Elden Ring Lore - Sir Gideon Ofnir, The All Assuming

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  • In a place like the Lands Between... what makes a villain? Is it the invaders hindering your quest? The Shardbearers standing in our way? Or is it a so-called friend with ulterior motives? Today we discuss the background, story, and motivations of Sir Gideon Ofnir, The All-Knowing.
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  • @gabez95
    @gabez95 ปีที่แล้ว +472

    Gideon should wear a Santa suit tonight and call himself the All-Giving

    • @jacobberry5138
      @jacobberry5138 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      … with a bucket of KFC.

    • @spacecowboy5486
      @spacecowboy5486 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Santa Loux, chieftain of the north pole
      The ever brilliant Jingle mask
      Fia, the christmas tree companion
      The loathsome coal eater
      AND SIR GIDEON OFNIR, THE ALL GIVING

    • @AirSoftFattyIsMyDaddy
      @AirSoftFattyIsMyDaddy ปีที่แล้ว

      Only to Christians tho...

    • @ozsun9736
      @ozsun9736 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He definitely gave his all on that albunaric village!

    • @jacobberry5138
      @jacobberry5138 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@AirSoftFattyIsMyDaddy Yes. Everyone can have their own thing, but you can join in without being Christian. To be honest, Christmas has more pagan roots than being about Jesus Christ. I hope you have a Merry Christmas!

  • @bmg6229
    @bmg6229 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    Gideon was extremely powerful, and extremely knowledgeable
    His mistakes were assuming he knew better than us, and that he was still more powerful than us

    • @matthewmclean9607
      @matthewmclean9607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wouldn’t say he’s powerful. I’m on ng+ 8 and I can one shot him 😂

    • @mushroomsrcool1449
      @mushroomsrcool1449 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@matthewmclean9607 he THOUGHT he was more powerful, more smart, more knowledgeable.

    • @C_The_Guy
      @C_The_Guy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hes powerful, and hes fast, but precision beats power, and timing beats speed.

  • @Psilo-gn1sx
    @Psilo-gn1sx ปีที่แล้ว +188

    I think what Gideon witnessed wasn't Marika's will, it was Radagon's. We don't know much about Marika, except that she had active machinations against the GW. "Preserving the Order and having Tarnished struggle for eternity" seems a lot more like Radagon's deal.

    • @square-table-gaming
      @square-table-gaming  ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Assuming he didn't know the truth about Marika and Radagon this would make sense!

    • @pixelty7458
      @pixelty7458 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@square-table-gaming it would seem like he did not know since even goldmask could not fathom why radagon was named as the one god along with marika until you discover it. so it seems like he is also under that lie

    • @mlmii1933
      @mlmii1933 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The issue that I have with assuming Gid (who is shown to be a competent scholar and spy master throughout the game) is simply wrong about Marika's plans is that there are two potential motives for Marika and both can be interpreted where Gid is 'mostly right'.
      Maraki's motivation is to be 'eternal' ... in this case Gid is completely right as in order to be truly and forever immortal the realm has to stay in its present state, the Greater Will can't be allowed the opportunity to announce any more potential heirs and the Tarnished by and large play a destabilizing role to prevent anyone from gaining the throne. ... In this case Gid's only mistake is not understanding the plot armor being the PC in a video game provides the Tarnished of No Renown.
      Marika's motivation is to strike a blow against the Greater Will itself by having the Tarnish slay her and truly destroying the Elden Ring and its cycles of Gods and Divine Trees. ... In this case Gid's mistake is assuming that a God can not truly be slain, although he is only partially wrong given that in the two cases where Maraki is truly slain the the Elden Ring isn't restored another God takes her place, either Ranni or the Frenzy Flame.

    • @petercselik5674
      @petercselik5674 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@mlmii1933 I think its the last one. I do believe Marika secretly want change. Anything than the enternal existence. She show rebellion against the greater will and seems as ling as the player seems bringing change to the world she willign to keep it alive by the grace. Even if the player go with the frenzy flame she dont mind and that's the only case when she can see the player intention. Every other ending is the players decision so if the player eventually decide to restore the golden order and set the greater will back on top is something she couldn't predict and for her that's considered as a bad ending.

  • @darklordauron
    @darklordauron ปีที่แล้ว +159

    I think if Ofnir became Elden Lord, he would bring about an age of unending "perfection." A hell on earth where everything is known and anything that steps out of line is destroyed. Every grain of sand, every flap of a wing, every stone and beat of a heart, would play out according to what Ofnir knows/demands-to-be.

    • @azathoth2067
      @azathoth2067 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He would become odin

    • @sevenclovers7
      @sevenclovers7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The chaos of order as it were

  • @maniacalmurderer4123
    @maniacalmurderer4123 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    I wish Gideon got a unique moveset as a boss, similar to how Blaidd and Melina have unique move sets and abilities as player type characters. Would’ve made his boss fight a little more exciting rather then it being a stagger contest with a overleveled mage.
    His lore and significance in the story are a lot more interesting then It was first let on. He deserved something neat like that.

    • @theblocksays
      @theblocksays ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Surprising they didn't have him play differently in later playthrough +s where he starts using summons against you too, but it's always the ones you have leveled up yourself the most.

    • @diegoidepersia
      @diegoidepersia ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@theblocksays gideon the all spamming with a mimic tear

    • @CsStrez
      @CsStrez ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Melina is a reskinned Black Knife Assassin. Just makes her connection to Marika even clearer.

    • @theblocksays
      @theblocksays ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@diegoidepersia Certainly be a way to punish players who relied on that too much, now you fight TWO Gideons LOL.

    • @hola0759
      @hola0759 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@diegoidepersia Na lets let him summom a drganon like rennala.

  • @whatsnewbois9814
    @whatsnewbois9814 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    His conection to Seluvis is interesting; they seem to have been working together at some point, at the albenauric village there is a Omenkiller at the end that we can fight with Nepheli (similar Omenkiller that we can find possesed in Seluvis hidden lab), one puppet in particular paints a clearer picture: Dolores the sleeping Arrow a Roumdtablehold member that was a Crititc/friend to Gideon. It was because of her that Seluvis and Gideon went both their seperate ways...

    • @square-table-gaming
      @square-table-gaming  ปีที่แล้ว +30

      We talk about her in the 3rd episode of the tarnished files, super interesting character. I honestly wonder if selivus is the reason Gideon knows to look in the albinauric village for the haligtree medallion. There's a strong theory about selivus being a puppet of pidia's that's worth exploring.

    • @King_WhiteWolf
      @King_WhiteWolf ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@square-table-gaming Speaking of that theory, you are almost certainly aware of this already, but just in case you're not, SmoughTown did a whole video exploring this theory at great length. It's called "Is Seluvis Pidia's Puppet?". It could probably serve as an invaluable piece of content in your research of the subject.

    • @Cman04092
      @Cman04092 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@King_WhiteWolf while i like the theory for fun reasons, i don't beleive it. People say when selevus dies so does pida, but pida dies after selevus, at least for me. I even watched pida die while rocking selevus's armor for kicks. I think it more likey that they're just friends, but pida couldn't control puppets anymore once selevus bites the big one.

    • @maximedaunis8292
      @maximedaunis8292 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Cman04092But what about their voice?

  • @TheDoomsdayzoner
    @TheDoomsdayzoner ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The only mistake Gideon has made is making the enemy of us.
    We felled Radahn, Mohg, Malenia, Renalla, Morgott, Rykard, Maliketh - what hope did he had?! He saw what we did to all of them through his Scarabs. He stole their incantations and spells. Yet he never bothered to think for a moment: "If that Tarnished so easily felled Demigods, should I really be opposing them?! This Tarnished slayed Dragons, Gargoyles, Dragonkin, and even godlike creatures like Rune Bears of the Mountaintop. There is no way to oppose this thing without sacrificing one's life."
    But alas, his hubris has proven to be his downfall.

    • @HoldMyBong
      @HoldMyBong 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Edited with more spelling mistakes is crazy

  • @colorgreen8728
    @colorgreen8728 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Gideon was the almost all knowing, yes, but he had wisdom. Wisdom would not let a town be slaughtered, wisdom would not go against the most powerful tarnished he’s probably ever seen, wisdom may have figured out the true feeling of marika

    • @just70hq
      @just70hq ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Almost definitely the strongest tarnished he’s met

    • @lmSheep
      @lmSheep หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You mean he didnt have wisdom lol?

  • @amebchen
    @amebchen ปีที่แล้ว +84

    One thing everyone ignores is his sheer wrist strength to weild that mace at 90 degrees to his body while holding it at the grip when there's like 1,2m metal pole that ends up with a hand holding something that looks heavy and he just handles it like a toothpick. That's why he's so badass.

  • @theblocksays
    @theblocksays ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It always kinda cracked me up how his helmet made him look like a Nazgul with ears carved onto the bottom rim.

  • @HighOverlordSnarffieBeagle
    @HighOverlordSnarffieBeagle ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I like that he's the last enemy before the end, and that the one thing he doesn't believe to be possible is the only thing that happens in game that he doesn't get to see and know.

  • @jackirish9022
    @jackirish9022 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Or he saw something so terrifying that he was desperate to stop you as they say stare into the abyss and the abyss stares back

  • @Floww57
    @Floww57 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I like to think before he fought us he was going to steal the Elden ring but then him and Godfrey awkwardly just looked at each other before he ran away at just the right time for us to show up

  • @kevinmiller7408
    @kevinmiller7408 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    One thing about Nepheli, if you do the Kenneth Haight quest line, Gideon will thank you for looking out for his daughter the next time you talk to him. So while he does cast her aside when she's no longer useful to him, he seems to actually care about her to some extent.

    • @DaxterL
      @DaxterL ปีที่แล้ว +28

      No that sounds like some manipulator shit he's saying to appear as if he cares. You don't cast out a family member because they disagree with slaughter and then pretend like you care for them. Just no. Ofnir doesn't have a caring bone in his body. By any means necessary, people are expandable. But of course he'll change the tune of his song to better his demeanor.

    • @kevinmiller7408
      @kevinmiller7408 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@DaxterL Sure that's possible, but she's not there to hear it so it would be kind of pointless. And honestly, a dude disowning his adoptive daughter is like the least messed up thing going on in the lands between.

    • @SophiaLilithUwU
      @SophiaLilithUwU ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Iunno to me it came off as him thanking us for giving her something to do so she stops sulking in the roundtable.
      He even apologises to the tarnished on behalf of nepheli, because he thinks she's a burden to us as much as she was to him, so i don't think "care" is the rght word for the feelings he has for her.

    • @partigianoliberal
      @partigianoliberal ปีที่แล้ว

      He then says "Sorry. For the time you had to waste". He's just an asshole

    • @mikeock4924
      @mikeock4924 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Knowing gideon this is some subtle way of saying "thanks, dickhead"

  • @puncherofbread
    @puncherofbread ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Overall good video on Gideon although info have a slightly different interpretation of him as a villain. I see Gideon as a man trying to be a true monster and failing because he can never rid himself entirely of his humanity. When you get Seluvis' potion, Gideon will have corresponding dialogue about the potion, opting that you give it to him and just lie to Seluvis. Sure this could just be him screwing over Seluvis but he'll still give you the option even after he disowned Nepheli. I always interpreted that to mean that even after disowning her Gideon still cares about her to some degree. It could also be why he disowned her, because he was attached to her and didn't want someone who he cared about to know what he'd done. He even acknowledges you if you finish Nepheli's quests. That's why he keeps Ensha around is because Ensha doesn't ask questions or even talk. I also theorize that Gideon also knew long before the end that a tarnished could never become Elden Lord but still chose to try anyway.

  • @Nightwalker170
    @Nightwalker170 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As for how Gideon came to lead the Round Table, we gain some insite after felling our second demi-god. The finger crone at the round table tells us that she's not ever seen so many runes together, not since "Young Gideon". This implies that in his younger days he claimed at least two runes, as well as leadership of the round table. I've always wondered though.. Which runes did he hold, and how did he lose them?

  • @rrm1903
    @rrm1903 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The moment I saw Gideon reading books in his chamber, offering demigod lore, I just had an aha moment that this guy is what Miyazaki sees the average FS lore scholar out there! It's probably wrong but I still like it.

    • @square-table-gaming
      @square-table-gaming  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nah, it's totally intentional, we all chase our tails and get it wrong, just like Gideon hahahaha

    • @rrm1903
      @rrm1903 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@square-table-gaming on a more serious note, who is the God we slay in the final fight? Radagon (as a representation of Marika) or the Elden Beast?

    • @square-table-gaming
      @square-table-gaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rrm1903 Elden beast

    • @rrm1903
      @rrm1903 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@square-table-gaming so now that probably answers a question I've had: what Gideon figured that made him so hesitant? He somehow learned that we had to kill EB. Which according to Hewg is precisely what Marika intended, but yet again Gideon says Marika doesn't want us to... This is pointless isn't it? I'll never get a grasp on this game.

    • @daniellewis4371
      @daniellewis4371 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rrm1903 I think that's what Radagon wants. Marika wants the tarnished to succeed in killing the elden beast and Radagon wants the opposite with gideon misinterpretting Radagon's will as Marika's.

  • @jeniskindof
    @jeniskindof ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The first time I met him my first thought was not to trust him. i mean who else has a Jojo villain guarding him?

  • @AotO_DJ
    @AotO_DJ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sir Gideon has some pretty accurate parallels with Odin, the All knowing.

  • @amorphisbrito9937
    @amorphisbrito9937 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    When I first ever fought Gideon I was soo shocked and it came to me as a surprise because of how helpful I thought he was when I was first playing as he was giving me those rewards for giving him info. I then later realized in my next play thru after going to get the secret medallion what he had done. I do believe if he became elden lord he would go mad with power

  • @colorgreen8728
    @colorgreen8728 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Gideon understood the golden order more than enough to know that power was everything, and so he amassed it. His own adoptive daughter used to this end, Henricus sacrificed, all for his goals

  • @Cyclops3161
    @Cyclops3161 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Not to nitpick your work (as it is always superb)
    But Old Albus is the Albinauric in the village that gives you the first part of the medallion to the Haligtree, not Pidia, who is the Albinauric who takes care of Seluvis' puppets in Caria Manor

    • @square-table-gaming
      @square-table-gaming  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Oh God you're right. HUGE oversight. Thankfully a fairly unintrusive edit.

  • @travelerofabyssrium14
    @travelerofabyssrium14 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    “Ofnir” is one of few names that Odin the “All-Father” uses when he travel Midgard.
    And Odin is also famous for being a “Knowledge Seeker”. The man literally hanged himself to gather knowledge stored in Yggrasil.
    So either that is a very clever details, or Gideon Ofnir is “bloody wannabe”.

  • @movespammerguyteam7colors
    @movespammerguyteam7colors ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Based on his combat encounter dialogue it makes it seem that he attempted to connect with the goddess of the Golden Order. Though there are technically 3 entities housed in the one divine body, which makes me think that he connected with the mind of Radagon who was more inclined to preserve and maintain the world versus Marika who wanted to reset or reforge the world. If it was me I would try multiple times to communicate before doing anything drastic like actively becoming a hostile guard to ward off everything.

  • @ckenshin3841
    @ckenshin3841 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Each of the Tarnished in the opening represent a different attainable ending. All except Gideon, however in a different perspective, Gideon who wished to have everyone struggle into eternity actually alludes to new game plus

  • @themadgamer1217
    @themadgamer1217 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The scarabs seem to be working for him, gathering up the ashes of war from fallen warriors throughout the lands between - the eye motif on their thorax seems to link them back to him. Has that already been talked about?

    • @square-table-gaming
      @square-table-gaming  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Another lore channel has talked about this theory but I need more convincing, as every scarab has a different symbol, only one of them truly looks like the eye from Gideon's surcoat

    • @themadgamer1217
      @themadgamer1217 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@square-table-gaming really? I’ve never noticed that. I’ll look closer the next time I’m scrambling to smush one - or I might just have some common sense and use a monocular. 😂

  • @TiberiusRex182
    @TiberiusRex182 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Sir gideon got off’d near the end of my fucking journey

  • @DN-yv3gq
    @DN-yv3gq ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I like how the Hold is initially full of NPCs, but by Liurnia it's just about empty

  • @bananer87382
    @bananer87382 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like to interpret his final word; “I know in my bones, a Tarnished cannot become a lord…” as the All-Knowing, in his last moments abandons what he knows, and chooses to go with what he feels to be true. As if he can’t accept that his endless pursuit of knowledge isn’t enough to grant him the title of Elden Lord, and that he can’t accept a newbie tarnished is to be Elden Lord instead of him.

  • @wtfmaderfuck1
    @wtfmaderfuck1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gideon Ofnir - the all ASSSSUMMMMING

  • @jeffreylu3626
    @jeffreylu3626 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    gideon literally sees me holding ever great rune and thought he stood a chance against me

  • @AuUntaris
    @AuUntaris 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He doesn’t even know that Radagon is Marika.
    The All-Knowing moniker is intentional irony, a dude who loves the smell of his own farts so much he’d market the smell as a perfume.

  • @AirSoftFattyIsMyDaddy
    @AirSoftFattyIsMyDaddy ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Gideon couldn't even name 10 books.

  • @leoornstein3963
    @leoornstein3963 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Gideon Ofnir the all coping.

  • @CrashCriesSometimes
    @CrashCriesSometimes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think Gideon saw Marikas wish for a Tarnished to slay a god (which is why she tasked the blacksmith with crafting a weapon to do so). Gideon learning that this is what Marika wants, shudders in fear thinking it is impossible (i know it in my bones, a tarnished cannot kill a god) thus assuming that her will is for the tarniahed to suffer for eternity attempting to complete an impossible task.

  • @Lila_S.
    @Lila_S. ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video about one of the most enigmatic characters of ER. One of my favourite theories about him is the one that scarabs all over are actually his spies and that's how he knows everything. Apparently eyes on scarabs are the same as Eye Surcoat insignia. Really fun theory that fits him. GRRM loves this type of character- Masters of Whispers- with similar networks of spies: Varys, Littlefinger, Lariys Strong and of course, Bloodraven.

  • @Mistercodmobilefan8378
    @Mistercodmobilefan8378 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm loving this channel so much of elden ring lore!! Every time i go and fight Gideon Ofnir i wonder what did Gideon ofnir read and saw that made him shuddered in fear to try and stop us to become the elden lord? Like what was queen marika's plans for us?? I hope the dlc of elden ring can explain it to us

  • @Shinkiro47
    @Shinkiro47 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I never realized the demi gods Gideon couldnt locate were the 2 demi gods that were contacted by outer gods [Formless mother and Rot] and the last one knew how to starve off any outside influences. Its safe to say without us the Tarnished, he was never going to locate them.

  • @ImarBenIsrael
    @ImarBenIsrael ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What if Gideon in some way is a metaphor to us as a community searching for the lore and piecing things together? Think about it a bit 🤔

    • @square-table-gaming
      @square-table-gaming  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Love that concept

    • @cloroxusthestainlessone4324
      @cloroxusthestainlessone4324 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ensha jumping the gun is like killing the merchants for their bell bearings

    • @xRickAstleyx
      @xRickAstleyx ปีที่แล้ว +5

      thats the dung eater. he runs around doing depraved and violent stuff for little to no apparent reason. his ending is pointlessly destructive and he does nothing but ruin everyones lives. hes the real player character

    • @EverTM
      @EverTM ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gideon would start with the Pendant in DS1

  • @FiftySpeckledRiceFan
    @FiftySpeckledRiceFan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If he had more drip, he'd be Sir Gideon Ofnir, the All-Sowing.

  • @gagemullis313
    @gagemullis313 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am curious as to who gave him the title of "Sir" as this implies he has been Knighted, but by whom?

  • @SquatchViking
    @SquatchViking ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As much of an ass as Gideon is, one detail I do love about his boss fight is how his moveset changes depending on what you've done before fighting him. If you kill Mohg before fighting him, he gets Bloodboon added to his list of spells. If you kill Malenia before fighting him, he'll also get Scarlet Aeonia! One has to wonder if this is the same thing with him being able to cast Rykard's Rancor, since that is also a spell specific to killing him

  • @ramageep
    @ramageep ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don't think we ever kill a god in elden ring, despite what the pop-up in game says, the Elden Beast was described as a more of an emissary the Outer Will sent to the lands between. The outer gods might not have a physical form, therefore cant be killed by a simple tarnished, but who knows

  • @coreyvortez866
    @coreyvortez866 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That okina fight at the beginning was legit

  • @ianwilborn3728
    @ianwilborn3728 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always thought the bottom of his helmet is a beard to give it a wizard vibe and I just realized it's ears

  • @wilburforce8046
    @wilburforce8046 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know for being the all knowing he sure didn’t know a whole lot about the actual lore in elden ring. Man actually missed the whole Marika vs Greater will conflcit caused the shattering.

  • @Writh811
    @Writh811 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was gonna type a few sentence about how Gideon is actually weak and he realizes it and that's why he tries to pretend the goal is not to be Elden Lord but I realized that is a waste of everyone's time because it isn't the reason. Gideon is there to stall us. The junk he says in the final fight, he is trying to keep us from going to the Erdtree. He's desperate for us to give up or at least just wait a little longer. Why you ask? Well consider what is pretty much on the other side of Gideon... Godfrey. Godfrey emerged and Gideon like a good little puppy followed him out of the Roundtable Hold to the Erdtree. Gideon either offered to wait or was commanded to do so to forestall any who would interrupt Godfrey's reunion with Marika in the Erdtree.
    If you think I'm wrong consider these absolute facts. Gideon gives us a lot of lip service before he does anything in the fight (in fiction and in real life from the school yard to the terrible fields of war long windedness is a stall tactic). There is no one between Gideon and Godfrey. Godfrey is closer to the Erdtree than Gideon. Meaning Godfrey would have to go through Gideon or got there before him. So Gideon either saw him and stopped where he was or was commanded by Godfrey when they arrived together. While weighing those also note that Gideon was posing and waiting. Consider what would have happened if Gideon could win against us or we listen to him and give up. What's the next logical thing that happens in the sequence of events with Godfrey pretty much right at the entrance of the tree?
    I'm not saying he served Godfrey the whole time, but I think when Godfrey showed up Gideon saw the writing on the wall.

    • @SophiaLilithUwU
      @SophiaLilithUwU ปีที่แล้ว +2

      honestly, i doubt godfrey would have commanded gideon to stall any tarnished claimants. Godfrey was probably itching for a good fight when he came back to the lands between. Gideon probably just figured that's he'd have to fight both the tarnished player and godfrey for the throne and chose us first, because i did not believe we were stronger than godfrey at this point.

    • @Writh811
      @Writh811 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SophiaLilithUwU Because he is a great warrior who enjoys a battle does not mean he lacks a sense of priority nor the advisory command of Serosh. The world is on the brink of ending I doubt he is thinking about tossing hands for fun especially with the Elden Ring 20 feet away.
      As weak sauce as Gideon is, and knowns he is, there is no way he genuinely believed he was gonna fight us off and then fight Godfrey. If anything Gideon would have tried to trick us into working together since we are already listening to him. He'd have us go double team Godfrey and then he'd just stab us in the back. Not to mention, Godfrey was right at the door with it's last barrier removed it wouldn't make sense for Gideon (second closest contender to the door) to turn around stand in a pose and wait, give a discouraging speech, and pick a fight with 3rd place.
      The only reason Godfrey gives us any attention is because we killed his son.

    • @SophiaLilithUwU
      @SophiaLilithUwU ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Writh811 Before the battle against godfrey, morgotts body turns into guidance of grace and points godfrey directly to us. So even if the path into the erdtree is open, it seems important for godfreys personal journey to duke it out with us, after all he could just get up and enter the elden ring to have his audience with marika. So honestly the "we are not important to godfrey" doesnt fly with me. He even acknowledges how "long and hard" we fought. He clearly respects us.
      Godfrey believes a crown is earned with strenght. It's inconceivable to me that he would ignore the other most powerful competitors and make the race for the elden ring a race of speed and time where he wins by the technicality of "i touched it first" rather than by a test of strength and battle prowess.

    • @Writh811
      @Writh811 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SophiaLilithUwU I don't think we are gonna convince each other at this point lol. I would just say, yeah we were important because we killed his son and no other reason. His fight with us has nothing to do with the Elden Ring, we murdered his little boy (Serosh roars the tears Godfrey won't shed in that cutscene) and the last act of Morgott was to point the finger at his killer.
      Godfrey's talks of how long and hard we fought is vaguely applied, he attributes the struggle of all tarnished to the one before him. Any tarnished that walked up at that point could be assumed to have fought long and hard since they are there. Godfrey has no reason/way to know we personally fought long and hard. But he does know we fought and killed his boy.
      If we are so important to him beyond that what was going to be his next action if we didn't show up and events were allowed to proceed. Even if we were alive, quit the quest, and were just farting around in Jarberg after lighting the tree up. The logical answer is just walk into the Erdtree because that is what is most important at the moment.
      Otherwise if he was such no-think-battle-lord why hasn't he been stomping around the Lands Between until the end? What demi-gods did he bring low to get there? As far as we know Godfrey was still in the regular world beyond the fog until somehow the world became aware the Erdtree was burning and he courted a fight he knew he could lose just to show up in time to still have a say in the next Era. Weirdly there aren't very many answers beyond this one that don't make him look like he wasn't hiding in the cupboard until the thorns on the Erdtree were cleared. Which would not be very Godfrey by either of our definitions.
      I hope you had/have a happy holiday!

  • @CorvoThan
    @CorvoThan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    as someone big into fanfiction i cant help but see in him a lot of the typical self-insert character

  • @Kryptnyt
    @Kryptnyt ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If Gideon knows that when the game ends, when you stop playing Elden Ring, the Lands Between and beyond cease to exist; does this makes his final act a martyrdom rather than a betrayal?
    He knew that he couldn't kill a god, not even you.

  • @Norinia
    @Norinia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:45 Until you remember the term “Pearl Clutching.”
    Then his tantrum at the end makes a *ton* of sense. XD

  • @tonyogar6936
    @tonyogar6936 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautifully put together.. Thanks.

  • @NiceLittleWolfie
    @NiceLittleWolfie ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did anyone else think the eyes around Sir Gideon's tomb in the opening were a nod to Bloodborne? They're correlated with hidden knowledge in that game.

  • @Bigboy_smooth
    @Bigboy_smooth ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Whit if Gideon glimpsed the greater will and saw what it wanted instead of queen marika. It would make sense that the greater will wants the tarnished to struggle instead of queen marika

  • @terminasitor769
    @terminasitor769 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    To me it’s so funny whenever I meet him in the end because I usually kill him before he finishes speaking.

  • @puzzleheaded6195
    @puzzleheaded6195 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gideon’s Lore in a Nutshell
    F I N D T H E A L B I N A U R I C W O M A N

  • @kalebstuart3083
    @kalebstuart3083 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That flip over Gideon's Rancor was fresh as fuck.

    • @square-table-gaming
      @square-table-gaming  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I honestly believe that unique ash of war is one of the most stylish attacks in the entire game

  • @unclaimedusername6608
    @unclaimedusername6608 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only time I work with gideon is to get the bewitching branch blueprint for my bard. Charming enemies is super useful since they got rid of the rapport spell.

  • @sampaio
    @sampaio 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic, your best analysis, deserved more views

  • @Mop890
    @Mop890 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, it's cool to see someone tackle Gideon. I haven't seen many videos about him at all

  • @robertsoto5713
    @robertsoto5713 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video been waiting for this . Thanks appreciate your hard work.

  • @AegisKHAOS
    @AegisKHAOS ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Of all the things to learn about this man, I am thankful that Gideon LOOOOOVES to talk.

  • @Sikraj
    @Sikraj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just noticed that isn't a beard that is sculpted into his helmet, but actually dozens of ears

  • @cobrabear6497
    @cobrabear6497 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Gideon Ofnir reminds of Odin for Gow:Ragnarok. They both are known as "all knowing". Theyre both manipulative so they can get what they need, and they'll cast aside anyone who doesnt serve their purpose like they dont matter.

  • @hystericbunny76
    @hystericbunny76 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing vid man, I appreciate it. He is kinda meme. but he has a good part on the story.

  • @WheatDos
    @WheatDos ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sir Gideon Ófnir, The All-Fucker!!
    (Ófnir is a name of Odin in norse mythology)

  • @HellFlame705
    @HellFlame705 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    after all this time, I still wonder what he saw when he looked inside Queen Marika's mind, or was it her mind that he peeked inside to begin with. Gideon is a bastard by all means but I still think he is the most note worthy tarnished aside from the player.

  • @MinimusMaximus
    @MinimusMaximus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everybody once or twice felt like Gideon before taking an exam.

  • @galacticpookachus6780
    @galacticpookachus6780 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd like to note that, Gideon dies fully believing to be all-knowing he never sees you become Elden Lord. His last words are his beliefs, and he leaves the world believing that You are destined to fail in your quest to kill god, that he still knows better than you, even in death, however he is wrong.

  • @AC-hj9tv
    @AC-hj9tv ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ofnir reminds me of Fafnir, which makes me crack up thinking about Fapnir

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I still find it hilarious that he thinks he can stop the giga chad player, also you didn’t put enough points in to vigor.🐱

    • @square-table-gaming
      @square-table-gaming  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      old character haha, also I've got to swap point around a lot in order to be able to cast the correct spells for each video

  • @boneman-calciumenjoyer8290
    @boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Sir Gideon Ofnir - the somewhat knowledgeable" is what I call em.
    He does know a few things, just don't know how he got the title of all-knowing.

  • @minerman60101
    @minerman60101 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I feel like Gideon Ofnir is going to get more content in the DLC where you can actually ally with him. I feel like there should be some way for him to, given enough knowledge, not fall into the despair and actually comprehend the truth of Marika. Your character helping him acquire knowledge has no effect on his actions, and separately there is no game ending for getting all of the great runes; it doesn't even matter which ones you get so long as you get the two to enter Leyndell plus Morgott's. This leads me to believe that if you can get Miquella's Great Rune in the DLC, that you'd be able to have a Gideon Ofnir All Great Runes ending. (Maybe also extract Ranni's Great Rune from the moon)

  • @felatioable
    @felatioable ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I only wish he was a tougher boss fight

  • @tossapat027
    @tossapat027 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Funny detail Pearl on Scepter is Eyes of Full-Grown Fallingstar Beast ,Astel Kin

  • @Z3kyTw0
    @Z3kyTw0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This channel deserves 100k Subs! its that good!

  • @zigtavius5071
    @zigtavius5071 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey there! New to the channel but I was a fast sub! Keep up the great content, you put out really good stuff and hope it reaches even more people 💪

  • @tedp9945
    @tedp9945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just love the irony that he ended up becoming Gideon the all ignorant

  • @greenpeace4246
    @greenpeace4246 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My gut feeling is telling me that he is the one who sends Ensha to assassinate me at the Round Table Hold.

  • @_nick.._.liachnis
    @_nick.._.liachnis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like Gideon Ofnir's ties to Odin Norse mythology. The both employ spies in the form of NPC's (or ravens) to gather all knowledge. Both are ruthless and quite capable in all forms of magic, making them formidable opponents. That said, Ofnir is another name for "Odin" from mythology.

  • @5TailFox
    @5TailFox ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I call him Sir Gideon Ofnir: The Biggest Loser.

  • @cross-eyedhollow
    @cross-eyedhollow ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn that thumbnail. Dude's coping harddd.
    Also, loving the Gideon slander in the comments. Stupid Gideon. I never liked him from the start.

  • @wolfiemuse
    @wolfiemuse ปีที่แล้ว +8

    MERRY CHRISTMAS ZACH AND PAT AND MICKI!!

  • @axrye800
    @axrye800 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved this take on Gideon

  • @woffydoggy686
    @woffydoggy686 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Two interesting facts about Gideon:
    Apparently, he was selected as next Elden lord when he was young, but he left his duty for some reason. This is something that Enia tells to us when talk with her the first time.
    The other fact about Gideon that it's very curious, it's that he has unique two-colored eyes, with yellow iris and red sclera. Maybe this is a sign of his knowledge about Blood and dragon magic, but even if we learn these two kind of magic, we will never have this red and yellow look.
    What a fascinating character.

    • @square-table-gaming
      @square-table-gaming  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So what Enia says is that the fingers expect as much from us as they do young Gideon. That doesn't necessarily mean he was selected to be the next Elden Lord, just that he may hold 2 great runes. Likely taken from demigods now long dead.

    • @woffydoggy686
      @woffydoggy686 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@square-table-gaming True, but supposedly Bernahl and Vyke do the same, that's why I find this mention very interesting, it's very specific.

  • @aaronwinrock8164
    @aaronwinrock8164 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To struggle is to live, what meaning could be found a life eternal a perfect order?
    Continue in the face of adversity, grow and evolve.
    In Light, Dark, Life, Death, Heat, Cold, Order and Chaos we find our truest selves.

  • @aidenfuhrman8579
    @aidenfuhrman8579 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loux doesn’t seem like a last name, it more seems like the name of a clan, like of clan loux , we see Godfrey dead at the beginning, but isn’t it likely his entire clan was killed along with him, which would be what nepheli is referencing as the site she saw as a child, we don’t see any tarnished children, but if a tarnished was a child that would explain why Gideon adopted her, you don’t really adopt an adult.

  • @D.boys6t9
    @D.boys6t9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like elden ring has SO much more to offer. They could add whole new missions and endings and we wouldn’t re start the game just to expirience it

    • @brendanmuller7301
      @brendanmuller7301 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's a whole cut quest for malenia, vyke, benharl, and even miquella

    • @kaiserdetectivegolden2735
      @kaiserdetectivegolden2735 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brendanmuller7301 malenia missions turned out later to be millicent missions
      others yes they got cut

  • @fishafresh91
    @fishafresh91 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always wondered why if he knew everything why he thought he could beat us after knowing we defeated all these previous Demi gods moments before

  • @dbearded130
    @dbearded130 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Superb work as usual 👏

  • @purplebugfoot456
    @purplebugfoot456 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder if Melana is Marika's daughter in the same way that Millicent is Malenia's daughter.

  • @Andyconda14
    @Andyconda14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gideon and vyke were closest to becoming lord I think but both seemed to lose there resolve somewhere down the road

  • @iateabagelonce
    @iateabagelonce ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there something to Gideon being called the "all-hearing" by other characters? Especially by characters who hate him - instead of the "all-knowing." So he hears all, but doesn't understand or actually KNOW all. He just THINKS he does because he thinks hearing "hearsay" or reading books is enough.
    If all you can do is "hear" perfectly, you can still be lied to, or people can still sneak by you by being silent.
    Even though Gideon also has an eye motif, he doesn't seem to see very well at all in the end, besides what he reads in books, lol.

    • @square-table-gaming
      @square-table-gaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The "all-hearing" is Ensha, Gideon's spy. This is loosely confirmed by the finger keeper who mentions the all-hearing leading the attack on the albinauric village. While Gideon gave the order, Ensha led the attack.

  • @georgeavant314
    @georgeavant314 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gideon can’t be all bad if he was a good/loving father to Nepheli up until the events of the game imo

    • @square-table-gaming
      @square-table-gaming  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He really wasn't though, it was all a ruse to have her do his bidding

    • @georgeavant314
      @georgeavant314 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@square-table-gaming the way Nepheli is so affected by the Gideons betrayal, makes me think maybe he wasn’t always all consumed with getting his way. Great vids! Love em all!

    • @SophiaLilithUwU
      @SophiaLilithUwU ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@georgeavant314 a lot people that come out of abusive relationships have very mixed feelings on their abusers. It's entirely possible that gideon put on an affable front for her to make her like him. We don't know what their relationship actually looked like before.

  • @Gary-o9t
    @Gary-o9t 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gideon never betrayed us.
    He said it in his introduction "As a fellow Tarnished who seeks to become Elden Lord..."
    So from the getgo you he has the same goal as you do. So you know you two will clash at some point in the future. So how can that be called betrayal?
    Sure, one can help one another on the path there but ultimately there can only be one on throne. And only one can keep Ranni's bed slightly warm at night.
    Also, when he attacks you he literally stands out in the open, monologues giving many a tarnished a chance to frenzy his ass to death.
    So really, can you really call it betrayal?
    But what about Ensha?
    Yeah, and he got bodied. What's your point? Don't tell me you didn't look for an excuse to dead that edgelord ass looking ass the first time you ran into him?

  • @KosOrSomeSayKosmo
    @KosOrSomeSayKosmo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What Gideon glimpsed and interpreted as Marika's will was in fact likely Radagon's ideation that the Golden Order last forever, which would doom the Lands Between to stagnate into Hell. Radagon truly is the villain.

  • @nothanks9503
    @nothanks9503 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir Gityone the Make-you-find-our-for-him knowing

  • @DukeofDusk
    @DukeofDusk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do believe he is responsible for the state of alberich if I'm reading his armour right

    • @holyspear26
      @holyspear26 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can’t help but think it was Dolores or Vyke. But it’s been a very long time since I came to that conclusion and don’t remember why.

  • @johncooney3940
    @johncooney3940 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As I always say...
    Assumptions can be deadly

  • @TotalBlackoutPainting
    @TotalBlackoutPainting ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another excellent video!

  • @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668
    @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir Gideon Ofnir, the Bald GOING
    "I'M NOT GOING BALD!"