Perfect timing! Heading into the Colorado winter and my Kickr, with 10's of thousands of miles on it, is ready for a refresh. How is the sound, my old boy is pretty loud and hoping to knock that down a few Db. You aren't kidding when you say these things just go and go. I bought mine used when it was several years old and I've put a bunch of miles on it since and it honestly works like what I expect it did as new.
We didn't really make note of the noise at all, so I'd say you'll be fine with it. It's essentially a 2022 model year Kickr sitting on a suspension system, so it'll have the same power feedback, noise levels, etc as those units.
Great little info video always on point and getting the low down on any new kit, or triathlon Bling that's on the horizon. I used to own a rock and roll trainer much the same principal as this giving you a road feel indoors, way better for being indoors on the trainer. Indoors and imagine your outdoor, lol. Nice bit of kit, not withstanding that unfortunately mine might cost me ever so slightly more than yours cost you, Oh to be an elite athlete, I wish, then someone might send me one? In my dreams maybe, have fun riding indoors with your outdoor vibe. stay safe both see you next time, Much love from the UK X
my feelings about the rollers exactly. I love them for 99% of what I do, right until I need to really ramp up and down quickly. I'll probably use both to vary stimulus over the winter
Probably won't be upgrading since I love the kicr we have, but gotta get my zwift account back up for some TTL rides! Excited to see how this changes/improves your indoor training!
The motion is really optimized for in-the-saddle riding, in my opinion. If it had enough flex to allow true out-of-saddle sprinting and bike throwing, I think it would probably be too wobbly the rest of the time. You do have more freedom out of the saddle, but if you closed your eyes and sprinted, you wouldn't forget you're inside. But that does depend on how aggressively you throw the bike when you sprint.
@@ThatTriathlonLife thanks for the feed back! That makes sense, after reading this I can only think of those MotoGP racing arcade game with the crazy leaning motorcycle and how wild that would be on your bike indoors lol thanks!
Can you guys do a quick video on the easiest way to change rear wheel from road set up onto the kickr? I always feel so uncoordinated doing it and think to myself “it can’t be this hard - the pros do it all the time”. Thanks.
From what I can tell with our limited time so far, it'll definitely allow more people to hold aero for longer, and that'll pay off come outdoor/race season
Hey this is Eric. I'd call the side-to-side play "natural" feeling and after a few minutes you don't even process it. You don't need to focus to stay upright or in the middle or anything. If you're thinking about it with regards to sprinting out of the saddle, it's not enough to allow true sprint form, but I think it's really well optimized for seated riding and TT riding.
Hi Paula, hi Eric! I just watched your clip for a second time. Please excuse me, I don`t want to bother you with my question. But I saw in the clip that you also have a Tacx Neo in your garage. I`ve read several times, that the sideways tilt is more comfortable and not so "cluncy" on the Tacx as on the Wahoo. You both are professionals. What smarttrainer would you prefer riding on? A short answer would be super nice. Thanks! Best regards from Germany, Oliver
Do you use the Move or just the Kickr V6 on a regular basis? Recent video I think I just saw the non move being utilized but wanted your thoughts as looking to upgrade but not sure if Move is good fit or to go with regular V6 Thank you
No we haven't! Have you? Paula did all of her indoor rides on this since we got it, but we did go to California for 2.5 months this year becuase the weather was so brutal here. That's just to say that we haven't put an entire winter worth of training on it yet. But, it feels incredibly smooth and well-built to me, so I'd be pretty shocked to have any issues. -Eric
@@ThatTriathlonLife i just ordered one. I haven't seen anyone post any "long term" reviews on it yet so i was hoping that wasn't because they were having issues. I appreciate you getting back to me! Hope you two have a great time at the wedding and congratulations!
Hey guys, I’ve recently got a 12 speed bike and put my bike on the trainer after changing the cassette on the wahoo. I experienced some popping and skipping of the chain, could this be a me problem? Did I do a mistake?
It's possible that the spacing on your wheel is slightly different from the spacing on the Kickr, and you might need to make a "barrel adjustment" to have the shifting happy. Before that, I would confirm that you've got the right brand cassette, and any spacers it might need between the trainer and the cassette.
There's no adjustment in the amount of motion, to my knowledge, but you can swap the squishy feet out for hard plastic feet, which would have that effect on the side-to-side flex.
Nice review :) ... originally wrote you guys asking if this was harder on a carbon frame... but i worry to much about that. saw a good you tube by GPLama Shane Miller that says don't sprint throwing a carbon bike attached to a trainer side to side but other than that you frame's pretty safe... unless you decide to pick up the kicker by picking up your bike attached to it ;) So I grabbed one of these to try out and hopefully have less > 1 hr ride pain :)
I got this reply from Wahoo: Hi Matthias, Thanks for getting in touch! The noises are completely normal so nothing to worry about. The KICKR has been greased in that part so the wheels move, the grease will evenly distribute over a couple of rides. Regards, Molly Customer Support Specialist Distributor Support Specialist Wahoo Fitness
Hi TTL team, Just wondering if this is genuinely a worthwhile upgrade from the Kickr V6? I am a triathlete and struggle to get comfortable staying in the bars for efforts on it. I know I move around when time trialing so was seriously considering this unit as my hope is that it will replicate the road feel a little more. PS my 14 year old daughter has hijacked my TH-cam account hence the photo and name. Cheers Jason
front to back seems pointless... I just need the side to side, riding my trainer right now HURTS after about an hour because the soab doesn't move at all and my gooch and hands get destroyed. I need to get one of the boards with tennis balls so I can wiggle around a little bit
I think the little bit of give front and back will actually have more impact than people think, unless one has the worlds smoothest pedal stroke. But we'll do some riding with it "locked" (it only locks the front-back motion, not the side-to-side) and test that theory 👌 Not sure if you already have a kickr, but if you do and don't have the newer, soft rubber feet, that could help your situation.
It sounds like you guys didn't know there are multiple motion platforms you can get for the Kickr...some huge and wobbly, others that are compact and efficient. Based on what I see in this video, I'd rate the new MOVE as primitive due to the lack of side rocking motion. It's basically obsolete compared to what's already out there. For sure you don't need to by a new trainer just to get decent motion. Save your money. I'm betting Wahoo is already working on a better version.
We personally know they exist, (maybe not every option, but some) but never bought one due to the floor space they take up. In the winter, we pull our trainers to the side most days to do a home gym routine, and the giant platform situation would make that a headache.
Ok,,,let's be honest,,,it moves around while you are riding, even saw it pogoing while riding it, ok maybe it's good for people who ride full suspension mountain bikes, as that's what they do, me hard tail, Mt bike, that can beat gravel bikes:)
Hi guys, I set up my kickr yesterday. During the first test, I noticed a "scratching noise" when the trainer moved back and forth. Can you confirm that? Here’s a video: th-cam.com/users/shortsE1pgJ19RhaA?si=Yv_K9o_mkXWG6gp3
You had me at minimal styrofoam. 🌳
glad to hear that move! and you can add the thing with the rise too!!
enjoy it!
Looks sweet! But like y’all mentioned, my current kickr won’t die! 4 years with zero issues.
Perfect timing! Heading into the Colorado winter and my Kickr, with 10's of thousands of miles on it, is ready for a refresh. How is the sound, my old boy is pretty loud and hoping to knock that down a few Db. You aren't kidding when you say these things just go and go. I bought mine used when it was several years old and I've put a bunch of miles on it since and it honestly works like what I expect it did as new.
We didn't really make note of the noise at all, so I'd say you'll be fine with it. It's essentially a 2022 model year Kickr sitting on a suspension system, so it'll have the same power feedback, noise levels, etc as those units.
Great little info video always on point and getting the low down on any new kit, or triathlon Bling that's on the horizon. I used to own a rock and roll trainer much the same principal as this giving you a road feel indoors, way better for being indoors on the trainer. Indoors and imagine your outdoor, lol. Nice bit of kit, not withstanding that unfortunately mine might cost me ever so slightly more than yours cost you, Oh to be an elite athlete, I wish, then someone might send me one? In my dreams maybe, have fun riding indoors with your outdoor vibe. stay safe both see you next time, Much love from the UK X
Yup this is meant for me. I have a ROLLR and that has an awesome "feel" but is not as responsive for more intense efforts.
my feelings about the rollers exactly. I love them for 99% of what I do, right until I need to really ramp up and down quickly. I'll probably use both to vary stimulus over the winter
Probably won't be upgrading since I love the kicr we have, but gotta get my zwift account back up for some TTL rides! Excited to see how this changes/improves your indoor training!
Nice! See you on the rides!
This is so cool, I’m hecka jelly right now, out of the saddle can you really crank the bike side to side like irl?
The motion is really optimized for in-the-saddle riding, in my opinion. If it had enough flex to allow true out-of-saddle sprinting and bike throwing, I think it would probably be too wobbly the rest of the time. You do have more freedom out of the saddle, but if you closed your eyes and sprinted, you wouldn't forget you're inside. But that does depend on how aggressively you throw the bike when you sprint.
@@ThatTriathlonLife thanks for the feed back! That makes sense, after reading this I can only think of those MotoGP racing arcade game with the crazy leaning motorcycle and how wild that would be on your bike indoors lol thanks!
Can you guys do a quick video on the easiest way to change rear wheel from road set up onto the kickr? I always feel so uncoordinated doing it and think to myself “it can’t be this hard - the pros do it all the time”. Thanks.
Putting the chain on the 2 smallest cogs (front and back) before swapping the wheel out is the main trick I would say.
yup, this helps a lot!
Thanks. Any tips on balancing your bike with one hand and sliding the wheel on our off with the other while also holding the chain?
I’m guessing you want your front wheel on the ground for this rather than a riser block to allow the wheel to roll forward and backwards slightly?
Yep! We don’t use a riser block for the regular KICKR, it’s designed level so you don’t need one
Presumably this might also be beneficial if you were trying to work on your aero position as it would give more feedback in a controlled environment?
From what I can tell with our limited time so far, it'll definitely allow more people to hold aero for longer, and that'll pay off come outdoor/race season
Such an exciting innovation!
do you think the move is also better for the frame of the bike?
Finally a reason to replace my Gen 1 Kickr with over 40,000 km!
May I ask how much side-to-side play is in the Kickr Move?
Hey this is Eric. I'd call the side-to-side play "natural" feeling and after a few minutes you don't even process it. You don't need to focus to stay upright or in the middle or anything. If you're thinking about it with regards to sprinting out of the saddle, it's not enough to allow true sprint form, but I think it's really well optimized for seated riding and TT riding.
@@ThatTriathlonLife thank you, Eric. Your insight is much appreciated!
Hi Paula, hi Eric! I just watched your clip for a second time. Please excuse me, I don`t want to bother you with my question. But I saw in the clip that you also have a Tacx Neo in your garage. I`ve read several times, that the sideways tilt is more comfortable and not so "cluncy" on the Tacx as on the Wahoo. You both are professionals. What smarttrainer would you prefer riding on? A short answer would be super nice. Thanks! Best regards from Germany, Oliver
this is actually so sick
Did the power feel the same? Mine feels like it’s harder than normal
how is the side to side movment ?
I have heard the side to side can be irritating any thoughts ?
Do you use the Move or just the Kickr V6 on a regular basis? Recent video I think I just saw the non move being utilized but wanted your thoughts as looking to upgrade but not sure if Move is good fit or to go with regular V6 Thank you
Which one have you bought?
Have you had any problems with the "move" part making noise over time or any locking up? Thanks for the great videos!
No we haven't! Have you? Paula did all of her indoor rides on this since we got it, but we did go to California for 2.5 months this year becuase the weather was so brutal here. That's just to say that we haven't put an entire winter worth of training on it yet. But, it feels incredibly smooth and well-built to me, so I'd be pretty shocked to have any issues. -Eric
@@ThatTriathlonLife i just ordered one. I haven't seen anyone post any "long term" reviews on it yet so i was hoping that wasn't because they were having issues. I appreciate you getting back to me! Hope you two have a great time at the wedding and congratulations!
How does it work with the bakc moving but your front wheel not? Does it stay in place?
The front wheel isn’t locked into anything, so it just rolls back and forth slightly 👍
Super into this!
How is it with the climb ? I have the kicker , climb and fan and now I want this. Just living from birthday to birthday to get this stuff
there's a foot adaptor for the climb to make it compatible ! haha
Hey guys, I’ve recently got a 12 speed bike and put my bike on the trainer after changing the cassette on the wahoo. I experienced some popping and skipping of the chain, could this be a me problem? Did I do a mistake?
It's possible that the spacing on your wheel is slightly different from the spacing on the Kickr, and you might need to make a "barrel adjustment" to have the shifting happy. Before that, I would confirm that you've got the right brand cassette, and any spacers it might need between the trainer and the cassette.
Wow! Only got my Kickr v6 this year … if I only knew. Can one adjust how much it moves left/right and back/forth?
There's no adjustment in the amount of motion, to my knowledge, but you can swap the squishy feet out for hard plastic feet, which would have that effect on the side-to-side flex.
Nice review :) ... originally wrote you guys asking if this was harder on a carbon frame... but i worry to much about that. saw a good you tube by GPLama Shane Miller that says don't sprint throwing a carbon bike attached to a trainer side to side but other than that you frame's pretty safe... unless you decide to pick up the kicker by picking up your bike attached to it ;) So I grabbed one of these to try out and hopefully have less > 1 hr ride pain :)
Just finished paying my previous Kickr... now I have to sell the remaining kidney 😅. Well its worth it, I guess
Ha! If you do decide to upgrade, I’m sure the old one would have decent resale value. We have people ask about buying ours all the time
Dibs on the remaining kidney 😂. That way I can try and resell it and get one of these too 😎
@@Seanwg7 Age group triathlete kidney... would re sell really well 🤣🤣🤣
I got this reply from Wahoo:
Hi Matthias,
Thanks for getting in touch! The noises are completely normal so nothing to worry about. The KICKR has been greased in that part so the wheels move, the grease will evenly distribute over a couple of rides.
Regards,
Molly
Customer Support Specialist
Distributor Support Specialist
Wahoo Fitness
Hi TTL team,
Just wondering if this is genuinely a worthwhile upgrade from the Kickr V6? I am a triathlete and struggle to get comfortable staying in the bars for efforts on it. I know I move around when time trialing so was seriously considering this unit as my hope is that it will replicate the road feel a little more.
PS my 14 year old daughter has hijacked my TH-cam account hence the photo and name.
Cheers Jason
What are you two and all the other athletes doing with the older model? Genuinely curious. I am in need of a trainer 😅, I got some $.
Everywhere I look Wahoo… they are going hard with the influencers. Only $1399? That prices most people out.
How would it work with the kickr climb ?
There is a foot adaptor for the climb so that it can move with the bike, but it is compatible
front to back seems pointless... I just need the side to side, riding my trainer right now HURTS after about an hour because the soab doesn't move at all and my gooch and hands get destroyed. I need to get one of the boards with tennis balls so I can wiggle around a little bit
I think the little bit of give front and back will actually have more impact than people think, unless one has the worlds smoothest pedal stroke. But we'll do some riding with it "locked" (it only locks the front-back motion, not the side-to-side) and test that theory 👌
Not sure if you already have a kickr, but if you do and don't have the newer, soft rubber feet, that could help your situation.
Work with thru axle ?
Yup! The bike we have on there is thru-axle 👍
£1399.00
It’s far too expensive for me, but it does look like a great piece of kit 👊
I want one! 😂
Need to sell my other wahoo kickrs now 😅
I wish they had an upgrade program . My kickr works fine … oh well
I've actually hated every moving trainer I've ever used😵💫 Much happier using a regular smart trainer or rollers
I'd think the front wheel would walk side to side.
It sounds like you guys didn't know there are multiple motion platforms you can get for the Kickr...some huge and wobbly, others that are compact and efficient. Based on what I see in this video, I'd rate the new MOVE as primitive due to the lack of side rocking motion. It's basically obsolete compared to what's already out there. For sure you don't need to by a new trainer just to get decent motion. Save your money. I'm betting Wahoo is already working on a better version.
We personally know they exist, (maybe not every option, but some) but never bought one due to the floor space they take up. In the winter, we pull our trainers to the side most days to do a home gym routine, and the giant platform situation would make that a headache.
@@ThatTriathlonLife Yes that's why they make small ones too: th-cam.com/video/J99Zz_bysaE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wEjAapfXCxD_T57t&t=83
Ok,,,let's be honest,,,it moves around while you are riding, even saw it pogoing while riding it, ok maybe it's good for people who ride full suspension mountain bikes, as that's what they do, me hard tail, Mt bike, that can beat gravel bikes:)
Hi guys,
I set up my kickr yesterday. During the first test, I noticed a "scratching noise" when the trainer moved back and forth. Can you confirm that?
Here’s a video:
th-cam.com/users/shortsE1pgJ19RhaA?si=Yv_K9o_mkXWG6gp3
hmm we didn't experience that. Did it go away?
I would Get one, but now I’m worried it will get damaged in postage with no styrofoam to protect it
It’s very well packaged & thought out 🙂
Don’t buy !! It makes your bike tilt to the left and theres no way of fixing it !!
So yeah, a commercial. Exactly what I expected. Cringe. Ugh.