FINALLY! I have been looking for days for a detailed video of where the mounts are all installed to adjust properly. I keep finding tutorials that are just like, "put it on and ride" with no explanation at all on how to really mount it. Thank you so much man.
Your welcome. The Suzuki Savage is a fun bike, the single develops lots of torque. A sidecar adds a lot of drag though, my 650 Yamaha V-Star would barely do 60 mph with the sidecar and passenger.
before istart i need to finnish working on my Jeep the i need to look at the bike I'm thinking of buying a English Wheel and a bead roller and building the body for the side car my self buying the tools and the sheet metal looks like it would be cheaper than just buying a side car and modifying it.
Thanks G. I thought the same as I was suggested this by a stock car designer/fabricator. If you have the parts, do a bench mock-up. You will find zero lateral play. I used very heavy Heim fittings. I can look up the size if needed......
Hi Karen, the tubing under the bike is 1" with a .125 wall. The brackets were made out of .250 mild steel plate. Every installation is unique, a good source of help is a certified welder/fabricator. If you can post a picture or send a PM I may be able to offer you some advice. It will turn out to be a challenge, but don't give up. More power to you!
Excellent video chum. I'm making one right now myself and could use any tips you might have. Grew up in a machine shop and can weld anything from a broken heart to a guilty conscience. lol. 1994 6 cylinder Kawai. I would be grateful for help with the frame on the bike.
Hi Judge TK. Sorry to be answering 9 months late. I used the mounts that came with the Inder sidecar kit. Lots of modifying, but you're handy with welding, you shouldn't have any trouble. Triangulate the mounts to the Kawi frame. I think your bike is very heavy, so use schedule 80 tubing as a suggestion. Probably hold off in anything permanent on the bike frame, as you may not like riding with a sidecar.......
I am sorry to say that the structure is not as strong as one requires. Basically there are three in line hinges and the only non "hinged" joint is the front lower p art and I cannot imagine that that horizontal threaded rod will hold a load at the other three basically hinged joints. .
Excellent video, you should of been a professor, you speak perfectly, not to fast and not to slow. I have a Kawaskai 1700 and starting to build my sidecar, did you buy the brackets or did the welder fabricate them and where did you get your tire from, beautiful, you are a great help, Thank you, Robert
Hi Dr.Sarhan, the sidecar was originally an Inder product from India. I had it mounted to a Kawasaki XS650. The wheel, suspension, and frame were very light duty, suitable for a smaller bike. I fabricated the new frame myself, with advice from a professional racecar builder for the suspension mounting. The mounting struts were reused from the Inder frame. They were mounted in a triangular layout for strength. The axle spindle and wheel are replacement trailer parts. The spring/shock assembly came from a medium size motorcycle. Doctor, I built this almost ten years ago, not knowing there would be so much interest in my project. I would have kept notes on parts, measurements, and suppliers. It did ride well with a 260 pound passenger. If I had another sidecar body, I would build another with improvements on the frame design and appearance. I was a lot of fun! PS I left you a note on one of your videos. Art
Thanks for your concern. No flexing with the side car frame after completion. I regularly carried a 250 pound passenger.. I sold the side car to a gentleman who mounted it on a Harley FL touring bike. If it was going to break, that would have done it. Never happened.....
Does the side car lean when you lean or is the sidecar rigid like most side cars ? Most side cars when you turn left lift the sidecar up and right turn you have to turn right . hard at best and you to relearn to drive it . I have only seen once a British bike that had the side wheel leaned in unison with the front tire , better control at high speed .
Very American, pleaae no hate it is not a political statement it is the American philosophy. Looks great not my style but good job, thanks for posting.
The frame under us bike, what is the size of pipe? The mounting brackets where did you get? I'm trying to make a trike out of a trailer, utility trike I call it. I'm trying to figure out what is the best way to mount it to the bike. I'm disabled female and trying to do it all myself.
If you look on TH-cam n put in supertrike, it will show a bike with this setup. I've tried to get up with the owner but no responce. So I'm trying it. I've got the trailer cut out and axles welded, yes I'm doing the welding but I have a friend that is making sure its done right. My issue is trying to figure out how to attach. Any suggestion would be a great help! Thanks for or time.
I'm trying to do the same thing to my Intruder 1400. Anyway you could help me out with what all you needed/used? Also what you mounted it to on the bike. And if you have the measurements or drawing that would be awesome! I'm wanting to have it done this winter so my daughter can ride with me next year. Let me know and I'll shoot you my email. Thank you!
Hi, I wish I could help you more. I didn't use drawings, it fell into place as I began assembly. I lost track of the sidecar after I sold it. The new owner attached it to his full dress Harley to ride his 150 pound dog in it..... Good luck with your project. It's good for family fun, young and old love riding in a sidecar!
Hi Chris, I understand your concern. It was my first time designing a sidecar frame. If I were to do it again, I would make changes in the triangulation of the mounts. It rode very well for the passenger, who happened to be 200+ pounds. I sold the bike and then the sidecar. The buyer mounted it to a Harley Road King. His passenger was a 150 dog! No issues.... Unfortunately, I don't think I have pictures of the body mounted on the frame...Queasyrider
Thank you for your concern. The mounting system was consistent with the mount supplied with the sidecar kit. If I was to do it again, certain points would be modified. This was the first time effort. In reality, it never showed any weakness, carrying a large person. I sold the sidecar to a gentleman who installed it on a large Harley touring model and reported that there weren't any issues. With the suspension I created, it handled and rode very well. Queasyrider
Margaret P. Clarke It's been 3-4 years. About $3500-4000. It took a month, lots of time designing, redesigning. I did all work except paint. Good luck.
Need a brake on the the sidecar , it a. lot of weight to stop that setup ! I know I have no brake on the sidecar, in a emermercy ,it lock up the rear wheel !
FINALLY! I have been looking for days for a detailed video of where the mounts are all installed to adjust properly. I keep finding tutorials that are just like, "put it on and ride" with no explanation at all on how to really mount it. Thank you so much man.
I had the 800cc version of that bike, good choice! Looks awesome, I have thought about this for work supplies and my dog!
thanks for showing the frame I am thinking of making a side car for my 650 Savage and seeing your frame helped
Your welcome. The Suzuki Savage is a fun bike, the single develops lots of torque. A sidecar adds a lot of drag though, my 650 Yamaha V-Star would barely do 60 mph with the sidecar and passenger.
before istart i need to finnish working on my Jeep the i need to look at the bike I'm thinking of buying a English Wheel and a bead roller and building the body for the side car my self buying the tools and the sheet metal looks like it would be cheaper than just buying a side car and modifying it.
Graat motorcycle, as well as the great Sidecar, thank you for sharing
I am gonna make my own sidecar and your video help me a lot. Thank you
Thanks G. I thought the same as I was suggested this by a stock car designer/fabricator. If you have the parts, do a bench mock-up. You will find zero lateral play. I used very heavy Heim fittings. I can look up the size if needed......
Hi Karen, the tubing under the bike is 1" with a .125 wall. The brackets were made out of .250 mild steel plate. Every installation is unique, a good source of help is a certified welder/fabricator. If you can post a picture or send a PM I may be able to offer you some advice. It will turn out to be a challenge, but don't give up. More power to you!
Thanks for the video man. I am planning on building a sidecar soon and this was helpful to get me on track! Nice bike by the way
Excellent video chum. I'm making one right now myself and could use any tips you might have. Grew up in a machine shop and can weld anything from a broken heart to a guilty conscience. lol. 1994 6 cylinder Kawai. I would be grateful for help with the frame on the bike.
Hi Judge TK. Sorry to be answering 9 months late. I used the mounts that came with the Inder sidecar kit. Lots of modifying, but you're handy with welding, you shouldn't have any trouble. Triangulate the mounts to the Kawi frame. I think your bike is very heavy, so use schedule 80 tubing as a suggestion. Probably hold off in anything permanent on the bike frame, as you may not like riding with a sidecar.......
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Thank you for showing the frame!
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I am sorry to say that the structure is not as strong as one requires.
Basically there are three in line hinges and the only non "hinged" joint is the front lower p art and I cannot imagine that that horizontal threaded rod will hold a load at the other three basically hinged joints. .
The structure is nowhere near enough to handle the mass of a rotating full size car wheel! Are you guys trying to kill someone, assholes?
Saludo que fina Moto y que .Buen GUSTO....tiene usted que lindo detalles sobre todo pero TODO muy bueno GRACIAS..........sin mas palabras......
Excellent video, you should of been a professor, you speak perfectly, not to fast and not to slow. I have a Kawaskai 1700 and starting to build my sidecar, did you buy the brackets or did the welder fabricate them and where did you get your tire from, beautiful, you are a great help, Thank you, Robert
Hi Dr.Sarhan, the sidecar was originally an Inder product from India. I had it mounted to a Kawasaki XS650. The wheel, suspension, and frame were very light duty, suitable for a smaller bike. I fabricated the new frame myself, with advice from a professional racecar builder for the suspension mounting. The mounting struts were reused from the Inder frame. They were mounted in a triangular layout for strength. The axle spindle and wheel are replacement trailer parts. The spring/shock assembly came from a medium size motorcycle.
Doctor, I built this almost ten years ago, not knowing there would be so much interest in my project. I would have kept notes on parts, measurements, and suppliers. It did ride well with a 260 pound passenger. If I had another sidecar body, I would build another with improvements on the frame design and appearance. I was a lot of fun! PS I left you a note on one of your videos. Art
Wow
Loved it!😘
But don't you feel the arm rest is too close to the bare tyre?! 😢
Thank you
Kinda cool, thanks for sharing.
Hope i'm wrong, but the mounting brackets are not safe. That frame will colapse on te first fast left hand bend..
Thanks for your concern. No flexing with the side car frame after completion. I regularly carried a 250 pound passenger.. I sold the side car to a gentleman who mounted it on a Harley FL touring bike. If it was going to break, that would have done it. Never happened.....
No , it seems that there a lot of Bielski around !
Does the side car lean when you lean or is the sidecar rigid like most side cars ? Most side cars when you turn left lift the sidecar up and right turn you have to turn right . hard at best and you to relearn to drive it . I have only seen once a British bike that had the side wheel leaned in unison with the front tire , better control at high speed .
The sidecar is rigidly mounted....
Is that available in the shop (only the side cart) for any motorcycle (like for Palsur 200 NS), if so good
Can this be done for an Honda Activa sccoter also. At what cost. I need to build a BBQ on the platform to take it to any location.
Looks like it'll do the job Art.
Thanks Zig.........Art
Very American, pleaae no hate it is not a political statement it is the American philosophy. Looks great not my style but good job, thanks for posting.
enjoyed that alot .....good info
Very nice. What are the adjustable struts called?
Was it hard to handle with the wide tire?
I didn't notice a big difference over the original frame/suspension. But it was much heavier. Wider handlebars are recommended...
But the ride for the passenger was much better than stock.
do you have a step by step how to build this, and also where to get the materials and what tools to use ?? thanks!
any change you have a cutting list and parts
Gracias
thank yuo for your video
I like this video.
Bonjour à tous j'ai la même moto où peut on trouver ce matériel pour attelé merci
Hi Joel, would you please translate your comment? Thanks
The frame under us bike, what is the size of pipe? The mounting brackets where did you get? I'm trying to make a trike out of a trailer, utility trike I call it. I'm trying to figure out what is the best way to mount it to the bike. I'm disabled female and trying to do it all myself.
If you look on TH-cam n put in supertrike, it will show a bike with this setup. I've tried to get up with the owner but no responce. So I'm trying it. I've got the trailer cut out and axles welded, yes I'm doing the welding but I have a friend that is making sure its done right. My issue is trying to figure out how to attach. Any suggestion would be a great help! Thanks for or time.
Also under cleancutsudios on TH-cam
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I'm trying to do the same thing to my Intruder 1400. Anyway you could help me out with what all you needed/used? Also what you mounted it to on the bike. And if you have the measurements or drawing that would be awesome! I'm wanting to have it done this winter so my daughter can ride with me next year. Let me know and I'll shoot you my email. Thank you!
Hi, I wish I could help you more. I didn't use drawings, it fell into place as I began assembly. I lost track of the sidecar after I sold it. The new owner attached it to his full dress Harley to ride his 150 pound dog in it..... Good luck with your project. It's good for family fun, young and old love riding in a sidecar!
as a ex motorcycle mechanic who has fitted many sidecars I think you never get this outfit to handle as it should or be as safe as it should be .
Hi Chris, I understand your concern. It was my first time designing a sidecar frame. If I were to do it again, I would make changes in the triangulation of the mounts. It rode very well for the passenger, who happened to be 200+ pounds. I sold the bike and then the sidecar. The buyer mounted it to a Harley Road King. His passenger was a 150 dog! No issues....
Unfortunately, I don't think I have pictures of the body mounted on the frame...Queasyrider
Error: I thought you were referring to the swing arm. The frame mounts are triangulated. Look again please.
Was there ever any update on this?
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list of parts needed pls
I'm also a sidecar diy builder ,I think the attachment of sidecar to the motorcycle is not sufficient and very dangerous to the passengers.
Thank you for your concern. The mounting system was consistent with the mount supplied with the sidecar kit. If I was to do it again, certain points would be modified. This was the first time effort. In reality, it never showed any weakness, carrying a large person. I sold the sidecar to a gentleman who installed it on a large Harley touring model and reported that there weren't any issues. With the suspension I created, it handled and rode very well.
Queasyrider
final sidecar weight.. please
Full HD 4k
what are your costs ? Time frames?
Margaret P. Clarke It's been 3-4 years. About $3500-4000. It took a month, lots of time designing, redesigning. I did all work except paint. Good luck.
↖️ is Sidecar.
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Va bene per il ghiaccio carenandolo ci puoi fare il wc con sedile sparco tutte le stagioni
Mau tanya om.... sambungan untuk kerangka motornya namanya baut apa ya yg panjang itu
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Need a brake on the the sidecar , it a. lot of weight to stop that setup ! I know I have no brake on the sidecar, in a emermercy ,it lock up the rear wheel !
Excellent suggestion! Unfortunately I sold the sidecar some years ago. Wish I had it back......
ficou muito bom
just trying to help !
Are you any relation to the Bielski family in Medford, Mass.?
xe nay ma vo tay minh thi minh lam khac,them visai nua cho chay ca 2 chan,se khong bi lac ngang,trong tam cua xe se on dinh hon
Looks very heavy
Si può omologare sidecar fai da te e poi staccare dalla moto quando vuoi
700th like!
Joel imus
Рама на этом мотоцикле слабая. Плохой ремонт
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