For the people asking for a mavuika video i'll tell you that zajef is planning on making a mavuika first impressions, so that's likely why the clip channel didn't post anything from the 2 hours that zajef spent calcing mavuika
I think it's a waste making first impression video on a beta character that hasn't even gotten through all the beta versions. because they almost always make changes to the beta character, he should wait at least until version 3 of the beta before making first impression video for mavuika, if he makes one now and they make changes it would make the video irrelevant, and they most likely will make changes so it's also a waste of effort making such a video now.
@@DoctorBoom. yeah as the other dude said, first impression then clarify in pre release first impression and clarify that she's changed since first beta and then final post release impressions
@@yae8906 if he likes a character, it means said character is meant to be doomed, nerfed and bad. However, if he dislikes a character, this character will receive buffs.
Cryo went from running braindead Freeze and hard hitting Reverse Melt in 1.X, a.k.a mostly offensive-oriented element, to one of the most defensive elements in the game
Just because they dont deal damage doesnt make them defensive... Cryo is just an undersupported element now kinda where dendro is getting slowly as well.
@@luminous3558 No, OP is correct in saying the current state of cryo is very defense focused. There's a lot of defensive aspects in characters kits like Diona, Layla, Citlali, Ganyu, Charlotte, Qiqi, and Mika. And more characters who can abuse Freeze or prefer to be in a freeze team like Freminet, Ganyu, Ayaka, Shenhe, Kaeya, and to some extent Rosaria. It really just leaves a few characters who don't fit in like Chongyun, Eula, and Wriothesley who can use freeze but really prefers melt. The element's best reaction by far is Freeze with it's only limitation being bosses(apart from the Liyue horse) which cannot be frozen and a few enemies(like consecrated beasts) who have resistance to freeze but still let you heavily benefit from freezing them.
@luminous3558 If by undersupported you mean cast, I can see that. But in terms of reactions, Dendro is still dominating. Hyperbloom is just way too overturned, and Nilou Bloom as well is insanely strong. Quickbloom is also fantastic in its own right. And now we have Kinich and Emilie who benefit from Burning, so the only place where Dendro is lacking is Burgeon and pure Quicken. Burgeon was kinda doomed from the start just because Nilou Bloom exists. And pure Quicken only lacks a support that makes the reaction on its own better than Quick bloom. If it gets that, then it's set.
@@you_have_been_blocked No, nothing like that. It’s just superstition. In the past, the more he likes a character, the more bad they turn out. He said he really loved Dehya, and Dehya is pretty weak even compared to other standard banner characters.
@@None38389 I started playing recently, and currently main Gaming with Xingqiu, Bennett and Sucrose. I don't have the strongest Gaming, Furina, Bennett, Xianyun combination, and I'm not striving for it at the moment. I like Citlali. Her shield will give me an easier time with Serpent Spine on Gaming and let the attacks in between the jumps shatter with this patch's upgraded multiplier of 3x (Bennett is not C6). The cooldown of her skill also suits Gaming.
@@phongphamthanh5911If everyone is C2, it's getting closer. Realistically Hutao best teams don't run Bennett anymore, bcs ppl who care about best performance are nearing speedrun or do speedrun. But if everything is at C0 the statement is true. 1st comment included Yoimiya, the main Reason for Yoi is because the setup Is faster and stays longer than a VV set up (same reasoning of why Chevreuse team is effectively Yoi best team)
The only lack here is there can only be 1 wielder of Cinder City, which makes someone wields Petra, which is scuffed. But it's up to you. Without constellation investment I would highly Not recommend dropping Bennett out
@@eggi4443 But ask yourself this: does your Arl need the boost? Also, there are some other trade offs. Like she has a longer duration on her shield, which is a big plus, but her shield is quite a bit weaker, which is a big minus.
boring kit and boring gameplay are different, boring gameplay is subjective while boring kit isn't and she's just 5 star Layla, nothing spectacular or creative in her kit
@mickysaif Lol what ? Since when is layla a hydro and pyro buffer ? Both kit and gameplay are subjective , her kit is fun and helpful for the 2 best DPS arlechino and neuvellite
@@mickysaif Zhongli can't use cinder city and he have no cryo application or sub DPS , she's deals like 60% of chiori sub DPS while being a shielder and buffer
How have commenters gotten this bad. I swear these people could read neuvillettes kit and would say stuff like "HP scaler? Looks bad". 5.3 is looking like an absurd patch already but most of the comment sections are doomposting the characters that will likely define the meta going forward...
You have to understand that currently, Citlali doesn’t seem to be an incredible unit pretty much anywhere. You can’t expect people to just believe that she will be meta defining in the future and go with it. Besides, I haven’t seen a comment doomposting Citlali, just people not thinking she is worth pulling, which is completely fair.
I mean it makes sense everyone was hoping for something for the cryo element yet nothing on a cryo shielder? thats most likely the hate u see but personally dont think shes bad at all just not what i was expecting i guess
She was the character I was looking forward to, but this kit doesn't really interest me. I don't care much for freeze, and melt? Yeah, I could use her with my Yoimiya, but I'll be honest, what that means is I won't use her, because I don't use Yoimiya. Overall, she has a weak shield and an encouraged team building restriction, and seems a lot like yet another Naltan off-fielder for whom a big chunk of the value comes from "can fully utilize Scroll set", with the added bonus "get her signature weapon, please". 5.3 looks like a pretty bad patch, overall. Motorcycle lameness, meh pyro Traveler, and this uninteresting kit. Most interesting thing about it now is the new four star.
Cinder City Citlali + Petra Xilonen is something that should be brought up a bit more. That's 75% elemental dmg bonus for Pyro, 40% for Cryo and 35% for Geo in Mavuika+Citlali+Xilonen. Geo is mostly ignorable, Cryo is nice as she deals some off-field, but massively buffing Mavuika is fantastic. Not to mention Cinder City Citlali is better for versatility, as you can run Chasca+Mavuika+Citlali+Hydro/Pyro/Cryo filler, thus buffing Chasca as well.
My guess is she’s more of an upgrade over Zhongli in vape. Since she buffs hydro and pyro, the best teams I can come up with for her are vape teams. So Arlecchino or Mualani. And she’ll enable occasional melts on vape teams. Along with 20% res shred and cinder city 40% damage buff. So slightly weaker than Kkazuha/Xilonen, but somewhat stronger than Zhongli for your damage. I REALLY hope they buff her shield though, bc it’s VERY weak rn. I do like that her cryo application when combined with Kaeya would let you do consistent arlecchino forward melt though. I don’t expect it to be as good as Arlecchino’s best vape teams, but it is still an actually decent option now. (Assuming Citlali does have semi-decent cryo application, like leaks say.)
I put on these videos to listen to Zajef's thoughts while I do something else and everytime, halfway in is just him doing excels 10/10. I don't know why I always forget, lol. That's why we trust his judgement he does the math
Her E attacks every second, and applies once every 2 seconds. Being a very nice Cryo off-fielder for application. 100% uptime. I think she will be a good Pyro Melt enabler, also a Freeze enabler for a Hydro DPS as Kokomi is for Cryo DPS. She is also a nice Nightsoul consumer for Mavuika's Burst charging.
I'm so happy that she is not a bad unit bcs Citlali is one of the few characters from Natlan that i rly want to get (others are Capitano and Ororon). Her design is amazing and she doesn't have that modern bs in her kit (pillows atleast exist in genshin world and ppl use them).
Well, if she was made for Chasca, she'd debuff cryo resists as well. Seems meant more for Yoimiya and Arl. Though I do think she'll be useful with Chasca.
@@Axterix13 In Chasca teams she's a 13k DPS increase over C6 Ororon accoring to Prastal's calcs, which is a pretty insane increase considering you're swapping an off-field DPS for a shielder.
I would not be surprised if Citlali becomes a standard character unit if Hoyo decides to add in a Natlan unit that shields for newcomers. She plays like a better Layla, but is generally a weaker Zhongli with a less durable shield and a more limited elemental shred that requires more work to activate overall. Being a catalyst user is the only really unique thing besides the nightsoul stuff to make use of cinder city artifact set, which saves her as a useful unit. Would definitely fit the standard banner being a 5 star shielder that the current standard banner is lacking and wont upset the standard banner's current power levels.
Can she be used with lyney furina bennet? Granted you wont get the full passive from lyney but Im very bad at dodging so I want a shielder that can buff, and my layla shield breaks way too easily
@@Icysted what other benefit would she provide with another cyro unit on the team? Just res shred and a shield? Zhongli does the same thing. What she does for freeze and melt teams is provide cyro app, res shred, and a shield in one unit.
@ “zhongli does the same thing” is such an ass argument. it would give her more flexibility if she can act the same way as zhongli for Cryo as well cuz melt and freeze are literally cryo related reactions too lmao. Cuz in actual “melt teams” it’s often only reverse melt, Cryo triggering melt like ganyu or wriothlesly, no pyro dps uses melt cuz there’s no good Cryo applicator, although idk what her icd is if it’s as good as like xq then I could understand cuz then she’s meant for Cryo application
@@dariusd2934in like ganyu xiangling bennet zhongli team citlali would be better option if she could also res shred Cryo cuz she can hold scroll set and buff everyone’s dmg by 40%
I'd wanted a second zhongli for like maybe a year or since i got neuvi on his rerun, during these scenario; when i run Alhaitham, nahida fischl, I want shielder cuz haitham getting interrupted is very terrible, and i hated playing yelan kuki with him, while needing zhongli for neuvi on the second side, so i ended up not playing ALHAITHAM(accidental all caps but I like it) ; when zazajef talked abt neuvi Furina xilonen zhongli team losing one neuvi stack, i thought of needing shielder of another element; also i remembered i forgot the most important premise, ZHONGLI'S SHIELD STRENGTH AND UPTIME AND COOLDOWN ! ! ! all those 4 star got small s shield and short s uptime, and not geo, missing out on general 150% shield strength, and on mobile potato, those uptime is short AF ! Counterintuitively stressful to play rather of being comfy ! WTF
@@you_have_been_blocked Was more of a joke, but if I try it it would likely be my c6 kaeya or, if I can get her, rosaria. I'd likely just run hu tao, rosaria, citlali, xilonen for a super comfy overworld team. Maybe swap rosaria for some claymore user for mining.
Interesting. I was expecting a lot because one of jstern's titles was basically just "citlali is broken"; a bit disappointed. She definitely seems strong, but not really broken.
She remind me of Kokomi and Baizhu. Characters that only get better with new characters or added mechanics. Shes good but not outstanding but can improve with time.
@@mattgriffin0231 c0 Citlali isnt that good. Xilonen gives 36 shred and cinder city+healing to all PHEC elements. Meanwhile Citlali can only shred 20 and its locked to hydro and pyro. She has shield instead of healing. She is still decent but she is worse and more limited in teams than Xilonen. But her c1 and c2 makes her a lot stronger. (still locked to pyro and hydro teams but she is a little better than c2 Xilonen for those teams if you are melting/vaping)
Ok, so I thought she was cryo buffer or something. Good yo know, this makes her easier to skip than before. I don’t have arlecchino or any natlan units besides free kachina, I want chasca but I still wouldn’t pull citlali for 2 percent extra damage lol. It’s settled, depending on my chasca pulls I’ll go all in on shenhe. I plan on skipping mauvika too as I’m not impressed with her at all, so that’s more pulls to save. Ty for the info!
She shreds hydro res on freeze, hmm... Neuvi freeze comp?? Her EM would be useless in freeze though, other than her shield. Would've been nice if EM has an effect on freeze, like increasing freeze duration.
its realluy about time they buffed reactions cus the HP of enemies has been ramping up since 1.6 while we havent gotten any buffs to reaction damage since then
Her kit is so fken confusing man. There's more cryo characters and they're the ones doing the damage in Freeze teams. She barely pushes out an anemo character and she'd have to, to fit. EM does nothing for them. Then in Melt teams she's the one with the high damage multi but she reduces pyro res. She's like, doing the opposite side of these reactions, but it's not going to be good. If she doesn't apply frequently how can they forward melt? I'm SO confused.
I feel like her ascension stat should have been "Elemental Grandma-stery" just this once
Calm down there Cyno
Who let cyno in?
r/OkCyno
All I can hear is “it’s papa”
@@CukiCookie it's what Ororon says every time I come home from work.
Sit lolo it's papa? 😢
No. It’s granny.
Im dying 😂😂😂😂
she summons the demon father, also known as..
For the people asking for a mavuika video i'll tell you that zajef is planning on making a mavuika first impressions, so that's likely why the clip channel didn't post anything from the 2 hours that zajef spent calcing mavuika
I think it's a waste making first impression video on a beta character that hasn't even gotten through all the beta versions. because they almost always make changes to the beta character, he should wait at least until version 3 of the beta before making first impression video for mavuika, if he makes one now and they make changes it would make the video irrelevant, and they most likely will make changes so it's also a waste of effort making such a video now.
@@DoctorBoom. more content om
@@darkdragonx650 but hes not going to make 3 videos about mavuika before her release so the first impression one should be for her final beta version
@@DoctorBoom. he'll do first impressions beta, pre release guide, and then post release first impressions, it's easy content
@@DoctorBoom. yeah as the other dude said, first impression then clarify in pre release first impression and clarify that she's changed since first beta and then final post release impressions
Zajef doesn't like it we winning with this one Citlalibros!
I find it funny how he's aware of the curse of Zajef
@@kri1ndawn440what's the zajef curse?
@@yae8906 if he likes a character, it means said character is meant to be doomed, nerfed and bad.
However, if he dislikes a character, this character will receive buffs.
@@alexownn382 Then I hope that curse comes true ☠
@@alexownn382 except kinich, xilonen, chasca and yeah a lot of other characters
Interesting that she has an aim shot as a catalyst
she has to, because of her tribe is the same as ororon
Nahida and Charlotte: are we a joke to you?
@@zhonglimorax2024 Those two are skills, Citlali is CA
Not gonna lie it always blows my mind on how he can do these calculations so well. Like im jealous and impressed by him
its pretty impressive, but you can learn how to as well, its just a basic extension of learning the genshin dmg formula
if u do it so much you remember that, also u can see he usually doesn’t get it right first try/chat helps him
he's a math major, it would be weird if he didn't know how to do these simple calcs
smart fine men like him are hot af
@@owowonn paidchatter
I’m pulling her before she disappears for over a year 😅
True
1:01 IT'S PAPA 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
Cryo went from running braindead Freeze and hard hitting Reverse Melt in 1.X, a.k.a mostly offensive-oriented element, to one of the most defensive elements in the game
Freeze is inherently a defensive reaction. Cryo has always had a pseudo defensive identity.
Just because they dont deal damage doesnt make them defensive... Cryo is just an undersupported element now kinda where dendro is getting slowly as well.
@@luminous3558 No, OP is correct in saying the current state of cryo is very defense focused.
There's a lot of defensive aspects in characters kits like Diona, Layla, Citlali, Ganyu, Charlotte, Qiqi, and Mika.
And more characters who can abuse Freeze or prefer to be in a freeze team like Freminet, Ganyu, Ayaka, Shenhe, Kaeya, and to some extent Rosaria. It really just leaves a few characters who don't fit in like Chongyun, Eula, and Wriothesley who can use freeze but really prefers melt.
The element's best reaction by far is Freeze with it's only limitation being bosses(apart from the Liyue horse) which cannot be frozen and a few enemies(like consecrated beasts) who have resistance to freeze but still let you heavily benefit from freezing them.
@luminous3558 If by undersupported you mean cast, I can see that. But in terms of reactions, Dendro is still dominating. Hyperbloom is just way too overturned, and Nilou Bloom as well is insanely strong. Quickbloom is also fantastic in its own right. And now we have Kinich and Emilie who benefit from Burning, so the only place where Dendro is lacking is Burgeon and pure Quicken. Burgeon was kinda doomed from the start just because Nilou Bloom exists. And pure Quicken only lacks a support that makes the reaction on its own better than Quick bloom. If it gets that, then it's set.
Really should have had cryo res shred, as if hydro and pyro needed it to begin with
OPPA
Yeah pretty much a lesser good zhongli thats sad
beta isn’t over so who knows
The third fkin cryo shielder when we lack other options for so many other things omg da wei
Fr they're being cheap with Cryo until we get to Tsaritza
She is one of the paper shielder. xd
@@jyusatsu we thought they were doing that for mavuika and they just decided to drop another pyro carry...
YES! He said he doesn’t like her!
She's saved!
Already pulled her on my screen
im new what does this mean? is his opinion really important for the devs?
@@you_have_been_blocked No, nothing like that. It’s just superstition. In the past, the more he likes a character, the more bad they turn out. He said he really loved Dehya, and Dehya is pretty weak even compared to other standard banner characters.
@@Shane_A_M OHHH LMAOOOOO then its a great day for citlali wanters. tyy for explaining
Granny about to save cryo...at C6.
Inb4 it becomes her c2
@@shatteredspace4495I wouldn't be surprised.
When Xenon the Xenophobic guide
Gaming melt will go so hard with this one
Sadly I don't think her app will be enough, especially with c6 benny
I don't know what the fck you are cooking. If you play Kazuha in forward Melt, you are not a sane human being@@nadkudo1798
@@nadkudo1798 she replaces bennett, not furina. we getting melt shatter plunges with this one.
@@haydenz0 I don't think she's good enough to justify giving up 1000+ ATK from Bennett.
@@None38389 I started playing recently, and currently main Gaming with Xingqiu, Bennett and Sucrose.
I don't have the strongest Gaming, Furina, Bennett, Xianyun combination, and I'm not striving for it at the moment. I like Citlali. Her shield will give me an easier time with Serpent Spine on Gaming and let the attacks in between the jumps shatter with this patch's upgraded multiplier of 3x (Bennett is not C6). The cooldown of her skill also suits Gaming.
Plunge Citlali IS SO REAL!!?!?! 😮
Not a bad idea since Xianyun’s res shred doesn’t reapply off field. Diluc can definitely use her.
Blatant Layla powercreep is unappreciated
CAUGHT THUMBNAIL
itzpapin time
and then she itzpapa'd all over the place
its Youhou art and muji-muji daruma all over again, but now Its papa
Thank you mr zajef for not liking her!
8:26 When you thought Citlali will be a superconduct buff but actually she's a Tankfei buff no way
Definitely a unit for yoimiya. Yoimiya Furina Xilonen Citlali.
Being a shielder helps her a lot xilonen can be overkill you can use bennet instead
@@sundaysunlights9245 yeah bennet will always better because his atk buff is unmatched
Why not just use Bennett instead of Citlali. Her shield is pretty weak anw so you aren’t tanking much. Healers synergize better with Furina as well.
@@phongphamthanh5911If everyone is C2, it's getting closer. Realistically Hutao best teams don't run Bennett anymore, bcs ppl who care about best performance are nearing speedrun or do speedrun.
But if everything is at C0 the statement is true.
1st comment included Yoimiya, the main Reason for Yoi is because the setup Is faster and stays longer than a VV set up (same reasoning of why Chevreuse team is effectively Yoi best team)
The only lack here is there can only be 1 wielder of Cinder City, which makes someone wields Petra, which is scuffed. But it's up to you.
Without constellation investment I would highly Not recommend dropping Bennett out
Hoping they give her cryo res shred too, but I'm already pulling her as she is
Love her character design!
“And I feel like we do not need another Cryo shielder” from Zajef’s mouth to Celestia’s ears.
Kind of want to try her out in meme teams like shatter albedo. The em scaling shield is unique.
She does pyro res decrease. If you use layla on arlecchino for sustain, citlali will be better
wait, that's a great point. I run them together, citlali may actually be nice for me
@@eggi4443 But ask yourself this: does your Arl need the boost?
Also, there are some other trade offs. Like she has a longer duration on her shield, which is a big plus, but her shield is quite a bit weaker, which is a big minus.
@@Axterix13 true but also it's not like any citlali teams are great at the moment
Guys are calling this character boring yet will play Nevillette and Arlecchino every day
boring kit and boring gameplay are different, boring gameplay is subjective while boring kit isn't and she's just 5 star Layla, nothing spectacular or creative in her kit
@mickysaif
Lol what ? Since when is layla a hydro and pyro buffer ? Both kit and gameplay are subjective , her kit is fun and helpful for the 2 best DPS arlechino and neuvellite
@@mickysaif they are quite literally both subjective considering gameplay comes from the kit if we are taking this angle with this
@@kingdoom5022 20% shred isn't fun it's just a sidegrade to zhongli shield
@@mickysaif
Zhongli can't use cinder city and he have no cryo application or sub DPS , she's deals like 60% of chiori sub DPS while being a shielder and buffer
finally good sacfrag holder
SacHag😏
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Sucrose be like 😢
I wanna hold you
@@abyssenjoyer everyone hold hand
How have commenters gotten this bad. I swear these people could read neuvillettes kit and would say stuff like "HP scaler? Looks bad".
5.3 is looking like an absurd patch already but most of the comment sections are doomposting the characters that will likely define the meta going forward...
You have to understand that currently, Citlali doesn’t seem to be an incredible unit pretty much anywhere. You can’t expect people to just believe that she will be meta defining in the future and go with it. Besides, I haven’t seen a comment doomposting Citlali, just people not thinking she is worth pulling, which is completely fair.
I mean it makes sense everyone was hoping for something for the cryo element yet nothing on a cryo shielder? thats most likely the hate u see but personally dont think shes bad at all just not what i was expecting i guess
She was the character I was looking forward to, but this kit doesn't really interest me. I don't care much for freeze, and melt? Yeah, I could use her with my Yoimiya, but I'll be honest, what that means is I won't use her, because I don't use Yoimiya. Overall, she has a weak shield and an encouraged team building restriction, and seems a lot like yet another Naltan off-fielder for whom a big chunk of the value comes from "can fully utilize Scroll set", with the added bonus "get her signature weapon, please".
5.3 looks like a pretty bad patch, overall. Motorcycle lameness, meh pyro Traveler, and this uninteresting kit. Most interesting thing about it now is the new four star.
@@Axterix13 Then why bother wanting a "cryo character" when you don't care about the cryo reactions ???
Unless you're a superconduct fan.
Cinder City Citlali + Petra Xilonen is something that should be brought up a bit more. That's 75% elemental dmg bonus for Pyro, 40% for Cryo and 35% for Geo in Mavuika+Citlali+Xilonen. Geo is mostly ignorable, Cryo is nice as she deals some off-field, but massively buffing Mavuika is fantastic.
Not to mention Cinder City Citlali is better for versatility, as you can run Chasca+Mavuika+Citlali+Hydro/Pyro/Cryo filler, thus buffing Chasca as well.
Chasca + Mavuika? Bennett with Chasca >>>>>>> infinite >>> Mavuika with Chasca. Bennett is god.
My guess is she’s more of an upgrade over Zhongli in vape. Since she buffs hydro and pyro, the best teams I can come up with for her are vape teams. So Arlecchino or Mualani. And she’ll enable occasional melts on vape teams. Along with 20% res shred and cinder city 40% damage buff. So slightly weaker than Kkazuha/Xilonen, but somewhat stronger than Zhongli for your damage. I REALLY hope they buff her shield though, bc it’s VERY weak rn.
I do like that her cryo application when combined with Kaeya would let you do consistent arlecchino forward melt though. I don’t expect it to be as good as Arlecchino’s best vape teams, but it is still an actually decent option now. (Assuming Citlali does have semi-decent cryo application, like leaks say.)
TL;DR, specialized zhongli for hydro and pyro DPS
I put on these videos to listen to Zajef's thoughts while I do something else and everytime, halfway in is just him doing excels 10/10. I don't know why I always forget, lol. That's why we trust his judgement he does the math
Justice for Normal Attacks! Stop skipping Normal Attack description!
It's papa
Her E attacks every second, and applies once every 2 seconds. Being a very nice Cryo off-fielder for application.
100% uptime. I think she will be a good Pyro Melt enabler, also a Freeze enabler for a Hydro DPS as Kokomi is for Cryo DPS.
She is also a nice Nightsoul consumer for Mavuika's Burst charging.
Definitely one of the character of all time
I'm so happy that she is not a bad unit bcs Citlali is one of the few characters from Natlan that i rly want to get (others are Capitano and Ororon). Her design is amazing and she doesn't have that modern bs in her kit (pillows atleast exist in genshin world and ppl use them).
She's literally made for a Chasca Melt-Vape team and i love it, She's a must pull for us Chasca mains and i'm all here for it 🔥
I use layla c4 anw
She’s literally made for Mavuika Melt-Vape team*
Well, if she was made for Chasca, she'd debuff cryo resists as well. Seems meant more for Yoimiya and Arl. Though I do think she'll be useful with Chasca.
@@Axterix13 In Chasca teams she's a 13k DPS increase over C6 Ororon accoring to Prastal's calcs, which is a pretty insane increase considering you're swapping an off-field DPS for a shielder.
now that's some main channel level editing right here
I would not be surprised if Citlali becomes a standard character unit if Hoyo decides to add in a Natlan unit that shields for newcomers.
She plays like a better Layla, but is generally a weaker Zhongli with a less durable shield and a more limited elemental shred that requires more work to activate overall. Being a catalyst user is the only really unique thing besides the nightsoul stuff to make use of cinder city artifact set, which saves her as a useful unit. Would definitely fit the standard banner being a 5 star shielder that the current standard banner is lacking and wont upset the standard banner's current power levels.
Can she be used with lyney furina bennet? Granted you wont get the full passive from lyney but Im very bad at dodging so I want a shielder that can buff, and my layla shield breaks way too easily
That's what I'm wondering too... hope she works with him
yeah she is boring for her kinda specific role to the team
please zajef curse do your job
Granny sucks, not gonna save Cryo #ZajeffReverseCurse
yoimiya and lyney main here is happy x
the way they completely ignored cryo res shred when melt or frozen happens is absolutely crazy they seriously got something against cryo atp 😭
It's because she's meant to be the cyro unit in those comps. Just use zhongli instead
@ what kind of argument is that? The only thing that comes from them excluding cryo res shred is so that cryo characters can’t benefit from using her
@@Icysted what other benefit would she provide with another cyro unit on the team? Just res shred and a shield? Zhongli does the same thing. What she does for freeze and melt teams is provide cyro app, res shred, and a shield in one unit.
@ “zhongli does the same thing” is such an ass argument. it would give her more flexibility if she can act the same way as zhongli for Cryo as well cuz melt and freeze are literally cryo related reactions too lmao. Cuz in actual “melt teams” it’s often only reverse melt, Cryo triggering melt like ganyu or wriothlesly, no pyro dps uses melt cuz there’s no good Cryo applicator, although idk what her icd is if it’s as good as like xq then I could understand cuz then she’s meant for Cryo application
@@dariusd2934in like ganyu xiangling bennet zhongli team citlali would be better option if she could also res shred Cryo cuz she can hold scroll set and buff everyone’s dmg by 40%
Would you cover up the herta kit in depth when she comes out?
Itzpapa: What my son says when I get home from work.
"Dawnfrost Darkstar" is WARRIOR CAT NAMES
So basically just 5 star version of Layla
I had been pulling C2R1 archons since Raiden, but this time I am really conflicted about whether I should pull both Mavuika and Citlali C0R1 instead.
Cons really should have gave cryo res shred instead of additional pyro/hydro. Ganyu melt woulda been insane (still probably really good)
I'd wanted a second zhongli for like maybe a year or since i got neuvi on his rerun, during these scenario;
when i run Alhaitham, nahida fischl, I want shielder cuz haitham getting interrupted is very terrible, and i hated playing yelan kuki with him, while needing zhongli for neuvi on the second side, so i ended up not playing ALHAITHAM(accidental all caps but I like it) ; when zazajef talked abt neuvi Furina xilonen zhongli team losing one neuvi stack, i thought of needing shielder of another element; also i remembered i forgot the most important premise, ZHONGLI'S SHIELD STRENGTH AND UPTIME AND COOLDOWN ! ! !
all those 4 star got small s shield and short s uptime, and not geo, missing out on general 150% shield strength, and on mobile potato, those uptime is short AF ! Counterintuitively stressful to play rather of being comfy ! WTF
The animation powercreep with this one
absolute cinema
That c6 formatting error is giving me WuWa 1.0 flashbacks lmaoo
Time for my hu tao, xilonen, double cryo dream? :P
who would be the other cryo? does anyone apply cryo fast enough
@@you_have_been_blocked Was more of a joke, but if I try it it would likely be my c6 kaeya or, if I can get her, rosaria. I'd likely just run hu tao, rosaria, citlali, xilonen for a super comfy overworld team. Maybe swap rosaria for some claymore user for mining.
@@kirdenlynx YOU HAVE C6 KAEYA AND NOT ROSARIA?????????? tragic
@@you_have_been_blocked Yea, not sure how that one snuck up on me. Sadly didn't start till the kinich banner but somehow kaeya found a way.
Best hyperfridge unit?
We do need a shielder that actually applies cryo.
Did the elemental changes to superconduct, overload etc already go into effect?
So i didnt get it, what her team is? Is she melting or she lets melt, Arlechino for example?
arlechino rosaria bennett citlali, arlecchino melts, circle impact
would rather just use diona for the 200em 💀
She's BiS for Chasca Melt-Vape teams, a must pull for Chasca mains
Arlecchino needs c6 kaeya and citlali for the melt to work
I wanted her to support my Ayaya
Seems like she won't
I'll get c2 mavuika instead then :(
ItzPapa
Is Citlali good for Chasca with Furina and Benny
Interesting. I was expecting a lot because one of jstern's titles was basically just "citlali is broken"; a bit disappointed. She definitely seems strong, but not really broken.
She remind me of Kokomi and Baizhu. Characters that only get better with new characters or added mechanics. Shes good but not outstanding but can improve with time.
jstern's titles have a 50/50 chance of being sarcastic, and I rarely have time for a three hour stream to find out what his actual conclusions are.
@@kg39012 that is very true, I assumed it wasn't sarcastic because she is pretty good but honestly I have no idea
@@mattgriffin0231 c0 Citlali isnt that good. Xilonen gives 36 shred and cinder city+healing to all PHEC elements. Meanwhile Citlali can only shred 20 and its locked to hydro and pyro. She has shield instead of healing. She is still decent but she is worse and more limited in teams than Xilonen.
But her c1 and c2 makes her a lot stronger. (still locked to pyro and hydro teams but she is a little better than c2 Xilonen for those teams if you are melting/vaping)
she will only be good if her application is good or else she's just 5 star Layla which is a low bar
Cryo characters be like... Cry louder!
Melt Ganyu is back on the menu, boys!
She doesn't res shred cryo? Mavuika however would allow melt ganyu with bit less energy issues
Wait at c2 with thrilling tales and cinder city, isn’t she an upgrade over kazuha for pyro dps
how strong is dps Citlali and who the support to play with dps Citlali
her na/ca scalings are ass but you can build full dmg and play her as sub dps while also melting her burst for a nuke
Xianyun Bennett Xiangling.. you can plunge with her for high melts
6:45 Shouldn't dmg% come off as 1.4? Not 0.4?
now this is good news since I already got a bunch of EM cinder city artifacts because I tried to use it on Kuki
Ok, so I thought she was cryo buffer or something. Good yo know, this makes her easier to skip than before. I don’t have arlecchino or any natlan units besides free kachina, I want chasca but I still wouldn’t pull citlali for 2 percent extra damage lol. It’s settled, depending on my chasca pulls I’ll go all in on shenhe. I plan on skipping mauvika too as I’m not impressed with her at all, so that’s more pulls to save. Ty for the info!
Can she be great in a Chasca team ? Since like she will be but you would need like off field pyro and a way to heal of you play with furina
What is the cooldown and duration of her shield ?
soooo wait she is literally that local legened fallen dawnstar on the south west mountain(not the fogged island)
It's Papa! 😂
She wants to be on a melt team. She has good consistent app as well
Would nahidas weapon be good for her?
I wanted citlali to also be a superconduct suport / dmg dealer for my razor team as well
Where's Mavuika's kit reviews
New weapon for Baizhu?
Imagine doing a proper setup (with 110% res shred somehow) just so your sustain could melt for 200k
She shreds hydro res on freeze, hmm... Neuvi freeze comp?? Her EM would be useless in freeze though, other than her shield. Would've been nice if EM has an effect on freeze, like increasing freeze duration.
If they include Cryo res shred she will be great, as of now she is ok in general and very good in the, almost inexistent, forward melt teams
I dunno but if Hoyoverse starts nerfing her, she might be on the standard banner.
Is it just me, or are her HP and Def extremely high and her Atk low?
Sad that she has no synergy with her grandson. It always blows when linked characters don't synergies.
Mm a replacement for charlotte and diona for pyro dps melt showcases.. ik the arlechino mains are happy with this one
its realluy about time they buffed reactions cus the HP of enemies has been ramping up since 1.6 while we havent gotten any buffs to reaction damage since then
Best character in the game behind Capigoato
aight, where is the mavuika one?
he'll make a dedicated long video for it, daily probably doesnt wanna cannibalize his views
Wait, she gives EM to hydro characters in freeze teams, could we finally be getting a hydro claymore that benefits from shatter?
Edit: buffs at C2 😅
She has no em buffs to team, but you may be onto something cuz in superconduct+shatter team citlali will be procing superconduct+taser
@deztract4154 I thought about the buff in C2 and forgot to mention in the comment 😅
Her kit is so fken confusing man. There's more cryo characters and they're the ones doing the damage in Freeze teams. She barely pushes out an anemo character and she'd have to, to fit. EM does nothing for them. Then in Melt teams she's the one with the high damage multi but she reduces pyro res. She's like, doing the opposite side of these reactions, but it's not going to be good. If she doesn't apply frequently how can they forward melt? I'm SO confused.
Rn it seems like she's a Chasca supp only. They might make a few more multi-element DPSes in the future but I do not believe it tbh
CLITLOLI ❤
I hate how Hoyo keeps gatekeeping co-op shields in cons.
i wonder if shes good with arlecchino xilonen
yeah I'm only pulling her if she is good with arle melt or else I'm sticking to double geo because her kit sounds boring
what website does he use in this video.?
project amber
excel Im pretty sure
@@kuki2800 no not that site, but the other site 🤣
Good. Sounds like an easy skip. I was gonna need a break after Mavuika to rebuild.
I would them to add électro and physical res shred by superconduct