First Class Accommodations on SS United States
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- In this episode we're on board the passenger liner SS United States and taking a close look at the spaces that the first class passengers would have spent their time.
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It is crazy that this ship is one of the few if not the only one that makes an Iowa class look slow.
Fact
Hmm I dont know. The Nimitz class is as fast if not slightly faster, yet much larger and heavier. If you disregard displacement, there is a whole lot of faster ships.
@@Ganiscol I think the Enterprise CVN-65 may still hold the record for the fastest carrier ever.
@@edwardpate6128 With United States having top maintained speed of 42nts what was Enterprises?
@@firstsgt279 I served on an SSBN rather than a CVN, but the actual answer to both is the same: the actual top speed is classified.
But there are two insights we can glean from public records.
First, in 1996 President Clinton ordered the Enterprise to support the cruise missile reprisals against Saddam Hussein’s attack on the Kurds in Operation Desert Strike. It’s initial reposition was from the Mediterranean to the Persian Gulf, an approximately 5,000 mile cruise that was completed in 5 days, and which included passing through the Suez Canal (which requires no-wake speed of about 5 knots for the roughly 24 hours the transit takes). If you assume a constant speed the whole way (and you can’t because of the Suez Canal) then the Enterprise maintained 41 knots for 5 days. If you assume that was really done in 4 days because they lost a day in the canal then she did better than 50 knots. While her exact location at the beginning was classified so we don’t know the exact distance travelled, we can safely conclude that the Enterprises Flank Speed was at least in the high 40’s, if not the low 50’s.
Secondly, the top “maintainable” speed means something very different on a nuclear ship than one burning bunker fuel: a nuclear ship (of any kind) can generally maintain her top speed indefinitely, while one burning bunker fuel has to refuel surprisingly often to maintain that speed. As a set of examples: the Iowas burned about 2,500 gallons per hour at 15 knots, 5,000 gph at 22 knots, and 15,000 gph at 30 knots (the Navy didn’t publish BB fuel consumption at max speed, but only at a set of standard speeds - 30 knots being the highest), requiring them to refuel at least every 5,000 miles - and 2 million gallons takes a while to pump, so whether you do it at sea and maintain 10 knots or stop in port to pump faster you’re taking a bit hit in long distance average speed. Any of the CVNs, on the other hand, can maintain 35 knots (or more, potentially a lot more) indefinitely - and since it’s an aircraft carrier they can even maintain that while bringing in food replenishment.
So in the context of nuclear vs conventional, “maintainable” really don’t mean the same thing.
It's amazing how natural Ryan looks in front of the camera now. He's come a long way from looking a bit like a deer in headlights in the early days.
😅😅😅
Please save the SS United States ship
She need help 😭
one thing that they should do is a detailed digital scan so they can create a 3 D model of the SS United States and recreate what she looked like in the 1950s. Similar to what Titanic Honor and Glory
If it hasn't been saved since 1969, I'm not very optimistic.
It's sad it's been left to rot away.
Having Ryan do this tour, with his ship expertise, makes these empty areas come alive.
Great job!
That promenade still looks beautiful.
I love how you can still see outlines for the way things were within the ship, as well as your talking about the fittings being in museums.
It'll never happen, but... imagine if we could put it all back...
I also love the little detail of you walking through the imaginary doors in your imaginary stateroom!
Great presentation.
You can still see the outline where Nixon tossed his cookies mid ocean after the "Checkers" incident.
Yes it could be restored, if people would contact their Houe of Reprentatives and Senators.
Donate to the SSUnited States Conservatory.
Every little bit helps.
This ship needs to be preserved just like any military ship or historical building.😮
You mentioned "The Poseidon Adventure " movie which I believe came out in 1972. I remember seeing this movie in the Theater with our family and my Aunt yelled out as Poseidon was capsizing " you will never get me on any damn boat ". The whole theater erupted in laughter. Thanks Ryan and staff for this series on United States. Hope to see more of it including the bridge area.
Shelley Winters saved that film! Of course Leslie Nielson was the CO, lol.
Poseidon adventure was filmed on the queen Mary it was actually based on a true story that took place on the queen Mary when she was in her war time configuration a 90 foot wave hit her while she was carrying close to 10,000 troops. The ship listed to a 50° angle and remain that way for several minutes before slowly righting herself. Queen Mary also holds the record for the most amount of passengers transported across the ocean at 15,000 troops during WWII.
Also, the Queen Mary was the ship that held the blue ribbon record that the SS United States stole from her after 14 years as the fastest ship in the world.
@@bighohnster 50 degree angle? Wow. I bet they all thought they were going down.
What did she say during "Jaws"? If they would have just put Shelly Winters somewhere low in the ship they could have rode it out.
Hi Rayn Szimanski and crew. As a South African with a generous curiosity in naval and maritime subjects, I unfortunately find myself stranded in what is basically the geographical center of my country. As far away from any ocean as a South African can get in this country. In addition South Africa does not have a good history of maintaining land locked museums, even if some of them are only one curator in size, let alone museum ships like Battleship New Jersey. So I just want to thank you an your team for brining very fascinating stories and information about the battleship "because you have one" as well as a number of other ships. The only thing I'm missing from your videos is the smell of the ocean, but I'm guessing future TH-cam programmers will find a solution to that. Keep up the great work and Thanks again.
In 1951, the cost of a First Class cabin was $295 and up. Cabin class was $200, and Tourist class was $160. That First Class price in 2023 dollars is $1837. That is not a bad price for a First Class suite. If it is per Cabin, instead of per person, it is a bargain. $3700 is still not a bad price.
Not bad at all!!
I am wondering what the size of the cabin might have been. From the video it appears to me to be approx. 12x24 ft. exclusive of the hallway and bathroom area.
What strikes me is the price difference. Its not even double the price of tourist.
Those prices must be for the SS America because the SS/US was christened in 1952
I think QE II is a lot more. If you want a ship that actually leaves the dock that is.
Museuem curators are more aware of their surroundings than others. I only inspect 360 degrees around me, but Ryan inspects 365 degrees! This is why I'll never have my own Iowa class battleship.
5 degrees of safety overlap, just to make sure you don't accidently come up a degree or two short in your inspection and miss something 😉
Well not with that attitude
My family moved to the U.S. from England in 1967. I was 12. We left Southhampton on the SS United States on January 28 and arrive in New York on February 2. It was a winter crossing and for a few days I did not do well. It was interesting seeing the enclosed promenade deck as I threw up there one day during the crossing. I remember the Tourist theater and remember seeing "After the Fox" with Peter Sellers. My uncle who moved to the U.S. about 20 years before us had some connections and we went to the First Class lounge to be processed through immigration. There was a tug boat strike when we reached New York. We had to dock without tugs. I think it took about 2 hours to dock with ropes being thrown and we gradually moved into the slip.
Very fascinating! Thanks for sharing. Do you retain anything of an English accent?
Great historical memories!
Thanks for sharing. My great grandparents did the same on the RMS Majestic in 1925.
Interestingly, the gentleman who was my boss at my previous job. Came over from Europe on the last sailing of this ship. He said that coming from a farm in Latvia to steerage class on an ocean liner was a mind blowing experience.
latvia
No steerage class on this ship, it was call tourist class
@@MrJeep75 Every time I hear steerage class I think of poor 1900's immigrants down in the bilges of the Titanic, with the propeller shafts overhead, hanging there clothes on the rudder cables. In Victorian times maybe it was that bad.
So you mean much worse.
@@davidmarquardt9034 On the Olympic class, the steerage was much better than on older ships, though.
I love your videos on the SS United States! What an amazing ship. I sure hope someone can save it and turn it into a museum.
The 1960s feature comedy film "Munsters Go Home" was partly filmed on United States I think
In my own direct experience (yes!), the most luxurious thing was the 1st class dining room. As a USAF lieutenant colonel, my dad rated first class passage back home after three years in Germany (and en route to Vietnam) in April 1967, Bremerhaven to New York via Southampton and Le Havre. Every dinner was black tie except first night out and last night before arrival in New York. My dad's mess dress uniform got more use on the single voyage than it had in the whole time we were overseas. You had an assigned table and the same waiter at each meal (I still remember the name of ours, a Scot named Archie Morrow), and the service was the best I've ever known. Teen center (I was 13), free movies, swimming pool (indoors, with cold sea water sloshing back and forth), the classic experience of warm bouillon on the lounge chairs on deck in the afternoon. An incredible ship.
This was fascinating and brings back great memories. I came back from Europe on the SSUS in 1964. My father was in the Air Force and the government bought a certain number of tickets to subsidize the ship. Pretty classy way to travel for a 13 year old! Maybe you were standing in our cabin 😀
What a crying shame, the condition of the SSUS. She could have had the same fate as the SS Rotterdam, which is a fine hotel and museum ship. Now her custodians has a colossal mountain to climb to restore her.
I want to see this ship saved, fully restored to seaworthy, passenger ready condition, modernized and upgraded where required or desirable for crew and passenger comfort and safety, and put back out to see carrying passengers on some very special cruise tours.
Wonderful video in every way but one: the frequent references to "cruises." S.S. United States did not do "cruises"; the ship was built for transportation.
Thank you. It was an ocean liner NOT a cruise ship.
"Guys with the white thing on their arm"...hahaha...you can tell Ryan is a ritzy man of stature and class. 🤣
The ones with the MD 20/20.
12:42 - You're correct - It wouldn't be a "cruise" - post-WW2, or 1950s or 1960s. It would be a voyage, or more exactly, a CROSSING.
Not your fault, but most folks born after 1980 wouldn't know what ships were primarily used for, pre-jet age, and even for some years beyond the dawn of the jet.
Liners were called that because they crossed an ocean along established paths, or 'lines'! 😀
As far as I've seen, I'm really impressed at the good condition the ship is in. If you only saw the outside, you could be forgiven for thinking that the inside was just as bad.
Not the modular cabin types of modern cruise ships! Back when they made things to last! 👍🤠 You guys being on different sides of the river, need to collaborate more often! Nice to have the mix of various ships.
Thanks for doing this, Ryan. The future of this ship always seems very much up in the air and the more attention we can bring to its existence, the better. It's a breathtaking sight and I still remember the first time I saw it years ago.
I would love to see some Eccentric billionaire buy and restore this ship to its 1950s glory.
Elon Musk should have bought this instead of Twitter.
I'm sure you are aware, but the term "cruiseship" is incorrect in reference to the SS United States or other vessels designed and built for transatlantic crossings. Those vessels are oceanliners, designed and built stronger, faster and seaworthy which cruiseships are not. The SSUS, like all oceanliners, where built with the purpose to get from point A to point B on a schedule, get there on time, regardless of weather and seas. Each passenger had their own purpose and destination in mind as a reason for being aboard, a cruiseship passenger hasn't a destination, only purpose is to relax are enjoy. In case of bad weather, those shallow draft, lightly constructed vessels must head for the nearest port for safety. As a former SSUS passenger, I can say that the SSUS oceanliner plowed ahead on schedule through the North Atlantic like a high speed train at 35 knots, the experience of moving at that speed is unlike anything you'll ever know aboard a cruiseship at 21 knots or less. On the SSUS, whether inside or out, you'd need to hold on. Stored deck chairs where lashed together, those left unattended frequently blew off, walking on deck almost impossible, but a crossing on the Big U was the thrill of a lifetime. The SSUS's design, construction, safety and abilities is taught today at the US Naval Academy as the most ideal ship ever.
I'll never use a ships elevator. Not after hearing about the people that died stuck in the Costa Concordias elevators when the power went out. Terrible way to go.
I think it would have been cool if Ryan had dressed up for this. Rented a suit, combed his hair, shaved... You know, done the James Bond thing. Just a thought. ;-)
Not a chance.
Wonderful tour, thanks! I was raised as an army brat in the 50's and 60's and so crossed the Atlantic on ships five (5) times before I was 18. Two trips were on US naval transports (USNS General Hodges and USNS General Rose) and then three trips on the American Export Lines liners Constitution and Independence. Those were wonderful experiences, even for a young boy. Of course the civilian liners were much more luxurious, not too different from USS United States. The military ships were adequate and not shabby at all, just not fitted out quite as ritzy. Talk about a long gone era.
You only stepping through "Doors" while showing off the cabin was making me laugh. Great work as always.
Perhaps he watched the TV show " WKRP "
Why
@@bobroberts2371 never heard of it, what is that?
@@oaw117 See the vid " WKRP in Cincinnati: The Complete Series (5/6) Les Asks Herb to Respect His Imaginary Door " on the channel " Shout! Factory "
Wearing black tie in the morning? Black tie is strictly evening wear, you barbarian!
I remember the ship being used taking the Munster family to England in MUNSTER GO HOME. Great Movie
Aww, come on, Ryan! I bet you’d make a great enrichment facilitator on a high end cruise ship like Cunard Line or Holland America Line. I know I’d sail with you.
Renovation work? Sorry Ryan. The wall panels were embedded with asbestos. The interior was ripped out by a firm/ shipyard in Ukraine. There was NO subsequent Renovation or reconstruction after the asbestos removal. As a matter of fact. Nobody was allowed in the ship unless they were TOTALLY PPE for over one year.
My parents cruised on her in November 1957...I was born in the first week of July 1958😮😮😮
I hope we get an episode with the bridge, navigation and radio rooms.
Average Cruise ship is "glamorous" like a Best Western, perhaps a Hilton. Nothing like QEII or SS France in the slightest.
The Motel 6 of liners. Pets allowed.
When I was 12 we got to tour the SS United States before it left New York in the summer of 1961. For 50 cents, in those days the public was allowed on board to look around or see people off before the ship sailed for Europe. We went all over the ship and I remember the energy and excitement of all the people about to go on this big adventure. I remember the band playing Rogers and Hart... "I'll take Manhattan...". Back then, before security was such an issue, they posted the passenger list all over the ship so you could check to see if one of your fellow passengers might be a member of your country club. Names I recognized were Mr and Mrs Walt Disney, Mr and Mrs Fred MacMurray, Mr Tommy Kirk. Found later they had filmed part of a movie on board, "Bon Voyage" about a family trip to Europe, released in 1962.
My family crossed the Pacific from Japan on a similar liner when I was two. My mother said I looked really cute at the lifeboat drill barfing all over my little life jacket...
Hi Ryan, Now here is a challenge for you... Restoring the SS United States!
Thank you for the video, I grew up in awe of the SS United States and her sister ships, SS America and SS Independence.
The difference I think between the US and the cruise ships I've been on is the elegance of the US. Cruise ships tend to be flashier and gimmicky. They lack the class of the older liners.
So do their passengers. They want fun and debachery not elegance.
The ship still seems to be in okay condition. Not having any interior to look after anymore, probably makes it more cost efficient for the conservatory to continue maintaining the vessel in its current state.
Hopefully something comes of the ship someday.
It does look better that I feared, but it would still cost a few fortunes and then some more to get it in any shape.
I sailed on the SS France (aka Norwegian Cruiselines "Norway") a couple times in the mid 1990s. Overall, a similar style ship with similar accommodations. Definitely a nicer look than the modern stuff.
Thank you so much for filming this ship. I've seen videos before of the interiors but yours was the best for actually giving a perspective on what the interior layout is actually like.
Really good of you Ryan to help the SS United States people with promoting their ship. It's a very interesting contrast to Battleship New Jersey. Thank you.
I was on this ship in 1955.
Well, actually I was in my Mom’s stomach 😮
Then why weren't you digested?
Love the Poseidon Adventure reference lol
Same here. Gave me a real chuckle.
It’s a disgrace what has happened to this once beautiful ocean liner. The interior is GONE. Many development projects have stalled for lack of funding. Have driven by it many times when I have stayed in downtown Philadelphia. As the deterioration continues, it seems like it just would be easier to scuttle it and turn it into reef for sea life.
From from the information I have seen, this ship was the largest fastest moving physical object ever constructed and it may never be exceeded. Ships may be a lot bigger now but they are not "ocean greyhounds" any more. As a kid in the 1960s when I saw this and many other ocean liners from the beach at Southsea, here is an anecdote. We knew that some time after the ships had passed in the distance, a huge bow wave would hit the beach. We would watch visitors from London stay where they were with all their stuff close to the edge of the sea enjoying themselves. We would move up the beach a fair few feet and wait for these happy tourists to be engulfed suddenly by this large wave- ruining their picnics. This we thought, was very funny! Kids can be horrible...
Thanks for the upload. First off please remember S.S. United States was a liner not a cruise ship. They are different animals. When you see the promenade deck devoid of any furniture etc you realise just how vast they were on the great liners. No way would I ever contemplate paying for one of today’s cruise monsters, not because of safety issues but because they are so damned hideous inside and out. I remember as a kid seeing some of the legendary liners including United States, Queen Elizabeth, Nieuw Amsterdam, France etc and they looked so beautiful.
The who thing is gutted. As much as I hate to say it, I really don’t see how they can ever bring her back as a museum ship. So dumb how much they hurt her!!!
Put it back together, First Lady, ship of state, Flag ship of American. Last one there are no more, your one and only chance!
The First Class Dining Room is nice but I LOVE the Promenade. It's so long!
This is an interesting tour. My family did not travel first class, but we did sail on this ship from Scotland to New York in May of 1958. I do have memories of parts of the ship. I do remember waking up one morning when a storm with near hurricane winds and 25 foot waves was really tossing us around. That was the only time I was ever seasick, (this was the second of my four Atlantic crossings on ocean liners) and that passed quickly and I was fine. I did try to go out on deck that morning, but after going only two or three steps beyond the door, and holding on the the railing for dear life, I decided I should go back inside. Of the three ships on which I sailed, the United States is the only still in existence. I later crossed the Atlantic both ways on the Empress of Britain, which eventually became the first ship of one of the major cruise lines of today.
The dining room is elegant. It was much more social when all meals were served at fixed times in a formal dining room. I hate the open dining concept. The promenade deck however is closed and feels claustrophobic. Were the windows always kept shut?
I was in Philadelphia recently and saw her through the chain fence, so sad and forlorn looking, neglected and forsaken, why can't Bill Gates or someone with that kind of money take a personal interest in this piece of history? This is the most beautiful ship ever built and once gone will never be replaced.
Is it true that designer Gibbs had the entire superstructure made in aluminum?
I commented on another Big U video about my working as a first class bell boy, seeing the dining room in this video reminded me of another job I had on the big U, kitchen utility. We went around in the galley with a cart and delivered empty garbage cans and picked up the full cans. When the cart was full we went to a room on either port or starboard side and and got the cans of the cart. Port or starboard side depended on the wind, as we had to lift the cans up to a large opening, a sort of door with hinged at the top, across the opening from side to side was a large steel tube, situated such that you could tip a garbage can on the edge of the opening and the can would tilt over and be caught by the tube..out went the garbage. When it was rough we stacked up the full cans secured with chains. You can imagine how much a garbage can full of food (80%) water weighs..at the end of that trip I was pretty buffed. But I also ate well filet mignon for dinner?
"I watched 'Posiden Adventure' when I was way too young and you could pay me enough to get me on a cruise ship"
Same.
she was gutted in India to remove the asbestos back in the 80's and nothing has been done with her outside of slowly rotting as long as i have been alive and im 54, she is just going to rot away till unsafe then scrapped or sunk, id love to be proven wrong but its very unlikely that i will
Such a shame that this ship is lingering at its dock in Philadelphia. Everytime I drive by the area I catch a glimpse and wonder if it will be there the next time I drive by.
And the only pieces of wood allowed on the whole ship was a grand Piano and the butchers chopping block.
I had a girlfriend who worked on the QE2 in the 90s and I remember her telling me the film theatre on the ship would always be showing the Poseidon Adventure. Lucky that Ryan wasn't on that ship.
Ahh nice, a new drinking game: Drink every time Ryan mentions his grandeur!
" _You_ are the curator Mister Szimanski. You've _always_ been the curator."
HEERS JONNY
This little shit is calling for help. I expect you will know what to do. Discipline with extreme predjudice.
Poseidon Adventure….Man get a grip….grow up.
Very interesting video. I am glad you are showing your support and helping out the SS United States. I think showing this on your channel will help. I too, have never been on a cruise and have no desire to do so. An Atlantic crossing is another matter but I doubt it will ever happen. I do hope they are able to save the SS United States but frankly, I am not overly optimistic.
Many of those red chairs and the tables from the First Class Dining Room were in a restaurant in Nags Head, North Carolina; I ate there once over 20 years ago. I believe it is since closed and the furniture went to the Mariners Museum.
As far as the interior being stripped to raise funds to restore the ship, it's a complicated story. After being taken out of service in 1969, the ship was mothballed in completely operational condition in Norfolk or thereabouts for many years. Then in 1984, there was an auction at which everything that could be carried out or unbolted was sold (like the aforementioned chairs and tables) which Wikipedia says was "to pay creditors" -- but the walls, ceilings, etc. were still intact. The real total destruction of her interior came in the 1990's after she was towed to Turkey and later to Ukraine. The interior was gutted to remove all the asbestos. It's a shame, because asbestos if it is sealed behind walls, etc. and is not crumbling, will not kill you. It could have been managed without effectively destroying the ship.
How much does it weigh compared to an Iowa Class? 😅
Thank you to Ryan and the Conservancy for this tour through the ship. Not something I would ever seen, with explanations.
Maybe that is why I won’t swim I’m the ocean
I watched a movie with a shark in it 😂😂😂
I don't think Ryan has ever been on a ship that actually moves.
Who knew _Museum Curators_ were of such high and noble social position! 🫡💜 Loved this tour!! 😊💜
I had maybe heard of this ship before, but it's only now with this tour by Ryan that I feel that I'm really being introduced to it. I'm both relieved that the ship still seems to exist in relatively good condition, and saddened at seeing it stripped down like this.
Even if it cannot get all of the original fittings back, replicas could be made, and maybe it'd then be able to serve as an excellent museum and movie set backdrop for many decades to come.
Indeed. But it would be really expensive.
A degree per day?
Expensive? Yes, but how much do we pay in tax dollars to restore military ships or historic buildings?
This is a great video series! I've always wanted to see the interior of the SS United States as it is now! I didn't realize the hull plates were riveted though. I thought by the 1950s, hulls were all welded.
SS United States, the perfect metaphor for the United States.
I'll save the musing about the pool for tomorrow
Love the united states video gibbs was a great naval architect!
So question. Are there any dates for the deck to deck tours this year?
I was a bit surprised to see rivets on the hull, I figured they would be welding most of the hull by the 1950s.
Ryan i found it halarious how you made sure to use the passage ways and doors
Sailed on her in 1965 with my family
I love the ship, but I don't care for the furnishings. I am more appreciative of what the Titanic had inside. That was elegant.
It was designed to be converted to a military troop ship if necessary, which forbade fancy decoration. Also, the style of this period is in keeping with what we today call "mid century modern" - a restrained, and intentionally subdued appearance
@@mr.goodpliers6988 I grew up in the 1960s. Technically a boomer. I am sort of a weird mix of Titanic style at times, but I can also appreciate the mid century modern Mad Men, 1967 Corvette, Rat Pack cool, martinis, marble floors, Eames chair, danish modern, teak, black leather, chrome , Mcintosh tube amp stereo glowing that cool blue glow . . I also like Lord Goring's house in the movie An Ideal Husband. Googling "mid century modern" gives me some really great interiors. An interior designer would call me nuts I suppose . I watched your 1964 Impala SS video. One of my favorite year of Impala. I also like the 63-64 Caddy.
@@mr.goodpliers6988 truly bizarre what youtube comments of mine get deleted . I am a baby boomer, grew up in the 1960s - 1970s. I like much of the mid century modern lifestyle, lava lamps, 1967 corvette, Mad Men, marble floors, black leather, chrome, Eames chair, martini, Frank Sinatra, Mcintosh tube stereo with blue lights. I also liked Lord Goring's house in "An Ideal Husband" ( Edwardian) . I saw your 1964 Impala video which is cool . I also like the 1963-1964 Caddy. Back in the early 1980s, I liked Art Deco.
Great content. Your videos on the _United States_ have brought her to life more than any other videos I've seen. The photo of the two gentlemen in formal wear coming down the staircase is fantastic. I also found the artwork behind them -- what looks like a seal of the United States and also flying songbirds in aluminum or stainless steel -- attractive and memorable. I wonder what's become of it.
Is she being preserved or scrapped?
Yes.
Thank you for this very interesting tour. Have always been fascinated with the history of passenger ships. I remember, as a kid, looking at pictures of the United States and thinking it was the most glamorous thing I'd ever seen. What made me wary of sailing on one, was not Poseidon Adventure (the '72 version). I was in my teens by then, so there was more an interest the special effects and set design, than fear of the ship being capsized. My fear came from the first time I saw the 1950's version of Titanic, in the early 60's. I think it was the first time I realized that, yes, death is scary, but knowing you are about to die, and not be able to do much of anything about it, is absolutely terrifying. At the same time, it sparked an interest in the tragedy, and I devoured every piece of info I could find. Today my hesitance is more about being in a space with 2-4000 people.
I love watching Ryan respecting the non-existent walls 🤣🤣🤣
As a bell boy I had the authority to order drinks at that bar in the ball room, in my bell area there was an unused room, I believe it was perhaps a small physical rehab space or something, anyway the deck steward and one other guy used it as a hang out. Before too long they were sending me up to the bar for a round for us three, an afternoon on the North Atlantic.
Do tell, Dean.
I'd love to hear more. Like like your seafarer view of the landlubbers.
She's been saved ! Open for business
Great video for a really great ship. Please film more areas if possible. There was a fairly large first class theater and a indoor swimming pool on a lower deck. There were also some outdoor areas too for people to enjoy.
Ryan is walking though walls...Just another day on the boat.
I was lucky enough to cross the Atlantic in First class on the United States, twice in First clan on the France, and once in first class on the Michelangelo. The United States felt the most "utilitarian" The France was by far the most luxurious and had the best food - even I recognized that as a kid.
I'd really like to hear stories of your experience: time out on thexweather decks, card games, and movie night. What was that like?
The SS United States was built to be fireproof, because of the sinking of the SS Normadie at the pier in New York due to a fire.
It probably seemed utilitarian, because everything was made of metal, plus it was the ArtDeco age.
Only the finest first class dining and cabin for the most distinguished of curators like Ryan 😂
Gopher would bring him room service. No tux for Ryan. He does bring his own paparatzi though.
Poor thing is just gutted..
Would troop ships be death traps today with how a anti ship missile would gut the interior?
Ships in general are death traps today, but not because of anti ship missiles. Still literally almost no reliable methods to getting a submarine out of your waters before its already sunk something.
Probably less than transport aircraft. Plane gets hit - you're dead; ship gets hit you have a chance to get overboard and picked up by friendlies or lifeboats.
@@HaddaClu Depends on what you're transporting, if you're a fuel tanker or hauling ammo then you're probably not making it out of that one.
Just needs a good repaint and interior and electrical put back in and she would be ready to be used, not sailing of course
As a storage locker.
I wonder which Poseidon Adventure Ryan had watched? I guess the first one. The ~2007(?) movie was kinda fun. And there's a segment in a Simpsons episode that exactly parallels it! S17E18
that bow looks sharp enough to slice cheese! fascinating to see the bones of the ship. hopefully she can be restored to her former glory.
I love this look at the SSUS! Thanks to you & your photo crew for bringing this incredible view to us 😀
I never understood why the USN didn't take her over and turn her into a fast cargo vessel. She could rapidly get equipment anywhere in the event of an emergency at least twice as fast as the military sealift command ships.
Large cargo aircraft are much faster.
There is a class of fast cargo ships with comparable speeds! The Algol-Class are 8 fast cargo transport ship. There is two docked close to where I live and I have been obsessed with these ships since I was a kid!
@@notacleverman9438 These ships could do 33 knots match the Iowas.- They were referred to as SL-7 by the original owner. The navy bought them cheap in the early 80 (they quickly became TOO expensive fuel costs) and modified then - these 8 ships delivering 13% of all the cargo transported to Middle East for Desert Shield & Storm. The during the 1990s the Navy & Army designed had built 15 Ships (either Avondale in New Orleans or NASSCO in San Diego) near such in size- but only 24 Knots speed. The SL-7s also have a very distict appearance - I call them Starships- all for Navy names were named after Stars.
Because they have C 5As.
SS/US could be a fantastic hospital ship.
My new favorite ship
I liked travelling on the Superfast XI, one of the ferries of Super Fast Ferries, who operate between Italy and Greece.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Superfast_XI
This one travels at 29 knots, not SS United States speeds, but still quite fast and gives some impression of what the SS US was like.