This $5 cable turns smartphone into OP-1 & OP-1 Field | GAS Therapy #60
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- This ain't no April Fools' Day joke. The cable is called Bidirectional Recording cable, the best music gear invented in recent 20 years, imo.
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There are tons of TRRS splitters on the market. The difference with this is the "mic" conductor has a resistor to attenuate the signal to work with a line level external device. Line - to - mic attenuators are also available. Usually marketed to photographers who need to feed a line level signal into their camera's mic input. Without the attenuator the powerful line level will overdrive and distort the mic input.
Damn, I use line out directly into camera mic input all the time, I just turn down the volume 😅
@@playpm Basically the same thing
And when you see people's video of a concert they did on their phone, it will be distorted because the simple mic on the phone is not designed for that.
You made my week. I'm ordering now. like you have been thinking about something like this for years.
Guerrilla recording techniques for the modern era. Glad to see the "fnck the expensive gear gatekeeping" attitude is still alive and well.
Just FYI a lot of the magic is the fact it's attenuating the signal passively. It's possible to build a cable (or even adapter) with the right routing and resistance to lower the input from Line (or headhone level, which is basically line level in any actual functional sense, fight me) down to mic level and avoid overdriving or damage.
You can also just turn the output down really, really low, but then you have the output's amp noise floor, so that's not desirable unless you're aiming for "hissy lofi." That one works better if you're using a headphone jack to go through instrument-level gear (aka guitar pedals), though the same problem is present to a lesser degree. No special equipment needed at all, just make sure it's a mono signal (or everything you want to run through it is panned to the left) since the TRS cable only makes contact with Tip and Sleeve for guitar gear. You can also easily make a summing TRS-TS cable if you want to be super proper.
This has to be an april fools gag... Who's smart phone has an aux input in 2024...
Thisss!!! 👍 😂😂😂
Who´s smart phone has an aux input in 2024?Every smart phone with a mic line in,though!!!! Every single Android phone has it!!!!How the crap do you think your voice gets to the other phone???? 🤣😂Unless you are using an iPhone,in that case I bet theres an expensive adapter to give you access to it!
The video is pretty straightforward and his explanation too!!Looks like you dont know much about cables and even less about smartphones lmao
@@guido69x Most nicer Androids don't have a 3.5mm port anymore either, and haven't for years.
My Unihertz Jelly Star bro, a perfect OP-Z screen as well ;>
You can always get a usbc to 3.5mm for cheap Ive had one for years so I can have a wired headset.
Your channel is a breath of fresh air from all the other music channels constantly pushing so much pricey, bulky stuff that you don't need
Nah, it's just a cheap man making clickbait videos.
Hi Michael, thanks for the heads up, could you please make a video showcasing your personal use cases for it
Yes yes, I'll make another one later.
But I was waiting for your demonstration 😭
Damn it, I was so excited to share the info that I forgot to shoot any b roll footage 😅 I'll make another one later.
@@playpmyeah unless this is an April fools joke I’m curious how u are using the phone as an op1.
OP1 = digital synth + sampler, and I also got digital synth and sampler on my smartphone, only thing missing is a port to sample external gears.
@@playpm Are you only using the sampler you showed at the end of the video? Or do you use an app that has a sequencer(s), sampler, w/effects and synths on it like the op1?
Oh that sampler I made is just a simple one, I combine mobile daw and koala sampler on my smartphone to get the most fun.
I probably own at least 6 different ways to record audio but this beats them all in simplicity. Ordered so I can record music onto my phone and post to social media. That workflow for $15 ❤
Tascam makes an audio interface that connects to the headphone jack on any smart phone. It’s not $5, but it’s pretty cheap. It allows you to switch between line, instrument and mic signals. It can even provide phantom power, but you need 2 AA batteries to use that feature. Every other feature can be used with no batteries.
Hope they do a USBC version of it. Meanwhile, maybe one more adapter could be used to make it work in USBC only smartphones
I actually didn't realize this existed and this is legit a game changer. I have old android tablets galore that are nearly useless at this point. They can now become dedicated koala machines or amiga style trackers that i can shove in my bag if I don't wanna carry around a bulkier sampler o.o
Thank you Boss! This just brought my old iPad back to use!
Already out of stock 😅. It'll sit in my save for later on Amazon until I see it back in stock
Salute him/her.
Im confused 🤔 hoping for a demo soon! 🤞
lol when you said you got depressed for a long time over the cable not working , I felt that. I have cables and dongles and adapters coming out of my ears lol 😂
Edit: and now I have one more to account for , order placed! 📦
Double edit: if this works on my OB-4 my prayers will have been answered 🤯
Does not work for OB-4 for clarity
I’d love to see a demo of this
Problem 1 using a TRS cable in a TRRS port.
I've been using a Joyo Momix Cab for a few weeks to do the same thing, around $15-20 and records in stereo. This is a very very clean and simple application however!
Thanks for the product info, I just checked it, and I think it's only in mono, just like my Apogee Jam 96k 😅
Thanks for the info, but yeah, it would really help to see it in action instead of hearing about it for 5 minutes without even see it plugged in.
I'll make another one to demo it, this is a big lesson I learnt this time, that a simple audio cable still needs b roll footages to show how it works 😂
@@playpm Come on, man. You should know this by now. We need to see HOW and WHY we should buy something and how it fits into a workflow. Otherwise you might as well just write a blog post. Just listening to someone talk about it on a video and not actually use it is kinda pointless.
already not available on Amazon
A simple mini jack cable presented as the end all solution? This has the smell of April's Fool all over it.
Jeez, I hope not. I jumped on this like you wouldn't believe. The idea of turning my old useless android e-reader tablets into portable octameds activated a visceral psychological response out of me 🤣
See the links in description. Also btw he lives in China, it is Apr. 2nd there.
@@GeorgeL909 If it's a tablet. Reader devices are designed only for e-books.
Brother you will be hearing thoughts and floating through the ceiling soon! Longhairs 4ever
What about the iRig? I've had a knock off version since like 2012, with audio in (mono though), monitor/mono and stereo out. 7$.
This one is also in mono. I used to use irig og, but I found it's noise floor is much too high, signal not clean enough, also if I use some distortion effects, the monitoring sound will also got feedback into the input, really weird.
Mini jack saved my life
Would it not be dead simple to make one of these yourself? Would it work to just cut an aux and connect the mic/output cables to each other?
I'm not an expert in electricity, so I couldn't make it, but I'm sure someone can achieve it.
@@playpm I also have just basic knowledge, but if I understand this concept right it should be super simple for anyone to do using just scissors and electric tape.
Yes, but it's only really easy if you've had plenty of experience putting cables like this together before. You'd also need 3-way screened cable which may be tricky to source in short lengths. I made a basic heaphone/mic adaptor many years ago for my iPad 4 using an old discarded TRRS to Phono video lead (you can find plenty of these usually in thrift/charity shops that sell electrical goods). In this case you'd need two cables, a resistor (start by using a 1k ohm resistor to attenuate the mic feed, then experiment from there), a good soldering iron, shrink tube, and something to hold each cable while resoldering. But is it worth going to all that grief when you can buy one already made for a tenner?
If you know how to solder, sure. But i can (almost) guarantee that this premade solution will be less janky and bulky than a big bundle of hand-soldered cables covered in heatshrink tubing
Maybe you already had the tools before the magic cable: recording device -> Y splitter -> mic input -> volume control dongle (as attenuator) -> playback device
Sadly I can't move further on recording devices, but if I can record things into my smartphone, then I can use sampler apps and mobile daws to actually start creating right in my hand.
@@playpm By recording device I meant the tablet/phone intended for recording, and just using the volume controller cable for attenuating the signal into the mic, so, it's just the split cable and the volume rocker cable you just showed up in the video ;)
Oh I didn't know this, I'll try this later, thanks for the hint!
I just tried the method you mentioned, it didn't work, the microphone port doesn't even accept regular trs jacks, my phone is still picking up sounds from its internal mic, not the adaptor.
Nice, i use an OTG with my little audio interface and works awesome, with Koala and Fl Studio Mobile. And with a usb hub you can connect a midi keyboard too .
Cheers, nice content.
Pd.: i havent trs on my smart phone neither , only usb C, and the regular DAC adaptors always cut frequencies in the monitoring output, and this really sucks.
I thought i was the only going thru this or thinking BOUT IT . Thank you sir ….waoooo.
And what make like the op1?
Showing unavailable on Amazon for couple of days.
nice video man , but i was wondering, could you make a vidoe on how toperform with it?
Just made another one called 'This cable is a revolution for instrument sampling' where I showed how it works.
Even if this was ever existed, the input would have being mono.
Making simple things complicated. thats why there is war
awesome thanks for sharing this cable! will use my actual op-1 and koala sampler on phone 😅
some temu seller is so confused right now
I got a normal aux to headphone and mic splitter like you show in the video as "not working". But for me it works fine. I plug a normal aux cable from my synthesizer into the mic hole and my phone can record it.
Link please!
@@playpm i cannot post any links. my comments just get deleted.
i can tell you the full amazon title (it's in german, the brand name is "millSO")
"MillSO Kopfhörer Adapter Splitter 3.5mm Audio Klinke Y Kabel (3.5mm Stereo Klinkenstecker auf 2X 3,5mm Buchse) für PC Gaming Headset (Nicht für Zwei Kopfhörer), PS4, Xbox One, Smartphones und Laptop "
full recording setup details:
aux cable to connect to the millso adapter is a "Cordial ES 0,5 WWR elements" cable (just a normal cheap TRS (2 rings on the jack) aux cable, got it for 3 euro), i connect my behringer jt4000 micro or my behringer pro vs mini with aux to the millso adapter, plug in my headphones. and plug the adapter into a xiaomi redmi note 7. to record my synths i use the J4T Multitrack recorder app (best app i've ever purchased, you can record multiple tracks and listen live to your external synth). it detects the adapter as "wired headphones" and it works really good.
for my full setup i also connect a akai mpk mini plus to my phone via a uni usb c hub (hub also powers my synths via usb c cables). To use the akai with the synths i use the "midi connector" app. all in all a really nice portable music setup.
@@playpm i can't. All of my comments just get deleted :(
@@playpm While i cannot give you the link because youtube deletes my comments i can describe it to you. The brand name is "millSO", the splitter is listed as a way to use gaming headsets or 3 pole (trs) lavalier mics with phones or ps4 controller jacks. the female ports are explicitly TRS. the male is TRRS with CTIA standard.
The most likely reason your cable doesn't work is because the female connentions are TRRS and not TRS. or your male connector has the wrong TRRS standard for your phone (i.e. OMTP or CTIA).
aaaaand it's sold out on Amazon now, dang...
What smartphone has a headphone jack anymore?
Already unavailable everywhere…. As the video is 22 hours young, the “item” is probably a … fantasy …? 😂
Isn't this just a crossover cable/inverter? Just using one cable instead of two adapters and two cables. Like inverting midi 3.5mm A to B
do they make a usb c to 3.5mm version??
I don't think so, but it's a super easy problem to solve comparing to what it already solved.
swear that I got 2 of those mic splitting cables and ever time was like this dos not work and just used an audio interface lol think I will stick with it too because my phone don't have an audio jack lol
I think Sony phones are the only phones with the ability to record stereo through the headphone jack
YOU GOT ME!
I put my mpx up for sale. Your videos have a lot to do with my reasons for doing that.
It is a mono signal you sample though.
This is great thanks
With this method You can sample in mono only.
Yes, and it's enough for me.
@@playpm Oh, ok
It makes your stereo source mono.
can you show it in action?
hahaha Amazon ALL SOLD OUT.
Do you have a discord or something similar, it would be interesting to get in contact with people that share the same passion :))
Isn’t this going to bring all your audio into mono, since the mic line is going to be mono?
Yes, but things I would sample, like guitar bass and synth are mostly in mono, so to me it's totally fine.
Meanwhile iPhone users:
Works with all kinds of adaptors too! As long as it has the 3.5mm trrs port.
@@playpmI’m starting to feel like I’m the only one with wired headphones at this point haha. Those adapters are everywhere!
Apple: "We'll remove the headphone jack so people will have to buy our costly adapter." Bluetooth? Apple will sell you a costly BT earplugs set.
Uploaded 10 minutes ago, already says product discontinued…
😂 try searching the product key word on every shopping platform, name in desc.
second link to amazon works
@@aikighostnot anymore they are alllll gone. Should have affiliate linked those bad boys . They flew off the shelves like hotcakes
Already out of stock 😵
This question is for the content creator. Are you saying that the item that is being shown can be used to have omnidirectional monitoring or recording into a smart device?. Smartphone or tablet?. How is this possible when most smartphones has only head phones inputs with that 1/4 inch fitting!. Some tablets have both headphones and mic ports...even PC's...but smartphones, I haven't seen one thus far!. Thanks!.🤔💯
Every phone (including feature phone), tablet and laptop has a TRRS port for audio out and mic in, this cable just hacked the mic tunnel and send audio into it, putting instrument line out into this mic tunnel, meaning you can sample directly with this cable into these smart devices.
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Already sold out😂😊😂
Nice talk. But show me please.
Later later, I'll make another one.
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Without demo i will consider this as a joke)
niiice
But, isn't the sampling input via that cable in mono only?
Is it?
Yes, it's in mono, for me it's fine, old records and most of my gears are all in mono.
@@LyroLife well, a TRRS consists of:
Tip = Left Output
Ring1 = Right Output
Ring2 = Mono microphone
Sleeve = Ground
So I'm very curious if there's something else going on here.
@@playpm Sure, as long as this cable fixes the impedance (which I believe is what defines the input type), then mono would work for a lot of things 🙂
Lol what about irig?
Been following you for a while but I think your approach is fundamentally is wrong. There are some reasons that some stuff are more expensive than other thigns. For example a car is always going to be more expensive than public transport. You have a bit of clickbaity approach going on like this; 'this thing is better than 10k worth x device'. I'm not defending companies overpicing their items but with this mentality, why buy a car where we can instead ride the bus? it's the same thing. Why buy clothes where instead we could wrap ourself with garbage out in the street, it's free?
Most of the time when you buy a 'designed' object, you do pay for it's design and the innovation and intuitive. OP1 is the clunkiest and most sorry device in 2024 to not have a basic function as undo. But I've never seen any other device (apart from PO's) that within 2-3 minutes, I can make a groove that actually sounds unique. That's why it's worth than just 5 dollar cable. Not saying it worths 1.6k, but still, comparing it to cable contraptions, adapters + ipad, iphone+ converter, mac mini + mic etc is a bit clickbaity. Of course my voice memo app records sounds. But it's nothing like ableton. Just because they both have CPU's in it, it doesn't essentially make both are the same devices.
Sorry, been holding this for a while. I think your attitude is amazing. But in my opinion you shouldn't rely on such clickbaity videos. Why not show a 10 minutes workflow videos with the tools you suggest instead of telling people what to do?
Basically I've been living in this wrong way for my entire life... I don't buy cars, seldom buying new clothes, but did buy a lot of POs and an OP1. Sorry if it bothered you, but it is me being me 😔
if youre broke just say that
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Clickbait rubbish
blah its already out of stock.