I've been writing music for a long time but I'm new to actually engineering and mixing. I've instinctually done this since I first started. Glad to see it's an actual technique that pros use!
This is something I've been doing since like 2017. I would tell my engineer and he wasn't up on it. But I think this is so important for mixing and mastering. Especially mastering.
This is great advice.. and something I really need to do in my sessions. I need to sit down and build a list of tracks that I like sonically and build a template. Also I listened to your weekly track and it sounds amazing!!! I love what your doing with vocals and how it just fits like glue in the mix.
man i could not agree with this more. not only should everyone use a reference track, but you should reference from your own speakers/set up. it will never be exactly the same but thats what makes your tune yours. LOVE the content devvon, keep it up.
I just Started To do Reference Mixing, and damn man My Mixed Now sound way more dope than Before, It,s true Reference mixing is Extremely Important, now that I am happy with the results, i dont think i will ever mix without reference again..
Enigeer for 20 years and I definitely agree!! . biggest issue nowadays (not a problem back in the 2000's) is actually getting access to wave files (CD)and not the mp3 version (streaming downloads). The public consumes music on the go 99% of the time. I went to Target last year when I was mastering a project and I bought the physical copy of The Chronic and Migos Culture 2 CD's for reference. Using Ozone 9 I am able to dump audio in and pull up the "eq curve", etc. Check it out if u havent... #metypebeats #anystyleanygenre
If you want lossless sites like junodownload, or if you want to super level up your reference game, download the multitracks and reference each instrument
You do that post recording. Chances of you having the same mic, or mic tone as someone on the reference track is slim, so move closer to their sound via EQ's, compression, & post FX - making sure to go back and listen often so you know whether you're getting closer or further from the target sound.
I'm not so sure Avarage Joe hear enough analytically which things are problematic in his song. I suggest use multiband and eq and also compare mid and side, LUFS etc. But yeah reference is vital sure
Man, I was just about to comment and shout out that plugin. From tutorials it seems like a good one to use. I bought it a while back on sale and haven't used it yet. Slight production delay.
thank you for always demystifying the dope Topics! Please can we have proprer tutorial showing how you apply referencing track??? it will be very useful may God Bless you for all what you share with us in the name of Jesus Christ
What about reference mastering? I know they are both important, but would you say reference mixing or reference or mastering is more important if you had to choose one?
I say reference mixing over mastering unless a client wants their master to sound like a specific song when mastering other than that I don’t reference in mastering I just focus on what’s in front of me
He already said how to brotha. Use a professional track that you personally like, that has a similar feel & sound of the song you're creating/recording.
Horizun The Alien i have understood everything he said, but what i meant was if i dont have a specific song in mind that i can use for reference how can i then find one?
@@shansondeshinkolo817 I have heard some people use multiple reference tracks - if they don't have a single one that is completely similar, they find two or three that have specific characteristics that you're trying to get similar feeling elements from.. IE, drums and sub bass from one, vocals from another, I instrumental synths from the third... Ect. Whatever characteristics you want similarities to. That way you're not so focused on finding "that one that sounds similar enough" every time. Although if you do it that way, make sure you're not trying to mimic the entire mix of all of them, really focus on those specific elements that you're looking for from each of them..or you'll find yourself constantly readjusting the overall mix when you re-listen to the next one. Pick the target for each and work toward that goal! Another thing you could do is find an artist that may have similar sounds or elements to your song on pandora, and listen until you find a song with enough high level characteristics you want to work towards. Then download the song when you find a good one. Hope that helps, happy mixing bruv. 👽🎚️
The real problem is when you can't find the right reference song. I've been looking for the reference to one of my tracks yesterday, today and I couldn't find anything really similar.
Don't worry about finding the perfect fit, use three or more. One track might be bass heavy, another one might have brighter vocals so by comparing all three of them you can gauge your mix better.
One can skip audio engineering school and learn everything from your channel bro lol. Do you download your high quality reference songs from a streaming service such as Tidal?
I've been using reference tracks since right around the time CD's were created. I'm afraid youth today may find it hard to get their hands on CD quality audio to actually reference full quality audio. I will often buy CD's or download 44.1kHz/16 bit files of the tracks I want to use for referencing so I can have the full sonic quality to reference from. Using a compressed form like an MP3 to reference ain't quite the same. (Just my 2cents)
new version of how you process beat stems in relation too vocals? I know you got a lot of outboard gear so wondering if anything has changed. thanks Devvon!
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Listen to this song today!! song.link/week2
hey Devvon, how do you screen record your daw with the audio on both sides and not just the left side
The new intro and setup is legit my G
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too fvckin lit 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Still haven’t done the video you promised concerning room acoustic tour, or the Neve Portico! 🤓
I've been writing music for a long time but I'm new to actually engineering and mixing. I've instinctually done this since I first started. Glad to see it's an actual technique that pros use!
Heck yea its a big big bonus to do this!!
Bro ur really leveled up my mixes
I’m going to work with you soon !!
Speaking it into existence!
This is something I've been doing since like 2017. I would tell my engineer and he wasn't up on it. But I think this is so important for mixing and mastering. Especially mastering.
This is great advice.. and something I really need to do in my sessions. I need to sit down and build a list of tracks that I like sonically and build a template. Also I listened to your weekly track and it sounds amazing!!! I love what your doing with vocals and how it just fits like glue in the mix.
So glad I clicked on this. Always knew about reference mixing but never gave it the time. You are the best person to explain it 👍
man i could not agree with this more. not only should everyone use a reference track, but you should reference from your own speakers/set up. it will never be exactly the same but thats what makes your tune yours. LOVE the content devvon, keep it up.
Robbie Valentine thanks man!!
I wish there was something explaining how.
Thanks bro something so simple I’ve never thought to do
Still the best tutorials/tips on youtube. Thanks for everything you do Devvon
You’re the only person I’d buy a mixing course from
Thank you so much and you say it all without missing anything as usual.....Hats off
Thank you Devvon! and I will give your song a listen and share!
background music is insane
Best tutorials ever.much love from 🇰🇪 keep doing what you are doing.🔊🔊
you're almost too helpful bro, I'm new to all this but you're so detailed with your teaching process, thank you so much.
Excellent and Beyond Thanks
LOVE This Consistency!! Keep It Coming!!!!
One question my guy, do I use the reference track while mastering too??
I just Started To do Reference Mixing, and damn man My Mixed Now sound way more dope than Before, It,s true Reference mixing is Extremely Important, now that I am happy with the results, i dont think i will ever mix without reference again..
As you shouldnt!! I always mix with a reference to let me know where I stand
gat good respect for tuts and your music is cool ,thumbs up
Thank you for always giving us the keys man
Enigeer for 20 years and I definitely agree!! . biggest issue nowadays (not a problem back in the 2000's) is actually getting access to wave files (CD)and not the mp3 version (streaming downloads). The public consumes music on the go 99% of the time. I went to Target last year when I was mastering a project and I bought the physical copy of The Chronic and Migos Culture 2 CD's for reference. Using Ozone 9 I am able to dump audio in and pull up the "eq curve", etc. Check it out if u havent... #metypebeats #anystyleanygenre
I've gotten so much from your videos, I appreciate you.
Thank you Devon!
Solid advice! 🙏 And this track sounds dope im about to check it out
Always love your videos bro
how would you go about it in the master phase of the song, if ur using the master track to master ur song it would also be effecting ur reference
How do you even get a reference track into ya daw do you download it or?
This is great advice, thank you!!!
bro, where you get high quality reference tracks tho?
If you want lossless sites like junodownload, or if you want to super level up your reference game, download the multitracks and reference each instrument
Nake Little lmao iTunes nothing special just download it from iTunes for 99 cents man
@@HelpMeDevvon can we get reference tracks for free coz for now i'm dead broke 😅
@@youaintasbadasyouthink From where we can download reference tracks for free plz help me🙏
But them
Great advice! Thanks!
You HAVE to break down those vocals in "Week 4"!!!!
How do we get reference tracks? Everything I’m using peaks above 0db by at least 2 db
Whoaa, i was doing just that but by memory :D!!
This is even better.
Can we still reference even if we are mixing a two track ?
Great information fellow alum!
Is there a decent priced plugin with which we can do references? Or should I say what is the best plugin to do references?
Kiian Kiiko there’s no plugin just download from iTunes
Thank You!
Hey. A quick question. When referencing do you need to match the tone of your mic to his mic sound too? If yes, what do you need to consider?
You do that post recording. Chances of you having the same mic, or mic tone as someone on the reference track is slim, so move closer to their sound via EQ's, compression, & post FX - making sure to go back and listen often so you know whether you're getting closer or further from the target sound.
Can you make a video on the process for writing lyrics
Nothing but Facts reference mixing will change your life mixes
thank you
I'm not so sure Avarage Joe hear enough analytically which things are problematic in his song. I suggest use multiband and eq and also compare mid and side, LUFS etc. But yeah reference is vital sure
I wish Devon had just explained the tools used to analyze the reverence
Yoooooo!!! This Is Too Freaking Helpful
What headphones do you use in your videos? Are those closed or open back headphones?
Most probably AKG open back headphones
Thanks for the info Dope 🔥
Do you have any courses?
I love u bro ! Best channel
I use this plugin called Magic AB. You can reference your track against multiple industry songs.....
Man, I was just about to comment and shout out that plugin. From tutorials it seems like a good one to use. I bought it a while back on sale and haven't used it yet. Slight production delay.
Metric AB is what I got
one of the best plugins for referring industry tracks to ur own...
Thanks bro you help a lot 🔥🔥🔥
thank you for always demystifying the dope Topics! Please can we have proprer tutorial showing how you apply referencing track??? it will be very useful may God Bless you for all what you share with us in the name of Jesus Christ
What about reference mastering? I know they are both important, but would you say reference mixing or reference or mastering is more important if you had to choose one?
Reference mixing, let someone professional master it in a better environment. They can't fix a bad mix, but they can elevate a good one
I say reference mixing over mastering unless a client wants their master to sound like a specific song when mastering other than that I don’t reference in mastering I just focus on what’s in front of me
@@HelpMeDevvon Yo thanks for the reply man! Really insightful, I appreciate that!
In which streaming platform you are uploading your songs? Devvon
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@Helpmedevvon I think this is what my mix are missing
every video he in somebody else house/room...lol
dope vid man keep hustling!
where can i just get libraries of mastered songs if there is any
That yo yo kills ne everytime😂
awesome
And if your mixing a beat same thing?
Devvon, I would like to know how to find a track to use as a reference?
He already said how to brotha. Use a professional track that you personally like, that has a similar feel & sound of the song you're creating/recording.
Horizun The Alien i have understood everything he said, but what i meant was if i dont have a specific song in mind that i can use for reference how can i then find one?
@@shansondeshinkolo817 I have heard some people use multiple reference tracks - if they don't have a single one that is completely similar, they find two or three that have specific characteristics that you're trying to get similar feeling elements from.. IE, drums and sub bass from one, vocals from another, I instrumental synths from the third... Ect. Whatever characteristics you want similarities to. That way you're not so focused on finding "that one that sounds similar enough" every time. Although if you do it that way, make sure you're not trying to mimic the entire mix of all of them, really focus on those specific elements that you're looking for from each of them..or you'll find yourself constantly readjusting the overall mix when you re-listen to the next one. Pick the target for each and work toward that goal!
Another thing you could do is find an artist that may have similar sounds or elements to your song on pandora, and listen until you find a song with enough high level characteristics you want to work towards. Then download the song when you find a good one.
Hope that helps, happy mixing bruv. 👽🎚️
Horizun The Alien thanks for help
Link to the song????!!
ozone 9 download the Reference song and it will match eq and everything for you does it for you
How to fix too nasaly vocals... please
The real problem is when you can't find the right reference song. I've been looking for the reference to one of my tracks yesterday, today and I couldn't find anything really similar.
Don't worry about finding the perfect fit, use three or more. One track might be bass heavy, another one might have brighter vocals so by comparing all three of them you can gauge your mix better.
Yea it doesn’t have to be perfect just get something you like and compare things
One can skip audio engineering school and learn everything from your channel bro lol. Do you download your high quality reference songs from a streaming service such as Tidal?
Just download from iTunes and google play!
I never know how to pick the right reference track for songs I make
Where do you download your reference tracks from?
Heartland James iTunes!!!!!
I've been using reference tracks since right around the time CD's were created. I'm afraid youth today may find it hard to get their hands on CD quality audio to actually reference full quality audio. I will often buy CD's or download 44.1kHz/16 bit files of the tracks I want to use for referencing so I can have the full sonic quality to reference from. Using a compressed form like an MP3 to reference ain't quite the same. (Just my 2cents)
It’s the best we got from iTunes so u gotta make the best of it
new version of how you process beat stems in relation too vocals? I know you got a lot of outboard gear so wondering if anything has changed. thanks Devvon!
Taut refrence tracks was a dumb a idea till i tried that shit last yr . Blind mixing is corny as f 😔
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Online Hustle facts 😂 I found his channel 2 days ago and watched every video already lol
you will hear what your song is mixing...MISSING *** :D
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