Pacific Surfliner: Train Talk Ep. 19
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- All aboard! The Pacific Surfliner is an intercity Amtrak service that travels between the southern California cities of San Diego, Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, and San Luis Obispo. Let's take a look at the Pacific Surfliner, its history, and what the future holds in store for the service.
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Thanks for the history about the Pacific Surfliner, Mike. Hope to see more episodes like this!
There will be more like this in the future! Thanks!
CoasterFan2105 You're welcome!
Nice video! I’m a huge fan of the Surfliner, even though I don’t live near it. I caught Surfliner 763 a few days ago on a family trip, though. Sad to see the F59’s go, but the Chargers will be a great replacement. And we’ll get some non-fouled K5LA’s for once!
The Surfliner holds a special place in my heart because it was the first Amtrak train I ever rode on! Back in October of 2016, my parents took me on a vacation to California for the very first time! One of the things that I did there was ride the Surfliner from LA to San Diego with my mother. Once in San Diego, we visited the San Diego Model Railroad Museum. Later in the day, my Mom and I took the Surfliner back to LA to meet up with my Dad who was in a work meeting (I think) while we were gone! It was a great trip and I hope to ride the Surfliner again one day!
Wow u uploaded it exactly 18 years after the route it was renamed from san diegan to Pacific Surfliner
the Pacific Surfliner is my favorite amtrak train
It's also one of my favorites as well following the Coast Starlight and Amtrak Cascades
Defiantly one of my favorite Amtrak's! Great video!
I took the Surfliner from San Diego to Anaheim back in 2015. It is, without a doubt, the most beautiful train ride I’ve ever been on.
Thanks Mike. Great episode of Train Talks. You are a perfect story teller. When the story teller talk also shows rail tracks, contemporary and old train sets , railroads bridges and all kind of rail installations the video is always great. Please make more talk episodes of this quality.
Nice Episode! I rode The Pacific Surfliner in 2003 and 2009 when I visit My Grandparents from 1992-2010.
And Also I have The Route for Train Simulator which Is The Surfliner 2.0 by JDesignsTS
Awesome! I rode the Surfliner back in 2011 from San Diego to San Juan Capistrano. It was a great experience.
Great video of my most favorite Amtrak route-The Pacific Surfliner. I travel on the Pacific Surfliner between San Diego, Los Angeles & Oxnard when I’m home in the San Diego area for visits up to a week.
I alternate my visits between Los Angeles & Oxnard. My next visit home, to the San Diego area, I will be visiting Los Angeles next when I ride the Pacific Surfliner. Last year I rode to Oxnard, CA on 5/27/2017 for a visit & since that day I have been traveling on the Pacific Surfliner. Best travel choice I ever made, don’t have to fight traffic and deal with those that slow down for the sake of slowing down when there is no construction zone,no accident, no wet and/or foggy weather.
The Surfliner F59PHI's will soon be heading over to Metra by the end of August.
I took this train in April 2022 on the day the Padres played the Dodgers in San Diego. I did a round-trip from LA to San Juan Capistrano and loved it! HUGE train, comfortable seats. The train was busy though, and didn't see ANY scenery.
the single level coach surf liner trains are used when classes are using the surf liner trains for taking field trips to zoos or museums. This is for a safety reason, I guess, especially when kindergartners are taking the train for field trip to the zoo, or at least that is what I noticed one time when I was taking a surf liner train to Santa Barbara. that train was using single coaches instead of the double Decker surf liner coaches and there were kindergartners taking that train to Santa Barbara. they were probably going to zoo in Santa Barbara.
So you're saying... a San Diegan Daylight is in consideration?!
Surfliner, you have my full attention
Amazing train video
Awesome informative video as always!
Hey Mike I remember those F59PHI’s from train talk, and I hope the Amtrak Pacific Surfliner will get their horns fixed and full blasted
Perfect timing for a Train Talk Epsiode on the Surfliner! Happy 18th Anniversary Pacific Surfliner. Great video btw. :)
On June 1st I was mainly celebrating the 10th anniversary of 3751’s history making return to San Diego since 1953, nice touch for you doing the Surfliner video on that day!
Good video. How beautiful is the coast of the Pacific.
There will be Chargers painted in Pacific Surfliner paint.
Fascinating video, Mike! This is the gem of Southern California!
Thanks! I live in San Diego and I go to school in San Luis Obispo so this is my train! The bus to connect from San Luis Obispo to Santa Barbara when they don't run the train all the way from SLO leaves around 3 in the morning so that's always exciting. 😁
Great info
In addition, I have a Cabride DVD which Covers the Entire Route from Los Angeles to San Diego from 2005.
Thanks to focussing on your home state :)
Great history Mike!!!
10 years ago on June 1st 2008, Santa Fe 3751 went to San Diego on the surf for the first time since 1953! Also the first time since 1976 a steamer was on the surf!
Seems like it was just yesterday!
Did you know that the surfliner trains have reconfigurated the direction that the locomotive and the cab cars run. When the surfliner began service, the locomotives pulled the trains towards Los Angeles union station, but sometime in 2003 or 2004, the surfliner trains turned around. The surfliner trains now push towards Los Angeles union station and pull towards San Diego, Santa Barbara, and San Luis Obispo.
have you notice that the coaches on the Surf liner trains say Amtrak California while the Surf liner locomotives only Amtrak on them.
If your not back from your trip yet you should try to catch 1943 on the UP OCS
Im gonna miss the F59PHIs ;-;
Me too.
Me 3
Me as well! Frankly the new chargers are kinda ugly
I recently found out before work on the san diego trolley was started, there was a proposition to make a commuter train between downtown san diego and san ysidro, which i wish wouldve been the choice they made, but anyway, i think the perfect place for the Amtrak yard in san diego would either be national city in between the 2 bnsf yards or further south in chula vista following the old coronado line tracks
Yeah, seems to me like a commuter train would have made much more sense than a trolley on that line. But at least it's something!
More train talk that way it can stick in my smart train brain
Thanks Mike for this informative video.
I am excited at the prospect of Surfliner service being expanded to the Bay Area.
Great Video! I enjoyed it a lot and I’m sad to see the f59phi’s go
Yeah. :(
I F%CKING LOVE THIS TRAIN (my childhood)
The biggest problem with the Coast Daylight idea is that it would run at almost exactly the same time as the Coast Starlight -- i.e. it would be rather redundant. You'd have to do some major track improvements to improve speed to make a second Socal -> Bay Area daytime trip -- by which time hopefully CHSR would be up and running. In that eventuality the only cities that would really benefit heavily from the Coast Daylight would be Salinas and Paso Robles.
A *huge* win would be an economy sleeper from SF -> San Diego running at night with limited to no food service (maybe include vending machines), and simple berths (with roomettes maybe as a business-class upgrade).
There's a bus company called Cabin which is doing the berth solution that started last year, with express service between SF and Santa Monica. I tried it though and, well, it's a *BUS*. The swaying and braking of the bus made me wake up in terror at night when going through construction zones and ESPECIALLY over Pacheco pass when the bus tried to pass semi trucks on curves. This would not have been a problem if there were a California night train. =(
From what I have seen, the eventual plan is to have a "Coast Daylight" train that leaves about 3 hours ahead of the Coast Starlight in each direction and later, when train capacity on the line is expanded, to have an evening/overnight train running in each direction as well. Adding these trains is probably something that should have been done a long time ago in order to reconnect San Francisco with a direct Amtrak rail link to the rest of the network. CalTrain is a good service but it is rather difficult to use if you are traveling with a lot of luggage.
If they could improve the trackage on the northern half of the route enough to get rid of delays, you could have SF have a branch that attaches at San Jose like the Empire Builder's Portland branch. You would have to make sure that any rolling stock was compatible with electrification (which is happening soon, even if the DTX tunnel is way in the future).
Great video
The Pacific Surfliner could be a great success for Amtrak especially with the new SC-44’s coming in. The best way Amtrak can increase ridership on this route is faster travel time. Brightline is doing great and it’s top speed hasn’t even been reached so if Amtrak makes a move here upgrade the rails because the P42 is getting old and the SC-44 will get older and we will have faster locomotives. This is the beginning of a new high speed route that will hopefully be better than that Acela thing.
could you do an ep20 on metrolink or amtraks p42 and p40's
I'm hoping to do P40s and P42s either later this year or early next!
I love to see lots more train videos
I film the Amtrak Pacific Surfliner at the Santa Fe station in San Diego from beginning of the film and it left the platform and station but one of the F59 locomotives is parked at the station.
Great job mike i like Amtrak Pacific surfiner
THIS IS THE BEST AMERICAN RAILWAY TH-cam VIDEO EVER! YES, MAKE WAY FOR THE FUTURE!!!!! :-D
It may not be contributing much to the conversation, but the Pacific Surfliner put out this video timelapse of the train from San Diego to LA (and another from LA to SLO) th-cam.com/video/PPbTYFAFAic/w-d-xo.html
I wish the other state corridor trains would make similar videos :) would be awesome to see!
Do you one on Metrolink‘s trains history and future for the F125 locomotive
Wow 😮 amazing! Thanks for train talk
You should do a future train talk episode about famous locomotives of the past, for example Stephenson's Rocket, The Flying Scotsman and The Mallard.
I like that, I may just have to do that one of these days.
Good stuff! Hoping to ride one when I'm in Cali this Summer!
Great video Mike! By the time the Chargers come, it might be uprated to 110 MPH, or 125. I am going railfanning on the 15th of June. What is your favorite part of the Surfliner?
My favorite part is probably the cliff side running in Del Mar. Thanks!
nice video nice view
Thx for making a video about this route!
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I am a new fan
I love train talk!!!! MORE!!!!
First Friday of just about every month!
Excellent presentation!
Thank you, Rob!
Would you do a video about Train Numbers? It's an interesting topic that most casual railfans like me don't really understand.
That's a great idea!
463s horn has sure evolved. Its currently on the Cascades.
Yeah, it really has.
should do a talk about the capital corridor. I hear of some interesting expansions for it in the future.
That's got to be a real nice ride. 😎
Trainfan's here!!!!
Great video!
I wonder when the new Chargers will be delivered.
Good job
you should do a train talk about the Amtrak Cascades service, or the other Amtrak California service
nice, i like the surfliners thx for this :D
Thanks Mike! Great Video 👍
Awesome Video Mike
Man this is some great info! Keep up the good work!
Super video!
I would like to learn more about the future of Amtrak Pacific surf liner👍😁
3:07 Minus the "S U R F L I N E R" lettering.
3:08
Wow nice
I hope they can electrify the route at least between San Diego and LA so that electric trains can run on the line, if it is the second busiest corridor it should be electrified. Then they could possibly bring the Acela there when the Avelia Liberty enters service.
Superb!
Can you do a video on bells? And please include VIA Rail and GO Transit!
Include VIA and GO in a video about bells or some other video?
CoasterFan2105 Preferably bells but whatever works for you! Thanks!!
Can you do a train talk about fallen flags and vintage diesels
I'm sure I will be doing something like that eventually!
Awesome Video!!
0:39 a consist without any Superliner cars, though it would never be possible.
The f59phis are going to be used on the Metra trains.
It’s a shame those Chargers won’t be able to stretch their legs on the Surfliner route. There aren’t even any possibilities for curve straightening either, since The whole route is between the ocean and Pacific Coast Highway. I spend a lot of time in Santa Barbara and it’s a shame the service will never have high-speed potential.
Nice video Mike any idea when the single level cars for Amtrak will come??
Do train talk about the Capital Corridor as well as the San Joaquin.
I'm curious as to what's spurring the investment in single-level passenger cars as opposed to bi-level. I mean, as you said, to introduce those to the Pacific Surfliner would only reduce capacity it would seem (or I could be wrong?), so I'd assume they would be prioritised towards the San Joaquins or Capitol Corridor services. Would love to hear your thoughts on it! :)
Also, not telling you what "you should be making videos on", but I'd be excited to see videos on the other two California-supported routes ^_^ either way, awesome videos :) thanks!
I believe the reasoning is because I'm not entirely certain if the cars are actual full bilevel cars like the ones used in commuter service. The Surfliner cars seem to be descendants of Santa Fe's Hi-Level cars (via the Superliners of course) and mainly act as elevated cars with the passenger section further up to reduce sound from the wheels on the track. Now, I could be wrong, but I'm not sure how much of a capacity change there is between an Amfleet I and a Surfliner car
You're largely correct. The California Car (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Car_(railcar)) coaches seat 89 + 1 wheelchair, the Pacific Surfliner Car (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfliner_(railcar)) coaches seat 90, while Amfleet (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amfleet) seats 84.
I believe the single-level cars CalTrans plans on purchasing are the same as the ones on Brightline (Siemens), though I could be wrong. Either way, it seems it won't impact the capacity too much...but I do personally like the bi-level cars ^_^ though I am sure there are probably some good arguments against them (banking perhaps?).
I’m pretty sure the new single-level cars are for the San Joaquin and Capitol Corridor trains. Yes, it does seem like they will decrease capacity but it’s possible that there will be more cars per train to make capacity about the same.
True. And my personal hypothesis is that they're doing this in part for compatibility with the HSR stations in Fresno, Bakersfield, etc, since those will have elevated platforms and all. But that could be grasping for straws.
I’m also wondering if they will have new cab-cars too. Or will they use two locomotives on each train? There’s some concept art online that has an SC-44 with windows about halfway down the length of the “locomotive” that I think will be the new cab-cars.
I think it would be convenient the electrification of the line.
David Arturo Jaimes Caltrain is already working on it!
CalRail University it's because of emissions. To my knowledge, it's only for double decker commuter trains
There’d be no point in electrifying the line since they have the new SC-44’s coming in.
Jacob Hofer they must have a reason since they've started already. I believe they purchased some aem7
You’re talking about CalTrain in Northern California. The Pacific Surfliner is located in Southern California. Yes, CalTrain is electrifying their route, but I’m pretty sure there are no plans to electrify the Surfline.
Do train talk episode about the zephyr
Do light rail and subway
Got a JetBlue ad at the beginning
Love the video! How good is the on time performance? I might take the surfliner from Los angeles to santa barbara next march
Talk about the history of Metrolink
please give more info about the new single level passenger cars from siemens because I DONT WANT THEM TO REPLACE THE BI LEVEL SURFLINER CARS :(
They won't replace the bilevels, just add to them. It was originally supposed to be an order for more bilevels but Nippon Sharyo, the company that was going to build them, could not build a strong enough cab car so the contracted out to Siemens to build single level cars instead.
CoasterFan2105 that's good to know but will they rebuild Surfliner cab car #6902
Do capital Corredor next
No Sheldon Cooper in the comments section? I guess his IQ is a lie as well...
Now I got to go watch the steam and bullet trains as they are my favorites.
Hey coaster, quick question. Can you talk about Amtrak’s Empire Service?
Another wonderful video and even though I've made my choice like everyone else I think we can all agree that with videos like this ,nomatter what video is voted next all options in the voting are to be done at some point.
Yes, all of them will be done eventually! Thanks!
The surfliner is nice, but it's always expensive. Now I'm not some cheap person, but I don't think it's worth spending $115 both ways from LA to San Diego for 2 people (In my opinion). Why is it pricier than the commuter trains I would sometimes take and are like 40-50% cheaper?
Great video btw.
p.s. why are they building a san diego yard?
Thanks! They want to have a place to store the trains other than at the station. I'm not sure what the exact reason but presumably at a maintenance facility, they could store extra equipment, have a "wash rack" to wash the trains when needed and more.
CoasterFan2105 oooo thanks sounds goood. And what about the prices of the train tickets
Because the Surfliner offers more amenities and less stops than Metrolink. A commuter rail like Metrolink is not going to offer reclining seats, free Wi-Fi, cafe car, more legroom, business class, etc. when its job is to simply transport commuters from the suburbs to employment centers. The Surfliner, being an inter-city train which caters to travelers, tourists, and leisure riders, relies heavily on speed, comfort, and amenities to sell tickets. All of those things are not cheap to provide, that's why the Surfliner's tickets are more expensive.
SoCal Transportation Spotter Hmm makes sense. Thanks!
Please can you do ACE (Altamont Corridor Express) train videos please?
Hoping to do one this winter!
Instead of just making a video of the P42DC, you should do a video on General Electric's entire Genesis series of locomotives.
That's what I'm planning on doing!