According to McDuffie, he wanted to include Icon, Hardware and other Dakota Heroes on Static Shock but Kids WB wanted him to alter the characters to be teenagers. Dwayne McDuffie declined to alter the characters and that's why you never saw them on Static Shock.
Actually, in an episode, we do see Speedy as a JLU reserve, but the Titans are not mentioned. But Speedy was used with the same animation as in Teen Titans. Also, Hal Jordan showed up when the timeline was being tampered with in an episode of JLU.
Hal possibly being an ordinary guy in the main DCAU timeline is also possible as Kyle Reyner's debut does have his name on a plane in the middle of nowhere. He might never be a Lantern in this timeline but he technically does exist.
Static dressing like Black Vulcan is so cool cause in Young Justice they did an homage to the Super Friends with having Samurai, Apache Chief, and El Dorado, but Static was their stand in for Black Vulcan!
When Hermes shows up in "The Balance", he is first seen in shadow with his winged helmet, and Diana thinks it might be Wally. But he says, just prior to emerging, "It's me, the original speedster". I always took this as a Jay Garrick tease.
The Superman TAS Flash too is Wally West. Barry has completely different personality, and that one behaves almost exactly like JL/JLU Wally. Also... Since when is different costume an indication of a different person wearing it? In comics Wally had like 4 or 5 versions of Flash costume. Flash's design just changed for new series, and that is all.
Maciej Adamiak You know it was supposed to be Barry Allen in the JL unlimited show, right? The reason they didn’t do it is because he died years ago in the comics, wally took his place, and Warner Bros. care a lot about continuity. This is why there’s so many nods to Wally being Barry like how he acts similar to Barry, how Lex Luther as Flash took off his mask (Wally takes off his mask without touching his face), how Wally has a lightning freak accident as an adult, etc. Barry is serious when he needs to be because of all the problem he’s in, Wally never really went through what Barry has and that’s why he’s practically never serious (until 2016) TL;DR. They wanted Barry but Warner Bros. didn’t let them, so they made Wally into a red head Barry but even less serious.
Ginger Gordon Wally is never serious because he never went through what Barry has? Hahahahahhaha. He has went through worse and he definitely knows when to be serious and when to be relaxed. In Geoff Johns Flash he watched zoom kill his unborn children. And don’t forget his uncle that he saw as a father figure died. Let’s not get condescending because you like Barry.
AnthonyPotato 125 “Let’s not get condescending because you like Barry” But you could get condescending because you like Wally... Ironic. Barry’s mom died, Father went to jail for his childhood years, never been in his children’s childhood thus having them hate him, has a nephew from the 25th century wanting to ruin his life, was “dead” for 20 years... must I go on? Let me guess you’ll come back saying “you only like Barry because of the CW” which isn’t true, and even if it were true I’m able to say the same argument as “you just like Wally because of your blindness to Nostalgia” The Creators wanted Barry but they couldn’t because they needed to represent the characters in the comics during the time of the release. Please tell me more about how your favourite public service of the Keystone Police Department got his powers as an adult while he was in a Forensics laboratory.
The reason why it took so long for Richie's Bang Baby powers to surface was because it took along time for the Big Bang Gas chemicals to affect him. It was revealed in the episode where they discovered he was a Bang Baby. While he wasn't anywhere near the Big Bang, Virgil was and his clothes were coated in the chemicals of the Big Bang. So Richie came in contact with the chemicals in Virgil's clothes but it was a smaller dose then the huge air born cloud so it took longer to work it's way through his body and change his DNA.
The real world reason was that the writers were having a hard time including Richie in Static's adventures without him just turning into guy who tells Virgil what to do over the radio which is why they gave him powers too so he could be more relevant
It's never stated in the series, but I also like to think that encounter with Ragtag also had something to do with it. Yes, he gave Richie different powers, but it would make sense if Ragtag contributed to making him a Bang Baby too.
Man I wonder if the guys at watchtower database ever thought about making a video on where all the other active heroes were that weren’t in the JL during the Thanagarian invasion. If you read this you’re thinking about it now. You guys are awesome !
What if Barry Allen is the identity of the original flash instead of Jay? And like, the kid flash costume was what Wally wore when he was being directly trained by This flash and once Wally proved to be a worthy successor. He received the actual flash suit we see on the show
If we count that one chapter from JLU tie in comics, Jay is the first Flash and Wally is the second. DCAU's Wally is a combination of himself and Barry. Wally never was a scientist in mainstream universe, not to mention CSI. That was Barry. The closest he was to being a policeman was when during Identity Crisis he worked as a mechanic for Keystone PD and repaired their cars. We may also speculate that Wally is actually the third Flash, Barry is dead/retired and Wally is just trying to act as if there never was third Flash.
Actually Barry Allen is Canon and does appear in a justice League Unlimited tie in comic. In the comic Wally Explains that Barry died many years before Justice League. Just look up DCAU Barry Allen in Images it’ll show the panel.
Yes, however the JLU comics are questionably canon to the DCAU. The majority of them do not work with the cartoon’s established continuity. We’ll be putting the series under the microscope in a later video.
I was going to comment that I swore I heard that Barry was dead in the DCAU, but couldn't remember for sure, I must be misremembering but I was pretty sure at some point in either Justice League or JLU Wally mentions he died, I never read those comics so I'm not sure how I thought they said it. Maybe someone on TH-cam talked about it but I was like 75% sure that they say he's dead in the shows.
They're not mentioned or referenced at all, but some characters who are oddly absent from the DCAU also include Blue Beetle (specifically Ted Kord, Jaime didn't exist yet), Adam Strange, Firestorm, Black Lightning, and Reverse Flash. I know Blue Beetle couldn't appear due to some rights issue with a radio show that fell through a couple decades prior, and I think Black Lightning couldn't appear because DC was still on bad terms with Tony Isabella. That's why Static Shock introduced Soul Power, who was originally supposed to be Black Lightning. As for Firestorm, Adam Strange, and Reverse Flash, who knows.
All 3 appeared in the “Justice League Adventures” or “Justice League Unlimited” spin-off comics. I would assume it was due to on-screen rights, which are different from print rights. -J
Oh, that's right! I forgot about that. I believe those comics also featured other characters we never saw on-screen like Guy Gardner, Superboy, and Mary Marvel.
Yup! I remember hearing about that. Even though they couldn't make that work, it's weird that they didn't just have him in the background like the Ray or Waverider.
Mattie Washburn As much as I enjoy the Firestorm character, the episode, "The Greatest Story Never Told" worked well as a Booster Gold story. Like the Booster Gold character, it had both serious and funny moments.
Fun Fact: Hanna Barbera and Warner Brothers weren't the only companies to have animated series from DC. Plastic Man had his own series from Ruby Spears, Swamp Thing had his own from DiC, and even Superman himself had his own from Ruby Spears as well.
Actually, besides the weird yellow glasses, I kinda dig Static's white t-shirt outfit. Looks homemade enough, and I like how they work in the greys on the belt, gloves and shoes.
Its possible the Kid Flash Costume in this continuity was Wallys first outfit before he got his current look. Like a Prototype suit before he got what he has now.
Thanks for this video! I knew most of these already, but it's nice to this video regardless. Of all these hidden heroes in the DCAU, its the existence of the Teen Titans that bother me the most. I don't hate them, but their existence in this universe raised a lot of questions that were best left to never being brought up in the first place. 1. I brought this up in my last comment, but who are the members of the Titans in the DCAU? We know a few since Tim Drake (who in this universe is really Jason Todd with Tim Drake's name) and Beast Boy were mentioned. Possibly Starfire as well, but the Batman & Harley Quinn movie never stated she was a Titan in this universe though it never stated she wasn't as well. Also, multiple people were Titans in the comics don't exist in this universe at all like Garth/Tempest, Donna Troy/ Wonder Girl, Mary Batson/Mary Marvel, Frederick Freeman/Captain Marvel Jr., Victor Stone/Cyborg, and Raven; Or if they do, are given no indication that they were ever part of the Titans like Roy Harper/Speedy, Wally West/Flash (this version is essentially Barry and Wally were amalgamized into one character) and the Kyle Rayner Green Lantern who apparently went off to training shortly after getting his Power Ring (he was a member of the Teen Titans briefly in the comics), Or did not debut into comics until after JLU ended like Miss Martian and the Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle. 2. Would it be worth it? Those Titans references in Static Shock were only put in the hopes of one day doing a crossover with the Teen Titans cartoon. However, the Teen Titans cartoon went into a different direction than originally planned. To make a version of the Titans that is compatible with the DCAU, one would have to diverge quite a bit from the source material to make it work. An adaptation doesn't need to be exactly like the source material and can be quite liberal with it if it still retains the spirit of the original work. A notable example would be Jurassic Park. The movie is quite different than the novel, but many would still say that it is a good adaptation. That's not the case with the DCAU Titans though, the changes that would have to be made wouldn't be done to tell a good story, but to go through a bunch of continuity gymnastics to make sure it doesn't cause inconsistencies with the other shows in the DCAU. The membership of the team would include some notable characters, but as I outlined earlier a lot of the characters that were members in the comics don't exist in this universe, and if a person were to try to make things more similar to the comics, he would have to make a bunch of ham fisted and increasingly convoluted retcons to make it work that will strained credibility very quickly. I really wish the producers of the Static Shock cartoon could have gone back and edited out those references. It wouldn't have been the first time, they would have had to done this. I remember early in Static Shock's run, Virgil once said the line, "Even Clark Kent had a day job." Superman was originally a fictional character, but once Static Shock's place in the DCAU was established that line was edited out. I think even Paul Dini once said that the references to the Titans in the episode Hard as Nails was a mistake since it was written under the assumption that the Teen Titans cartoon was going to be in the DCAU. I just don't see any good solution with the problem of the Titans in the DCAU that could keep fans satisfied. It would just be an ugly mess. I'm still looking forward to that video from you though. Whatever answers you can come up with are certainly worth knowing, and you have the best chance of coming up with some sort of solution!
I don't think that could work. Tim Drake as Robin, Starfire, and Beast Boy exist in the DCAU, and while Natasha Irons does exist, she was never shown taking a superhero identity. There is an Aquagirl in the DCAU, but she is active in the Beyond era and that version of her is a different character with the name Mareena. Also, the remaining characters you have mentioned have never even been implied to exist in any the DCAU shows: Raven, Cyborg, Bart Allen as Kid Flash, Cassie Sandsmark as Wonder Girl, Lorena Marquez as Aquagirl, Cissie Jones as Arrowette, or any version of Superboy. Something else I noticed is that in the DCAU the only superheroes who were even shown to have sidekicks were Batman, Superman, and Green Arrow. Also, its never been said or implied that the DCAU Nightwing was ever on any team of young heroes. Batman and Harley Quinn shows us that he has worked with some members of the Justice League, but not anyone else.
Will N, I would not count test footage as canon since the producers have not finalized the concepts of the show which will likely change in the final product. Some of it can be minor like the Martian Manhunter's design, or major in the fact that the John Stewart Green Lantern is wearing a mask which means that at first the producers were going to have his identity be secret. Also, the only reason Robin, Impulse, and apparently Cyborg (Yes, that robot girl was a gender flipped Cyborg not Natasha Irons at least that's what I heard) were in that test footage was due to the show being originally pitched for Kids WB which would want to aim more towards a younger audience. Things changed when the show was pitched to Cartoon Network. Furthermore, just because a character exists on Earth 0 doesn't mean the character exists in the DCAU, and even if they do, the characters could have wildly different lives than their comic book counterparts. Nowhere in the DCAU is it ever said or implied that Bart Allen/Impulse even exists in that universe. Also, while Hal Jordan, Natasha Irons, and Cassie Sandsmark (if that girl Wonder Woman saved was her) exist in this universe, they are never shown becoming superheroes in this world (Hal Jordan's brief appearance as a Green Lantern was only due to time travel shenanigans with Chronos that were later reversed). Another thing, while I do appreciate you trying to come up with a more compatible version of the Titans in the DCAU, your list still has some problems in it. It's never said in the DCAU, that Nightwing, Babs, Kara, Hawk and Dove, Roy, and Courtney were ever Titans. Of all the members you listed, Tim, Kori, Beast Boy would be the only members of the Titans we know. Also, while it may be more plausible for Static and Gear to be members, I think they would just be honorary members at most since they would likely still stay in Dakota. Finally, on the matter of the DCAU tie-in comics, unless the events of those comics are referenced in the show itself, I don't count them as canon either. The comics have their own ideas which can be contradicted by future material, or if they do make it into the show, it's normally an adaptation of a single issue.
I don't think Barry Allen exists in the DCAU. He has been combined with Wally West into one character. However, the episode Flash and Substance did have Jay Garrick's helmet which does raise some possibilities. Maybe the DCAU version of Wally West went through a few costumes before settling on the one he uses during his guest appearance on Superman The Animated Series and The Justice League Cartoon. Also, the Batman Beyond 2.0 comics are of questionable continuity. If another DTV movie was made that was set in Batman Beyond, I have a good reason to believe the producers would ignore the events of those comics, or take some elements from them but add their own twist on them.
Ya know what, I like that there are a lot of heroes and villains that we never actually see but are confirmed to be in universe, makes a DCAU feel a little bigger than just what we see
If I'm not mistaken, Tamerainins (however you spell Starfire's race) age slower so she's actually much older...or something. Maybe I'm mixing Saiyans and Kryptononians. They are all similar.
I'm looking forward to the video you guys put out about the DCAU Titans. There actually was a DCAU Teen Titans show pitched at one point in the 90's, and it included all the original members (Dick Grayson/Robin, Roy Harper/Speedy, Wally West/Kid Flash, Donna Troy/Wonder Girl, and Garth/Aqualad), but it fell through for some reason. There's even concept art for it online. It would've been interesting if it had been made, given what would come later. In regard to the DCAU Titans, I think we can probably safely say that it was the first iteration of the team that existed in the DCAU. The original silver age team wouldn't make sense, with the only members who would work being Dick and Roy. Aquaman doesn't become public knowledge until his appearance in Superman TAS, so it'd be kind of weird if Aqualad were running around as a superhero before then. Same goes for Wonder Girl, since Wonder Woman doesn't make her debut until the beginning of Justice League. Wally would be around, but he was always just the Flash and never Kid Flash. The Kid Flash costume in the museum makes that weird, but my recently-developed headcanon/rationalization to explain it is that when Wally first started out as the Flash he wore the Kid Flash suit, and later changed to the red costume. That just leaves Dick and Roy, and while you could say it's possible that they could have a history of teaming up as some kind of consolation, there just doesn't seem to be any way they were part of a Titans team that resembled the silver age version.
Another potential reference to Jay Garrick, in scrambled name form only, is in the Batman Beyond episode Revenant, where they talk about an old dead school athlete named Garrison Jacobs. May be nothing, just coincidence, but the names just seem so similar in my opinion.
I have a really crazy theory regarding Barry. What if there was a DCAU crisis on infinite earths style event in which Barry sacrificed himself ala the original story and time was re-shuffled as in the comics, with Wally possibly being more connected to the speed force than we all thought, this connection causing him to remember Barry and become the Flash to honor his forgotten mentor, later recreating his Kid Flash costume (which would have been erased from history I guess) and giving it to the museum.
It's kind of a shame that Barry never made an appearance, but oh well. Although I did hear from somewhere that the main reason that Barry wasn't the Flash was because at the time during Superman TAS through JLU Barry was presumed "dead" in the comics and they didn't want to cause confusion if say, a kid bought a Flash comic during that era and his name was different.
With the "Power-Girl" thing, I have a little theory about that: since "Super-Babes" is obviously not really a stand up place they don't care enough to fact check leading to the menu being labled Power-Girl instead of Supergirl then the waitress is just Galita-a (or however you spell it)
Galatea wasn’t known to the public, though. She was a Cadmus experiment that only became known to the Justice League after Supergirl’s nightmares. And there is also a Supergirl waitress at Superbabes, so they definitely know who Supergirl is.
14:10 also Starfire appeared in the limited "Superman Beyond" series part of Batman Beyond Universe which was set in the DCAU, whether you consider it canon or not
True! We talked about that in our “Is Teen Titans in the DCAU?” video a while back, and we’re bringing it up again next month when we talk the possible membership of the DCAU Titans.
A long time back, I saw a theory on Quora or Reddit which made Superman/Batman: Public Enemies fit in the DCAU. One element of this theory was that Galatea didn't die, but in time heals, turns good, and becomes Power Girl. While I totally reject trying to shoehorn Public Enemies into the DCAU (despite understanding why the theorist would want to with all the DCAU voice actors involved), I do think the idea about Galatea recovering and becoming Power Girl has merit and is as good as any other theory about the origin of the DCAU Power Girl.
Could the Kid Flash suit be Bart's or some other Kid Flash (maybe a proto suit of Jay Garrick's?) Also, favorite is from Static costume is from Once and Future Thing. I like seeing the blue coat with the black and yellow suit. Never liked the white mask, seemed to clash with the rest of the suit.
I could've sworn there's a blink and you'll miss it shot of an "Augustus Freeman community center" in Static Shock. Augustus Freeman is the alter ego of Icon from MIlestone Media
Plastic man has always had some sort of legal issues with being used in cartoons ever since his own cartoon series was aired back in the late '70s & '80s.
What if the DCAU takes place after crisis on infinite earths. This would mean that Barry Allen is stuck in a paradox and Wally took his place out of respect.
It's a shame that the Teen Titans didn't show up, even in the episode where Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern John Stewart were turned back into children to defeat Mordred.
I think i figured out the appearance of Wally in the lab. You see his comic book origin involved him replicating the Flash's accident that gave him his powers in his lab before becoming Kid Flash. So he probably did that in the DCAU as well. Then becoming Kid Flash and assisting Barry for a bit before replacing him as the Flash.
i believe in one batman beyond comic book there's one panel making reference to "an old hero" and the way the hero is drawn seems to be cyborg. plus Ted Kord blue beetle is shown in the comics as a JLU member, so did firestorm, black lightning, space cabby, mary marvel, Guy Gardner, Natasha Irons as the second steel and detective chimp... that is, of course, if the JLU comics are in continuity... which is debatable since it does follow the storyline where JLU left it and the things that happen in them are not contradicting batman beyond.
We plan to eventually do a video on the canonicity of the JLU comics, but since we do SEE those characters, we didn’t include them in this video. Same goes for Cyborg, with those Batman Beyond comics being questionably canon too.
im counting "evil powergirl" as our canon power girl for the JL animated series. unfortunately this was the first time I ever saw the character so it warped my perception of her a bit. I am also biasedly in favor of Wally as my favorite Flash and John as my favorite Lantern as well partly because of the series. Although everything I've recently seen of Barry has not persuaded me to discontinue preferring wally. Same goes for the Lanterns.
I’m glad the JL showed up in static Shock for continuity sake. But it could’ve been very cool if the justice league heroes were swapped with milestone characters
There's an issue of one of the justice league tie-in comics (I think it was unlimited) that featured Jay, I seem to remember. Although that book never seemed to give a hoot about proper continuity so who even knows
I am super late but I always feel sad that Hal Jordan, Barry Allen, the teen titans are not shown in this universe. I really like Nightwing too and they dint really showcase him aside from the Batman show.
Black Condor features in the Justice League Comics that tied in with the animated series when the Freedom Fighters teamed up with the JL. So while not technically in the animated version, he did appear in the (maybe) canon universe.
I've always wondered who the extra Leaguers were in Initiation during a wide aerial shot that shows the League. There are about ten heroes I can't seem to identify, including one who looks like Swamp Thing and another with wings. Any possibility of a video about those unidentified Leaguers?
Yes! We thought about including them in this one, but it made the video far too long and we also don’t really know much of anything about the characters you’re talking about-some are unidentifiable! But we do plan to talk about them eventually.
About Plastic Man not being able to appear on JLU: I heard there were several issues with characters not being able to appear. Not because of legal or copyright issues, but because WB won't allow alternate versions of characters to appear avoid "confusion". The Batman got Batman's rogues banned from JLU, the Aquaman cameo in Smallville got him and Black Manta banned, etc. They're still doing this stuff to this day, taking characters off Arrow if they think they might want to use them in a movie. It's weird because they allow a TV and movie Barry Allen. And Marvel's aired all of their cartoons with no restrictions based on film franchises. I'm sure you guys could probably dig more up on this, might be a good video topic.
During Comic Con one of the writers told me that at the time, Plastic Man was tied up with another studio to develop a movie or series, so he couldn't be in JLU.
All of them are: Beast Boy & The Titans (mentioned in SS) Hardware (also mentioned in SS) Plastic Man (mentioned in JLU) Black Condor (mentioned in BAHQ) Triumph (also mentioned in BAHQ) Bloodwynd (also mentioned in BAHQ) Gizmo (mentioned in SS) Barry Allen & Jay Garrick (mentioned in JLU) Black Vulcan (mentioned in SS) Static's Son (also mentioned in SS) and Starfire & Power Girl (mentioned in BAHQ)
14:25 - if we assume that she's in the same age bracket as Dick Grayson, (I'd make that a safe assumption given they are usually on par in terms of age) I think it's safe to say that she's probably an adult, but since I personally trust Timm about as far as I can throw him, I wouldn't bet my life on it.
Maybe “Power Girl” is just the general public’s misinterpretation of who/what Galatea was, and they added the cape and ribbons as a flair. Or maybe there was never clear footage of her and they just tried to “fill in the gaps” with their imagination.
When I was younger I had read a picture book about DCAU Flash's origin. Barry Allen is the Flash at first and Wally is exposed to lighting and chemicals in Barry's lab and becomes Kid Flash. Barry dies by the hands of an unnamed villain in a "crisis" (probably Anti-Monitor)
Head Canon- Jay Garrick's helmet and Kid Flash's suit are trophies from an unseen "Flash of Two Worlds"-esque adventure involving multiple speedsters from other realities, and thus do not complicate continuity, lol.
Which track in particular? The one we use at the start of every video is based on music from the end of “Secret Origins,” but arranged by our composer Adam Mullen.
Are you going to do a video on counterfeit versions of characters in the DCAU like Soul Power or the Justice Guild of America? You mentioned the group based on the superfriends, the Ultamen.
I would think some mentions can be chalked up to fanservice. The two names for Gear don't have to mean that Hardware and Gizmo exist on this earth. Hardware could have been referenced because Gear has similar abilities and Gizmo could be explained by "who is that guy with all the gizmos again? Oh he must go by Gizmo."
I figured that the first Black Condor was from the late 50's early 60s, peak Silver Age, but he debuted in 1940. Superman was still fighting mostly gangsters. Batman used a gun. A backstory that silly does not belong in the crime and death of the 40's
Considering Speedy shows up in the DCAU in his Teen Titans (cartoon) look, I'd just go ahead and say that the titans probably consist of the New Teen Titans team (Tim Drake, Super Boy, the 2nd Wondergirl, and our other favs BB, Cyborg, Starfire, and Raven. It's not canon to the DCAU, but it shouldve been
I would’ve liked to have seen a bunch of the heroes never shown in one of the shows or movies in the last 20 years . Jason Todd just now made it into cannon as a former Robin and now Red Hood . Impulse like in Young Justice trying to not spoil things . Terry’s brother as Robin in another Batman Beyond crossover episode . The Teen Titans of the DCAU with Tim as the leader . Deathstroke as a villian even though he’s just now cannon . I think there is a ton of possibilities if they try to do something with the newer characters they’ve added since Unlimited ended in 2006 .
Best static costumes worst to best:
4).White shirt
3).Adult costume
2).Old Man
1).Black and Blue jacket
It's Over 9000 Productions you never Talk about The Creeper (Jack Ryder)?????Where is is he????
Michael Brent um I didn't make the vid. also, he's shown up a few times.
Yea, that is pretty much my order as well. xD
0:07/0:08 "It was the culmination of six anime"
I like the adult costume.
It sucks that Plastic Man didn't appear in the DCAU, he is perfect for the universe
Annoying as hell to animate tho.
He didn't appear but he's mention there's so many I would have love to see in this show but I'm still impress by what we've got
I just want a teen Titans game or plastic man game we need villian content I'm tired of hero stuff overall
He did in Young justice
Emrran M Young Justice isn’t in the DCAU. How did you even think that?
According to McDuffie, he wanted to include Icon, Hardware and other Dakota Heroes on Static Shock but Kids WB wanted him to alter the characters to be teenagers. Dwayne McDuffie declined to alter the characters and that's why you never saw them on Static Shock.
They were on Superman and Batman adventure comic vol 7
That's a problem. Especially Icon, who has already lived a whole lifetime as an alien before being reborn as a human baby.
Actually, in an episode, we do see Speedy as a JLU reserve, but the Titans are not mentioned. But Speedy was used with the same animation as in Teen Titans.
Also, Hal Jordan showed up when the timeline was being tampered with in an episode of JLU.
Yep!
"Hal Jordan. I'm up to speed".
Great scene.
The Once & Future Thing pt.2 truly an underrated 2 parter
Hal possibly being an ordinary guy in the main DCAU timeline is also possible as Kyle Reyner's debut does have his name on a plane in the middle of nowhere. He might never be a Lantern in this timeline but he technically does exist.
Poor Plastic Man!
Elongated Man gets to pop up, not him.
And is in current Flash show regularly!
Dude became a regular on Batman brave and bold he has enough screentime
In Justice League action ho got good time,so many episodes with him.
Elongated man is better, not only does he have basically the exact same powers but he also has incredible detective skills
This didn't age well
At least we see him in Brave and Bold.
Static dressing like Black Vulcan is so cool cause in Young Justice they did an homage to the Super Friends with having Samurai, Apache Chief, and El Dorado, but Static was their stand in for Black Vulcan!
Actually The Ultimates from JLU were Samurai, Apache Chief, and Black Vulcan, they even had a Zan and Zayna characters.
@@williamallen2733 The Ultimen:
1. Wind Dragon = Samurai
2. Juice = Black Vulcan
3. Longshadow = Apache Chief
4. Shifter = Jayna
5. Downpour =Zan
@@footlooseunlimited8040 Oops, I meant Ultimen. Thanks for reminding me.
Isnt Black Vulcan just a previous version of Balck Lightening?
@@guidbms go away, you Philistine.
When Hermes shows up in "The Balance", he is first seen in shadow with his winged helmet, and Diana thinks it might be Wally. But he says, just prior to emerging, "It's me, the original speedster". I always took this as a Jay Garrick tease.
I would have loved to see Barry Allen and plastic man
Watch the "Justice League Action" Series. It has an episode centered around Plastic Man and he also appears in other episodes as well.
The Superman TAS Flash too is Wally West. Barry has completely different personality, and that one behaves almost exactly like JL/JLU Wally. Also... Since when is different costume an indication of a different person wearing it? In comics Wally had like 4 or 5 versions of Flash costume. Flash's design just changed for new series, and that is all.
Maciej Adamiak
You know it was supposed to be Barry Allen in the JL unlimited show, right? The reason they didn’t do it is because he died years ago in the comics, wally took his place, and Warner Bros. care a lot about continuity.
This is why there’s so many nods to Wally being Barry like how he acts similar to Barry, how Lex Luther as Flash took off his mask (Wally takes off his mask without touching his face), how Wally has a lightning freak accident as an adult, etc.
Barry is serious when he needs to be because of all the problem he’s in, Wally never really went through what Barry has and that’s why he’s practically never serious (until 2016)
TL;DR. They wanted Barry but Warner Bros. didn’t let them, so they made Wally into a red head Barry but even less serious.
Ginger Gordon Wally is never serious because he never went through what Barry has? Hahahahahhaha. He has went through worse and he definitely knows when to be serious and when to be relaxed. In Geoff Johns Flash he watched zoom kill his unborn children. And don’t forget his uncle that he saw as a father figure died. Let’s not get condescending because you like Barry.
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“Let’s not get condescending because you like Barry”
But you could get condescending because you like Wally... Ironic.
Barry’s mom died, Father went to jail for his childhood years, never been in his children’s childhood thus having them hate him, has a nephew from the 25th century wanting to ruin his life, was “dead” for 20 years... must I go on?
Let me guess you’ll come back saying “you only like Barry because of the CW” which isn’t true, and even if it were true I’m able to say the same argument as “you just like Wally because of your blindness to Nostalgia”
The Creators wanted Barry but they couldn’t because they needed to represent the characters in the comics during the time of the release.
Please tell me more about how your favourite public service of the Keystone Police Department got his powers as an adult while he was in a Forensics laboratory.
My favorite obscure character is,
The yellow bat symbol
I've said it once and I'll say it again.
Jim Carrey to play Plastic Man. Think about it for a second.
The yellow bat symbol is my favorite character:)
The reason why it took so long for Richie's Bang Baby powers to surface was because it took along time for the Big Bang Gas chemicals to affect him. It was revealed in the episode where they discovered he was a Bang Baby. While he wasn't anywhere near the Big Bang, Virgil was and his clothes were coated in the chemicals of the Big Bang. So Richie came in contact with the chemicals in Virgil's clothes but it was a smaller dose then the huge air born cloud so it took longer to work it's way through his body and change his DNA.
The real world reason was that the writers were having a hard time including Richie in Static's adventures without him just turning into guy who tells Virgil what to do over the radio which is why they gave him powers too so he could be more relevant
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Yup. That sounds about right.
Exactly that's what I thought about Richie and the Big Bang Gas effect on him
It'd be cool if his genius was just ramping up over time cause that's basically how you gain more intelligence lol over time
It's never stated in the series, but I also like to think that encounter with Ragtag also had something to do with it. Yes, he gave Richie different powers, but it would make sense if Ragtag contributed to making him a Bang Baby too.
The reason this was posted on April 1st is because The DCAU is fooling us by not showing us these characters.
Or maybe it's because these characters only exist as EASTER EGGS
MJ Animates that's so sad, you answered your own comment
@Will N what u going on about
@Will N ok
I wish I had seen the Blue Beetle in the DCAU. I'd love to see a story with him and the Booster Gold.
Man I wonder if the guys at watchtower database ever thought about making a video on where all the other active heroes were that weren’t in the JL during the Thanagarian invasion. If you read this you’re thinking about it now. You guys are awesome !
I like reading!
Ted Kord always gets the shaft sadly, too bad, he's my favourite.
Vigilante the cowboy was badass.
YES TRUE
“THAT’S A LOAD OF HORSE-HOCKEY! Pardon my French.”
Anyone feal like there was something going on between vigilante and shining knight
Hardware should've been in the league in JLU. That would've been an awesome nod to him, Milestone, and that Static Shock episode.
Thank you for not making this an April fools video
Thought about it.
Will N “MJ Animates” beat you to it below
@@dcauwatchtower Do they have character models for cyborg?
What if Barry Allen is the identity of the original flash instead of Jay?
And like, the kid flash costume was what Wally wore when he was being directly trained by This flash and once Wally proved to be a worthy successor. He received the actual flash suit we see on the show
That’s just as possible as anything! We may never know.
That’s a lot of assumptions! We’ll probably never know, unfortunately.
If we count that one chapter from JLU tie in comics, Jay is the first Flash and Wally is the second. DCAU's Wally is a combination of himself and Barry. Wally never was a scientist in mainstream universe, not to mention CSI. That was Barry. The closest he was to being a policeman was when during Identity Crisis he worked as a mechanic for Keystone PD and repaired their cars.
We may also speculate that Wally is actually the third Flash, Barry is dead/retired and Wally is just trying to act as if there never was third Flash.
Coonie
I read somewhere that Barry Allen used to read comics as a kid, his favourite superhero was Jay Garrick, but Jay never existed in his universe.
The Jlu flash is suppose to be the combination of barry and wally.
I've always been curious on where Killer Moth was during BTAS
He appears in an issue of “Batman Adventures Vol 2” briefly, being tied up by Nightwing, but that’s all we ever see of him in the DCAU.
Actually Barry Allen is Canon and does appear in a justice League Unlimited tie in comic. In the comic Wally Explains that Barry died many years before Justice League. Just look up DCAU Barry Allen in Images it’ll show the panel.
Yes, however the JLU comics are questionably canon to the DCAU. The majority of them do not work with the cartoon’s established continuity. We’ll be putting the series under the microscope in a later video.
And actually, I believe the panel you’re referring to is from the Adventures in the DCU comic, which is definitely not canon (usually).
I was going to comment that I swore I heard that Barry was dead in the DCAU, but couldn't remember for sure, I must be misremembering but I was pretty sure at some point in either Justice League or JLU Wally mentions he died, I never read those comics so I'm not sure how I thought they said it. Maybe someone on TH-cam talked about it but I was like 75% sure that they say he's dead in the shows.
@TF Fan Artist it definitely does
They're not mentioned or referenced at all, but some characters who are oddly absent from the DCAU also include Blue Beetle (specifically Ted Kord, Jaime didn't exist yet), Adam Strange, Firestorm, Black Lightning, and Reverse Flash. I know Blue Beetle couldn't appear due to some rights issue with a radio show that fell through a couple decades prior, and I think Black Lightning couldn't appear because DC was still on bad terms with Tony Isabella. That's why Static Shock introduced Soul Power, who was originally supposed to be Black Lightning. As for Firestorm, Adam Strange, and Reverse Flash, who knows.
All 3 appeared in the “Justice League Adventures” or “Justice League Unlimited” spin-off comics. I would assume it was due to on-screen rights, which are different from print rights. -J
Oh, that's right! I forgot about that. I believe those comics also featured other characters we never saw on-screen like Guy Gardner, Superboy, and Mary Marvel.
Yup! I remember hearing about that. Even though they couldn't make that work, it's weird that they didn't just have him in the background like the Ray or Waverider.
Mattie Washburn As much as I enjoy the Firestorm character, the episode, "The Greatest Story Never Told" worked well as a Booster Gold story. Like the Booster Gold character, it had both serious and funny moments.
The reverse flash isnt part of this because hes Barry's enemy.
Fun Fact: Hanna Barbera and Warner Brothers weren't the only companies to have animated series from DC. Plastic Man had his own series from Ruby Spears, Swamp Thing had his own from DiC, and even Superman himself had his own from Ruby Spears as well.
Triumph vs Sentry to see who can forget who first
Actually, besides the weird yellow glasses, I kinda dig Static's white t-shirt outfit. Looks homemade enough, and I like how they work in the greys on the belt, gloves and shoes.
I prefer when static had that sleeveless shirt costume going on, that one was lit.
I want more 1992-2004 style cartoons
Me too!
Its possible the Kid Flash Costume in this continuity was Wallys first outfit before he got his current look. Like a Prototype suit before he got what he has now.
Thanks for this video! I knew most of these already, but it's nice to this video regardless. Of all these hidden heroes in the DCAU, its the existence of the Teen Titans that bother me the most.
I don't hate them, but their existence in this universe raised a lot of questions that were best left to never being brought up in the first place.
1. I brought this up in my last comment, but who are the members of the Titans in the DCAU? We know a few since Tim Drake (who in this universe is really Jason Todd with Tim Drake's name) and Beast Boy were mentioned. Possibly Starfire as well, but the Batman & Harley Quinn movie never stated she was a Titan in this universe though it never stated she wasn't as well.
Also, multiple people were Titans in the comics don't exist in this universe at all like Garth/Tempest, Donna Troy/ Wonder Girl, Mary Batson/Mary Marvel, Frederick Freeman/Captain Marvel Jr., Victor Stone/Cyborg, and Raven;
Or if they do, are given no indication that they were ever part of the Titans like Roy Harper/Speedy, Wally West/Flash (this version is essentially Barry and Wally were amalgamized into one character) and the Kyle Rayner Green Lantern who apparently went off to training shortly after getting his Power Ring (he was a member of the Teen Titans briefly in the comics),
Or did not debut into comics until after JLU ended like Miss Martian and the Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle.
2. Would it be worth it? Those Titans references in Static Shock were only put in the hopes of one day doing a crossover with the Teen Titans cartoon. However, the Teen Titans cartoon went into a different direction than originally planned. To make a version of the Titans that is compatible with the DCAU, one would have to diverge quite a bit from the source material to make it work. An adaptation doesn't need to be exactly like the source material and can be quite liberal with it if it still retains the spirit of the original work. A notable example would be Jurassic Park. The movie is quite different than the novel, but many would still say that it is a good adaptation.
That's not the case with the DCAU Titans though, the changes that would have to be made wouldn't be done to tell a good story, but to go through a bunch of continuity gymnastics to make sure it doesn't cause inconsistencies with the other shows in the DCAU. The membership of the team would include some notable characters, but as I outlined earlier a lot of the characters that were members in the comics don't exist in this universe, and if a person were to try to make things more similar to the comics, he would have to make a bunch of ham fisted and increasingly convoluted retcons to make it work that will strained credibility very quickly.
I really wish the producers of the Static Shock cartoon could have gone back and edited out those references. It wouldn't have been the first time, they would have had to done this. I remember early in Static Shock's run, Virgil once said the line, "Even Clark Kent had a day job." Superman was originally a fictional character, but once Static Shock's place in the DCAU was established that line was edited out. I think even Paul Dini once said that the references to the Titans in the episode Hard as Nails was a mistake since it was written under the assumption that the Teen Titans cartoon was going to be in the DCAU.
I just don't see any good solution with the problem of the Titans in the DCAU that could keep fans satisfied. It would just be an ugly mess. I'm still looking forward to that video from you though. Whatever answers you can come up with are certainly worth knowing, and you have the best chance of coming up with some sort of solution!
I don't think that could work. Tim Drake as Robin, Starfire, and Beast Boy exist in the DCAU, and while Natasha Irons does exist, she was never shown taking a superhero identity. There is an Aquagirl in the DCAU, but she is active in the Beyond era and that version of her is a different character with the name Mareena.
Also, the remaining characters you have mentioned have never even been implied to exist in any the DCAU shows: Raven, Cyborg, Bart Allen as Kid Flash, Cassie Sandsmark as Wonder Girl, Lorena Marquez as Aquagirl, Cissie Jones as Arrowette, or any version of Superboy.
Something else I noticed is that in the DCAU the only superheroes who were even shown to have sidekicks were Batman, Superman, and Green Arrow.
Also, its never been said or implied that the DCAU Nightwing was ever on any team of young heroes. Batman and Harley Quinn shows us that he has worked with some members of the Justice League, but not anyone else.
Will N, I would not count test footage as canon since the producers have not finalized the concepts of the show which will likely change in the final product. Some of it can be minor like the Martian Manhunter's design, or major in the fact that the John Stewart Green Lantern is wearing a mask which means that at first the producers were going to have his identity be secret.
Also, the only reason Robin, Impulse, and apparently Cyborg (Yes, that robot girl was a gender flipped Cyborg not Natasha Irons at least that's what I heard) were in that test footage was due to the show being originally pitched for Kids WB which would want to aim more towards a younger audience. Things changed when the show was pitched to Cartoon Network.
Furthermore, just because a character exists on Earth 0 doesn't mean the character exists in the DCAU, and even if they do, the characters could have wildly different lives than their comic book counterparts. Nowhere in the DCAU is it ever said or implied that Bart Allen/Impulse even exists in that universe. Also, while Hal Jordan, Natasha Irons, and Cassie Sandsmark (if that girl Wonder Woman saved was her) exist in this universe, they are never shown becoming superheroes in this world (Hal Jordan's brief appearance as a Green Lantern was only due to time travel shenanigans with Chronos that were later reversed).
Another thing, while I do appreciate you trying to come up with a more compatible version of the Titans in the DCAU, your list still has some problems in it. It's never said in the DCAU, that Nightwing, Babs, Kara, Hawk and Dove, Roy, and Courtney were ever Titans. Of all the members you listed, Tim, Kori, Beast Boy would be the only members of the Titans we know. Also, while it may be more plausible for Static and Gear to be members, I think they would just be honorary members at most since they would likely still stay in Dakota.
Finally, on the matter of the DCAU tie-in comics, unless the events of those comics are referenced in the show itself, I don't count them as canon either. The comics have their own ideas which can be contradicted by future material, or if they do make it into the show, it's normally an adaptation of a single issue.
I don't think Barry Allen exists in the DCAU. He has been combined with Wally West into one character. However, the episode Flash and Substance did have Jay Garrick's helmet which does raise some possibilities. Maybe the DCAU version of Wally West went through a few costumes before settling on the one he uses during his guest appearance on Superman The Animated Series and The Justice League Cartoon.
Also, the Batman Beyond 2.0 comics are of questionable continuity. If another DTV movie was made that was set in Batman Beyond, I have a good reason to believe the producers would ignore the events of those comics, or take some elements from them but add their own twist on them.
Omfg! When he takes deep breath before trying to explain Blue Condor! I’m still lmfao!
Just what does all those abbreviations mean?
Ya know what, I like that there are a lot of heroes and villains that we never actually see but are confirmed to be in universe, makes a DCAU feel a little bigger than just what we see
If I'm not mistaken, Tamerainins (however you spell Starfire's race) age slower so she's actually much older...or something. Maybe I'm mixing Saiyans and Kryptononians. They are all similar.
emotrainer4444 And fictional!
I saw Tamaranians in issue 18 of the JLU tie in comics
Video: the first Black Condor's story
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I'm looking forward to the video you guys put out about the DCAU Titans. There actually was a DCAU Teen Titans show pitched at one point in the 90's, and it included all the original members (Dick Grayson/Robin, Roy Harper/Speedy, Wally West/Kid Flash, Donna Troy/Wonder Girl, and Garth/Aqualad), but it fell through for some reason. There's even concept art for it online. It would've been interesting if it had been made, given what would come later.
In regard to the DCAU Titans, I think we can probably safely say that it was the first iteration of the team that existed in the DCAU. The original silver age team wouldn't make sense, with the only members who would work being Dick and Roy. Aquaman doesn't become public knowledge until his appearance in Superman TAS, so it'd be kind of weird if Aqualad were running around as a superhero before then. Same goes for Wonder Girl, since Wonder Woman doesn't make her debut until the beginning of Justice League. Wally would be around, but he was always just the Flash and never Kid Flash. The Kid Flash costume in the museum makes that weird, but my recently-developed headcanon/rationalization to explain it is that when Wally first started out as the Flash he wore the Kid Flash suit, and later changed to the red costume. That just leaves Dick and Roy, and while you could say it's possible that they could have a history of teaming up as some kind of consolation, there just doesn't seem to be any way they were part of a Titans team that resembled the silver age version.
Wally could've also been Jay's sidekick instead of Barry's. In questionably canon JLU tie-in comics there is Jay-Flash after all.
It's confirmed Barry was in the DCAU but died before JL, leaving Wally to become his successor like in the comics (except no Anti-Monitor situation).
I like to think when Dick left Batman, he formed the titans sometime after, with Starfire, beast boy and along the way, Robin too.
Another potential reference to Jay Garrick, in scrambled name form only, is in the Batman Beyond episode Revenant, where they talk about an old dead school athlete named Garrison Jacobs. May be nothing, just coincidence, but the names just seem so similar in my opinion.
I like the batman beyond static suit.
I have a really crazy theory regarding Barry.
What if there was a DCAU crisis on infinite earths style event in which Barry sacrificed himself ala the original story and time was re-shuffled as in the comics, with Wally possibly being more connected to the speed force than we all thought, this connection causing him to remember Barry and become the Flash to honor his forgotten mentor, later recreating his Kid Flash costume (which would have been erased from history I guess) and giving it to the museum.
Carlos D Rodriguez There's a comic confirming Barry was in the DCAU but died years before JL, leaving Wally to succeed him.
What if the barry on earth 2 was the flash and the reason why he isnt there is because of crisis on infinite earths.
"gizmo was the name of my cat in elementary school" earned you a subscriber, that caught me so off guard. time to binge watch!!
It's kind of a shame that Barry never made an appearance, but oh well. Although I did hear from somewhere that the main reason that Barry wasn't the Flash was because at the time during Superman TAS through JLU Barry was presumed "dead" in the comics and they didn't want to cause confusion if say, a kid bought a Flash comic during that era and his name was different.
You have earned yourself a fan & subscriber sir, this was amazing & very well done. I'm glad this is my first WD video.
With the "Power-Girl" thing, I have a little theory about that: since "Super-Babes" is obviously not really a stand up place they don't care enough to fact check leading to the menu being labled Power-Girl instead of Supergirl then the waitress is just Galita-a (or however you spell it)
Galatea wasn’t known to the public, though. She was a Cadmus experiment that only became known to the Justice League after Supergirl’s nightmares. And there is also a Supergirl waitress at Superbabes, so they definitely know who Supergirl is.
14:10 also Starfire appeared in the limited "Superman Beyond" series part of Batman Beyond Universe which was set in the DCAU, whether you consider it canon or not
True! We talked about that in our “Is Teen Titans in the DCAU?” video a while back, and we’re bringing it up again next month when we talk the possible membership of the DCAU Titans.
Should do a video of why static shock is so important in its limited time on the air. Show all the unknown heros that get casted!
A long time back, I saw a theory on Quora or Reddit which made Superman/Batman: Public Enemies fit in the DCAU. One element of this theory was that Galatea didn't die, but in time heals, turns good, and becomes Power Girl. While I totally reject trying to shoehorn Public Enemies into the DCAU (despite understanding why the theorist would want to with all the DCAU voice actors involved), I do think the idea about Galatea recovering and becoming Power Girl has merit and is as good as any other theory about the origin of the DCAU Power Girl.
Could the Kid Flash suit be Bart's or some other Kid Flash (maybe a proto suit of Jay Garrick's?) Also, favorite is from Static costume is from Once and Future Thing. I like seeing the blue coat with the black and yellow suit. Never liked the white mask, seemed to clash with the rest of the suit.
I could've sworn there's a blink and you'll miss it shot of an "Augustus Freeman community center" in Static Shock. Augustus Freeman is the alter ego of Icon from MIlestone Media
It's true! Pretty sure we forgot him for this video. Oops!
Shows a unique origin.
Him: Wow is this real?
Rewrites origin to a common one.
Him: So original.
Plastic man has always had some sort of legal issues with being used in cartoons ever since his own cartoon series was aired back in the late '70s & '80s.
What if the DCAU takes place after crisis on infinite earths. This would mean that Barry Allen is stuck in a paradox and Wally took his place out of respect.
6:40 The first Black Condor stole the identity of a dead senator who looked like him and started dating the guy's fiancee.
Love the occasional frustrated side-tracks he gives. Enjoy this channel
how is this channel only 20k?
It's a shame that the Teen Titans didn't show up, even in the episode where Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern John Stewart were turned back into children to defeat Mordred.
I think i figured out the appearance of Wally in the lab. You see his comic book origin involved him replicating the Flash's accident that gave him his powers in his lab before becoming Kid Flash. So he probably did that in the DCAU as well. Then becoming Kid Flash and assisting Barry for a bit before replacing him as the Flash.
So why is he an adult in the flashback, looking like he’s just doing his day-to-day job?
These would have all been amazing to see on screen!
9:19 god I love you guys! Subtle inside jokes are so much better than taking a pause to say the joke and pointing out the joke
i believe in one batman beyond comic book there's one panel making reference to "an old hero" and the way the hero is drawn seems to be cyborg. plus Ted Kord blue beetle is shown in the comics as a JLU member, so did firestorm, black lightning, space cabby, mary marvel, Guy Gardner, Natasha Irons as the second steel and detective chimp... that is, of course, if the JLU comics are in continuity... which is debatable since it does follow the storyline where JLU left it and the things that happen in them are not contradicting batman beyond.
We plan to eventually do a video on the canonicity of the JLU comics, but since we do SEE those characters, we didn’t include them in this video. Same goes for Cyborg, with those Batman Beyond comics being questionably canon too.
does Space Cabby count as a superhero or as the BEST superhero?
im counting "evil powergirl" as our canon power girl for the JL animated series. unfortunately this was the first time I ever saw the character so it warped my perception of her a bit. I am also biasedly in favor of Wally as my favorite Flash and John as my favorite Lantern as well partly because of the series. Although everything I've recently seen of Barry has not persuaded me to discontinue preferring wally. Same goes for the Lanterns.
I’m glad the JL showed up in static Shock for continuity sake. But it could’ve been very cool if the justice league heroes were swapped with milestone characters
There's an issue of one of the justice league tie-in comics (I think it was unlimited) that featured Jay, I seem to remember. Although that book never seemed to give a hoot about proper continuity so who even knows
Also Hal Jordan does appear in the JLU when Jon Stewart is changed because of the Time Master is screwing with the timelines
Funny that static dressed up as Black Vulcan since both are voiced by Phil LaMarr
Phil voiced him in Harvey Birdman, anyway!
Let's be honest, JLU gave its characters more screen time in 39 episodes than most anime do in 100 episodes 😂
There's a restaurant menu in Mask of the Phantasm that looks suspiciously like Plastic Man in disguise
I am super late but I always feel sad that Hal Jordan, Barry Allen, the teen titans are not shown in this universe. I really like Nightwing too and they dint really showcase him aside from the Batman show.
Hal Jordan did appear for a very brief time in JLU
Most of Plastic Man's old tales take place in Mammoth City, so that's likely the location of the Crawford Chemical Works lab
The green lantern/booster joke killed me best joke ever
My personal head cannon is that after the Cadmus arc Galatea eventually reformed to be this universe’s version of Power Girl
I would have loved to have seen Zauriel in action on JLU and not just in the comics or onscreen for 2 seconds in initiation
Black Condor features in the Justice League Comics that tied in with the animated series when the Freedom Fighters teamed up with the JL. So while not technically in the animated version, he did appear in the (maybe) canon universe.
I've always wondered who the extra Leaguers were in Initiation during a wide aerial shot that shows the League. There are about ten heroes I can't seem to identify, including one who looks like Swamp Thing and another with wings.
Any possibility of a video about those unidentified Leaguers?
Yes! We thought about including them in this one, but it made the video far too long and we also don’t really know much of anything about the characters you’re talking about-some are unidentifiable! But we do plan to talk about them eventually.
They show Bart Allen when they mention Wally West being Kid Flash.
They should be ashamed of themselves!
Black Adam is mentioned in one episode. He is mostly a bad guy, but some series have him as antihero or hero.
Blood Win was actually revealed as Martian Man Hunter in Justice League International.
"This universe drives me insane" and thus Watchtower Database was born.
I know he came out in the universe but I wish there was more of The Creeper
About Plastic Man not being able to appear on JLU: I heard there were several issues with characters not being able to appear. Not because of legal or copyright issues, but because WB won't allow alternate versions of characters to appear avoid "confusion". The Batman got Batman's rogues banned from JLU, the Aquaman cameo in Smallville got him and Black Manta banned, etc. They're still doing this stuff to this day, taking characters off Arrow if they think they might want to use them in a movie. It's weird because they allow a TV and movie Barry Allen. And Marvel's aired all of their cartoons with no restrictions based on film franchises. I'm sure you guys could probably dig more up on this, might be a good video topic.
Oh, yes. The “Bat-Embargo.” It’s been on our list quite some time. 👍
Most of the pictures of kid flash are Bart Allen
#oops
During Comic Con one of the writers told me that at the time, Plastic Man was tied up with another studio to develop a movie or series, so he couldn't be in JLU.
Where is Jason Todd in all of this
The Tim Drake character in Batman: The Animated Series was a pastiche of Jason Todd and Tim Drake.
Jason is going around world in Teen Titans as Red X. WE ALL STILL THINK HE'S JASON TODD!
I like that redX theory
How boy this didn’t age well
All of them are:
Beast Boy & The Titans (mentioned in SS)
Hardware
(also mentioned in SS)
Plastic Man
(mentioned in JLU)
Black Condor
(mentioned in BAHQ)
Triumph
(also mentioned in BAHQ)
Bloodwynd
(also mentioned in BAHQ)
Gizmo
(mentioned in SS)
Barry Allen & Jay Garrick
(mentioned in JLU)
Black Vulcan
(mentioned in SS)
Static's Son
(also mentioned in SS)
and
Starfire & Power Girl (mentioned in BAHQ)
Ok
Black Manta should've appeared in the DCAU.
Will N k
He did in the episode with that Viking Ship.
Maciej Adamiak that wasnt manta. His name was devilray or something like that. Probably because batman kills him and they didn't want manta to die
14:25 - if we assume that she's in the same age bracket as Dick Grayson, (I'd make that a safe assumption given they are usually on par in terms of age) I think it's safe to say that she's probably an adult, but since I personally trust Timm about as far as I can throw him, I wouldn't bet my life on it.
If you count the tie in comics as canon, a lot of the hidden heroes appear eg Power Girl,Blue Beetle, Firestorm,Black Lightning etc
If...if is good.
But seriously, figuring that out on my livestreams every Tuesday!
As someone who just found your channel today, I’ll take you up on that watch every video challenge.
My favorite Static Shock costume is the one from Young Justice. :p
or the 3rd one you showed that looks like Black Lightning's.
Maybe “Power Girl” is just the general public’s misinterpretation of who/what Galatea was, and they added the cape and ribbons as a flair. Or maybe there was never clear footage of her and they just tried to “fill in the gaps” with their imagination.
When I was younger I had read a picture book about DCAU Flash's origin. Barry Allen is the Flash at first and Wally is exposed to lighting and chemicals in Barry's lab and becomes Kid Flash. Barry dies by the hands of an unnamed villain in a "crisis" (probably Anti-Monitor)
What’s the book? You may be thinking of the “Adventures in the DC Universe” comic series.
Head Canon- Jay Garrick's helmet and Kid Flash's suit are trophies from an unseen "Flash of Two Worlds"-esque adventure involving multiple speedsters from other realities, and thus do not complicate continuity, lol.
Where did you get your music? I know it's from Justice League. I think from Secret Origins episodes. I have always wanted the track.
Which track in particular? The one we use at the start of every video is based on music from the end of “Secret Origins,” but arranged by our composer Adam Mullen.
Watchtower Database That's the one! Thank you!
It's interesting that Static’s costume is a mixture of the color schemes of Black Ligntning and Black Volcan
Actually, my head-canon is that Barry Allen is the flash that Superman worked with in "Speed Demons," mostly because the two act so different.
Check out our recent Barry Allen video!
this is why Richie's Powers don't appear till later on he was exposed to the fumes little-by-little because they were on virgil hawkins clothes
I forgot that plastic man wasn’t even in the DCAU, I got his existence mixed up with Brave and the Bold series.
WOW I never realized how much I missed the dcau nice video
Are you going to do a video on counterfeit versions of characters in the DCAU like Soul Power or the Justice Guild of America? You mentioned the group based on the superfriends, the Ultamen.
I would think some mentions can be chalked up to fanservice. The two names for Gear don't have to mean that Hardware and Gizmo exist on this earth. Hardware could have been referenced because Gear has similar abilities and Gizmo could be explained by "who is that guy with all the gizmos again? Oh he must go by Gizmo."
I figured that the first Black Condor was from the late 50's early 60s, peak Silver Age, but he debuted in 1940. Superman was still fighting mostly gangsters. Batman used a gun. A backstory that silly does not belong in the crime and death of the 40's
Considering Speedy shows up in the DCAU in his Teen Titans (cartoon) look, I'd just go ahead and say that the titans probably consist of the New Teen Titans team (Tim Drake, Super Boy, the 2nd Wondergirl, and our other favs BB, Cyborg, Starfire, and Raven. It's not canon to the DCAU, but it shouldve been
Super late, but my favorite Static costume is the updated 2nd look with no coat.
I would’ve liked to have seen a bunch of the heroes never shown in one of the shows or movies in the last 20 years . Jason Todd just now made it into cannon as a former Robin and now Red Hood . Impulse like in Young Justice trying to not spoil things . Terry’s brother as Robin in another Batman Beyond crossover episode . The Teen Titans of the DCAU with Tim as the leader . Deathstroke as a villian even though he’s just now cannon . I think there is a ton of possibilities if they try to do something with the newer characters they’ve added since Unlimited ended in 2006 .