Davidson explainations are well structured, coming from a professional teacher; Goleman insights are extremely useful though carefully introduced. Great pair, they completes each other perfectly. Thank you all for sharing! 🙏
The sentence “The after is the before of the next during” can be understood as a philosophical or cyclical perspective on time and events. Here’s a breakdown: 1. “The after is the before”: • What is considered “after” one event becomes “before” for the subsequent event. • Example: After finishing breakfast, that moment is now before lunch. 2. “Of the next during”: • The “during” represents the ongoing phase of the next event. • Example: The time after breakfast is before the period during lunch. Simplified Meaning: Life and time are continuous. What comes after one moment will eventually serve as the setup (the before) for the next phase. Everything is interconnected in a flow of events.
MEDITATION DEFINITION & TIME VS. MEDITATION TECHNIQUE - Thanks for this video! First, real Meditation is "Focused concentration on God" and the highest purpose of Meditation. This is the original Meditation technique discovered by the advanced Monks of India over 5,000 years ago. All Meditation techniques trace their roots back to this one. Second, the book credits the amount of TIME spent Meditating as the reason the Monk's brain waves had EVOLVED to the Gamma Level. However, it's NOT the amount of Time you spend Meditating but the Level of the Meditation technique (3 Levels) you use that actually has the highest influence over your body, mind, and soul (seek the advanced Level 3 God Meditation techniques).
yes. materail things, easily accessing health and education helps tremendously in life. no worries about future, about your next meal really help a lot. why would someone be sad in those conditions. maybe lack of goal can be an issue. but you can find things to do with that money im sure.
How the neuroscience of meditation misses the point. A major flaw in the neuroscience of meditation as presented here is that it does not address the affective component of meditative states, of how it feels, which is why people meditate in the first place. However, this clearly implicates relaxation and the states of alert arousal which elicit and enhance it, and this goes against the common narrative that meditation is a unique state rather than simple rest. Meditation research generally relies upon comparative self-reports of meditators and non-meditators, and data from fmri (functional magnetic resonance imaging) or brain scans that measure cerebral blood flow. However, neither can isolate the neuro-muscular and neuro-chemical activity that correlate with subjective affective states. So, in service of the argument that meditation is rest, here is a simple hypothesis and proof that begins with the interactions of the affective systems in the brain that mediate rest and its affective consequences. HYPOTHESIS: Dopaminergic activity will stimulate endogenous opioid systems when the latter are in a non-suppressed state. EXPLANATION AND ‘PROOF’: Activity that involves continuous positive act/outcome discrepancy or novelty (productive or meaningful behavior) while the covert musculature is inactive (a resting state) will result in heightened feeling of pleasure and arousal, or ‘eudaemonia’, ‘flow’, or ‘peak’ experience. This derives from the observation that neuro-muscular tension (or stress) inhibits endogenous opioid (pleasure) release, while relaxation accentuates it, the latter permitting opioid systems to be further stimulated by dopaminergic activity (arousal) elicited by meaningful behavior. The reason this explanation does not appear evident from general observation is that its counterpart as ‘flow’ or ‘peak’ experience is described through literary metaphor and not scientific language and obscures the independent and dependent measures that accurately describe it. The virtue of this explanation is that it is easily testable by anyone. Just get into a relaxed state (mindfulness protocols are the best way to do this) and then exclusively pursue or anticipate pursuing productive activity for periods of a half hour or so, and voila, you will have a flow or eudaemonic experience. It is that simple. I offer a more detailed explanation in pp. 47-52, and pp 82-86 of my open source book on the neuroscience of resting states, ‘The Book of Rest’, linked below. www.scribd.com/doc/284056765/The-Book-of-Rest-The-Odd-Psychology-of-Doing-Nothing This above book is based on the research of the distinguished neuroscientist Kent Berridge of the University of Michigan, a preeminent researcher and authority on dopamine, addiction, and motivation, who was kind to vet the work for accuracy and endorse the finished manuscript. Berridge’s Site sites.lsa.umich.edu/berridge-lab/ also: Meditation and Rest from the International Journal of Stress Management, by this author www.scribd.com/doc/121345732/Relaxation-and-Muscular-Tension-A-bio-behavioristic-explanation
"Get that".. Get what? There's a numberof benefits which they talk about and which are backed by years long studies. Where are your studies showing the same benefits for "ballet dancing, opera singing and praying"?
Davidson explainations are well structured, coming from a professional teacher; Goleman insights are extremely useful though carefully introduced. Great pair, they completes each other perfectly. Thank you all for sharing! 🙏
A wonderful discourse on meditation by two eminent researchers.
The sentence “The after is the before of the next during” can be understood as a philosophical or cyclical perspective on time and events. Here’s a breakdown:
1. “The after is the before”:
• What is considered “after” one event becomes “before” for the subsequent event.
• Example: After finishing breakfast, that moment is now before lunch.
2. “Of the next during”:
• The “during” represents the ongoing phase of the next event.
• Example: The time after breakfast is before the period during lunch.
Simplified Meaning:
Life and time are continuous. What comes after one moment will eventually serve as the setup (the before) for the next phase. Everything is interconnected in a flow of events.
Love the introductory meditation taking the support of the body.
Vipassana Meditation surely helps enhancing anyone's life. Good discussion.
Thank you so much for this talk
Very interesting and also beneficial🙏🏻🌺😀😀
"the after is the before for the next during"...during is what happens when you meditate....
MEDITATION DEFINITION & TIME VS. MEDITATION TECHNIQUE - Thanks for this video!
First, real Meditation is "Focused concentration on God" and the highest purpose of Meditation. This is the original Meditation technique discovered by the advanced Monks of India over 5,000 years ago. All Meditation techniques trace their roots back to this one.
Second, the book credits the amount of TIME spent Meditating as the reason the Monk's brain waves had EVOLVED to the Gamma Level.
However, it's NOT the amount of Time you spend Meditating but the Level of the Meditation technique (3 Levels) you use that actually has the highest influence over your body, mind, and soul (seek the advanced Level 3 God Meditation techniques).
24:00 pain
7:10 after meditation
People say those born in developed countries are blessed with health, wealth and happiness but does wealth and material really bring happiness???
yes. materail things, easily accessing health and education helps tremendously in life. no worries about future, about your next meal really help a lot. why would someone be sad in those conditions. maybe lack of goal can be an issue. but you can find things to do with that money im sure.
Thanks for sharing
Very informative and interesting
Sheela
Thank you 🙏
How the neuroscience of meditation misses the point.
A major flaw in the neuroscience of meditation as presented here is that it does not address the affective component of meditative states, of how it feels, which is why people meditate in the first place. However, this clearly implicates relaxation and the states of alert arousal which elicit and enhance it, and this goes against the common narrative that meditation is a unique state rather than simple rest. Meditation research generally relies upon comparative self-reports of meditators and non-meditators, and data from fmri (functional magnetic resonance imaging) or brain scans that measure cerebral blood flow. However, neither can isolate the neuro-muscular and neuro-chemical activity that correlate with subjective affective states. So, in service of the argument that meditation is rest, here is a simple hypothesis and proof that begins with the interactions of the affective systems in the brain that mediate rest and its affective consequences.
HYPOTHESIS: Dopaminergic activity will stimulate endogenous opioid systems when the latter are in a non-suppressed state.
EXPLANATION AND ‘PROOF’: Activity that involves continuous positive act/outcome discrepancy or novelty (productive or meaningful behavior) while the covert musculature is inactive (a resting state) will result in heightened feeling of pleasure and arousal, or ‘eudaemonia’, ‘flow’, or ‘peak’ experience. This derives from the observation that neuro-muscular tension (or stress) inhibits endogenous opioid (pleasure) release, while relaxation accentuates it, the latter permitting opioid systems to be further stimulated by dopaminergic activity (arousal) elicited by meaningful behavior.
The reason this explanation does not appear evident from general observation is that its counterpart as ‘flow’ or ‘peak’ experience is described through literary metaphor and not scientific language and obscures the independent and dependent measures that accurately describe it. The virtue of this explanation is that it is easily testable by anyone. Just get into a relaxed state (mindfulness protocols are the best way to do this) and then exclusively pursue or anticipate pursuing productive activity for periods of a half hour or so, and voila, you will have a flow or eudaemonic experience. It is that simple.
I offer a more detailed explanation in pp. 47-52, and pp 82-86 of my open source book on the neuroscience of resting states, ‘The Book of Rest’, linked below.
www.scribd.com/doc/284056765/The-Book-of-Rest-The-Odd-Psychology-of-Doing-Nothing
This above book is based on the research of the distinguished neuroscientist Kent Berridge of the University of Michigan, a preeminent researcher and authority on dopamine, addiction, and motivation, who was kind to vet the work for accuracy and endorse the finished manuscript.
Berridge’s Site
sites.lsa.umich.edu/berridge-lab/
also:
Meditation and Rest
from the International Journal of Stress Management, by this author
www.scribd.com/doc/121345732/Relaxation-and-Muscular-Tension-A-bio-behavioristic-explanation
Thank you so much for this
Very helpful 🙏
more Richie!
nice!!
I find the interruptions by Goleman, very distracting when Richie is talking..........
That's why u should meditate
Stop interrupting !!!!
yurr
Utilitarian meditation.
you can get that with ballet dancing ,opera singing or praying. Nothing new
"Get that".. Get what? There's a numberof benefits which they talk about and which are backed by years long studies. Where are your studies showing the same benefits for "ballet dancing, opera singing and praying"?
Yes. Those are forms of meditation as well. They get you into flow just like meditation.
Lol that’s why they’re scientists and you aren’t
you kids want to come play at my place?
Great until g points were mentioned........
Altered Traits: Dr. Daniel Goleman; mediation has nothing to do with it; its Body equals mind equals soul/spirit
Don't like this sarcastic timer ⏳ conversation
Love the introductory meditation taking the support of the body.