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- Civil War Shirts: What makes an authentic shirt?
This video explores what you should be looking for and considering when putting together your Civil War Impression. The over-represented white muslin civilian shirt is one of the most inauthentic shirts for the standard soldier in both eastern and western theaters of the war. So, what is the correct shirt then?
Seeing the photo of colonel Childs and his staff is a great honor to me , the reason why is Colonel Childs is my great great great great grandfather. He is the reason i got into reenacting and he is my impression.
Where'd did you studying yur englizhnis
I read somewhere that wearing just a shirt in that era was akin to wearing just a "wifebeater" today... Thanks for these great videos!
What is a wifebeater?
My left ear really enjoyed this video
I just ordered a grey contract shirt from Wambuh White and Company getting more authentic.
You got that right. Love their kits.
Just spent all day wearing a contract shirt. Its much more comfortable with I expected, but in a blizzard it is not as warm as I'd hoped. Still going to wear it as often as I can!
I want to get the Wambaugh and White Co Contract Issue Shirt ( Gray), I protray Western Theater Soldier ( Illinois Infantry Volunteer).
Trying be more authentic with my impression.
I like ironing the square shirt for it fits the ironing board so easily.
I like the non issue personality’s with the shirts bring
In most of the photos I think the men are trying to look their fiercest and their best. They have their best uniform, maybe not their own, but borrowed sometimes. They hold lots of weapons. usually a saber a musket or something more modern if they can borrow one and two pistols. I think most of these photos are an exaggeration of what they actually had when they went into the field. They were ragged and lucky to have one good weapon They stripped the dead to have any thing more than that.
Strip enough dead men and you'll have a fine set of clothing in no time, just go for ones who got shot in the head and loot officers to get clothes without holes.
Good, well researched video as usual. As for kits, is there a detailed resource or video series showing how to properly assemble the pieces?
In the winter time I would like to have a knit shirt to wear under a flannel shirt.
I am only ten but u guys inspired me so much your my heros
Thanks for watching!
You really need better heroes, child.
It’s about time to remake a slew of these videos. Even though I’m doing a generic western federal impression your videos have been a ton of help. 5 years is a bit long in the tooth. Time for a update.
I own all three reproduction shirts and the knit one is by far the most comfortable and cooler one. N.J.Sekela is the only person that I know who make it. He sells it for $88.00 plus P/H. 😊
I have been reenacting since 1989, but I don't know what "NUG" is. I use white flannel doing Army of the Potomac.
NUG = Normal, Usual, General. Their version of PEC = Plain, Everyday, Common.
This was so helpful. Thanks!!
Cassie, Thanks for watching! Glad it was helpful for you.
@@11thovc Was vest common for privates to N.C.O.'s to wear? I got into heated debate with another reenactor on this subject. He told only officers only wore them, I debate that privates to NCO's did wear them. I found photos of Illinois soldiers wearing them, so it's NUG!! What do you think?
good info thanks
Justin, Thanks for watching!
To me, the grey flannel looks more blue.
I have a question about undershirts. I own a sutler row white muslin shirt, and want to use it as an undershirt. Would it be appropriate to have a collar on an undershirt, or should the collar be removed? Excellent video as always!
BenBomb5,
Thanks for watching! As with anything in this hobby, there is no easy or simple answer. When I was conducting research for this video, we ran across a good sample of the plain white or off-white undershirts. As I mentioned in the video, the sutler row fabric weight is still not durable enough, even for an "under-shirt" for a working class man. However, to answer your question about the collar, I can only go off what my impression was with all the pictures we saw. The majority (not vast majority but still the majority) had a very short collar around 1/2 to 7/8. It looked more like a tape/boarder rather than an actual collar, but keep in mind this is my unprofessional opinion.
As a disclaimer, i do not pretend to be an expert nor historian. We do these videos as actual questions that have arisen within our own unit, so we do whatever research we can and then turn it into a video to help others that may have the same questions.
Buy budget first to get into the hobby. I bought authentic and I am still waiting for it to be stitched together.
it is only when i'm on earbuds
Where can you order the Union undershirt from?
For the life of me, that knit shirt looks like a Henley I have in my underwear drawer in my dresser.
Do you know of any good fabric suppliers if you want to sew your own shirt ?
Rebekah-Chris S-K go to Wambaugh and White Co, and NJ Sekela you can Google that!! If question ❓ please ask I will be happy to help.
For Me these videos are fascinating. I always wondered how soldiers could endure all their activities wearing wool coats and shirts in summer heat
Did federal troops ever end up in confederate cotton? Also, I’m curious about stirrups. Wood, iron, hood, no hood? What was issued to whom and why? Did troops deviate?
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Shirt pocket or no shirt pocket? Are shirt pockets incorrect? Your white shirt had no pocket, but your gray one did.
No pocket on white muslin or cotton. Stand collar is later Victorian. Tie for soldier optional, usually square knot (See Gen John Buford in Gettysburg).
The poorer our "country", the more non-regulation you'd see.
Who wore white muslin shirts?
How the heck did they stand to wear that heavy cloth clothes in the summer heat.
While likely somewhat uncomfortable, you have to remember that people in the 1860s were used to living without AC. They would have been a tad more hardy to changes in the weather then we are used to with more controlled climates today.
Odldly, loose knit wool keeps the morning coolness next to your body longer.
18 oz. wool was not uncommon. No creased pants until about 1890.
Ok how about his look it’s hot in the south (some times) so sometimes it’s ok not to ware your over coat especially for Confederates.
Never saw a photo of any dead in just a shirt.
Фотографий мала.рисунков много.а я принц Савойский.
is it non authentic for me to join a normal white reenacting regiment or do you now of any black reenactment regiments?
Joma,
That issue has a different answer for different units. We consider it similar to the "women" issue or any other number of physical characteristics that would exclude many of us from the hobby. While some units may not allow certain ethnicities (like they don't allow women), there are many more who would be happy to have you ride with them. From an authenticity standpoint, there is the famous "Buffalo Soldiers" that represent the famous black regiment just after the Civil War. If you let me know where you live, I can hook you up with some units in your area that would be happy to talk to you. The more cav soldiers, the better....we are a dying breed.
11th Ohio Volunteer Cavalry i live in Batavia NY thank u
Joma Smith awe joma!! I love u pumpkin!
Joma Smith I know of some USCT (United States Colored Troops) reenacting groups in NY state, especially closer to NYC. That's of course if you want to go infantry. Since you're in NY, which is in close proximity to New England, you might be able to find some units portraying the 54th Mass of Glory fame.
You could enlist in a southern unit as well, Sam Bass is a famous example, he was a slave who went to war and fought for the south before deserting after punching an officer iirc and heading to indian territory
I'm thinking the knit shirts were of poorer quality and thus have not survived to today
Nug?
High 69, at 3:54, it describes NUG as wearing whatever was Normal, Usual, and/or General. This acronym is a good filter to make sure we represent the "average" soldier. We want to represent the norm, not the exception. A good example of this is sack coats vs. shell jackets. Even though most cavalry reenacts today wear the sharp looking Shell jacket, it is actually the sack coat (fatigue blouse) that was more common...therefore more normal. Hope this helps. Thanks!
11th Ohio Volunteer Cavalry very cool....thank u
11th Ohio Volunteer Cavalry I have an old "killer angels" sack coat still ...one made in the early 80s...no lining and one kidney breast pocket
best way to descried the shirt in today's terms is wearing a wife beater or A shirt in public
my audio is crappy
Civil War Guy 007,
I just listened to the video on another device than what I created the video on and it seemed ok. Could other guys who have audio issues please speak up too? We have had some issues with our wireless microphones that we have been using. Any information could help.
Sometimes when a video is just uploaded the quality is real low, but after a few minutes its good, maybe that's what happened
civil war guy 007 I hear a slight popping like audio on a record player, but it is not too bad only slight.
Thanks!
Wow times were incredibly different in the past. To me, their dress norms seem ridiculous. Why overdress and sweat while doing manual labor?
Go talk to an old farmer. They wear their flannel underwear/long johns year round. The goal is to drink enough water and to sweat through your shirts. They believe it protects you from heat prostration.
oh give me a break....maybe the issue shirts went the way of the hardee hat....THROWN IN A RIVER
This is a very one sided video. Not so much civil war but just focus on the union side. What about the south army? They weren't issued shirts.
Jenn, sorry for the confusion. On our organization's mission statement on our youtube homepage we clearly state that we focus on only the federal side of the civil war. We leave the southern specifics to other historians. Thanks for watching!
The Southern army was issued shirts and drawers as well, there were hundreds of thousands of these produced in Richmond during the war.