Heres a random thing I just thought of.... Why doesn't Umbreon get Moonblast. I know its dark but with its evolution being based around being at night and being one of the first Pokemon to get Moonlight it sort of feels like a necessity, even if Umbreon isn't often used as a Special attacker.
Marrowak doesn't get Head Smash, it's head looks like it can wreck someone's balls off, but the only head move it gets is Iron Head and the only recoil move he gets for his ability; Rock Head, is Double Edge. Flygon doesn't get Dragon Dance even though almost every other dragon type does... freaking Whiscash gets it and he isn't a dragon. Plus, Whiscash can't attract the ladies like Flygon can. Bitches love Flygon. Machamp doesn't get Mach Punch... It can throw punches really fast... It has Mach in its name... WHY GAME FREAK???!!!
It has mach for macho nvm lol. Even tho 1000 punches in a matter of seconds sounds incredibly fast. Calc the speed for each punch and see if it surpasses sound speed, which is a mach.
TheGCritic The real question is, why does CRAWDAUNT get DD? At least Feraligator and Whiscash COULD be dragons. Crawdaunt doesn't even look remotely like a dragon. I can't even imagine Crawdaunt dancing period.
In the first part you mentioned how Garchomp can't learn Extreme Speed even thought of its dex entries, well... what about the Lati twins? They fly at very high speed, but they don't get that move.
good video BUT it is kinda logical mega charizard X doesn't get sacred fire because that would mean charizard would have to get it while he does not have blue flames
***** yes but i meant that it is logical that mega charizard X gets sacred fire but charizard not really and if charizard X has the move regular charizard has it too
***** those are not good arguments "no one will use it" it is about the fact that he would be able to get it not who would use it. and there was a movie where a golurk turned his legs into a rocket so he can fly and pikachu and raichu can fly because of an event and pikachu is the mascot of the game so he can perform all kinds of weird illogical things
JoeTheLumberjak That... is a valid point. Though I could argue that the reason why Shroomish and Paras get it is because they aren't fully mushrooms, it's kind of a flimsy argument. I don't know really.
Pogiforce Honestly, I just conclude with: Its Pokemon logic. Honestly, following Pokemon logic, theres no good reason for Amoongus NOT to learn leech seed. Honestly, it makes MORE sense for it to learn it, because even though Mushrooms don't produce seeds, Mushrooms DO leech nourishment off of other organisms, so the effect of Leech Seed does make sense. It just would be a bit pointless to create a whole new move that does the same thing to make more sense for a mushroom to use.
If you guys are doing mechanics and stuff, maybe you should talk about the lack of options that males get in terms of style in Kalos. I would kill to have my character to have hair as long as I do lol. Oh and I just realized that Espeon also doesn't get Power Gem despite having one that looks identical to Persian's. And for some reason I think Delphox should get Focus Blast. I mean the Pokedex does say that it enters a focused state when looking into the future. I might be reaching with this one lol
Sacred Fire is a move for only legendary pokemon, specifically Entei and Ho-oh. It's like their signature move, even though they're two of them, because they go hand in hand in Johto lore.
The only other physical electric type moves that aren't exclusive to legendary pokemon are thunder punch,which wouldn't make sense for luxray, and volt tackle which has even more recoil than wild charge.
You talked about Brave Bird and Head Smash complimenting Mega Aerodactyl's ability, but...in addition to that, one of its standard abilities is Rock Head. It's a rock/flying type with an ability that negates recoil damage...and it doesn't get either of those?
Thanks Callum for making this series. I always wanted to make something like this, talking about what moves and abilities a pokemon should get but they didnt. You covered alot I wanted to already but you missed one(that I can think of atm) which I hope you agree with. I have a feeling many people didnt notice this cause it is a rather disliked pokemon to most but is one I liked and tried to use which is why I noticed it: Garbador doesnt get Poison Jab or Earthquake
I am still waiting for Vileplume (and Victreebel for that matter) to get Leech Seed. Oddish got it that ONE time through Pokemon Center event in Japan YEARS ago, but never again.
The Togepi line doesn't get Moonblast The Pidove line doesnt get Brave Bird or Hurricane Butterfree and Beautifly doesnt get Air Slash Metagross doesnt get Calm Mind (actually in 3rd gen it could but not anymore as far as I could remember) Machamp doesnt get Drain Punch Blastiose doesnt get Crunch(Almost every other turtle pokemon gets it except for Torkoal and Blastoise)
I'm thinking they didn't give Ferrothorn Rapid Spin because of its arm/tentacle/stem things that it digs into the ground to 'stand', and it'd be hard to spin around quickly when your arms are wedged into the ground. But now I'm starting to wonder why they didn't give it Gyro Ball other than the fact that gyro ball works well on Ferrothorn.
Because farfetch is actually a bird but there is no reason it shouldn't get head smash. And yeah there is no resin fiancée can't get power gem. It literally is a gem Pokemon. And diamond storm should be special
+HoodlumScrafty At number 7, you mentioned that dusknior was the only physical ghost pokemon without access to shadow claw and phantom force. I think you forgot Golurk, that also needs a good ghost physical stab.
I dont think its really fair to say GameFreak "doesnt care" about competitive battles and balancing them. This is 100% untrue. They do in fact care and in the next games they make they do indeed balance these things out to an extent. Often what they do is look at VGC battles to see what they need to do to balance a pokemon or move. Usually when they view on these battles it makes it more clear for them what needs balancing, for example in previous generations will-o-wisp had an accuracy of 75% which was buffed to 85%, and they also removed being able to prankster roar in competitive. It is true they make pokemon that are ridiculously over powered. Ex: Mega Salamance, Kangaskan, Blazeikein, ect. However this was there first year of making mega evolutions so its trial and error, as well if they truly didnt care, they would have allowed teams of 6 mega evolutions. Even more: if they recognize a certain pokemon is OP, they will restrict its move pool. ex: Blazikein cant get close combat Contrary serpirior has a very limited coverage ability Aswell in ORAS they reintroduced the move tutors and in some cases of those "OP pokemon" they limited which moves it can get from it where a pokemon not nearly as OP as it can learn a lot of moves in contradiction. GameFreaks system of balancing may not be perfect, but they do indeed care about making competitive battles fair to the best they can
***** your first point is fair enough, obviously it would be easier to target down a mega kangaskan in 2v2 then it would be to faint one in singles :P For mega Salamance and rayquaza: of course Mega Salamance is very hard hitting compared to other megas but atleast they only made one OP mega compared to the 4-5 ones they made in X and Y xD As for mega rayquza, in standard battle rules, special legendary pokemon are not allowed to be used (This being the kind of format for competitive they truly care about), so this gives them free reign to make legendary pokemon as strong as they wish to dream of. (Of course there are time to time formats GameFreak hosts that allow legendary pokemon, but this is really a kind of format that is made for fun and not as comparable when making balances to the 4 main formats [singles, doubles, triples, and rotational]) Aswell balancing anything in any videogame can sometimes not the easiest thing to do. For example, if you have ever played a game that uses classes, kits diffrent types of weapons, ect, you probably noticed certain classes and kits are more powerful than another, an most certainly there would be 1 or 2 "classes that stand out the most" Since pokemon has 719 (or 721 how ever u want to count it) known pokemon, the chances that there will be one thats OP is very high, infact since there are such a large amount of them, its most likly there will be a small pool of pokemon which are OP (which is the case we have in competitive battles atm) Of course this is only my view on GameFreaks balancing process/reasoning so why certain things happen and we are both entitled to our own view/opinions ;)
99flamy1 look for each gen we get a broken pokemon gen 1 we had mewtwo gen 2 we still had mewtwo in gen 3 we have rayquaza in gen 4 we have arceus in gen 5 we had kyrum and in gen 6 we got this mega mewtwo and mega rayquaza who have a base stat total of 780 the highest of any pokemon including megas
Sacred Snorlax as i stated before, legendary pokemon are banned from the formats gamefreak hosts, so they make intentionally OP legendarys since you arent suppose to be using them competitively anyway :P
99flamy1 they can be used intell the next update and people beat the game before the first update and in the earlier gens(gen 5-1) only the ones that were banned at the start cant be used in gen 6 they would ban them when ever they wanted the only one that baned pokemon was showdown
electivire to me cant kick since its body is too heavy it should be Jolt Kick And Zebstrika luxray pikachu line lucario hitmonlee and jolteon should learn it and Freeze Kick weavile lucario and hitmonlee
I always found it odd hitmontop can't use u-turn or acrobatics. I get he's a top so u-turn is iffy, but think bayblades, and many times I've see it flip onto the horn on the top of its head that pretty damn acrobatic.
In the case of Aurorus not having Power Gem. I think it's to make more use of its Refrigerate ability. I have an Aurorus that is based around using an Ice-type Hyper Beam due to its low speed.
Mushrooms may not produce seeds, but it doesn't stop Breloom and paracect from learning leech seed and Amoongoss can learn seed moves like worry seed, bullet seed and seed bomb. Using real life facts in a fictional video game, is sometimes pointless.
I'm not sure if I commented this on the last Injustice video, but I really feel that Typhlosion should really get Earth Power. I mean, magma literally erupts from the ground. Typhlosion can learn Eruption, and is the only other Pokémon (as far as I know) that can besides Camerupt and Groudon, who are ground based. It would also make it have a good special Ground type move to use instead of Earthquake. I don't see why other less qualified Pokémon like Hydreigon can learn Earth Power, when Typhlosion can't. I can't be the only one who thinks so, right?
awesome video was looking forward to this :) i totally agree with aerodactyl not getting head smash. i mean it already learns iron head per level up... though head smash and brave bird would make it terribly broken cuz it has access to rock head which negates recoil damage
The reason squirtle gets aura sphere is because blastoise's mega evolution gets the mega launcher ability which increases the power of aura moves like aura sphere.
Zach Galer I got that but it doesn't fit into the move's lore for squirtle to know it. There are a bunch of Pokemon that should have gotten it first including Gengar, Alakazam, Infernape, Xerneas and many more.
Godz Amoongus It literally has aura in its ability and it can learn Focus Blast. It fills the requirements of having mystic power and move compatibility, there is no reason why it can't learn Aura Sphere.
tbh Aerodactyl shouldn't get Brave Bird so it's not really an injustice. You can't say that he deserves it just because he is a Flying Type and he has Rock Head when he is not even a bird.
Bren T ***** Blaziken *is* a bird, so that case is out of the way. Now Crobat is something different. Here's the thing: Crobat *needed* Brave Bird because unlike Aerodactyl or Gliscor (for example) he actually needed a STAB and powerful Flying type move because he is shit without it. What would his moveset be without Brave Bird? Cross Poison, Roost, U-turn and what? Aerial Ace? What I'm trying to say is that Crobat become a better pokemon with Brave Bird because the only thing good about him was his speed and he needed a good flying type move to complete a good moveset. Now Gliscor and Aerodactyl only have the Flying type because of design and pokedex descriptions. Aerodactyl could be Rock/Dragon with Levitate or something or it could just be only Rock/Dragon with his current abilities because it wouldn't be the first time that Game Freak ignored the fact that the pokemon flies. And Gliscor could definitely be a Ground/Poison type with Levitate since he doesn't really fly, he just glides/levitates. But Gliscor was just an example. What I'm trying to say is that those two pokemon only got the Flying Type because of design and pokedex descriptions and they would be fine without it. But Crobar actually beneficiates from his Flying type and he needed a good STAB move. I hope that I was clear enough :)
chaosjules72 I mean, it still gets it via breeding. And Flare Blitz was introduced in gen 4, and Typhlosion is a gen 2 Pokémon so they probably made it a breed only move so they didn't have to tamper with its whole learnset.
Sarcasm the Sickness Yeah I know it's accessible through breeding but they real should've taken the time out for it. They did it for Charizard and Blaziken the super chicken. I'm just pointing out the every fire starter can learn it leveling up except him and Delphox but I can understand why Delphox doesn't.
Onix nor Scolipede get Coil. Scolipede is based on a centipede, which are known to coil if disturbed (like being in a battle...), so it seems natural. Onix is litterally a giant rock snake, and all other snake/eel like pokemon get coil.
Sacred fire isnt even a contact move so it doesnt get the tough claws boost. It will be doing slightly higher damage than fire punch, but has a 50%chance to burn. Instead of running will-o-wisp and flare blitz you could use sacred fire and maybe give it some other move for coverage.
Can somebody explain to me why Pyroar can't learn Flare Blitz? It looks like it can just cloak itself in flames and murder everything. I mean, it gets moxie. So if you want to use a physical pyroar, you're forced to use moves like wild charge and return.
Sandeep Kalsi pyroar is a special attacker that's why and at base 68 physical attack who is running a physical pyroar you spam hyper voice and flamethrower with choice specs and a base 109 special attack stat
Sandeep Kalsi lol actually giving a pokemon wiht base 68 attack moxie is downright a joke, or pyroar just having 68 base attack - even sunflora, a sunflower has more, so yea sunflowers are physically stronger than lions, makes perfect sense
#8 yeah but it's a barnacle, it not really being able to do much on it's own does tend to make sense. After all when was the last time you saw a barnacle dive around the ocean or climb a waterfall.
but he can learn other moves that can cause disasters like Fire Blast, Thunder, and Blizzard, plus Night Slash which in Japan is called Crossroad Killing.
BuliFanatico Well, Carbink suddenly turns into Diancie, almost like an evolution, not the other way round so it makes sense for Carbink not to have Diamond Storm
Skuntank with no Physical Poison moves other than Poison Jab! It's bad enough it only has one physical poison move as a TM but we have ORAS move tutors and yet none of them want to teach Skuntank Gunk Shot?! No Gunk Shot? Really? You let Monkey, cats, snakes and rodent pokemon learn this but you can't teach it to a Physical Tank Skunk?! Not even Poison Tail!?
Lets see...Samurott doesn't get Calm Mind or Shell Smash. I mean, it is a Samurai, and some warriors do tend to calm their mind before going into battle. Also, Shell Smash...yeah,
I don't know if it's just me, but I am a little bit upset that not all pokemon that get Defense Curl also get Rollout. For example, Porygon2 and Buneary/Lopunny.
+Sarcasm the Sickness shroomish may be a mushroom, but its more of a creature than a mushroom as presented by its evolution, breloom looks a lot like a dinosaur, just saying like a raptor or something. Paras and Parasect are not mushroom mons, they are being infected by a parasite that presents itself as a mushroom.
I sure they don't give these moves to certain Pokémon because of balancing issues (Charizard with Sacred Fire, really?). Sure, I'd like it if Gardevoir had Boomburst in its movepool (it kind of makes sense too) but that doesn't mean it's an injustice just because it doesn't have it. Do you know how OP M-Gardevoir would become if it did?
TyroneTiggums64 gale wings talonflame when I have to have a hearten or a rotom wash just for talonflame its broken so GF has made broken pokemon before also pixlated boomburst everything is dying lmao and flareblize is stronger then sacredfire so charizard wouldnt be broken with it
Okay maybe it's just because I want some Pokemon with False Swipe a Sleep move and a trapping move all in one because I'm not good but I think Persian should have mean look and False Swipe. I would also like it if Mega Persian turned into a Dark Type and had a "Darkilate" ability but that's just me.
Scrafty doesn't get bullet punch or Mach punch. I'm surprised Callum didn't talk about that, especially cuz scrafty isn't so fast. And ik he has dragon dance to cover that, but it would just make a little more sense if he got those 2 moves.
Amoongus doesn't get Leech Seed because it isn't based on a plant, but on a mushroom. Mushrooms do not procreate with seeds, but with spores. That's why it learns all the spore moves. You can argue that it's a grass type, but I don't think they even should be.
You know what a REAL move pool injustice there is? Rotom. When you change its forms you only get the option to learn 1 elemental attack. Air Slash for Rotom-Fan. not too bad. Overheat for Rotom-Heat makes sense but why can't it learn fire blast or flamethrower? also lowers sp att too. Rotom-Mow only gets leaf storm which lowers its special attack. Rotom-Frost only gets blizzard, when ice beam is a much more trusted competitive ice type move(UNLESS you run Snow Warning/Hail) Rotom-Wash only gets Hydro Pump. Imagine if it got scald instead, the bulkiness of it, being specially bulky and then crippling the attack of an opponent? its a washing machine, they generally tend to produce hot and cold water.
***** erm... leaf storm = grass type overheat... the only one that got a consistent attack is rotom-fan, but they balanced it out by giving him a useless type/ability soo yeah (no love for my lawn mower)
GAMO1992 I already hate rotom wash bad anuff it can willo me to burn me but you want it to get scald why not give it ice beam to cover its only weakness grass too lmao
logical reason behind amoongus not getting leech seed: its a mushroom, mushrooms use spores to reproduce, amoongus gets spoor. It doesn't get leech seed for that reason.
Scyther wouldn't get Fly because that means you can ride it and fly around on it in the games. I know things like Pidgey get it, but it makes more sense for an actual bird to be able to use a move called Fly and allow you to ride on it than an insect, even if the insect has wings.
Scyther can't learn Fly due to a really logic reason. The higher you get, the stronger the pressure gets, and the stronger the wind currents get. Pidgey gets it because its Pokédex entry says it can create tornados and sandstorms with its wings, which shows a really impressive strenght. On the other hand, bugs can't fly high due to the frailness of its wings, which is showed several times in real life. There was one example of Bug/Flying being able to fly high in the anime, but that was a Ledian.
Recommended movepool injustice: Umbreon doesn't get moonblast. It's a fairy type move, sure, but the description is, "borrowing the power of the moon, the user attacks the target." Umbreon's pokedex entry in Y says "when exposed to the moon's aura, the rings on its body glow faintly and it's filled with a mysterious power." It's even classified as the moonlight pokemon. Makes no sense to me. Heck it can even learn moonlight, but not moonblast?
When you said slap to the face on barbaracle, wouldn't that be a high five?
CyndaAndGaming thought the same thing bro
Heres a random thing I just thought of.... Why doesn't Umbreon get Moonblast. I know its dark but with its evolution being based around being at night and being one of the first Pokemon to get Moonlight it sort of feels like a necessity, even if Umbreon isn't often used as a Special attacker.
Marrowak doesn't get Head Smash, it's head looks like it can wreck someone's balls off, but the only head move it gets is Iron Head and the only recoil move he gets for his ability; Rock Head, is Double Edge.
Flygon doesn't get Dragon Dance even though almost every other dragon type does... freaking Whiscash gets it and he isn't a dragon. Plus, Whiscash can't attract the ladies like Flygon can. Bitches love Flygon.
Machamp doesn't get Mach Punch... It can throw punches really fast... It has Mach in its name... WHY GAME FREAK???!!!
It has mach for macho nvm lol. Even tho 1000 punches in a matter of seconds sounds incredibly fast. Calc the speed for each punch and see if it surpasses sound speed, which is a mach.
Doesn't get Mach punch but gets Bullet Punch... Makes sense...
TheGCritic I'm so mad that Flygon doesn't get Dragon Dance. It's so unfair...
MasterImpsy I know, it's like if Scyther didn't have Swords Dance (good thing it does), but Whiscash gets DDance because potatoes.
TheGCritic The real question is, why does CRAWDAUNT get DD? At least Feraligator and Whiscash COULD be dragons. Crawdaunt doesn't even look remotely like a dragon. I can't even imagine Crawdaunt dancing period.
In the first part you mentioned how Garchomp can't learn Extreme Speed even thought of its dex entries, well... what about the Lati twins? They fly at very high speed, but they don't get that move.
***** If they get it, I may see more physical Mega Lati@s, or just special ones with ESpeed
***** DUDE PHYSICAL MEGA LATIOS WOULD BE SO CLUTCH THEN >0
'What makes farfetchd more worthy to get brave BIRD than aerodactlyl. Maybe the fact that farfetchd IS a fucking BIRD.
Also, why does dodrio get brave bird WHEN IT CANT EVEN FLY?!?!
Jared Laporte the better question is why does it get fly when it doesn't even fly
Dodrio does fly
Dodrio supposedly runs so fast that it begins floating off the ground.
+One of many Humans no it flaps its legs like wings...seriosly look it up
...just trust me
Klefki doesn't het High Jump Kick. WTF?
Farfetchd should learn roar of time.
*Koffing/Weezing:* the Poison Gas pokemon... cannot learn Poison Gas
+Ricardo "BTC" yes it can
+Ricardo "BTC" By level up.
RobertPlaysPokemon PRO It couldn't in Gen 1. But even in today's gens, it's a starting move, so it won't get it without breeding.
Ricardo "BTC" k
+Ricardo "BTC" Heart scales
What about dog pokemon (growlithe, eevee ,electrike, riolu poochyena ,zorua, furfrou ,houndour.etc) not getting lick?
good video BUT it is kinda logical mega charizard X doesn't get sacred fire because that would mean charizard would have to get it while he does not have blue flames
***** ***** well now that i think about it Ho-oh and Entei don't specificly have blue flames either XD
***** yes but i meant that it is logical that mega charizard X gets sacred fire but charizard not really and if charizard X has the move regular charizard has it too
***** check gen 5 bro, and you'll see your mistake (amphy learns d-pulse through tutor in B2W2)
***** those are not good arguments "no one will use it" it is about the fact that he would be able to get it not who would use it. and there was a movie where a golurk turned his legs into a rocket so he can fly and pikachu and raichu can fly because of an event and pikachu is the mascot of the game so he can perform all kinds of weird illogical things
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All 3 types of zard use will-o-wisp as a somewhat niche move. If that is the case why would zard y not use this sun boosted 50% burning move?
the reason why Amoongus doesn't get Leech Seed is because it's a mushroom. Mushrooms produce spores, not seeds. It's not a seed bearing plant.
+Pogiforce Then why do the Paras and Shroomish lines learn it? :s
JoeTheLumberjak That... is a valid point. Though I could argue that the reason why Shroomish and Paras get it is because they aren't fully mushrooms, it's kind of a flimsy argument. I don't know really.
Pogiforce Honestly, I just conclude with: Its Pokemon logic. Honestly, following Pokemon logic, theres no good reason for Amoongus NOT to learn leech seed. Honestly, it makes MORE sense for it to learn it, because even though Mushrooms don't produce seeds, Mushrooms DO leech nourishment off of other organisms, so the effect of Leech Seed does make sense. It just would be a bit pointless to create a whole new move that does the same thing to make more sense for a mushroom to use.
+JoeTheLumberjak science!(:
Well done guys! This is a really cool series. Keep it up.
torterra doesn't get dragon acent
Matt Boy Good point! It must get it!
***** ikr how can you forget about join lol lmoa
but i can fly
If you guys are doing mechanics and stuff, maybe you should talk about the lack of options that males get in terms of style in Kalos. I would kill to have my character to have hair as long as I do lol.
Oh and I just realized that Espeon also doesn't get Power Gem despite having one that looks identical to Persian's.
And for some reason I think Delphox should get Focus Blast. I mean the Pokedex does say that it enters a focused state when looking into the future. I might be reaching with this one lol
Sasori2105 I've seen Espeon with Power Gem!
The JazzieNerd Really? Where?
Thinking back on it, it may have been in a Drayano hack. Yeah, I think I was watching a Blaze Black nuzlocke. So never mind.
Sacred Fire is a move for only legendary pokemon, specifically Entei and Ho-oh. It's like their signature move, even though they're two of them, because they go hand in hand in Johto lore.
THANKS FOR UPLOADING CALLUM THIS SERIES IS AMAZING!!!! I haven't watched this episode yet so I'm hoping for earthquake/hurricane/explosion absol!
I guessed it!!
On that Aerodactyl part, he also has Rock Head, which means it's even more viable for BOTH!
If you do decide to do a part 3 i feel like typhlosion should be on that list due to his piss poor special movepool in general
This series is fucking great, this should be posted more often
That would be great thanks!
Luxray should be on the next video. He gets no reliable or relevant electric physical stab moves
+PepperonibeatsZombie Spark? Thunder Fang? Wild Charge?
So which of those are relevant and reliable?
The only other physical electric type moves that aren't exclusive to legendary pokemon are thunder punch,which wouldn't make sense for luxray, and volt tackle which has even more recoil than wild charge.
Wobbuffet - Recover. I just want the world to burn
Oh man, finally, I've been waiting too long for this
You talked about Brave Bird and Head Smash complimenting Mega Aerodactyl's ability, but...in addition to that, one of its standard abilities is Rock Head. It's a rock/flying type with an ability that negates recoil damage...and it doesn't get either of those?
Thanks Callum for making this series. I always wanted to make something like this, talking about what moves and abilities a pokemon should get but they didnt. You covered alot I wanted to already but you missed one(that I can think of atm) which I hope you agree with. I have a feeling many people didnt notice this cause it is a rather disliked pokemon to most but is one I liked and tried to use which is why I noticed it:
Garbador doesnt get Poison Jab or Earthquake
I am still waiting for Vileplume (and Victreebel for that matter) to get Leech Seed. Oddish got it that ONE time through Pokemon Center event in Japan YEARS ago, but never again.
The Togepi line doesn't get Moonblast
The Pidove line doesnt get Brave Bird or Hurricane
Butterfree and Beautifly doesnt get Air Slash
Metagross doesnt get Calm Mind (actually in 3rd gen it could but not anymore as far as I could remember)
Machamp doesnt get Drain Punch
Blastiose doesnt get Crunch(Almost every other turtle pokemon gets it except for Torkoal and Blastoise)
***** Infernape can't get Drain Punch either, which was kind of strange for me.
08Juan80 I prefer if it got Aura Sphere instead
Staraptor gets brave bird
Elias Leikvoll I dont have Staraptor up there
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I'm thinking they didn't give Ferrothorn Rapid Spin because of its arm/tentacle/stem things that it digs into the ground to 'stand', and it'd be hard to spin around quickly when your arms are wedged into the ground. But now I'm starting to wonder why they didn't give it Gyro Ball other than the fact that gyro ball works well on Ferrothorn.
Because farfetch is actually a bird but there is no reason it shouldn't get head smash. And yeah there is no resin fiancée can't get power gem. It literally is a gem Pokemon. And diamond storm should be special
Damn, seismitoed doesn't get waterfall? O_o
You lie! Your face was backwards!
Yea I was about to put it on my RU team but then I saw it didn't get waterfall O_o
I don't know if they mentioned it in the first video, but Poliwrath doesn't get drain punch or close combat. It has to use brick break for STAB.
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i know one injustice i found out during my Y playthrough. Dedenne has no access to any special fairy type moves when its primarily a special attacker.
ikr the only fairy offensive move is play rough
+HoodlumScrafty
At number 7, you mentioned that dusknior was the only physical ghost pokemon without access to shadow claw and phantom force. I think you forgot Golurk, that also needs a good ghost physical stab.
Repethen actually there should be more physical ghost attacks.. only know shadow claw, astonish and phantom force
Same thing applies to Yanmega. Its pokedex entries said that it can transport human via flight.
Can't learn Fly.
I dont think its really fair to say GameFreak "doesnt care" about competitive battles and balancing them. This is 100% untrue. They do in fact care and in the next games they make they do indeed balance these things out to an extent.
Often what they do is look at VGC battles to see what they need to do to balance a pokemon or move. Usually when they view on these battles it makes it more clear for them what needs balancing, for example in previous generations will-o-wisp had an accuracy of 75% which was buffed to 85%, and they also removed being able to prankster roar in competitive.
It is true they make pokemon that are ridiculously over powered. Ex: Mega Salamance, Kangaskan, Blazeikein, ect.
However this was there first year of making mega evolutions so its trial and error, as well if they truly didnt care, they would have allowed teams of 6 mega evolutions.
Even more: if they recognize a certain pokemon is OP, they will restrict its move pool.
ex: Blazikein cant get close combat
Contrary serpirior has a very limited coverage ability
Aswell in ORAS they reintroduced the move tutors and in some cases of those "OP pokemon" they limited which moves it can get from it where a pokemon not nearly as OP as it can learn a lot of moves in contradiction.
GameFreaks system of balancing may not be perfect, but they do indeed care about making competitive battles fair to the best they can
***** your first point is fair enough, obviously it would be easier to target down a mega kangaskan in 2v2 then it would be to faint one in singles :P
For mega Salamance and rayquaza: of course Mega Salamance is very hard hitting compared to other megas but atleast they only made one OP mega compared to the 4-5 ones they made in X and Y xD
As for mega rayquza, in standard battle rules, special legendary pokemon are not allowed to be used (This being the kind of format for competitive they truly care about), so this gives them free reign to make legendary pokemon as strong as they wish to dream of. (Of course there are time to time formats GameFreak hosts that allow legendary pokemon, but this is really a kind of format that is made for fun and not as comparable when making balances to the 4 main formats [singles, doubles, triples, and rotational])
Aswell balancing anything in any videogame can sometimes not the easiest thing to do. For example, if you have ever played a game that uses classes, kits diffrent types of weapons, ect, you probably noticed certain classes and kits are more powerful than another, an most certainly there would be 1 or 2 "classes that stand out the most"
Since pokemon has 719 (or 721 how ever u want to count it) known pokemon, the chances that there will be one thats OP is very high, infact since there are such a large amount of them, its most likly there will be a small pool of pokemon which are OP (which is the case we have in competitive battles atm)
Of course this is only my view on GameFreaks balancing process/reasoning so why certain things happen
and we are both entitled to our own view/opinions ;)
99flamy1 look for each gen we get a broken pokemon gen 1 we had mewtwo gen 2 we still had mewtwo in gen 3 we have rayquaza in gen 4 we have arceus in gen 5 we had kyrum and in gen 6 we got this mega mewtwo and mega rayquaza who have a base stat total of 780 the highest of any pokemon including megas
Sacred Snorlax as i stated before, legendary pokemon are banned from the formats gamefreak hosts, so they make intentionally OP legendarys since you arent suppose to be using them competitively anyway :P
99flamy1 they can be used intell the next update and people beat the game before the first update and in the earlier gens(gen 5-1) only the ones that were banned at the start cant be used in gen 6 they would ban them when ever they wanted the only one that baned pokemon was showdown
***** no i mean op as in game breaking to the story and competitive
why is there no electric or ice type variety of "blaze kick"
Elekid/buz/vire line would really love a volt kick!
electivire to me cant kick since its body is too heavy it should be Jolt Kick And Zebstrika luxray pikachu line lucario hitmonlee and jolteon should learn it and Freeze Kick weavile lucario and hitmonlee
Well it is sorta obvious why ferro does not get spiky shield if you see the chespin line's animation for it.
I always found it odd hitmontop can't use u-turn or acrobatics. I get he's a top so u-turn is iffy, but think bayblades, and many times I've see it flip onto the horn on the top of its head that pretty damn acrobatic.
Yeah, I REALLY agree with #05.
No bias included for grass for it.
How did you get some of them to do it in the game?
In the case of Aurorus not having Power Gem. I think it's to make more use of its Refrigerate ability. I have an Aurorus that is based around using an Ice-type Hyper Beam due to its low speed.
jepaai20 no one uses hyper beam cause you can be easily be set up on it
Mushrooms may not produce seeds, but it doesn't stop Breloom and paracect from learning leech seed and Amoongoss can learn seed moves like worry seed, bullet seed and seed bomb. Using real life facts in a fictional video game, is sometimes pointless.
Blaziken learns braved bird. It is a chicken. Chickens can't fly.
: D
DiarmyPlays Blaziken can't learn Fly. There may be a reason for it to learn Brave Bird, but yeah Blaziken can't learn Fly.
i never mentioned fly look at the animation for braved bird they take off and swoop in at them
DiarmyPlays At least it doesn't fly high like it would do with Fly.
yea lol
I'm not sure if I commented this on the last Injustice video, but I really feel that Typhlosion should really get Earth Power.
I mean, magma literally erupts from the ground. Typhlosion can learn Eruption, and is the only other Pokémon (as far as I know) that can besides Camerupt and Groudon, who are ground based. It would also make it have a good special Ground type move to use instead of Earthquake.
I don't see why other less qualified Pokémon like Hydreigon can learn Earth Power, when Typhlosion can't. I can't be the only one who thinks so, right?
I see. That's cool. As I said, I didn't remember if I mentioned it or not. Thanks lol
what about nuzleaf not getting grass whistle when it's shown using it in the anime
awesome video was looking forward to this :)
i totally agree with aerodactyl not getting head smash. i mean it already learns iron head per level up...
though head smash and brave bird would make it terribly broken cuz it has access to rock head which negates recoil damage
Why doesn't pidgeot get boomburst or hyper voice, or why doesn't unfezant get brave bird?
What about Heracross not getting Horn Leech or Drain Punch? He already uses his horn for Megahorn and he can learn Focus Lunch.
Yeah, HERACROSS EATS THAT FOCUS!!!!!!
with all those goddamn arms and its rock typing WHY THE F*CK DOES BARBARCLE NOT GET ROCK CLIMB?!?
And why is Rock Climb a normal type? It's just sad.... injustices of move types..
So you're made of rock but you can't climb rocks....... irony
Pelipper and Wingull not getting DIVE
Biggest Pokemon Move injustice? The fact that Squirtle got Aura Sphere when I can easily think of *a dozen* Pokemon that should have gotten it first!
The reason squirtle gets aura sphere is because blastoise's mega evolution gets the mega launcher ability which increases the power of aura moves like aura sphere.
Zach Galer I got that but it doesn't fit into the move's lore for squirtle to know it. There are a bunch of Pokemon that should have gotten it first including Gengar, Alakazam, Infernape, Xerneas and many more.
+The Nerd Beast how does Xerneus need it
Godz Amoongus It literally has aura in its ability and it can learn Focus Blast. It fills the requirements of having mystic power and move compatibility, there is no reason why it can't learn Aura Sphere.
Fairy Aura powers up Fairy Type moves by 33% in battle. Aura Sphere is a Fighting Type move.
tbh Aerodactyl shouldn't get Brave Bird so it's not really an injustice. You can't say that he deserves it just because he is a Flying Type and he has Rock Head when he is not even a bird.
You're correct, only actual birds should get brave bird.
And blaziken. And Crobat. Yeah no, aerodactyl should get brave bird
Bren T ***** Blaziken *is* a bird, so that case is out of the way. Now Crobat is something different. Here's the thing: Crobat *needed* Brave Bird because unlike Aerodactyl or Gliscor (for example) he actually needed a STAB and powerful Flying type move because he is shit without it. What would his moveset be without Brave Bird? Cross Poison, Roost, U-turn and what? Aerial Ace? What I'm trying to say is that Crobat become a better pokemon with Brave Bird because the only thing good about him was his speed and he needed a good flying type move to complete a good moveset.
Now Gliscor and Aerodactyl only have the Flying type because of design and pokedex descriptions. Aerodactyl could be Rock/Dragon with Levitate or something or it could just be only Rock/Dragon with his current abilities because it wouldn't be the first time that Game Freak ignored the fact that the pokemon flies. And Gliscor could definitely be a Ground/Poison type with Levitate since he doesn't really fly, he just glides/levitates. But Gliscor was just an example. What I'm trying to say is that those two pokemon only got the Flying Type because of design and pokedex descriptions and they would be fine without it. But Crobar actually beneficiates from his Flying type and he needed a good STAB move. I hope that I was clear enough :)
How come Typhlosion doesn't get Flare Blitz via level up? The 2 main moves it learns are flame wheel and Double-edge. what's up with that?
chaosjules72 I mean, it still gets it via breeding. And Flare Blitz was introduced in gen 4, and Typhlosion is a gen 2 Pokémon so they probably made it a breed only move so they didn't have to tamper with its whole learnset.
Sarcasm the Sickness
Yeah I know it's accessible through breeding but they real should've taken the time out for it. They did it for Charizard and Blaziken the super chicken. I'm just pointing out the every fire starter can learn it leveling up except him and Delphox but I can understand why Delphox doesn't.
Onix nor Scolipede get Coil. Scolipede is based on a centipede, which are known to coil if disturbed (like being in a battle...), so it seems natural. Onix is litterally a giant rock snake, and all other snake/eel like pokemon get coil.
When you guys make these move pool videos how do you get footage of them using the moves you say they can't learn?
Palathaxx androqelee It may be a little late to answer but still
They use a Pokemon generator and hack the moves in
Furret does not get tickle. Just look at the end of its tail. It only make since if a Pokemon can tickle another Pokemon with is fury tail.
Sacred fire isnt even a contact move so it doesnt get the tough claws boost. It will be doing slightly higher damage than fire punch, but has a 50%chance to burn. Instead of running will-o-wisp and flare blitz you could use sacred fire and maybe give it some other move for coverage.
Can somebody explain to me why Pyroar can't learn Flare Blitz? It looks like it can just cloak itself in flames and murder everything.
I mean, it gets moxie. So if you want to use a physical pyroar, you're forced to use moves like wild charge and return.
Sandeep Kalsi pyroar is a special attacker that's why and at base 68 physical attack who is running a physical pyroar you spam hyper voice and flamethrower with choice specs and a base 109 special attack stat
Sandeep Kalsi lol actually giving a pokemon wiht base 68 attack moxie is downright a joke, or pyroar just having 68 base attack - even sunflora, a sunflower has more, so yea sunflowers are physically stronger than lions, makes perfect sense
Nihil Dwo I honestly think they had no idea what ablity to give pyroar lol
Absol doesn't learn these moves because it doesnt create the disaster but it tries to warn for disasters
#8 yeah but it's a barnacle, it not really being able to do much on it's own does tend to make sense.
After all when was the last time you saw a barnacle dive around the ocean or climb a waterfall.
It actually makes sense that Absol doesn't learn hurricane and earthquake since he is not the one that cause disasters, but he still gets blamed.
but he can learn other moves that can cause disasters like Fire Blast, Thunder, and Blizzard, plus Night Slash which in Japan is called Crossroad Killing.
Isn't Diancie according to the movie a pink diamond Pokemon? I mean it does get Diamond Storm whilst carbink doesn't.
BuliFanatico Well, Carbink suddenly turns into Diancie, almost like an evolution, not the other way round so it makes sense for Carbink not to have Diamond Storm
Is it specified though that all Carbinks can turn into a diancie? Or did a Diancie just "deviate" from the normal line of carbinks while breeding?
BuliFanatico I believe it is the latter.
Skuntank with no Physical Poison moves other than Poison Jab! It's bad enough it only has one physical poison move as a TM but we have ORAS move tutors and yet none of them want to teach Skuntank Gunk Shot?!
No Gunk Shot? Really? You let Monkey, cats, snakes and rodent pokemon learn this but you can't teach it to a Physical Tank Skunk?!
Not even Poison Tail!?
a PANDA learns gunk shot!
And yet, it learns Flamethrower
Spikey Shield is Chesnaught's signature move, like Delphox has Mystic Fire and Greninja has Water Shuiriken. And Mat Block.
Why doesn't Kyurem-Black get Ice punch. it makes sense competitivly because its a good physical ice move and its entire left arm is made of ice
for #6 entai can learn scared fire without being a event u just need a heart scale. idk if u knew his b4 the video so i just wanna point it out
Lets see...Samurott doesn't get Calm Mind or Shell Smash. I mean, it is a Samurai, and some warriors do tend to calm their mind before going into battle. Also, Shell Smash...yeah,
I don't know if it's just me, but I am a little bit upset that not all pokemon that get Defense Curl also get Rollout. For example, Porygon2 and Buneary/Lopunny.
Amoongus is a mushroom, and mushrooms don't have seeds because they are not plants. It makes sense that it doesn't get it.
Random Complex But, like he said, the other mushroom Pokémon DO get it. Shroomish/Breloom and Paras/Parasect.
+Sarcasm the Sickness shroomish may be a mushroom, but its more of a creature than a mushroom as presented by its evolution, breloom looks a lot like a dinosaur, just saying like a raptor or something. Paras and Parasect are not mushroom mons, they are being infected by a parasite that presents itself as a mushroom.
Doesn't amoongus get leech seed as an egg move or did they not count those
+Samuel Adams (Samshrew) No it does not get leech see as an egg move
oh it would probably be better if it had leech seed
Ammoongus can't get leech seeds because it reproduces by spores not seeds
Can we please talk about Beheeyem getting steel wing? Even if it's TM51, that doesn't give an excuse imo...
Silver HEY! He can do anything if he sets his MIND to it. Get it? Mind? I know, its awful...
Amoongus is a mushroom pokemon, mushrooms do not give off seeds but instead use spores to reproduce. Maybe that's why they don't give it leech seed.
This is ten times better, Callum sounds MUCH clearer this time around.
Charizard is not a legendary from Johto or any legendary at all, so does it need Sacred Fire?
so just cause it isnt a johto legend means sacred fire shouldnt be learned
I sure they don't give these moves to certain Pokémon because of balancing issues (Charizard with Sacred Fire, really?). Sure, I'd like it if Gardevoir had Boomburst in its movepool (it kind of makes sense too) but that doesn't mean it's an injustice just because it doesn't have it. Do you know how OP M-Gardevoir would become if it did?
TyroneTiggums64 gale wings talonflame when I have to have a hearten or a rotom wash just for talonflame its broken so GF has made broken pokemon before also pixlated boomburst everything is dying lmao and flareblize is stronger then sacredfire so charizard wouldnt be broken with it
Here is an injustice: Volcarona learns Fly and FLOATS but is hit by Spikes and CANNOT be used in Sky Battles.
Mismagius can learn Dream Eater, but no moves to put the opponent to sleep in the first place.
What about kyurem-black with any punch moves?
Okay maybe it's just because I want some Pokemon with False Swipe a Sleep move and a trapping move all in one because I'm not good but I think Persian should have mean look and False Swipe. I would also like it if Mega Persian turned into a Dark Type and had a "Darkilate" ability but that's just me.
Scrafty doesn't get bullet punch or Mach punch. I'm surprised Callum didn't talk about that, especially cuz scrafty isn't so fast. And ik he has dragon dance to cover that, but it would just make a little more sense if he got those 2 moves.
May I ask why Claydol used HYPER BEAM on a DUSKNOIR?...
Because it was a wild Claydol, the wild Pokemon use moves at random.
Wow I thought that wilds had better AI than that.
Nate Wolf No it's because they are playing a hacked version.
Amoongus doesn't get Leech Seed because it isn't based on a plant, but on a mushroom. Mushrooms do not procreate with seeds, but with spores. That's why it learns all the spore moves. You can argue that it's a grass type, but I don't think they even should be.
Gigalith has giant crystals in its body, and they glow when it attacks, it does have gems callum
Shuckle can't get recycle and it can't get the ability harvest, I mean it makes sense it literally stores berries in its shell
Its so hard what feature will be #1 next episode. I look at you heart gold and soul silver
I'm so happy you guys used my Amoonguss suggestion!!!
This series is very original, i like it :D
You know what a REAL move pool injustice there is?
Rotom. When you change its forms you only get the option to learn 1 elemental attack.
Air Slash for Rotom-Fan. not too bad.
Overheat for Rotom-Heat makes sense but why can't it learn fire blast or flamethrower? also lowers sp att too.
Rotom-Mow only gets leaf storm which lowers its special attack.
Rotom-Frost only gets blizzard, when ice beam is a much more trusted competitive ice type move(UNLESS you run Snow Warning/Hail)
Rotom-Wash only gets Hydro Pump. Imagine if it got scald instead, the bulkiness of it, being specially bulky and then crippling the attack of an opponent? its a washing machine, they generally tend to produce hot and cold water.
***** erm... leaf storm = grass type overheat... the only one that got a consistent attack is rotom-fan, but they balanced it out by giving him a useless type/ability soo yeah (no love for my lawn mower)
GAMO1992 I already hate rotom wash bad anuff it can willo me to burn me but you want it to get scald why not give it ice beam to cover its only weakness grass too lmao
GAMO1992 Y NO HURRICANE 4 ROTOM-F
NinCentral Plaza y not? ;)
I cringed when I read Scald for Rotom Wash. That's some scary shit.
What about Gliscor and Yanmega not getting fly though
why does luvdisc not evolve into alomomola?
logical reason behind amoongus not getting leech seed: its a mushroom, mushrooms use spores to reproduce, amoongus gets spoor. It doesn't get leech seed for that reason.
Scyther wouldn't get Fly because that means you can ride it and fly around on it in the games. I know things like Pidgey get it, but it makes more sense for an actual bird to be able to use a move called Fly and allow you to ride on it than an insect, even if the insect has wings.
Scyther can't learn Fly due to a really logic reason. The higher you get, the stronger the pressure gets, and the stronger the wind currents get. Pidgey gets it because its Pokédex entry says it can create tornados and sandstorms with its wings, which shows a really impressive strenght. On the other hand, bugs can't fly high due to the frailness of its wings, which is showed several times in real life. There was one example of Bug/Flying being able to fly high in the anime, but that was a Ledian.
Slowbro should learn ice fang. Look at those teeth. If they stuck with Lapras' old design, it should learn that too.
Hey, why doesn't torterra get dragon ascent? It's extremely fitting.
LOOK AT DIANCIE'S LEVEL UP MOVES, IT IS ABLE TO LEARN POWER GEM AND PLUS THE CRYSTAL LOOKING THINGS ON AURORUS'S NECK, BODY AND TAIL IS ICE!
Recommended movepool injustice: Umbreon doesn't get moonblast. It's a fairy type move, sure, but the description is, "borrowing the power of the moon, the user attacks the target." Umbreon's pokedex entry in Y says "when exposed to the moon's aura, the rings on its body glow faintly and it's filled with a mysterious power." It's even classified as the moonlight pokemon. Makes no sense to me. Heck it can even learn moonlight, but not moonblast?
Omg a mega aerodactyl using brave bird would hurt so fucking bad
Not really an injustice but I feel like Ambipon should get access to Drain Punch because of its tail or fists
also how is it useing power gem in the video if it cant learn it
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He just used a hacked/pokegen'd pokemon offline to show what it could have been like.