.aftermarket is also huge for these engines.

  • @silverrain99205
    @silverrain99205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    I don’t drive a Honda. I just wanted to learn more lol

  • @arginpetrosian5147
    @arginpetrosian5147 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    K24 Heads have relatively poor flow, I believe the intake valves are smaller. Also, you guys didn't mention but there's a golden nugget K24 that had a crankshaft with fully weighted counter weights and improved block webbing, as well as other small improvements all around. I'm referring to the 06+ TSX's K24A2. The Odyssey and Element blocks are pretty comparable but the 06+ TSX crank is the superior part. The head also has slightly more aggressive cams but they're still hindered by the lack of flow potential from the valves. Yes the counter weights make the crank a few pounds heavier, but the high end vibration stability is a well worth trade off, plus its not like a good 8-10 lbs flywheel wont counteract the extra rotational mass/ inertia.
    If you grab a K20Z1 RSX-S Head and slap it onto a 06+ K24A2 TSX block, you've got the best combination possible. Throw some cams, springs/retainers, Pistons/Rods, along with a tune and 250+ whp is easily possible, if not pretty casual now lol

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thanks for watching 👊🏻

    • @ulisesavila2879
      @ulisesavila2879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Bro everything is alright except the head airflow part. It flows the same as the k20a2/z3

    • @philtitus7860
      @philtitus7860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      K24A2 out of 06+ tsx also had larger valves to increase flow along with the larger throttle body

    • @foxamus513banger6
      @foxamus513banger6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a k24a2 bottom and k20a2 head with turbo and just above 600hp

    • @turbone54
      @turbone54 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@foxamus513banger6 the shit he said is false. the k24 head does not have poor flow and is practically identical to k20 head

  • @crashmanjones7286
    @crashmanjones7286 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Love your breakdowns man! Very informative and love your pace and delivery. No fluff or BS. Excellent stuff!

  • @lucky9er567
    @lucky9er567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Been wanting to build an ef hatch for almost 20 years. A couple years ago I finally got the car for a good price and just last week I got a salvaged 2013 civic si. Can’t wait to figure out how to get that k24 into that ef. I have a feeling that 205 hp and a 6 speed are going to be amazing in that little civic.

    • @DEIFAN
      @DEIFAN ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I plan on putting a K24 in my EM2

  • @boosted_l6787
    @boosted_l6787 5 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    My cousin had a k24 bottom and k20 head, that thing was insane

    • @mrcwoodworks4523
      @mrcwoodworks4523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      I bet he mowed so much grass it broke a record

    • @motolifealways
      @motolifealways 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I need to do this to my element lol.

    • @a91editionsupra14
      @a91editionsupra14 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      So do I I have a k24a2 k20a2 6 speed 91 prelude fully built 11:1 all motor .20

    • @boosted_l6787
      @boosted_l6787 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@a91editionsupra14 man those things are such an awesome motor, loud as hell and they always surprise people trying to race you haha

    • @boosted_l6787
      @boosted_l6787 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@a91editionsupra14 and that 6 speed is amazing too

  • @autocrossstar17
    @autocrossstar17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I have a 14 Si and I’ve had B Series cars. A also had a friend who had an RSX-S. I love the low-end grunt of the 24 but the 20 is so much more fun with the more pronounced switch-over and 8k redline.

    • @Senza_1
      @Senza_1 ปีที่แล้ว

      My first car was a type s. I LOVED. that engine. I want to swap it into something to feel that high rpm again

  • @jarvis4675
    @jarvis4675 5 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    The K24 is a taller block due to its stroke. That can be a problem where space is limited. Hood or oil pan clearance can be an issue.

    • @marvinhernandez7374
      @marvinhernandez7374 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jarvis it really is I have a 9th gen Si and the oil pan sits too look the engine bay seems too crowded too

    • @Marvolous718
      @Marvolous718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Get a moroso oil pan and it will solve that issue

    • @danyfry39946
      @danyfry39946 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This was an issue for swapping the k24 into the first generation Miata but they sell valve covers now that are shaved a little bit to fit under the hood. So it might work with other cars too.

    • @jorgecisneros867
      @jorgecisneros867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a 92 eg with a k20a2 boosted with a precision turbo and yesterday i was hauling ass in 3rd gear and then accidentally shifted to 2nd gear! Smoke blew out the exhaust and now it's locked up. Do u guys think its just the head or worse?

    • @bignis88
      @bignis88 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dry sump

  • @bobbydelamar606
    @bobbydelamar606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    K24A2. I have currently just installed one in my 1989 CRX. 6 speed LSD transmission. 👍

    • @tjfreeman7179
      @tjfreeman7179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What I"m thinking about doing. Please share your review and total cost minus car. :)

    • @bobbydelamar606
      @bobbydelamar606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tjfreeman7179 I might have to dig for receipts. The 1989 CRX was $900. I bought the engine and transmission (The whole car)already together from a 2006 junkyard Civic SI. Someone had swapped out the K20 that was in there. Whole car was $1500, I sold pieces I didn't need and kept what I wanted.

    • @bobbydelamar606
      @bobbydelamar606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tjfreeman7179 CRX not running yet but engine and transmission are installed. I have to convert it from auto to manual. I of course need an ECM. I bought (but haven't installed) Hush perf. clutch pedal assy., Hybrid Racing no cut shift box, throttle body and Karcepts adapter plate, Hush perf. hydro clutch conversion with master cylinder and hoses, cheap Ebay track bar, axles. Its a work in progress lol.

    • @bobbydelamar606
      @bobbydelamar606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tjfreeman7179 th-cam.com/video/jS4qwUfMPRw/w-d-xo.html

    • @tjfreeman7179
      @tjfreeman7179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bobbydelamar606 big thanks!

  • @-gnicE-
    @-gnicE- 5 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    K24's are about to get super cheap in Canada, 2007-11 CRV's rear sub frames are all rotting out and being condemned.

    • @Questchaun
      @Questchaun 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      🙏 we coming for them blocks!

    • @darnellquesnel1832
      @darnellquesnel1832 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I live in vermont, which is basically canada, k series are cheap af here!

    • @jamesm8978
      @jamesm8978 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Illinois just got hit with snow so the salt on the roads rusted out like all the Honda’s. K24 here I come.

    • @maxmart7690
      @maxmart7690 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dont all the mid 2000 accords have them too?

    • @highspeedenthusiast6628
      @highspeedenthusiast6628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@darnellquesnel1832 how about you throw a bone on one of those cheap-ass blocks homie

  • @Lxzandr
    @Lxzandr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video man. So much to learn and knowledge to gain about cars, engines etc. Keep up the good work. Cheers from New Zealand.

  • @chrisparker9837
    @chrisparker9837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember when a k swap just started. I was part of one of the first clubs to have a k20A jdm swap in an 95 EG! It was amazing!

  • @harryazzole7814
    @harryazzole7814 5 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    Neither, K24 Frankenstein with a K20 Type S head and a 6 speed LSD Type R trans. Ultimate Honda setup.

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      That would be a bad ass setup!

    • @wheresunagi760
      @wheresunagi760 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And ktuned shifter

    • @fortune1186
      @fortune1186 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      he said that tho....

    • @702justin702
      @702justin702 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      For race setups the FD2 type r trans is good but the final drive is terrible for street driven cars. The fa5 6 speed is the same but the 6th gear and FD ratios are better suited for street applications. Also make sure you get the 09'-11' trans as the bearings are better.

    • @Kizamime
      @Kizamime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is poplar amongst Element enthusiasts

  • @stevenhoffman5134
    @stevenhoffman5134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had an 04 element EX that I totalled by hitting 2 elk in September last year but the engine still ran great just a lot of body damage to the front and now have an 02 rsx type-s finding out the k24 bottom+k20head would have been great I should've kept my element when I was paid out by insurance and taken a cut on the payout and combined the engines! Damn

  • @444RUSH
    @444RUSH 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for making this video. I still have so many questions about what my choice will be but this really helps break it down into a better decision making model. Thanks again!!

  • @danbrooks7
    @danbrooks7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't watch this because I have to study right now. But I liked your video because I love this substantiative conversation. 😃😃😃

  • @TerranceINKEmoses
    @TerranceINKEmoses 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very good! Lots of info! I have the k24/k20, and its boss

  • @paulstevens9409
    @paulstevens9409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A K24 with a reflash is a fantastic engine...from 2000 rpm - 7600, there is no let up til it hits the limiter, just pure power...and that is in the heavier accord

  • @sparkymikey25
    @sparkymikey25 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job with these easy to understand videos and thank you.

  • @christianobrien4465
    @christianobrien4465 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I subscribed..because it's an excellent video. I do not own a honda but have always wondered about this. I'm a b14 nissan and L30 altima owner. But love the video.

  • @mikef2492
    @mikef2492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Being a guy who loves his dads DC5 great video. You need to do a video on EJ vs FA engines in the Subaru ! Your break downs are concise and straight to the point awesome stuff

  • @gherbers
    @gherbers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fantastic video. I’ve spent 15 years around K-series Hondas, and I still learned some things. Well organized and concise information. Nice job!

  • @sydwelltlhola4211
    @sydwelltlhola4211 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Second video I've watched and they really informative. Subscribed I have

  • @kylewilliamson6228
    @kylewilliamson6228 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finishing up my k20z1 turbo swap in my dc2 today. Nice video

    • @kylewilliamson6228
      @kylewilliamson6228 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arthur Wall I plan to hurt all feelings precision 6765 controlled by an AEM Infinity

  • @ctrldmnz6242
    @ctrldmnz6242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A k24a2 with a simple type S oil pump is loads of fun and u can rev to the sky!

  • @EASTNSIM9454
    @EASTNSIM9454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    loved the K24 I had in my 17 accord, but the CVT ruined the entire experience. also noted that the intake manifold was on the fire wall side while the block had the 4 exhaust exits built into it and lead to a singular exhaust exit. it was kind of odd.
    just switched to a 19 civic sport 6MT. couldn't be happier with my decision to get the K20 instead of the 1.5T, especially with soflo weather.

  • @brydenal6319
    @brydenal6319 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I already have the amalgamation, Displacement and how to get more power in my head, As dude explained, 24 A2

  • @maglev_
    @maglev_ ปีที่แล้ว

    great video very comprehensive and well spoken thanks

  • @PiroFyre
    @PiroFyre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Aww you missed the 9th gen Civic that had a K24. The extra torque made it a really nice daily driver.

    • @straightupgutta
      @straightupgutta 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ya but manifold was shit out that car. Definite rbc swap

    • @christopherrogers8316
      @christopherrogers8316 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      cuz it aint the good k24, the k24a2 is king

    • @PiroFyre
      @PiroFyre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don't know about the manifold being "shit". How it was designed, it was more aimed towards on producing more torque and keeping that torque in the low end. If you want more all motor power, than the 9th gen platform isn't too good for this. Also depends what your end goal is with a car. For me, I kept my 9th gen completely stock with just brakes and tires and did nothing but autox and track with it. The torque really helps with corner exit in a higher gear compared to staying in the lower gear on an 8th gen, topping out the rev limiter on corner exits.

    • @PiroFyre
      @PiroFyre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Both motors are pretty similar to each other but if all you want to do is wrench and try to make more power out of these motors, then yes, K24A2 would be a better fit. I personally tracked and autoxed my 9th gen completely stock and I had no complaints with it's power and torque delivery on track. The motor responds great even though it was an e-throttle. Driven many other e-throttles before I gotten my 9th gen (even drove a TSX Type-S) and the 9th gen had a great responding motor that's similar to the 8th gen. It made it great to heel-toe.

    • @gsfbffxpdhhdf7043
      @gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      PiroFyre lol u idiots talking about track racing 200hp stock hondas lol. Dude my 94z28 camaro stock would destroy you and not even be trying. Handled so much better too

  • @danr1920
    @danr1920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My '14 K24 Accord is factory stock and it's impressive. I had no idea about the potential of these engines. Also the Accord has the 6 speed manual.

    • @kevinwhiting8391
      @kevinwhiting8391 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You got to get the 2 l turbo accord with a 6-speed that's where it's at

  • @angrut
    @angrut 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's 2019, those engines give me so much memories, thank you for making this video I'm thinking about it again

  • @5.0Faithy
    @5.0Faithy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ty for uploading this I just bought a 06 accord coupe that has a k24 in it

  • @jeremy9750
    @jeremy9750 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Great video! The K series are my favorite 4 cylinder engines without a doubt

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks 🙏🏻

    • @GWrench9
      @GWrench9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      4G63 laughs at such comments

  • @seankaarlie3854
    @seankaarlie3854 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    K24 with k20z3 head seems to be quite strong. No expenses spared on internals, 12.9to 1 fully balanced bottom end, h beam rods and all arp fasteners, recommend doing the s2000 oil pump upgrade. The k24 at 8k+ is quite a handful between gears.

  • @mariasibisi5366
    @mariasibisi5366 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Straight to the point.

  • @WhatsAbout
    @WhatsAbout 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So clean and easy to understand man 👏

  • @mikehunt7483
    @mikehunt7483 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I reminds me, back in the day import guys used to talk about b16 heads on a b18.. or something like that

    • @jonathangonzalez8763
      @jonathangonzalez8763 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or b16/b18 vtec heads on a b20 block hence b20vtec

    • @Tsalinger
      @Tsalinger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It has to do with the size of the ports and parts availability. That combo has been used up and good parts are harder to find. Dart still makes an improved B-series block at a pretty reasonable price. They can also take more boost pressure than a stock K-series.

    • @gapyrodawg5181
      @gapyrodawg5181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't that start with the H-Series. I remember people putting the 2.0 heads on the 2.2 blocks from preludes and accords and Adding turbos. The B-18 DOHC wasn't available here then I thought. It was all SOHC's back then. The B-16 was only in the Del Sol and eventually the Civic SI
      Whoops forgot all about the 170hp B-18 in the Integra GSR😂😂

  • @shancyroesner9212
    @shancyroesner9212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I’ll go with the k20 because of the high revving

    • @jattack9972
      @jattack9972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Also, a k20 holds boost much better due to it having a shorter stroke. You have de-stroke a k24 a lot to have a reliable high whp motor. My buddy is boosted in his k24 and he can't even go over 10 psi of boost but I've seen stock k20a's go over 12 🤔 I can care less for torque in a FWD car you'll just spin of the line

    • @shawnsta7779
      @shawnsta7779 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jattack9972 depends on the chassis it's on and how you launch.. most races aren't off the line tho and when your going up a hill or in low rpm, torque is king!

    • @jattack9972
      @jattack9972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shawnsta7779 yeah but, torque in a FWD does you no good in all perspectives. Off the line nor at high rpm does a k24 does any good if you're spinning. Torque for FWD also causes under steer, that's also why Honda went back to the k20. It's a more versatile motor and 12 or 15 more torque really won't give you a upper advantage but the k20a can make so much more power in the mid and high rev range which in any cases you'll always be in while in hill climbing, autocross, circuit, drag etc... Also, k20's are a much better motor for holding boost then a k24 in all standards. So it all comes to preference at the end of the day, k24 is the perfect N/A build while the k20 is the best boost motor. It's all in what you wanna do honestly but in my preference is choose the k20 Because of it's balance, high revs, and boost capability

    • @shawnsta7779
      @shawnsta7779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jattack9972 you sound so butthurt holy shit lmao. K24 when tuned would make like 40 ft Ibs more torque. Also k24 is a great engine for the tsx or accord chassis because it's meant to handle such a big 4 cylinder. For a true race car a k24 NA is the best balance and power overall.

    • @ovidiofs1
      @ovidiofs1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have an k24z and i got 385 wph lots of power....

  • @Sizan0071
    @Sizan0071 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. Using a K24a3 Accord for last 3 years. Really good for everyday use.

    • @paulstevens9409
      @paulstevens9409 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get it refreshed and watch it fly, it eats civic type Rs for breakfast

  • @silenthaiku5092
    @silenthaiku5092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My sleeper accord k24 turbo suprises all them V8 bios! Love it!

  • @BVM03
    @BVM03 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm doing a k20 swap and a turbocharged k24 into Pontiac Fiero's. I am trying to learn all specifics about Hondas. I cant let all the k swapped MR2's have all the fun! These engines have so much potential, its crazy!

    • @BeADad2447
      @BeADad2447 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On a fiero? Get a 4.0 from an Olds Aurora! Think bolts to the original transmission?

    • @BVM03
      @BVM03 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @BeADad2447 because the 4.0 Olds v8, while ok for what it is, doesn't have 1/10th the aftermarket support of a k series. People that do the Northstar, Olds v8, 4.9 caddy etc do them for the v8 wow factor. They make cool cruisers. I've done 2 of those 3 swaps. It's just not what I want. I like the idea of a high revving engine in my "sports car". GM should of offered the LQ1 v6 from the get go. Atleast that would have been better than the boat anchor Duke and 2.8 v6.

  • @TrueDiaboli
    @TrueDiaboli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    One thing you mentioned at 4:00 is that the k24 from element/accord is preferred with a head swap. You overlooked that you would need to change the pistons out because the accord/element ones would hit the valves on the k20 head. I have heard more about people using a crv block and swapping parts off a k20a2.

  • @kailexx1962
    @kailexx1962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember that a tuner in Greece swapped a K20 into an Austin Mini. That was a sweet build.

  • @rayrod3647
    @rayrod3647 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video !! You should do a video on VR6 Engines 12v Vr6 2.8 24v Vr6 3.2 Vr6 Either way Great video i just Subscribed

  • @josephzaja9210
    @josephzaja9210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I drive ek with k20, k24, k24/20. All motor build. K24/20 all day best!! But when you build engine take care of all parts and build. Buy all new parts and do it like factory build. Best gear,tran, k20 gears only 6 speed from k24 and f.d 4.38. Best for street use. Cheers!!

    • @michaeldavidmontalvo2402
      @michaeldavidmontalvo2402 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not everyone can buy new parts tho my guy

    • @josephzaja9210
      @josephzaja9210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaeldavidmontalvo2402 then check cranck,cams,chain, rod bearings, oil pump, oil cooler and all parts you can.. with this builds allways problems if you are not checking parts.. same with trans.. best!

  • @bman409
    @bman409 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still got me a B18B1, non-VTEC and I still love it.

  • @Drake5153
    @Drake5153 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should cover the newer k series heads and how their limiting in every application including turbocharging.

  • @akinjohnson4615
    @akinjohnson4615 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need a k20 vs f20 vs k24 vid next. Loved the video.

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! More videos to come in the future 👏🏻

  • @gryphon123456
    @gryphon123456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had a K20 in my RSX-S and my GF has a K24 in her Civic SiR and the K20 felt better when the VTec kicked in. Hers was fine but the switch over was smoother and not as exciting. K20 vote switch feels like a turbo. And the sounds at higher RPM sounded amazing.

    • @detta1413
      @detta1413 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      THorne H agreed

    • @RelaxAndSmokeMeth
      @RelaxAndSmokeMeth 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      K24a2 VTEC hits hard and fast.

    • @zaddysworld5145
      @zaddysworld5145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      B20a2 block cbr 1000r head and piston is the best combo

  • @lunafreyanightingale81
    @lunafreyanightingale81 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm tooling around in my 02 crv with k24a1, precision turbo. Only thing that sucks is there is no aftermarket for 2nd gen Crvs.

  • @Freaki91
    @Freaki91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I tryed an eg5 hatchback with a k24 swap. The hood was raised just so the engine could fit in.
    When the car was idling and you look at it from the ousite you could see the entire chasis where shaking because of the big engine :)
    For me the eg civic with k24 swap was more fun than a mk4 supra tt.

  • @waseemabbas4297
    @waseemabbas4297 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice info. Subscribed!!!

  • @bw1583
    @bw1583 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just picked up a k24a2 for my del sol, cant wait to swap it in!

    • @MikeKollin
      @MikeKollin 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      How did it go? I have a Del Sol and was wondering which engine would be best to put in it!
      How much horse power?

  • @williamanthony3739
    @williamanthony3739 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    On a hp per litre ratio only the latest and top tier Type R, K series engines beat the older B series engines B16a, b16b and B18c (Gsr and Type R) versions.
    Goes to show the B is still formidable and relevant as what they lose in total power they gain by being the more economical engines.

    • @TheShift1313
      @TheShift1313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back in 01 a buddy had a black type r that he turboed. It was a great car before the turbo but mental after. The b18c was a great motor but cars got heavier and needed the tq numbers.

  • @deliciouslifetv7362
    @deliciouslifetv7362 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting comparison 😎 👍🏾 very informative ..

  • @beargang8853
    @beargang8853 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    happy you made this video i plan on doing a 5th gen prelude swap. frist swap every was thinking about doing a j35a8 but i always loved K. K for the 5th gen is a header swap but i fill like it will be easyer to work on

  • @gabrielblair9989
    @gabrielblair9989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I owned an 04 K24a2 with a Jackson Racing Supercharger 6-7psi before owning my two K20's. The blown K24 was in a 2600lb EP3. I didnt use a k20 head it was fast and tuned well. However the K24 does not have the same rev matching raise hell feel a K20 does. I was jelly over my boy's blown K20a2 then...
    I went to a EG K20a2 swap and did IPS K2 cams, Eibach VS, handported head, RRC 87mm pistons, ported RBC, maxbore TB, RCrew header, 3" E, 3" ram air intake, kpro...just a bit over 250whp. Hybrid Racing cables too...Turned it into a downpayment on a home.
    Now I got a DC5-S. The K20 can be rev matched and driven like a cheap whore just a pounding away on a road course. The K24 likes it slow and ruff getting the job done. The K20 is like a really tiny hot piece of ass that like to be thrown around the bedroom and doesn't break under pounding. Just free up the mid-range and top end. Or do a 2.2L stroker with cams forged internals boom

    • @luissoto413
      @luissoto413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      bro.... i need help with my build... you in cali??

  • @KappaCow
    @KappaCow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks for the educational video. Love my 05' TSX! My only complaint is I just wish they sounded better :/ k20 sounds way better

    • @amirparvez5415
      @amirparvez5415 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Funny how I have 03 rsx type s and I think the k24a2 sounds better 🤣 , sounds more deep and mean (at least when modded)

    • @bernieg7355
      @bernieg7355 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amirparvez5415 06 and up tsx sound mean af. 04-05 not so much.

  • @mauriceclark6093
    @mauriceclark6093 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own a 07 tsx 6m and love it.. just hate that drive but wire response! But great engine and car soon to tune

  • @Zspeed
    @Zspeed 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Supporting your channel!!!

  • @Questchaun
    @Questchaun 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A k24 bottom and a k20 head. Best combo ever.

  • @tadlockje
    @tadlockje 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, just one minor correction. "The K20 provides plenty enough power to push a lightweight Honda around...". As the overwhelming majority of Hondas are front wheel drive, you're actually pulling it around, not pushing it.

    • @LemonSix
      @LemonSix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wtf dude

    • @nb1223
      @nb1223 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LemonSix 🤣

  • @vicenteesquer1227
    @vicenteesquer1227 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 89 CRX HF only weighs 2600lbs.... so with a K24 and K20 head it will be flying basically! Good video and information!

  • @stevekeenan9673
    @stevekeenan9673 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was eyeballing a $500 longblock k24a2 swap for my carbd 86 crx hardtop...but only saw a k20z1 installed 1st gen... Thx for the vid

  • @chrissikora8097
    @chrissikora8097 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As an old-school EF guy, I'm much more fond of the B-series for these reasons: - Rod linkage shifter. - cable clutch - more simple & practical layout for service - more noticable v-tec changeover!!! K series dont have the same "driver feedback" feel!!!!!

    • @jimbojims
      @jimbojims 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris Sikora
      That’s cause you’ve never driven a K20A, probably only the North American spec k20’s. I assure the k29A shits on any North American K20A2,Z3 etc

    • @chrissikora8097
      @chrissikora8097 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im not trying to say that a B series "out-performs" a K series. im saying that I strongly prefer the rod & clevis B series shift linkage, as opposed to the 2 cable K-series linkage. you can feel the sychro's in the tranny! you feel like a "part" of the machine rather than just the operator.

    • @jesselee4405
      @jesselee4405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrissikora8097 I run a k24 frank motor in my rsx with bolt-ons. The cross over is pretty stout; I'd say on par with a B. Anyway, I love Honda.

  • @manololucas9951
    @manololucas9951 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thinking of the k20/k24
    Any thoughts of my current setup. K24A2 engine
    TSX camshafts
    VTC camgear
    RBC intake manifold
    Civic Si ECU

    • @TylerBonenfant
      @TylerBonenfant 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i have an 07 tsx, trying to slowly save up money and buy stuff. i have a dc header and flp test pipe, 50 degree vtc, and rbc manifold just sitting around rn. have a pin set coming in for my vtc, hoping to do a custom single exit exhaust, and trying to save money for some skunk2 cams and hondata so i have a reason to put it all together. should really wake it the fuck up lmao

    • @jesselee4405
      @jesselee4405 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds great!

  • @jonnybridin
    @jonnybridin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just discovered your channel. Love these comparisons! Would you consider going old school and comparing the buick 455ci to the Pontiac 455 and the oldsmobile 455? A threeway comparo would be cool!

  • @jtotheace1
    @jtotheace1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I picked a K24A2 with ported head and Precision 5858 turbo. It revs to 7k RPM and makes an easy ~500whp. There are some reported issues using a K20 head and K24 block.

  • @jumbie4972
    @jumbie4972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    J32 gang!!! I'm older so I love the h22 and f20. When h22 came out people were hyped about it like the k series.

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice, thanks for watching!

    • @bear420allday3
      @bear420allday3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup I'm old school Honda had a jdm h22 in my four door Integra blowing doors off mustangs and eclipse oh the 90s so much fun

    • @cityborncountrybred
      @cityborncountrybred 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still have a f20b vtec in my cb7 one of my favorite dailies

    • @IND4GR0V3
      @IND4GR0V3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      j32a2 and j32a3 are my favorites, that j37a4 and a5 tho, had a 03 cls6spd

    • @jumbie4972
      @jumbie4972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IND4GR0V3 nice it's rare to find a CL types in my area. Great engine my fav.

  • @JustAwesome2020
    @JustAwesome2020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love my K20C4 👌🏼

  • @bamboostedgarage9955
    @bamboostedgarage9955 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think both k20/k24 are great motor, personally boosting a stock motor I would go with stock K20a2/z1/z3 with Boost is a good simple route to the 500whp on pump. As for the k24 great for NA stock or built and if were to boost the k24 I’d build it.

  • @codysmith5905
    @codysmith5905 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would definitely not miss out on the k series .I will have both engine in my possession ❤🎉🎉

  • @aacc2216
    @aacc2216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're so eloquently articulate. 👍

  • @ibntariq4457
    @ibntariq4457 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So can you explain why people do a k20/k24 frank build? With combining the k20/k24 can you still rev high on it?

    • @Ephem13
      @Ephem13 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      K20 heads are everywhere and fairly cheap and easy to work with, good k24 heads are hard to find and require more work, it was covered briefly in the video.

  • @bobbybandz9194
    @bobbybandz9194 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    24 for street,20 for road course etc the better rod ratio gives a motor longevity(potentially/in theory) in those conditions.

  • @treydaypnw
    @treydaypnw 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like Honda's H Series engines, the 2.2 and 2.3 Liter ones. Thanks for the informative video!

  • @antrinh5525
    @antrinh5525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    k24 all the way, i like the low end useable torque and throttle respond from the k24.

    • @great4ever845
      @great4ever845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that the one that revs to 9.2 rpm?

  • @ericarntson2035
    @ericarntson2035 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looking to swap a K24 into my Miata, making it lighter than an S2000 and torquier (is that a word?) too.

  • @andreaparcana
    @andreaparcana 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video very detailed !!! 👌🏼

  • @jarielpuntocom
    @jarielpuntocom 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    1 of the best if not the best video!!

  • @SATO_FD2R
    @SATO_FD2R 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    *_I like my FD2’s K20 better!_*

    • @Podgehodge
      @Podgehodge 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      JDM versions always better

    • @cyberrr9489
      @cyberrr9489 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha me too, JDM ftw

    • @RACESPECLICKY
      @RACESPECLICKY 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve just got back my fn2 with new cams and fd2 pump it is slightly noisy but my gosh the engine spins up nice now.

    • @ricardok2097
      @ricardok2097 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And my Ep3 K20a2 better

    • @kseriesdan9722
      @kseriesdan9722 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty happy with my base model ek hatch with jdm dc5 r engine but I just now want the rrc manifold and I'd be happy

  • @garybulwinkle82
    @garybulwinkle82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We used to put 396 heads on 454s back in the day, to increase the compression ratio (CR). Sounds like what your doing putting the k20 heads on the k24. For supercharged engines, it may be beneficial to put the k24 heads on the k20 to LOWER the CR. With lower CR, you can run more boost before having to deal with detonation issues!

    • @paul06660
      @paul06660 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some people have actually done this with pretty good results.

    • @trailerparkcryptoking5213
      @trailerparkcryptoking5213 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As long as the 396 heads were closed chamber 98 cc and not open chamber 118 cc. But the closed chamber heads shrouded the intake valve and decreased head flow. To solve this you can plunge cut the chamber wall to unshroud the intake valve. Ask me how I know...I have a set of closed chamber oval port 702’s (396/427) on my 454 with proper quench distance 0.038” and running flat top pistons. It has massive torque in my C10 and will outrun those supercharged dodge TRX trucks with 700 HP. They get pissed....😂

  • @trueno76
    @trueno76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this, I need to get rid of my b16a and I’ve been looking at k20 and k24’s but wondered why there was such a price difference. I don’t know what I’m doing so a k20a sounds like the better choice for me.

  • @MotorSwapDan
    @MotorSwapDan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video

  • @hammerhome7879
    @hammerhome7879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Whats a realistic HP number for a K24/K20 head swap with a tune?

  • @AS-fm6iw
    @AS-fm6iw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    K24 is way cheeper then k20 man

    • @freestyleskyline
      @freestyleskyline 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No actually they're about the same. I sell both.

    • @christopherrogers8316
      @christopherrogers8316 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@freestyleskyline k24a1 i see all the time for 3-400. only k20s for that price are usually k20a3, which arnt prized :c

    • @freestyleskyline
      @freestyleskyline 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@christopherrogers8316 I've sold JDM engines for awhile. They're about the same. K20 bout 400-500 - k24 500-1000 and then the few performance k20s that pop up 1k to like 2500

    • @AS-fm6iw
      @AS-fm6iw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Im talking jdm top performance. Theres way more k24 engines out there that your mama drives but not even close to enough when it comes to k20 type r thats why k20 is more money and harder to find

    • @Jamxknife
      @Jamxknife 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AS-fm6iw In the US there's the k20a2, k20z1 and k20z3 that are virtually identical. Between those 3 I'd say that z3 is the most common, and the most advanced. The a3 is a joke

  • @bigvegass
    @bigvegass 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks dude. Much appreciated

  • @TheGerbsteve
    @TheGerbsteve 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just picked up a JDM k24a for $700.00. Currently ripping my k20z3 fg2, but I can’t wait to feel the 2.4L tq 🤘🏼.. Will always love the k20 revs

    • @gavinanderson1440
      @gavinanderson1440 ปีที่แล้ว

      after the swap which do you prefer the 20 or 24

  • @aaronp9835
    @aaronp9835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    K24 all damn day. More displacement and much more torque.

    • @highspeedenthusiast6628
      @highspeedenthusiast6628 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Z3 poops all over your 24's

    • @manccarguy
      @manccarguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aaron P but I like High revving Hondas.

    • @thatonecarguydirk4803
      @thatonecarguydirk4803 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HighSpeedEnthusiast Joining NASA's new team of space engineers to have a great view of earth so we can easily see who tf asked

  • @tajlewis1064
    @tajlewis1064 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sorry still can’t go wrong with a b20v and for those who don’t know what that is it’s a b20 block from a crv with a b16 head from a Honda Civic Si 👍 cheaper and plenty easy to work with

    • @JAWZPB
      @JAWZPB 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Until your timing belt snaps then you have to replace pistons and valves. Timing chain is more secure

    • @morreracingteam6004
      @morreracingteam6004 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Use kevlar timingbelt.

    • @Lej206
      @Lej206 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could use a b18c1/5 head also but don’t be surprised when you crack a sleeve on a mildly modded b20v

  • @dkrieger5281
    @dkrieger5281 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Starting to mod my k24a4 accord coupe. Cant wait to see how it goes.

  • @TheVQed
    @TheVQed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    K20A because of rod lenght ratio. But I reall love my K24/20A 12:1comp fully built at 274.9/213wheel

  • @jimbojims
    @jimbojims 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Proud owner of a JDM EP3 Type R,
    K20A motor revs to 9k, matched with the type R gears and helical LSD makes an absolutely amazing all around car.
    JDM k20A shits on all other k series. Trust me

    • @lukeyboy01
      @lukeyboy01 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still slow

    • @hauntedhillsgaming2265
      @hauntedhillsgaming2265 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      truth. proud owner of a DC5 Type-R. such an amazing performing car. mine revs all the way out to 9500rpms. yeah a k24 would be nice for the low end but the high end of 9500rpms is some magic added to the driving experience. reminds me of a sport bike lol

  • @fastingmedia1205
    @fastingmedia1205 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    F20 from s2k is the real strong 4 banger

    • @mrgreen2646
      @mrgreen2646 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Low on torque tho

  • @grahambate3384
    @grahambate3384 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gr8 video. I go k24 with kept head mate

  • @enriquefausto5436
    @enriquefausto5436 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video. Will this set up fit a CRX or a Del Sol?, Also, there was no mention about getting the head sleeved.