See previous video of Kicker X50s Amp: th-cam.com/video/pAnp05mIx3Q/w-d-xo.html See initial SPL Run: th-cam.com/video/JUNlnRccI0Y/w-d-xo.html See video on Kicker L7R Quad Box: th-cam.com/video/mZceqPLn1lY/w-d-xo.html Old School SPL Challenge: facebook.com/groups/oldschoolspl2019/ Like these old school amp videos? Support me for more like this. www.patreon.com/OldSchoolStereo Shop for Down4Sound Amps: is.gd/D4Samps Shop for Savard Hi-Q Subwoofers: amzn.to/2Nh1qcf Check Out My 2nd Channel: www.wheeliewilliston.com See Old School SPL Challenge: facebook.com/groups/oldschoolspl2019 See my playlist of cheater amps: th-cam.com/play/PL6519F5277A57F8BA.html DISCLAIMER: This video and description contains affiliate links, which means that if you purchase from one of the product links, I may receive a small commission. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases
Subwoofer efficiency = everything!!!!!! Nice to see a good number put-up without 200 pound subs and enough amplifier power to feed a city!!!! Love kickin it old school!!!!
Back in the day (mid 90’s) I watched a guy from Lufkin Texas take that amp, and two kicker comp 10’s in a transmission box hit a 156 at a crank it up in Baytown Texas. The records etched in the windows of his truck showed a 158. That was cool to see
I had an older Kicker ZX "cheater" amp that would pull crazy clean sql and loud spl for what it was, but it was AB and ate a lot of power. Then JL Audio released their very first monoblock Class D amp and I bought one of the first ones, and it walked away from the Kicker. Never went back to Kicker after that even though they were both great amps. In retrospect I wish I still had both of them.
Man that is so cool 😎. My buddy has 2 or 3 old Rockford Fosgate punch amps that look similar to that kicker. One of them doesn't work at all but I think the other two do. It's been a LONG time since we hooked them up. Old-school stereo for the win 🤘
DUDE!!! you hit a 117 at 10hz with that door slam!! LOL Awesome vid as always big D, hey you and Parker and myself all have Toyotas, time to do some challenges and comparison.
No one ever lost the SPL gear they use. I've been trying to decide on one but can't get opinions if they not listed. More so now that there is 2 in this video. Merry Christmas D....
I believe it. With 2 Phoenix gold sx 12s I hit 144.3 on dash sealed feeding 373rms to the pair in a prefab ported box tuned to 40hz. If I could share a photo I would. It was metered and clamped with a term lab
I did a 147.8 on music at a show a few weeks ago but it took a bit under 3k watts lol so again yo, with 228 watts that really, truly is incredible. I live kinda close to facekicker and he's doing a dyno of my beloved T-1500. I have abused and heavily used that amp for over a year so I'm stoked to see what it's putting out. Hopefully they're still being built well like that kicker amp!
Hello, I was wondering what the consensus is on how this quad box sounds on daily driver music? More in the lines of 70's through 2000's Rock Music? Test tones and various amp configurations are one thing, but how does it sound daily? I enjoy grooving to the tones of a bass guitar while a double kick drum is kicking and not just digital 808 generated tones, etc. I know this can vary widely based on what amplifier is powering it and the overall load that each vehicle can cover. By chance let's say the box will receive at least 1,200 watts per side at 14.5V. (2,400 watts total on two each way old 20 yr old amplifiers w/ 370 amp alternator upgrade) Any real world daily driver / reviewers out there?
@@wal2 my closest neighbor is about 1/4 mile, next closest is over half mile. I live on 13 acres in the middle of no where, and so far nobody has said anything 🤞if I was in a neighborhood I wouldn’t be playing anything that loud just out of respect.
I been experimenting for the last couple of months I have one 15 psi platform 4 beefed up to 3500 rms the subwoofer box is made out of maple and it's 5.30 cubic feet tuned at 32hertz then I have two sundown xv3 12s tuned to 32hertz in a mdf box 5.75 cubic feet?Then I have two massive xlr 12s in a birch box 4.46 cubic feet also tuned at 32 hertz? I have a 99Towncar so it's quite a bit of room in my trunk?Well overall the psi out performs the other set of twelve and it has less power than them just because you have a lot of power doesn't mean you are going to get more bass response?
262 watts out of a 25 year old 50 watt kicker amp, not to bad. I grew up in the 90's and remember how hard me and my friends systems hit and only had 500 to 1500 watt setups. We all had JL subs and Rockford amps and those 1st gen version 1 JL subs were amazing. The output was insane for the small amount of power they needed. JL's original version 1 subs were the best sounding subs ever made in my opinion. I would love to get my hands on some 10, 12, 15, 18 inch W3's or W6's. I wonder if there's any subs today that sound just like those old school JL's, if there is any subs like them, can someone let me know what they are?
Sundown SA series are very comparable to the old school JL W6’s and people are gonna hate me for saying this, but the Rockville K9 subs are as well. And the 12” is only $120
Way to go on meeting your goal. I seriously had no idea that the L7R was equivalent to the previous L5. It makes me wonder what the other variants compare to. I have a variety of L7s on hand.
Awesome content Big Dee, how does this Amp / Sub box combo with the 262-268 watts translate to music output. Would it be loud enough or underpowered output?
I gave my son this same amp he beats 2 scar 10" subs sounds good back in the 90s it was running 4 15" cheap Rockford in a s10 pickup ext cab hit 143 at a stereo comp.
@@Van1018s It's been said that 120db is the threshold of pain, so I'd venture to say that +40 to that would probably kick like a mule! 😅 Me and my singular 1k watt sub barely crack triple digits (though it was meant to be a budget SPQ system), so I can hardly imagine what 160+ would feel like! You do SPL comps?
@@RAW_Reality 120 is nothing. A cheap single 8 from Walmart on 100 watts will do 120. 164 is about where it starts to hurt. Loudest vehicle I ever sat in was 171. That almost killed me.
@@RAW_Reality And 140 is nothing. My 16 year daughters daily driver does a 145.7 on the glass. 3 pretty cheap 12’s on about 3000 watts. And it’s not even loud. I mean some people might think it’s loud, but I’ve been in car audio for 28 years. And a 145 sounds like nothing.
The first real subs I had in car audio were kickers. I had many many different ones. kicker comps. I had the ones with the gold letters. I forgot the name. Now I had L5 etc. I still have a single syllabic eight for some reason that I just found in the closet
That is cool! I found it interesting that the test you did aligns with the math. 228 watts = 140dB By the math it takes 10 times the power (watts) to double the SPL (10 dB increase). So 2,280 watts to do 150 dB, which is in the ballpark of the testing you did with a much larger amp.
I just did 3 Savard hi-q 12 d2 wired to 1.33 on a DB 4900.1. 5.93 ported. Tuned to 33.5hz. In a 2015 expedition. Xs power d6500. Stock alternator. Big 3. All sky high 1/0. Any way did a 146.7 at 37hz in the passenger kick. 147.5 in windshield at 40 hz. Because of the low tuning I’m still getting 145 dB at 30hz. I had some problems with the Savard subs putting about 3000 watts to each one, voicecoils shattered, not thermal, shattered, but if you keep it down in the 1500 range they are very good subs for the money.
Why did the meter that showed on your iphone/pod show such a high resting spl before you started the tone? 82db resting noise floor? What am I missing? Anyway, another cool video. I love seeing low power rigs.
hot dayum! this brings me back to the days where we would clean out all of wal marts stock. Jensen, JVC, Kenwood, Scosche, Pioneer and Sony. we would go to competitions with some seriously ghetto and cheap setups. and there would be guys who spent 1500 dollars 2500 dollars 4500 dollars on stereos. and we would beat them using a pair of 10's and a modded Jensen amp.
Hey there, each pair of subs is wired at 2OHMs. So there are two sets of speaker inputs on this quad box. Each input is pre-wired for a 2OHM load output. The subs are 2ohm dual voice coil so you can pull them out to wire them in other ways if needed.
138.2 db 1-95’ jbl gti 12” and a pioneer premier 200 watt amp running on one channel, non bridged. After watching these I’m curious to the actual power rating of my premier amp.
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Since when did they start calling visors head rests 🤣😝😋 @7:15
let me get that kicker amp bro.
Which Apps Do u use?
Regards and merry xmas from germany!
Excellent!! Can’t wait to see what some of these more powerful “50 watt” amps do...
You and me bof!
I've been thinking one of these on an old Orion 225 HCCA would pound pretty good too. 🤔
I hope to provide a 51-100 watt run with my 50m’s strapped for everyone’s entertainment. Stay “tuned”
Everyone loves a good cheater amp!!!
140.01 db's on 228 watts that is truly IMPRESSIVE .KICKER KICKING IT 🔊🔊🔊 👍🏽👊🏽✌🏽💯
Subwoofer efficiency = everything!!!!!!
Nice to see a good number put-up without 200 pound subs and enough amplifier power to feed a city!!!! Love kickin it old school!!!!
Exactly!
Subs and Box Prolly weigh as much as a Few NSV or DC lvl 6 😂 And LOTS cheaper.
Back in the day (mid 90’s) I watched a guy from Lufkin Texas take that amp, and two kicker comp 10’s in a transmission box hit a 156 at a crank it up in Baytown Texas. The records etched in the windows of his truck showed a 158. That was cool to see
I had an older Kicker ZX "cheater" amp that would pull crazy clean sql and loud spl for what it was, but it was AB and ate a lot of power. Then JL Audio released their very first monoblock Class D amp and I bought one of the first ones, and it walked away from the Kicker. Never went back to Kicker after that even though they were both great amps. In retrospect I wish I still had both of them.
I love how excited you sound!! Makes me smile.
Me too!
Man that is so cool 😎. My buddy has 2 or 3 old Rockford Fosgate punch amps that look similar to that kicker. One of them doesn't work at all but I think the other two do. It's been a LONG time since we hooked them up. Old-school stereo for the win 🤘
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Love seeing respectable numbers on low rms. I been wanting one of these Kicker quads!
Love how you left the windows dirty just for us to see the windows were rolled up. Lol. Looks just like my windows.
DUDE!!! you hit a 117 at 10hz with that door slam!! LOL Awesome vid as always big D, hey you and Parker and myself all have Toyotas, time to do some challenges and comparison.
I’ve had my Sequoia since 2004, that truck owes me nothing
Oh snap! See how much fun it is when you finally reach your goal.
Rounded off; 140db FTW!!! Imma going to try this with my 50 watt pc 225 precious power amp!
No one ever lost the SPL gear they use. I've been trying to decide on one but can't get opinions if they not listed. More so now that there is 2 in this video. Merry Christmas D....
Sorry for the late reply, thanks 🙏
Stopping by to show your channel love ☺️
I believe it. With 2 Phoenix gold sx 12s I hit 144.3 on dash sealed feeding 373rms to the pair in a prefab ported box tuned to 40hz. If I could share a photo I would. It was metered and clamped with a term lab
That is amazing to see 50w amp has that much power. Well put together Big D.
Well it’s really not a 59 watt amp if you think about , it the same as those fake watt reading on cheap amps , both lies lol
You can clearly hear the joy in his voice/reaction. Congratulations!
Fo sho
How on earth did I not know this chanel existed!? Subscribed to the Willistonlab one love your videos
Watching your great video after a hard day at work. Thanks!!🔥
Congrats Dereck! 226 watts??? Cone area FTW!
Time to change the name of this channel to Woofer Williston! 😁
Yeah boy .. 140 congrats on that . Keep up the good work
Thanks brother 👌
140 on 228 watts bro? That's just nutz not to mention a REALLY old amp. Just crazy. Great content
Thanks brother 👌
I did a 147.8 on music at a show a few weeks ago but it took a bit under 3k watts lol so again yo, with 228 watts that really, truly is incredible. I live kinda close to facekicker and he's doing a dyno of my beloved T-1500. I have abused and heavily used that amp for over a year so I'm stoked to see what it's putting out. Hopefully they're still being built well like that kicker amp!
Wow. So much work. You go Big D.
I’m not a fan of the work it takes to be SPL person. I’ll keep trying for y’all but…
@@wal2 I'm not an spl person. Quality sound trumps a blip bump. Just my opinion
WAY TO GO !!!!! THAT'S INCREDIBLE !!!!!
Nice! I'm very surprised u got it with that small amp. Great content!
I might have missed the reason you created this channel. But I like it. Please keep it up .
Love to see a test of this box powered by an old Orion 225 HCCA. 😎👍
Coming!
Awesome video man! Looking forward to more 😁👍✌✌
That little lamp played its guts out 👍
Great job big D I share in your excitement
Very nice, great job man!
I'm running 4 CS 6x9s from 3 years ago on 12watts. It makes my doors flex at 92db sensitivity.
Love it. Awesome video Big D
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hello, I was wondering what the consensus is on how this quad box sounds on daily driver music? More in the lines of 70's through 2000's Rock Music? Test tones and various amp configurations are one thing, but how does it sound daily? I enjoy grooving to the tones of a bass guitar while a double kick drum is kicking and not just digital 808 generated tones, etc. I know this can vary widely based on what amplifier is powering it and the overall load that each vehicle can cover. By chance let's say the box will receive at least 1,200 watts per side at 14.5V. (2,400 watts total on two each way old 20 yr old amplifiers w/ 370 amp alternator upgrade) Any real world daily driver / reviewers out there?
I love that kicker S50s amp
140?!? On 225w?!? Crazy. These vids are fun.
That's why they called them "cheater amps" back in the day.
Congratulations!
Thanks brother 👍
That was awesome! Good job! That old Kicker amp was asleep for so many years and you woke it up to compete in the new Kicker Olympics! Hahahahah.
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Awesome!
I play 160-162 regularly. You’re neighbors will be fine with 140. Lol. 140 with 262 watts is damn impressive. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Your neighbor’s really like you 😝
@@wal2 my closest neighbor is about 1/4 mile, next closest is over half mile. I live on 13 acres in the middle of no where, and so far nobody has said anything 🤞if I was in a neighborhood I wouldn’t be playing anything that loud just out of respect.
I almost called it, with 138. Wow, nice!!
Nice not bad. Low watts and a good SPL score✌😎
I been experimenting for the last couple of months I have one 15 psi platform 4 beefed up to 3500 rms the subwoofer box is made out of maple and it's 5.30 cubic feet tuned at 32hertz then I have two sundown xv3 12s tuned to 32hertz in a mdf box 5.75 cubic feet?Then I have two massive xlr 12s in a birch box 4.46 cubic feet also tuned at 32 hertz? I have a 99Towncar so it's quite a bit of room in my trunk?Well overall the psi out performs the other set of twelve and it has less power than them just because you have a lot of power doesn't mean you are going to get more bass response?
262 watts out of a 25 year old 50 watt kicker amp, not to bad. I grew up in the 90's and remember how hard me and my friends systems hit and only had 500 to 1500 watt setups. We all had JL subs and Rockford amps and those 1st gen version 1 JL subs were amazing. The output was insane for the small amount of power they needed. JL's original version 1 subs were the best sounding subs ever made in my opinion. I would love to get my hands on some 10, 12, 15, 18 inch W3's or W6's. I wonder if there's any subs today that sound just like those old school JL's, if there is any subs like them, can someone let me know what they are?
Sundown SA series are very comparable to the old school JL W6’s and people are gonna hate me for saying this, but the Rockville K9 subs are as well. And the 12” is only $120
Way to go on meeting your goal. I seriously had no idea that the L7R was equivalent to the previous L5. It makes me wonder what the other variants compare to. I have a variety of L7s on hand.
Seems to be great compromise between budget and baller sub
Awesome content Big Dee, how does this Amp / Sub box combo with the 262-268 watts translate to music output. Would it be loud enough or underpowered output?
Depends if 140dB is loud enough for you. It’s more than loud enough for me 😬
I gave my son this same amp he beats 2 scar 10" subs sounds good back in the 90s it was running 4 15" cheap Rockford in a s10 pickup ext cab hit 143 at a stereo comp.
Slammin'!
Like the JL autos and the quad box to.
😬👍
Big D with hearing protection what? I'm jk Big D doing his magic I cant believe you did this with that setup.
Did you say something? Oops gotta take off these muffs, sorry 😜
Hearing protection with 140😂 140 is nothing. I sit in 163-164 frequently. That hurts. Prolly why I’m nearly deaf in my left ear.
@@Van1018s It's been said that 120db is the threshold of pain, so I'd venture to say that +40 to that would probably kick like a mule! 😅
Me and my singular 1k watt sub barely crack triple digits (though it was meant to be a budget SPQ system), so I can hardly imagine what 160+ would feel like!
You do SPL comps?
@@RAW_Reality 120 is nothing. A cheap single 8 from Walmart on 100 watts will do 120. 164 is about where it starts to hurt. Loudest vehicle I ever sat in was 171. That almost killed me.
@@RAW_Reality And 140 is nothing. My 16 year daughters daily driver does a 145.7 on the glass. 3 pretty cheap 12’s on about 3000 watts. And it’s not even loud. I mean some people might think it’s loud, but I’ve been in car audio for 28 years. And a 145 sounds like nothing.
Awesome 👌 Big D !
The first real subs I had in car audio were kickers. I had many many different ones. kicker comps. I had the ones with the gold letters. I forgot the name. Now I had L5 etc.
I still have a single syllabic eight for some reason that I just found in the closet
Very nice on that setup.
Thanks brother 👌
That is cool! I found it interesting that the test you did aligns with the math.
228 watts = 140dB
By the math it takes 10 times the power (watts) to double the SPL (10 dB increase).
So 2,280 watts to do 150 dB, which is in the ballpark of the testing you did with a much larger amp.
The perfect math problem for bassheads!
So 20k for 160db, a salt 12k bare minimum
I just did 3 Savard hi-q 12 d2 wired to 1.33 on a DB 4900.1. 5.93 ported. Tuned to 33.5hz. In a 2015 expedition. Xs power d6500. Stock alternator. Big 3. All sky high 1/0. Any way did a 146.7 at 37hz in the passenger kick. 147.5 in windshield at 40 hz. Because of the low tuning I’m still getting 145 dB at 30hz. I had some problems with the Savard subs putting about 3000 watts to each one, voicecoils shattered, not thermal, shattered, but if you keep it down in the 1500 range they are very good subs for the money.
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Thats crazy to hit 140db with less than 300 watts. Nice job buddy. Not so dummie noe 😄👍
You must have not heard or seen any of Ronnie Smith's records? No disrespect to Big D but his setup is far from efficient.
teehee the pollen and debris on the glass was proof enough visually but the tapping on the glass actually "sealed" the deal :)
Big D, did you see the reflection of that cool dude in your camera ? Wild. 😜
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Why did the meter that showed on your iphone/pod show such a high resting spl before you started the tone? 82db resting noise floor? What am I missing?
Anyway, another cool video. I love seeing low power rigs.
Nice magic box
Damn, I was so close with my 141db guess. I knew it would do well.
Good guess!
hot dayum! this brings me back to the days where we would clean out all of wal marts stock. Jensen, JVC, Kenwood, Scosche, Pioneer and Sony. we would go to competitions with some seriously ghetto and cheap setups. and there would be guys who spent 1500 dollars 2500 dollars 4500 dollars on stereos. and we would beat them using a pair of 10's and a modded Jensen amp.
👌😬👍
Sold on the quad box...now the amp I think I'll go fosgate..
Impressive asf man
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Way kool wheelie Williston
Love to get them
nice job man!
Did you have your sunroof cover slid back? Think it's louder that way
Back when amps were worth a shit!! I still have my zr600 and still works perfectly
So you hit 140 on less than 300 watts or am I missing something? If so that is awesome!
"Dance on top of it" 😆
How long do u think the amp would power all 4 before over-heating & shutting off?
I wanna see the quad box on punch 200 vs Orion hcca1500
I would LOVE to meter my four 15's with my Rockford Fosgate 3002 amp! You did a dyno video of one before, Rated 50 watts 4 ohms x 2 channels (haha!)
Got my meter😁!NICE SCORE!!!
did you see just for fun how loud it got with the windows down?
That's cool
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I wonder what my hcca 250 at a .5 ohm would do on my two xtr 15s from 1996 or 1997 But I have a much smaller extended cab Colorado
If your scared of the amp blowing if it ever did send it to Sam in the UK 😂
Big D, you could just vinyl wrap the hood for now. The rest of the paint seems to be in good condition 🤔
Try a punch 150 25-to life! Spl
i guessed that no way
Wow
I see you use Filmic Pro Big D! I’ve been using it since 2013.
Did they change the rules you can't crack a window? DB drag and usac used to allow it.
For this challenge vehicle must be sealed and meter on windshield
I didn’t quite catch that.. Is it wired to 1 Ohm or 4 Ohm? Super impressive! Nice work Big D!
Hey there, each pair of subs is wired at 2OHMs. So there are two sets of speaker inputs on this quad box. Each input is pre-wired for a 2OHM load output. The subs are 2ohm dual voice coil so you can pull them out to wire them in other ways if needed.
Nice number
Nice bro
7:20 correction: *visors (Not headrest)
Great video! 👍🏻
Dancing on the Top Might Help. I used to Slam my Door. 😂
I can see that JL hiding and that's why I like you.
How is it 4 12's on 50w when it went up to & past 200w ?
Still trying to see 140 on 50w.
Ahh...an alternate channel. Ok better sub here too.
Yeah sorry this one will have less edited content and some non audio stuff too
I want see what a quad box powered with a boss audio "1100" watt amp would do. Just for shits
What’s the best spl meter app for iPhone? Cool video btw!
You need a pressure sensor and an app. The SSA APM-X meter is the newer version of what I’m using
Yeeeeeeeah boooy!!!! Congrats brotha, you got it! Ya big dummy lol!!
Yeah boi
With no distortion?
What from an old school amp bring them back
138.2 db 1-95’ jbl gti 12” and a pioneer premier 200 watt amp running on one channel, non bridged. After watching these I’m curious to the actual power rating of my premier amp.
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I have to get my kicker 40ss off my collection wall and hook up to my 6-12” Phoenix gold Xmax subs . See what it does just for kicks
I see my future self in this one ....lol