Consider ergonomics too, I find that using the Sawvivor for a lot of wood processing is far more comfortable than doing the same with saws of the Bahco Laplander type.
I fully agree friend:) The Bacho is good on the fly. For camp craft/cutting a nights worth of fire wood. Sawvivor. I have in my vids made an entire camp for the winter with only a small Fiskars saw and a Fiskars X5 (very) small axe. Just for trying out what it's like to build a camp with minimal tools:) Regards, Lars
That's exactly why I went with the BAHCO when I was buying a saw. Quick deployment time and size and weight trumped the slightly faster cut time and span of the Sawvivor.
I agree, but the sawvivor will make up for the "slow" deployment time when it comes to shelter building and cutting firewood for an entire night and next morning. Regards, Lars
Can you replace the blade on the Laplander? To me, being able to replace the blade on the Sawvivor it's it dulls or we're to break is a pretty big bonus.
I can see both of these saws having a place in my systems. the Bahco, being smaller, lighter, and easier to deploy and stow, makes it best for solo hikes, overnighters, and survival kits, while the 15" blade on the Sawvivor, allows it to process larger logs, faster and easier. making it best for group hikes, multi day, and bivouac camping.
Love my laplander. It fits in the pocket and after years of use and abuse it's still doing the job. I've used it with my hatchet to cut down bigass trees and alsorts.
I'm not as concerned with deploy time as I am with weight. Yeah, the Laplander saws a little slower, but it looks sexier to me (lighter and more compact). I've actually been looking at saws for backpacking this spring and summer, so thanks for the demos.
Sawvivor for the win! Just my preference.I would rather be able to cut through something thick with the sawvivor in less time than take forever with the Laplander. Good vid.
Excellent data point. Bahco is the way to go most of the time because theres no reason to cut a tree more than 4 inches in diameter. Except when only large trees are available and fire is needed than go with a bow or buck saw or a light, more compact version, the Sawvivor.
So...a longer Bahco...say, 12"...would be ideal as it would be faster and deploy just as fast and still fit very well in the back bag. Contrary to many other folding saws Bahco cuts on both push and pull strokes and the teeth are offset enough, I think, so it does not bind. Pretty damn good design...although just your basic builders saw, only folding.
Sawvivor took 36 sec to deploy and let's say it takes 20 sec to put it away. For a folding saw, both are 'bout one second. Sawvivor is 3 sec faster, so it would take 18 of those logs for both saws to hit the same time...
Quick Deployment, Fewer Parts, and We're guessing lighter weight or the about the same. Bahco Laplander would be our choice with what we mentioned. But we're guess opinions can always come into play where strong argument could be made in favor of the TrailBlazer Sawvivor. But opinion like you feel in the blank. Great in-use review of both saws Scout.
I like to use my axe and saw together. On a down tree Ill cut a couple inches with the saw and then finish it off with a couple whacks with the axe. With standing trees I do the reverse. Ill notch it will the axe the side I want it to fall and the saw the back side. It seems like its quicker and I use different muscle groups which helps defending off fatigue.
Not planning to enter Olympic tree sawing events any time soon so deployment speed not really a concern of mine. More interested in cost, build quality, storage size and weight to some extent. How do they differ in the size of matterial they can cut and how about replacement part availability / warranty.
Great video. I understand why you were working fast for the purposes of this video, but I just wanted to mention that in any other situation, it's always better to go a little slower, for safety, etc. I was so worried you were going to bind up and cut a finger, break a blade, etc. I'm glad that didn't happen. Survival is hard enough on it's own, much more so with an injury. Take care...
The Sawvivor rules. My dad Randy Ryon invented it, we used to help him build it before he sold the rights to Trailblazer. Aircraft aluminum, light weight, you can swap out a bone blade for hunting too.
"Deployment" is not an issue for me. What, are we competition cutters? I suppose in an extreme survival situation it might slightly improve one's survivability, but realistically if the tolerances of survivability are that tight, whomever is probably not going to make it. I prefer to hear about effort-to-speed-ratio/durability of a saw versus how fast it deploys.
i have always used a Sawvivor, and like the cut it gives. Deployment doesnt really matter to me. when the sawvivor blad is dull, can replac it. What anout the blade on the Laplander. Have a good day..
I have already done so thus the comment, there are plenty of videos out there on the Sawvivor and the Laplander so no need for me to add any additional useless info IMO as you did here. But I do like allot of your videos, usually the ones that go in depth and require use of your personal experiences to make points. Sorry if I offended, I tend to call it like I see it.
I have both of these saws and my choice is..........The Silky Super Accel. Or the Corona RS 7265 Razor Tooth both of which cut far better than the Bahco and they are quick deploy. I'm sorry I cheated on this comment, but it is the truth. I am getting older and strive for lite weight and ease of operation.
Is the sawviver faster, really? Maybe in a lab-like setting, but remember that the blade will bend more, which not only throws off the angle of the cut for larger jobs, but also means that he blade can warp or eventually break, requiring resetting. I just don't really trust the "bow" style design to stay rigid over the time of the cutting task. Granted, you can store an extra blade inside of the folding handle, which is a plus.
The best saw is by far a Silky. Google Silky Sugoi, or Silky Zubat to see what I am getting at. My Sawvivor hasn't been used in years and I wont own a Laplander...Thee Laplander cuts too slow and wastes energy IMHO. Not crapping on those products...Its just that Silky makes a superb piece of equipment. Most arbourists use Silky equipment BTW.
Great Video, exactly what I would have wanted to see.
Consider ergonomics too, I find that using the Sawvivor for a lot of wood processing is far more comfortable than doing the same with saws of the Bahco Laplander type.
Definitely diggin' that Laplander man. Looks like a solid and compact option for packing into the backcountry. Great side-by-side demo btw!
I just got the Bacho and will be testing it soon, I really like the design.
Awesome video, I use the Laplander too on my camping trips, great to clean grass areas or just undesired branches. Thank you for the video
I fully agree friend:) The Bacho is good on the fly. For camp craft/cutting a nights worth of fire wood. Sawvivor. I have in my vids made an entire camp for the winter with only a small Fiskars saw and a Fiskars X5 (very) small axe. Just for trying out what it's like to build a camp with minimal tools:)
Regards, Lars
You like Bacho!
Trailblazer is much better!
That's exactly why I went with the BAHCO when I was buying a saw. Quick deployment time and size and weight trumped the slightly faster cut time and span of the Sawvivor.
I agree, but the sawvivor will make up for the "slow" deployment time when it comes to shelter building and cutting firewood for an entire night and next morning.
Regards, Lars
I have the bahco and its a great tool.
thanks for interesting video
And of course the sawblade of the sawvivor is longer, meaning you can saw through larger pieces of wood. Very nice comparison, thanks for that.
Can you replace the blade on the Laplander? To me, being able to replace the blade on the Sawvivor it's it dulls or we're to break is a pretty big bonus.
I can see both of these saws having a place in my systems. the Bahco, being smaller, lighter, and easier to deploy and stow, makes it best for solo hikes, overnighters, and survival kits, while the 15" blade on the Sawvivor, allows it to process larger logs, faster and easier. making it best for group hikes, multi day, and bivouac camping.
Love my laplander. It fits in the pocket and after years of use and abuse it's still doing the job. I've used it with my hatchet to cut down bigass trees and alsorts.
For winter, I prefer saws that use the bow saw type blade. I've got a Wyoming Saw and two blades. Good video LBS.
I'm not as concerned with deploy time as I am with weight. Yeah, the Laplander saws a little slower, but it looks sexier to me (lighter and more compact). I've actually been looking at saws for backpacking this spring and summer, so thanks for the demos.
Sawvivor for the win! Just my preference.I would rather be able to cut through something thick with the sawvivor in less time than take forever with the Laplander. Good vid.
You thinking about doing a Silky vs. Bahco, the best two folders on the market. For buck saws maybe Dustrude buck saw vs Sven or Sawvivor
Excellent data point.
Bahco is the way to go most of the time because theres no reason to cut a tree more than 4 inches in diameter. Except when only large trees are available and fire is needed than go with a bow or buck saw or a light, more compact version, the Sawvivor.
So...a longer Bahco...say, 12"...would be ideal as it would be faster and deploy just as fast and still fit very well in the back bag. Contrary to many other folding saws Bahco cuts on both push and pull strokes and the teeth are offset enough, I think, so it does not bind. Pretty damn good design...although just your basic builders saw, only folding.
Sawvivor took 36 sec to deploy and let's say it takes 20 sec to put it away. For a folding saw, both are 'bout one second. Sawvivor is 3 sec faster, so it would take 18 of those logs for both saws to hit the same time...
Ari Lehtiniemi I agree. Haha a longer bahco will always win haha.
Quick Deployment, Fewer Parts, and We're guessing lighter weight or the about the same. Bahco Laplander would be our choice with what we mentioned. But we're guess opinions can always come into play where strong argument could be made in favor of the TrailBlazer Sawvivor. But opinion like you feel in the blank. Great in-use review of both saws Scout.
Fiskars makes also a folding saw similar to the bahco, it works great!
I like to use my axe and saw together. On a down tree Ill cut a couple inches with the saw and then finish it off with a couple whacks with the axe. With standing trees I do the reverse. Ill notch it will the axe the side I want it to fall and the saw the back side. It seems like its quicker and I use different muscle groups which helps defending off fatigue.
Not planning to enter Olympic tree sawing events any time soon so deployment speed not really a concern of mine. More interested in cost, build quality, storage size and weight to some extent. How do they differ in the size of matterial they can cut and how about replacement part availability / warranty.
I see your point.
Best folding saw Ive tried is the Silky Gomboy 300.
I have the Bahco
I like the Laplander
My sawvivor first use in the woods broke, the stud at the far end where the blade attaches the rivet pealed back
Great video. I understand why you were working fast for the purposes of this video, but I just wanted to mention that in any other situation, it's always better to go a little slower, for safety, etc. I was so worried you were going to bind up and cut a finger, break a blade, etc. I'm glad that didn't happen. Survival is hard enough on it's own, much more so with an injury. Take care...
The Sawvivor rules. My dad Randy Ryon invented it, we used to help him build it before he sold the rights to Trailblazer. Aircraft aluminum, light weight, you can swap out a bone blade for hunting too.
I agree, it rocks. Tell your dad I said "well done".
"Deployment" is not an issue for me. What, are we competition cutters? I suppose in an extreme survival situation it might slightly improve one's survivability, but realistically if the tolerances of survivability are that tight, whomever is probably not going to make it.
I prefer to hear about effort-to-speed-ratio/durability of a saw versus how fast it deploys.
My sawvivor broke on me... bought the laplander and never looked back.
i have always used a Sawvivor, and like the cut it gives. Deployment doesnt really matter to me. when the sawvivor blad is dull, can replac it. What anout the blade on the Laplander. Have a good day..
night falls fast and winter is coming more wood fast is the way 2 go
I have already done so thus the comment, there are plenty of videos out there on the Sawvivor and the Laplander so no need for me to add any additional useless info IMO as you did here. But I do like allot of your videos, usually the ones that go in depth and require use of your personal experiences to make points. Sorry if I offended, I tend to call it like I see it.
I have both of these saws and my choice is..........The Silky Super Accel. Or the Corona RS 7265 Razor Tooth both of which cut far better than the Bahco and they are quick deploy. I'm sorry I cheated on this comment, but it is the truth. I am getting older and strive for lite weight and ease of operation.
Is the sawviver faster, really? Maybe in a lab-like setting, but remember that the blade will bend more, which not only throws off the angle of the cut for larger jobs, but also means that he blade can warp or eventually break, requiring resetting. I just don't really trust the "bow" style design to stay rigid over the time of the cutting task. Granted, you can store an extra blade inside of the folding handle, which is a plus.
Do you happen to know the respective weights?
What fixed blade was?
Why does the deploy time matter?
The Bacho seems like less can go wrong. If you're going to do serious sawing, you should buy a real saw. But I'm bias... ;)
The best saw is by far a Silky. Google Silky Sugoi, or Silky Zubat to see what I am getting at.
My Sawvivor hasn't been used in years and I wont own a Laplander...Thee Laplander cuts too slow and wastes energy IMHO.
Not crapping on those products...Its just that Silky makes a superb piece of equipment.
Most arbourists use Silky equipment BTW.
Who the heck a saws wood like that, hike 14 miles then review something like a saw or tool then the data points will be usefull
i own the bahco. i do not own the sawvivor.
Or just carry a large knife/ Machete
Jumping out of your car and sawing wood as fast as you can is stupid SnowLobo95 and helps nobody
Zombie trees?
Lol which will fail first?