Why Your Twin Flame is Running

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  • @hmanfilms
    @hmanfilms ปีที่แล้ว +79

    BECAUSE THEY SCARED AF!!!!!! That fear is stronger than their feelings and attraction for you. They have no choice but to RUN! They are overwhelmed and not the most emotionally mature.
    you are meant to be a apart, and grow without them. They need to experience life and it’s challenges with you.
    Pour the love into yourself, ascend even more spiritually and emotionally, and watch the blessings come in. Remember. You may have been put in THEIR life to awaken them, just as much them for you.
    The pain will convert to a blessing and that’s why faith is so important, especially during separation. The quicker you accept and internalize this. The more you see that the whole point here is love. Love them past your own ego. Love them past their own.
    Keep spreading light y’all. Life is too short. Stop fighting reality. Accept it and move forward!

    • @Mrs.TJ516
      @Mrs.TJ516 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    • @raytacoles766
      @raytacoles766 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DOPE!!!!❤❤❤❤❤

  • @nunoalexandre6408
    @nunoalexandre6408 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    "The More you Ignore me the closer i get..." Morrisey..1990

    • @REINVENTION_7
      @REINVENTION_7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂 love him ❤

    • @varshaverma
      @varshaverma 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Omg I was listening to this song like an hour ago

  • @joshhance5733
    @joshhance5733 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Nailed it! Lol. My twin often told me that her decision making skills weren't very good. I said its because you let the ego run the show. Which also hurt her ego. Ha.

  • @junopierre2988
    @junopierre2988 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I honestly believe I’m feeling my twins depression because I honestly have no issue being single and alone. But I feel sad and heavy. I know it’s him not me

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, I talk about this especially in my video "Signs of Twin Flame Connection (during separation)"

    • @junopierre2988
      @junopierre2988 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wearethesamenergy oh I’m gonna check that out. Thank you

    • @junopierre2988
      @junopierre2988 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wearethesamenergy I was also going to say I noticed during the day it’s really bad but at night it goes away. He’s six hours ahead of me so it’s like when he sleeps I get a break from the sadness and anxiety. But as soon as morning comes it’s back 😔 I’m doing a spiritual bath tonight hoping it’ll calm things

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeap, makes sense! 🙏

    • @bond-rt4po
      @bond-rt4po 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ave exactly the same thing going on. I have come from being sad etc to feeling happy taking care of myself but mine counterpart is 6 hours behind. I wake up early hours every morning as if someone was trying to wake me up

  • @tiagociriaco7380
    @tiagociriaco7380 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    By chasing, the.. runner is being vampirised by chasers excess of energy.
    The chaser suffers from the excess of energy and wants to throw it on the runner.
    The chasers think that they have lots of love to give to the runner.
    All the runners want is to give away the excess of energy(unconscious behaviour) that creates, a kind of suffocation in them.
    I say to runner: get a cat or a dog. They will absorb you exess of heat energy..
    The chase is motivated by sense of pain, guilt shame. and fear, that is activated by the excess of energy in the chaser.
    They feel that if they give love they willcalm down these feelings.
    But the runner feels sucked and runs away.
    A proprer therapy can remove these feelings snd prevent unpleasant chasing

  • @HayashiToshi-sn5qw
    @HayashiToshi-sn5qw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Runners Runs Away With Truth....

  • @Tiilii1997
    @Tiilii1997 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I needed to hear this, especially "you can't control their speed of process or progress in the 3D, but you can control yours". The HS was definitely trying to teach me this, I realized this week. I love watching and re-watching your videos, because they always shift something within me or make me realize certain things. Your teachings really have been a gift on my journey & changed so much for me❤

  • @tish6008
    @tish6008 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Literally just broke up with my twin flame the beginning of Dec after a 4 year off and on relationship. I’m so glad I learned about twin flames because it’s really made me look deep inside. I know he was mirroring back to me some behavior that I’ve been “justifying” for decades that I really actually needed to address. Working on that now ❤
    Thank you for your insight, I’m glad I found your page.

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm so happy to hear about your willingness to be self-reflective! This is what a true TF journey is all about! All of my best and highest vibrations to you during your separation 🙏🙏💜

    • @Miswhitness0520
      @Miswhitness0520 ปีที่แล้ว

      same timeline for me

  • @youngk001
    @youngk001 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In my dynamic. i was always the runner. there were times where we switched places, and it became me trying to reach out to him, there were times where i started to feel shame for myself so i shut him out this one year. no matter where i was in my life I always received signs from the universe about him, next thing you know it was me running. continued to reject his love. this was a time where i couldn’t love myself so i couldn’t love nor accept his love either. I’m finally at a stage in my life where I’m learning to accept all things in life and that no matter where i go, he’s in my heart. he’s with me. ironic how Im the female twin but i have a very masculine aspect of me so much so that i think like one. where’s he is the male twin but has always been more feminine and empathetic growing up. and the mirroring with me his quirky habits I experienced used to freak me out that I almost couldn’t believe that this journey was for real. he’s older than me by 4 years which is insane. at least I know that we’ll always have each other’s backs as we walk this path. ☺️

  • @LizzyBobbySofie
    @LizzyBobbySofie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He still is saying that everything that happens to him is caused by others… while I am saying to him, you are doing things to yourself..( or let)

  • @soni-soni
    @soni-soni 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Totally 100% this is what happened to me. I love him dearly so I gave him my blessings for happiness and a fulling life. I did this without even knowing anything about twin flame. I kept asking God what was the lesson for me to learn by meeting him. I got my answer yesterday after I fully recovered from the break up. It was a relief to find out about twin flame. I will leave it to God or my destiny if we ever get to meet in person one day.

  • @bigt4331
    @bigt4331 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mine just left. This is all new to me. I realized this after realizing the chaser/ runner dynamic. Alone I am.

  • @soleanna7
    @soleanna7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Twin Flames runners are Fearful Avoidants while most chasers are Anxiously Attached/Anxious Preoccupied. Look up the two attachment styles and you'll see how uncanny this is.

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm very familiar with attachment styles

    • @soleanna7
      @soleanna7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wearethesamenergy Sorry I was trying to answer someone not meant to post this as a main comment. What do you think of my interpretation?

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I will actually be doing a video on it next year 🙂

  • @Thecadencecaliber
    @Thecadencecaliber 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I keep having this battle within myself because “logic” says that I want to believe in all this stuff as a way of holding on to someone who doesn’t really want me. I have a pattern of obsessing over people who are emotionally unavailable. But I can just feel it: deeply, completely, in my very BONES - that this is different. Even though he has said things and done things that are just absolutely atrocious, and there’s part of me that wants to hate him, I just know that all of this is happening for a reason. I knew I was home the moment I met him; it was like nothing I have ever experienced in my life. All nervousness and anxiety left me. I felt so safe, and so comfortable. Now that he’s gone, I can see through his feeble excuses for why he left as plain as day. They don’t make any sense. I can feel his panic and his fear, and I just have this deep sense that he needs to be without me in order to realize that he can never truly be without me again. And in myself, I feel this crazy shifting towards self-focus, personal development, and self-love. It’s like I can feel that I have to love myself as fiercely as I want to be loved, and that this has to be my priority now. What a wild ride.

    • @outlander234
      @outlander234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Do you know about BPD? How do we know its not just a trauma bond?

    • @yasminpinarsoy1715
      @yasminpinarsoy1715 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am exactly at the same stage and feelings

    • @d.asiatp
      @d.asiatp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amen to that! Love yourself how you want to be love, i’m at the same stage.

  • @Kerboripx
    @Kerboripx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    She read my message on snapchat but didnt say nun. Even tho she knows we are each other yin and yang! Knowing dang well she seen our souls fly towards each other and do this symbol ☯️

  • @mutze2509
    @mutze2509 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think I was the runner. I met my twin flame 20 years ago. All that time, the chaser was still on contact and I as the runner was looking and searching exactly all spiritual knowledge, and still running. Both were on depression at the same time without contact and without knowing we were going through that. After a karmic relationship with a huge ego degradation my twin flame came back and everything was clear.

  • @magunsimmons7762
    @magunsimmons7762 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beyond understanding! I needed to hear this. Thank you 🙏🏾

  • @Flufero23
    @Flufero23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am revisiting this video. This time last year my twin ran to another and wanted to keep me as a friend. Nope. I let him go without tears or drama. In the year since I have done hours each day of inner work in solitude. It has paid off. I am emerging from Hermit mode a better version of myself. I am enjoying family, friends, activities. I am more sociable. I am peaceful and calm. I still feel love for my twin, but it is not the intense, longing kind as before. I have plans for a great new life. I have no knowledge of my twin. If he returns, fine. If not, fine. I plan to return to my old part-time job. My twin works there. Since it is only for a few hours I hope to work the days he's off. If not I will treat him cordially, like any other co-worker. Although I know we're always connected in the 5D, I'm kind of tired of the whole twin flame thing. I will still continue inner work. I feel there is nothing new I need to learn about twin flames. Perhaps it is time to stop watching videos. I'm turning it over to the Divine, and going on with my great new life. No interest in a soulmate, either. Your videos and book were really helpful. Thanks. 💕🙏

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Congrats to you, and I'd say if you feel you're doing well, there is definitely no need to watch any more videos about Twin Flames! You can always pop back in for Ego Degradation videos or for a little Soul Family "tune up" if need be. Thank you for your support and all of my best and highest vibrations to you on your journey 🙏

  • @Kingof69ner
    @Kingof69ner 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your information helps a lot more than any of these do called "twin flame coaches" that only knows the basic about the journey but doesn't know what the journey actually means

  • @amberocc907
    @amberocc907 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "And so I love you because the entire universe conspired for us "

  • @tiagociriaco7380
    @tiagociriaco7380 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chase is a combination of excess of energy+ activation of guilt in the chaser.

  • @Progrssn
    @Progrssn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a good topic to help reset those lonely feelings that arise from the Wanting Mind that wants their attention and touch again.

  • @leticiatoraci9855
    @leticiatoraci9855 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tbh I don't think that I ever met a soulmate or twin flame, so I don't believe these relationships are to be found in this dimension. I have often forgiven people as if they were my twins, but that was all a huge mistake, nowadays I just hope they learn their lessons and become better people because I checked out of this twin soul/soulmate search and hope.

  • @chrisschwab7696
    @chrisschwab7696 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta catch that rabbit! Rabbit stepping out of the way so you can smash into the wall painted like a universe sign.

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All I can think about with this is Mario 64 and that bunny in the basement that you have to catch, yet sometimes you just end up in a painting

  • @trishstewart121
    @trishstewart121 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent explanation ❤❤❤

  • @indigolight9252
    @indigolight9252 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mines run off again after few days contact!! Omg getting over this’

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My best and highest vibrations to you during your separation 🙏

    • @Mrs.TJ516
      @Mrs.TJ516 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel your pain 😕

  • @justicemoody
    @justicemoody หลายเดือนก่อน

    This resonated perfectly. Thank you!

  • @onthafire420
    @onthafire420 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Gave me chills. Love this. You deserve way more subscribers❤️

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh, that's very sweet 🤗 I'm glad it resonated!

  • @moneauxje
    @moneauxje 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s funny she almost came back in April and admitted of her “fear”, “afraid to let walls down”, etc. I tried giving her space and time, but still reached out occasionally these past couple months and then got blocked and ghosted. I had hurt her initially in the past and then realized it was her, my mirror, my twin, my flame, and it hurt so bad, more than ever after she ran this time. How can she run to another when I know in my soul she’s my mirror and I’m hers. I’m letting go and I’m trying to be positive now. I’m trying to move on, but all I see is her.

  • @nunoalexandre6408
    @nunoalexandre6408 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    True!!!!!!!!! Only...Love..Remains...

  • @drewrites4613
    @drewrites4613 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some of the things you guys are mentioning is absolutely toxic behavior. I would not tolerate any one (even my TF) to talk to me or treat me any kind of way. The process is already tough as it is. I had a very quick separation from my TF. I wish we got to know each other more before she ran. I was her boss and we only went out once so I didnt get a chance to ask all the questions I wanted and just really get a feel for the real her outside of work. I cant imagine us treating each other in a toxic way. If she did something like that, rest assured I’d see to it that the separation be permanent.

  • @freshfacedb1981
    @freshfacedb1981 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks for the comfort:). wanted to tell you the day after that video about hearing alarms go off it happened several times the next day! fire alarm kept going off as i realized they were testing. firetruck passing me glaring. then another one later. come to think of it i do keep having glaring ambulances pass me or police catching someone etc lol. its really weird that when he emails me back now i know instantly before i see it and look and it was just sent. our cars keep passing. so many things. i appreciate your work!

  • @nunoalexandre6408
    @nunoalexandre6408 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jasonsy5976
    @jasonsy5976 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    (a) (Chaser ~ 'yin energy'): 'The Chaser has often been described as the awakened twin,'.... '(Though in reality both twins are most likely awakened,'.... '(Someone described the yang energy as awakened but not aware,'.... '(I take that to mean,'.... 'as not being aware of the deeper significance of the connection,'.... '(Something that I didn't hear about in this TH-cam channel,'.... 'is how the runner and chaser are opposite polarities,'.... 'or energetic polarities,'.... "(Well, it's inappropriate to talk about twin flames as energetic polarities if this was something that you don't really know to be true from your own experience,'.... '(I mean, everything that I talk about in my own twin flame experience are only what I personally experienced,'.... '(I was the so-called 'chasing energy' or in 'chasing mode' initially because I could see all the synchronicities,'.... 'and wanted to pursue and act on the synchronicities that I was being bombarded with on a constant and almost daily basis,'.... '(Then when I realized how unhealthy it was,'.... 'I immediately went into self-protective and self-preservation mode,'.... 'and did the exact opposite,'.... 'which was to pull away,'.... '(I was literally the one hiding out and running away,'.... '(I write about this here because the term 'chaser' doesn't apply to me,'.... 'Like you mentioned in this video,'.... 'the term 'chaser' doesn't define us,'.... '(In fact, since the separation,'.... 'I have not once reached out to my twin flame at all,'.... 'nor have any intentions of ever doing so,'.... '(That to me would be creepy and stalkish,'.... (In fact, what I did was to bless the twin flame in my thoughts,'.... 'and truly wished them a good life,'.... "(I just find the term chaser inappropriate because what if the original chaser twin is no longer chasing,'.... 'and has made a FIRM DECISION,'.... 'to never, ever go back to chasing mode,'.... '(I buy into the label 'yin energy' more than the label 'chaser' because I am no longer in that energetic chasing mode,'.... '(The yin energy is what the proliferation of twin flame TH-cam channels refer to as the Divine Feminine,' 💗💓

  • @morgandragomatz3582
    @morgandragomatz3582 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely logical explanation . Thank you xx

  • @elverdis
    @elverdis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you for the explanation ❤

  • @ytchi1
    @ytchi1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I understand all this twin flame scenarios now but when your twin get tricked due to lies rumors and gossip jealousy eveny and hate it makes everything ten times much harder to deal with

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You may want to watch my video "3D Differences Between Twin Flames"

  • @KaushalDudhe
    @KaushalDudhe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was just beautiful ❤

  • @veronicasarabia3821
    @veronicasarabia3821 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He said “ We are different, we have different culture background and different religion, we are from different countries and it won’t work” yet we have so much in common and we come from a traditional culture and we have same values . We never fight like I used to with my ex boyfriends . We get along so well and I always know when he is feeling sad and he knows when I feel something too . I can’t explain it but I had to block him . I am tired I wish him the best but I can’t force someone to be with me . He said “ I don’t need a relationship I will be alone , people change “ ok well I will look for someone else , he also told me to date someone else because he can’t give me what I want . So 😢 , I still have his friend on social media which reminds me him but hopefully in a few months I can’t forget about him. I also blocked him because he just moved 8 hours away from where I live and he was living on the other side of the country before . But I don’t want to see him again to just hear the same over and over again.

  • @robertfriss1440
    @robertfriss1440 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate your perspective…thank you.

  • @lucymildon7544
    @lucymildon7544 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fabulous explanation Thankyou 🎉❤❤❤😊😊

  • @magdalenawiko5158
    @magdalenawiko5158 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now I understand a little. for me, changes of consciousness took place "in the field" of the other body. he changes during separation. as if I don't care. apparently needs his company "for healing". it's unfair. I'd rather do the job myself. and I was very motivated to do so. but almost impossible. almost. And not. it's not so bad with us that we only have ego. Really.

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The last week of September I'll have a video up about how the Twins heal and I talk about this more

    • @magdalenawiko5158
      @magdalenawiko5158 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wearethesamenergy It will be very helpful. my life came full circle after this beautiful but difficult meeting. I only see minor changes.😔

  • @chanm7344
    @chanm7344 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this! Just subscribed ❤❤❤

  • @jelenagojkovic3026
    @jelenagojkovic3026 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Epic explaination!!!❤

  • @gaganjob4all592
    @gaganjob4all592 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Because they want to keep their options open 🎉😅

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That would be a Karmic, not a Twin Flame

  • @klausvonkeast
    @klausvonkeast ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12 years apart we finally reunite and now or in separation.

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  ปีที่แล้ว

      💜🙏

    • @klausvonkeast
      @klausvonkeast ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wearethesamenergy
      Its brutal
      No calls allowed

    • @klausvonkeast
      @klausvonkeast ปีที่แล้ว

      Just said after an intense relationship abruptly dosnt want a committed relationship a week after giving me her ring sizes

  • @akvalandija
    @akvalandija หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this wonderful video/advice on my TF journey. Also loving the lipstick that you are wearing. Could you perhaps share the number/ brand of it please? ❤

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think that one is by VIOLETTE_FR and is their petal bouche 🙂 I'm glad the videos are resonating!

  • @lacemaker72
    @lacemaker72 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you!

  • @ashmartians123
    @ashmartians123 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    lol Yupp I’m the chaser

    • @Librocubicularist1
      @Librocubicularist1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      me too lol He ran like a psycho

    • @freshfacedb1981
      @freshfacedb1981 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes gurls yes! he emailed me back. ran into him w the gf he said he told her theyll never ger married after not seeing him in 45 years and he did not acknowledge me presence and they left the event in a hurry, then he actually emailed me the next day after i was like wow i thought we were friends! and didnt EVEN mention our chance meeting. we BOTH are behaving 3d psycho but now i told him time to see what life is like without me. i feel like im understanding what she is teaching even though ive been spiritual for years. i practice raising my vibration and feel great about my life if it werent for that massive thorn in my side - but alchemizing that energy into joy not pain. im actually proud of my incarnation. its been a longggggg trip ladies! im 59….knew him when we were in hs but never dated….3 years ago it hit me like a ton of bricks. i was like WHAT? i randonly asked him to talk to my daughter seeking a job in his industry snd he was on speaker and i walked past her and said something like excuse me honey and he heard my voice and i heard his and my daughter even said--that was weird. he got all flustered suddenly. i was like - he likes me. but he ran then and i didnt chase except 2 emails then nothing for almost 3 years. i was in another city and beat stage 4 cancer - another spiritual trip - moved back and contacted him in jan. has kept me on a thread for 6 months so i finally cut it off. i feels good most of the time. like lets shelf this, hes coming back i know, so go be happy as if hes not a factor. but yes. LOVE HIM SO MUCH AND TOLD HIM - I will always love you
      unconditionally. i think the gf found out. thanks for letting me rant!

  • @cheryl23224
    @cheryl23224 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My twin flame runner has a depression..i had the depression too but something changed in me after the ego degradation . i feel like i got better.

  • @mariai.a.2793
    @mariai.a.2793 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THANK YOU!😍🤗

  • @helenkyriacou3442
    @helenkyriacou3442 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for your time and energy.. ❤️💗💙

  • @mariavanwyk483
    @mariavanwyk483 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That then mean it is not a good thing to have a twin.

  • @freshfacedb1981
    @freshfacedb1981 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    btw i love your style!

  • @ilikeacoustic28
    @ilikeacoustic28 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great video!! Would you consider doing a video about the differences in lesson-learning you briefly mention here between chaser and runner? Specially in regards to timing. I (as a "chaser") have definitely learned lots during separation, but I wonder: why does the runner decide to run away from the connection and union with their TF if they supposedly learned their lessons while in union? Shouldn't the runner have stayed? There have to be some major lessons and shifts happening for the runner while separated....right?

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, I will clarify this more in another video! 🙏

  • @francoisgouws7288
    @francoisgouws7288 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sometimes you have to accept that a person just don't want to be with you
    All of this is just a band aid!

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I definitely agree that sometimes you have to accept the person doesn't want to be with you. True Twin Flames are rare and not everyone has them. You're speaking about Karmics and Soulmates

  • @jacquirathner2806
    @jacquirathner2806 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Helpful salve & understanding… now to me

  • @NatashaClarke-l1n
    @NatashaClarke-l1n 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In my twin flame relationship, I see myself as the runner at times and the chaser at others… is this possible?

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, that would be more of a Karmic relationship

  • @yasminpinarsoy1715
    @yasminpinarsoy1715 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    İt is so Hard to understand why they run..:) still can not grap it ..:)
    Such a wonderful love we feel can transform the World
    They are so scared of us /Love and how boring their Life is 😊

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My book explains it in great detail

  • @tiagociriaco7380
    @tiagociriaco7380 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The guilt feeling. Pain, fear and shame are due to the "Original sin" oral sex(69).
    Latest discovery.
    These low frequency feelings can be easily discarded with mantal therapy, and xalm down the chaser

  • @yhwhtlc9217
    @yhwhtlc9217 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I came to self love thirty one years ago....separation was thirty four years ago.....I've learned enough during all those decades, when will it end?......did it end when we briefly saw each other last Sept?,, in passing no contact?...is that all there is to it?

  • @TheHouseOfduToit6688
    @TheHouseOfduToit6688 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think I'm the runner I found my twin turned around and jumped head first in to a karmic relationship. But don't think she knows we are tf

  • @agarwalankit123
    @agarwalankit123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for the info! Very helpful! I met my TF 2-3 times and we felt an instant connection and I got the signs too. Now she has stopped responding and I don't know the reason. I have no clue if she's interested. I like to move on but it's not easy for me. Will she come back? Sorry if that's a stupid question. Please share your thoughts @WeAreTheSame. Thanks!

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your TF is already with you. Just because you're not together on the 3D plane doesn't mean you're not together.

    • @agarwalankit123
      @agarwalankit123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wearethesamenergy Thanks for getting back. I really appreciate it! What can I do to bring her back? My meeting with her has been at a 'formal' level and I can't be calling/ texting her.

  • @garyparkin2143
    @garyparkin2143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She’s running away from me I thought it was me but I’ve seen some twin flame videos and there say it’s them there running away. I keep seeing word union every where I go and I keep seeing 11:11
    First time she ghosted me or run I used to cry every night I felt part of me had gone
    But I feel her emotions physically and mentally like if she’s hurting mentally my right side of my heart hurts for few seconds or if she’s cries I feel tears coming down my face

  • @joannaevans8247
    @joannaevans8247 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My runner is from India and spiritual. I try and reach out to keep the connection and he always comes back when I am in alignment! But I am finding it hard to stay there .

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you sure he's not a Soul Tribe member?

  • @IshaaSuri
    @IshaaSuri 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey alexx!! Have been trying to understand the concept of tf and this was the most authentic reviewed channel and rightly so… I am a little confused, what i wanted to ask was you mentioned if they run and come back its karmic or soulmate + karmic in a comment here but dont runners in tf also do that i mean i don’t understand? And also i wanted to ask can the runner say something like they just dont feel the emotional attraction and connection to turn this on and off thing in a relationship even after years and say that they are attracted to you like you as a person but cant be in a relationship cause i dont know maybe fear but more that they consider someone else is better suited and that we dont have that connection..but still wants to keep me around as a friend but cause i cant be just friends settles for maybe fwb but isnt that more convenient and karmic? Would a true tf runner actually say that even though he was very adamant about always ending it and sounded so calm and believable that this time I believed its never happening again and he isnt coming back.. and i am like a stubborn child who doesn’t want anyone else but him and maybe to begin with he is right and all that he said is true and he believes in it and i am just having troubles with accepting the rejection maybe he is not the tf runner cause they have fear and he so clearly and calmly told me that he doesn’t see that kind of connection even after so long and i mean could you tell me what this is? I have been trying to figure out i just dont know as i dont want to be stuck in something not good just because i am scared to lose him and term it as a tf relationship when it could be something bad for me… a part of me is also very scared we may never meet again and that he was very clear with what he said and even though he didn’t want it he still suggested selfishly wanting to keep me around but not fight for me and be okay to lose me and also go to someone else and all this makes me think what even is this?? Can you help pls..also idk if i am healing or just obsessing and its been so long and if i am still obsessed and nor healed ans he comes back maybe thats just to see the lesson and nothing else which is why he comes back and then cant be a tf?

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You said so yourself, in this comment, multiple times, that he was very clear and has told you over and over that he doesn't feel that connection with you. You may want to watch my video "Twin Flame as a Tool of Manipulation."

    • @IshaaSuri
      @IshaaSuri 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wearethesamenergy i realise that and i have seen that video as well but does it clearly tell me that he isnt my twin flame and never can be back? And isnt it something the runner would say? Or would they always say something like a out of fear thing idk…and so so this makes him not my tf… Maybe thats hard for me to accept but yeah…i mean can the runner say something like this truly?

  • @stephenanthonythomas3533
    @stephenanthonythomas3533 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You

  • @noturbo
    @noturbo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    she won't even talk to me-me healing

  • @quinnphelps5497
    @quinnphelps5497 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for all the twin flame info. I am new to this concept. I would like to know your thoughts on identifying what needs to be healed. Is it my reaction to my twin that I need to analyze to identify what still needs healing? Any best practices for healing? Love your work!

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wednesday I will put out a video for 5 ways of practicing self-love, and in it there are ways to identify what needs to be healed. If you still have questions after that, let me know and I will do a video specifically on it! I'm glad the video resonated, and all my highest vibrations to you on your TF journey! 🙏

  • @Samja13
    @Samja13 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That higher self is really funny.

  • @LolaEmpressofLove
    @LolaEmpressofLove ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so very much for this information in this message.
    It is a life saver!
    Particularly since I have been experiencing these things and now I know that I am not crazy 🤪 🤪 , but they're totally real.
    I have never felt more complete until I met my Twin Flame 🔥.
    I had never heard the term
    Twin Flame 🔥 prior to our connection or perhaps I never paid any attention to the term.
    I do know that something happened to me upon meeting him again, in a chance meeting.
    Although, we grew up in the same neighborhood and went to the same elementary school.
    He said he doesn't remember me , he said "because if I would have known you...we would've had 15 babies by now".
    I never thought of him as a love interest at all back then...I can't explain or believe how I have fallen in love with this dude...he is everything to me .
    From day one it felt like we were meant to be, and belong together as one.
    I feel like our love is like something out of this world, like from another galaxy.
    I told him that he makes me feel like Cinderella.
    Then he did the unthinkable...he started to distance himself from me.
    When I asked him what was the problem with him.
    He said a friend of his that he wanted to meet me; refused to do so, because his friend said that I was the devil , since I am a tarot cards reader and spiritual advisor.
    His friend's response crushed him, too bad, too sad.
    Needless to say we are in separation and have been for a while now, and to add to other issues , he became more and more rude in his behavior towards me and I decided to put an end to it.
    So, that's another reason why we're not talking...it hurts my heart ♥!
    Everyday all throughout the days and nights I pray constantly and continually for him as well as for myself.
    Everytime I get a thought in my head that makes me feel any way other than, happy and full of joy unspeakable and full of glory towards him...I just say bless him and then I bless myself too, because he really did hurt me...but it seems like the God in me keeps healing my heart ♥, mind, body, and soul for the higher good of all, for greatness!
    It feels weird but I like it though.
    Thanks for this platform for me to share my feelings.

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh man, definitely sounds like a twin! I can guarantee you your TF doesn't give a shit what his friend said; he's using it to justify to himself why he's running. My highest vibrations to you during your separation 🙏🙏

  • @florptytoo
    @florptytoo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just refuse to believe it. Its too freaking absurd. Even though everything lines up, it's just too stupid to believe. I hate the whole thing. Stupid. 😖

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Okay, don't believe it. You have every right not to 🙂

  • @randusapplecorn7277
    @randusapplecorn7277 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    im the runner, basically i wasnt healed from the most recent dumpster fire of an entanglement i got myself into
    she read all about how traumatized i am in my blog, how insanely beautiful i think she is
    how crazy everything was making me, including the whole twin flame deal itself
    that didnt stop her from:
    rubbing people in my face to make me jealous, but it only made me sad
    treating me like crap when i tried talking to her/giving her things i made with so much love just for her
    using witchcrat to mess up my life
    leaving weird things on the doorsteps of my apartment building
    PUTTING NAILS IN MY TIRES
    stalking my daughter on tiktok and inevitably making her feel weird enough to block her
    and driving me so crazy that i ended up quitting the job i actually enjoyed where we both worked because i was completely losing my mind and could no longer manifest in her physical reality without suffering beyond all things sane
    i still cry when i think about her at least a dozen times/day
    and please god let us one day get married
    ive also written a bunch of songs about her and how she is the most beautiful lady in the whole entire universe,
    but cut me some slack dang it

  • @Honeybee333_3
    @Honeybee333_3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you touch on this? You say We cannot control their speed of progress or process in the 3D. Yet so many coaches say their progress is a direct reflection of your inner union. If were going on that then the quicker i reach union the quicker their ego degradation happens so i do play a direct role...So, do we play a role in their process or not?

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is a difference between 3D and 5D. If you're healing in the 5D, the Twin has no choice but to mirror. But anything you do in the 3D is done so with the Ego, and the Ego does not have any role over the Twin.

  • @mearss
    @mearss 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it always the runner that ends separation?
    I’ve been separated from my twin for over 4 years. I’ve gone through intense ego degradation, and have reached a level of equanimity on this journey (and life in general) that i’m “okay” with whatever happens and don’t even expect much anymore since it feels like all outcomes are equal.
    However, I’m currently travelling within the same country as my twin and feel a nagging urge to reach out to him. I am resisting because I tell myself it’s my ego trying to take control. Also because truthfully, for 4 years I’ve wanted the experience of him reaching out to me after all these years. I realised that even me expecting him to reach out at some point is a sneaky way that my ego creates separation. On the other hand, me reaching out to him would absolutely kill my pride and would be oh so unromantic. And I’m wondering if that’s exactly what is needed lol

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, pride, unromantic, expectations...they're all Symptom Karmic lessons, right? It sounds more like youve reached detachment rather than non-attachment. 💜 If you want to reach out to them while you're in their area, then do it! 🙏

    • @mearss
      @mearss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wearethesamenergy Alexx, your book and videos were always valuable and insightful, but I had no freaking IDEA the level of resonance there would be after this reunion after 4 years of separation. Man oh man. Everything you describe in your videos is exactly what happened, down to a T.
      You were right about detachment, and I could sense that intuitively, that I would shed more layers by reaching out and therefore destroying the storylines I was still attached to (i.e him initiating contact and not me)
      Reaching out and meeting up ended up being a crucial step on the journey for both parties. For me, I literally lost more layers, it was brutally painful, but I felt very relieved after, and more ‘presence’ seeped in. And I could sense where he was in terms of his ego degradation, since I could recognise his energetic state as being that of where I had been some years ago. So we met again, and I held space for him, since it was clear to me what benefit he could have from our interaction, with absolutely no personal agenda. Later he told me that the timing of our encounter was very synchronous with an intuition he had had his entire life about this specific year. After we parted, I could sense in him the shift in energy, i.e creativity bursting out of him through poetry, stories etc, what I had already experienced after our first separation. It’s like being in an energy tag-team!! And very spooky how precise it is.

    • @mearss
      @mearss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was also able to see with breathtaking clarity how my shifts/ ‘healing’ had affected him too, during separation. It was frustrating at first because he was not even conscious of this at all, nor did he remember how different his life situation and relationships were during our first encounter. Eventually, even that desire of ‘wanting him to know’ fell away

  • @goddessfreya13
    @goddessfreya13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! This is the best explanation I have had of this dynamic so far. Ironically, I saw this five years ago and walked away (we weren't together as he was in a relationship with someone else and he was half running already then). But then I started feeling him thinking of me, and I came across some tarot readings on TH-cam and it all activated the "chaser" mode I guess. I had a few personal readings confirming a lot of things about our connection. But the Twin Flame concept wasn't mentioned, so I wasn't aware of the dynamic. Lately, I was told that he had been thinking about contacting me all this time, but he still isn't willing to let go of these patterns. It's been five years since we saw each other. I know now that even though he has always listened to me, he has to find his own way without any help from me. I, on the other hand am healing the trauma that kept me attracting unavailable men and staying alone … So I'm opening up to other possibilities, even though it's not easy because it feels like closing a door. If he comes back later and I'm with someone else that would be really difficult.

  • @magisterofsteam7880
    @magisterofsteam7880 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question. Might a runner in separation act like a totally different person than they were before?

  • @BarbaraSakeni
    @BarbaraSakeni หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am the TF chaser but after some time I stopped chaser him ....and it now turning out like am having this feeling like i don't want him anymore mostly when I see him . .... Is it normal to feel like that??? Cause am confused 🤔

  • @TheBeccasol1
    @TheBeccasol1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like I'm experiencing myself as the runner now but in the past (bn 2015 and 2019) I was the chaser... I'm feeling very confused about the polarities we hold bc we are a same sex couple ... have you come across this kind of situation?
    🕉

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's very possible that you could've switched roles between Runner & Chaser. However, please remember that polarity/duality is NOT REAL and only constructed within the Ego. Saying that you don't believe your polarities are conducive towards the 3D plane is actually a very important revelation, and I would say to watch my video "Twin Flame Separation (an important message)." It may help a bit. 🙏🙏

    • @TheBeccasol1
      @TheBeccasol1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wearethesamenergy thank you for your quick response!! 🙏🏾🤍
      Thank you for your short but value packed videos! 🫶🏽🕉

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for this message! I am acutely aware of the biological responses in the nervous system, but I had never heard of the Polyvagal Theory, and I just read a bunch about it. You two seem to be triggered a lot by one another (normal for TFs), but you in particular not being able to be around her for long stints of time signifies to me that you are definitely The Runner (in this dualistic perceived "reality" of ours). Amazing that you're open enough and willing to do the work. I'm hoping for you that it will lead to an absolutely beautiful Ego Degradation! Also, just so you know, I am working on launching my website in which I will be offering Soul Family coaching/guidance if you're interested 🙂

  • @kurtdewhurst4883
    @kurtdewhurst4883 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a bit of a complex question... Is it correct to say that every major change in the 5D is also a manifested change in the 3D? Aka 'Manifestation'... Thus, is it sometimes the case that the impetus for the Runner to stop 'Running' is bc of a change in the 3D? IOW, the Chaser heals the 5D and it manifests as a change in the 3D and then the Runner stops running bc the 3D they now experience makes them feel safe to come closer or open up, etc...

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's not "correct" nor "incorrect." This can be the case sometimes and not other times. Sometimes growth in the 5D is enough to change 3D practices, and sometimes learning Symptom Karmic lessons on the 3D changes 3D practices.

    • @kurtdewhurst4883
      @kurtdewhurst4883 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wearethesamenergy That makes sense. Thanks for explaining

  • @tanyavrismo8879
    @tanyavrismo8879 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do Twin flames cheat on each other?

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My video "What is a Third Party Relationship?"

  • @Tom-cp6yj
    @Tom-cp6yj 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What's the point of any of it if you can't be together in the end anyway?

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "The Purpose of Twin Flames" video

  • @Arpja
    @Arpja 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there a certain age you meet your twin?

  • @Thesakshiguptaa
    @Thesakshiguptaa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have one question….. please reply it’s very important.. if both of them are runners? Than what will happen?

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't understand your question; if both of who are runners?

  • @lizzymartins6188
    @lizzymartins6188 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Someone asked me to call me and then hung up on me. Is this a twin flame 🔥 that runs?

  • @missmedieval
    @missmedieval หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will the runner reject the attempt from the chaser to get closure on the connection?

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm going to add this to my list of videos

    • @missmedieval
      @missmedieval หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you... ❤

  • @dithya_Girlwithnature
    @dithya_Girlwithnature 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He loves me so much he adore me so much at the same time he also said that I an satan😂 Even I felt the same fa me, he might be an satan 😅

  • @lucyrodriguez3145
    @lucyrodriguez3145 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellence Reading❤

  • @seanperry4734
    @seanperry4734 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im sorry, i made a distasteful joke on another video you made, but well, how do i put this.... I met my twin, I know it. I knew it years ago, I just stood on the outskirts, im a psychic empath, and libra sun pisces moon. I met her 11 years ago, and havent been with anyone since, not even a hug, I knew it immediately....well... i found out my twin is a flat out ho o.o, much like the teenage me, i was that way until i met her so i don't judge...much. But she has always terrified me. I finally said something, and sure enough she likes me two, so we plan on dating and all that, however. I can just tell, she still got attachments, and still sleeping with other guys, all while flirting with me, talking about lovey stuff, and trying to get me in bed o.0. But at the same time, I know I scare her, idk y, I mean, im a totally nice and romantic person. And for years I always just happened to be there when she needed someone the most, for help, in many ways, and emotional support, without even trying, I literally just happened to be there. And when we got even just a little bit closer, she would run. She's been with half the guys in the neighborhood, literally, yet, when it comes to me, she says she's scared to be hurt, but I know she really just afraid of herself, I can tell she's not ready. I swear she's like my female clone. While, for the first time in my life, I am willing to take on any baggage, any challenge, I never felt this way about anyone, its nerve wrecking. If I met any other woman like her, I just move right on, like hell...to the no. Yet, the moment she told me she liked me alot 2. I hopped right up and transformed my life, I started making myself better, for me. however, I keep finding myself going, nope, fuck that. She'd like, ignore me for an entire 2 days, only to find out she's been with someone else, going wild, we have reached our 30s. And everytime I pull away, even if just energetically, she comes back spewing all this lovey dovey shit. for example, yesterday, I refused to call or text her all day, I was done. She texted me at 3 am, for the first time ever, and said, I just had to let you know how much I love you, want you etc... Today, she ignored me all day aside from saying someone made her mad. Turned out, this person was a guy who is in love with her, who been trying to sabotage us for weeks. As we speak, she's spending a night with him at a hotel, and she doesn't even know that his brother is a friend of mind, she don't know that I know thats why she ignoring me. Sadly he's toxic and a methhead. And so, I turned my phone off... I made a decision, im not talking to her, for atleast a week....we have a date next sunday. I wont answer anything she says until sunday... lol lets see how that plays how. because she is literally sleeping with another guy as I type this, and im not going out like that. I'm done with her for a while. She ended up that way due to outside influence, terrible parents, friends, family, and relationships, constant stress, and death, I lost 27 loved ones, 12 in one year, I lost my brother, shortly after she lost her sister. She took these things much the same as me, but my response was depression, liquor, and going hermit mode, her reaction was drugs, sex with random people, going to jail, at the same time as me lol, and mental withdrawal. I withdrew emotionally. So she went searching for whatever tf, emotionally, while I searched mentally, I learned everything about everything while refusing to date or touch anyone, even told my modeling agency to fuck off, meanwhile she refused to let anyone get to know her accept for the people she turned into fuck buddies, and now one of those fuck buddies is trying to get in between us as soon as he saw we were getting closer. I think...Im just gonna run... I mean, who says I need my twin, what I need is peace, love, self love, and to not be putting up with shallow wishy washy shit. But everytime I make that decision, she goes all in on me... I turned my phone off.. I bet any money, I will wake up to a bunch of messages, and she's never messaged me a bunch of times. And not because I turned my phone off and didnt answer her all day, but because she seems to know everytime I make that decision before I even act on it. As if a ghost is telling her, girl you better go get your man. I have never been willing to put up with the shit she makes me feel, all of it, before we even got together.

  • @gaialight408
    @gaialight408 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤💫💯❤‍🔥

  • @madhavipawar580
    @madhavipawar580 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great

  • @sarangasonvane6303
    @sarangasonvane6303 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do they get awakened?

  • @halfwaytreez7408
    @halfwaytreez7408 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What happened if i just give up and move on..

    • @sharongrenier1667
      @sharongrenier1667 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not gonna be possible if it is a TF

    • @halfwaytreez7408
      @halfwaytreez7408 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sharongrenier1667 i don’t know if she is or not it’s just that i never experienced anything like this before… the weird similarities, among other things i can’t explain… she pursued me for months then i gave in and she ran …

    • @sharongrenier1667
      @sharongrenier1667 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@halfwaytreez7408 😞

  • @LightersWorld
    @LightersWorld 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @Pinkwellow
    @Pinkwellow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My fat ego is scared🤪

  • @seanperry4734
    @seanperry4734 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    roar -.-

  • @lambthatisdove
    @lambthatisdove 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    vid had 777 likes :)

  • @GrimeyCrunchdog
    @GrimeyCrunchdog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *I thought I heard it all*
    Nope 😑
    I'm the dumbass runner. Jesus! Nooooooooooo🥵

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or you're in a different type of relationship than Twin

  • @Sv_vic
    @Sv_vic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I met her about 10 years ago , both in bad shape . I was just out of a long-term relationship after she cheated . The runner was in a horrible relationship . It was electric from the moment we met , she continues to run , but always comes back . I am done with being pushed away now that I understand it . Unsure what the outcome will be .

    • @wearethesamenergy
      @wearethesamenergy  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If she's running then coming back, that's a Karmic or Soulmate + Karmic

    • @Sv_vic
      @Sv_vic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wearethesamenergy been seeing 1111 and 1414 everywhere , even the movies, music , or streaming , somehow is relatable to our current situation. I literally walked into a movie theater , picked a randok movie, the two main protagonists had a similar relationship, I can't escape it .

  • @muncangel5993
    @muncangel5993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BS!!!