Really like your reviews...your editing skills and consistency with methods are superior. Just received my Cheetah couple days ago and got in a good ride today. You are spot on that this model is for a bigger person, I am such at 6"2, 300 lbs and had some extra weight in rear rack bag with lock, water, lunch, tools. Got about 33 miles out of the single 48V/16AH battery using various levels of pedal assistance pretty much the entire way of a largely flat run along the Mississippi River (Alton to Grafton, IL). About 3 of those 33 were not planned and offroad as I found a wildlife reserve access "road", otherwise it was paved. Too bad I needed 34 miles as I failed to factor in headwind coming back...rookie mistake, plus I pushed it with the offroad detour. That last mile into wind was rough with no juice left.. Smooth ride, heavy, powerful, fun!
Tailhappy thank you for your reviews. I have watched most of your reviews on E-Bikes, they are very thorough. I ended up buying a Cheetah which is a very cool bike, Thanks again!
Good morning, I am going to purchase this bike because of you review. I am also going to let Haoqi know that it is becaues of your review that I am doing this. Thank you for such a complete review.
Sweet! Prepare for a fun summer 🤙⚡️ If you use this link before you buy it'll help my channel out: bit.ly/Cheetah-Coupon - $400 off currently + Coupon code: TailHappyTV20 happy riding!
Hello My Friend! I subscribed to your channel just a couple of weeks ago. I'm very impressed with all your testing techniques and the way you travel the same paths for every E-Bikes. I've watched many, many videos of people testing these bikes and you are 100 times better than all of the others I've watched!! I love the way you show everything from opening the box to Hill climbing to beach sand and many other places you travel!!! You have really helped me on deciding which bike to purchased in the near future. Keep up the great work you are doing and don't change a thing! From Alabama, Thank You!!!
Well this has certainly been an interesting watch TailHappy!! A full suspension ebike with fenders and a back rack for $1799.00?? Now that seems quite impressive indeed. But I was expecting to hear that the weight of this Cheetah was over 90 pounds, not under. As I have heard other reviewers speak negatively regarding the extra weight associated with a typical soft-tail suspension frame. Not sure why though. Unless they normally ride people-powered bicycles. Either way, I just hit the LIKE button, and clicked that SUBSCRIBE button. Thanks for your time'n effort!!!
Cool bike! Thanks for a great review! 90nm suggests about 25A controller? Your TailHappy discount makes it $1599 for a whole lotta 26" 25AH Full Suspension ebike!
Love your content and reviews one of the best out there you manage to keep my interest throughout the whole video and I got the shortest attention span lol
One battery is working for most of the time, because if one battery gets to a higher voltage than the other, the higher volts would pour into the other battery that is lower, unless a diode blocks one battery ‘charging’ the other instead of providing motor power. So each battery has a diode, that is a one way voltage flow control.
Even w/single battery pack, Cheetah is a Beast! Searching for 2d bike. After seeing this video, kinda makes me Regret purchasing the 250W rear-hub city cruiser have now!-lol...Very nice, helpful submission!
correct, perhaps I made a error in my speech at some point in this video? more battery means more watt-hours total, which will actually help keep the voltage higher for longer (but not more total voltage)
Yes you're correct you do need one I have a great one from big game bikes also extends the range no idea how it does it but works great it's called the date dx2 not cheap but great
Really like your reviews it's very nice to have someone who's a similar size on these thing I've got 4000 miles on my Ecotric Leopard and I'm looking to upgrade that looks perfect for my Midwest commuting.
Excellent review, so no Torque sensing I assume as you mention the cadence sensor a couple of times. Looks like 2 piston brakes, not 4 piston, correct? Your road testing was excellent, great job! It's a great deal for a dual battery, full suspension eBike. Not sure about the hub motor as I have a mid-drive now and use the gears consistently. I'm not sure how the gears will work with a Hub drive motor.
Good through review. One of the few I don't feel is outright BSing. This bike is not bad w/the coupon price. Without it it's 'upper run of the mill' for a rating(yea I just made my own rating system) in my experienced opinion. But I'd say someone did well if they bought this for 1700. For that if you get a real 750w sustained, full suspension and hydro breaks and 25wh of battery that's not shit by any means.
Super sweet! TH-cam has been recommending you since i dropped a vid on my diy bike. We have similar shooting styles albeit I'm a noob! Also, you make me want to build more ebikes! 😅
Thanks for the detailed review. I too am tall at 6'4" so I was wondering about the seat height. I am comparing this bike to the Addmotor p-550. Seat height and range are big considerations for me as I am planning to commute from Buena Vista, CO where I live to Salida, CO where I work, a couple of times a week, and want to make sure it can make the 28-mile trip 800-foot descent to work 800-foot ascent returning home. Gradual each way. Your review has me leaning toward the Haoki. I was told that the proper Asain pronunciation is Hi-Key. Thanks again!
Hey Tailhappy - Thanks for all of your excellent, concise and entertaining reviews! Question: I'm 6.5 tall too: in your opinion would this be to short and or could it be modified to realistically accommodate a taller, long legs rider to extend or all most extend legs all of the way while peddling this monster bike? Thanks again!!
With all the e-bikes you review, do you ever have any qualms about battery fires? Some of those battery’s are not UL rated and I noticed you charge them in your apartment. Ever have any issues? I watch your videos when I also get e-bikes to review, so thanks for the work you do.
I'm trying to decide... could you please tell me what bike would you rather have this bike on this video or the magicycle ? It's a hard choice or is it worth just getting the wired freedom and be done with it? The only concern I have is witch one of these three bikes is easy to find parts and repair locally if needed? I appreciate your channel and like the work you do thank you....
Hmm.. I wonder if this bike has better feeling suspension and ride quality than the Wired Freedom?. I know power wise the Wired Freedom is way more powerful.. But ride wise and feature quality wise I would only be guessing which is nicer .. Both priced the same.
I have not tried the Freedom yet, but the suspension on this bike felt great compared to most bikes I’ve reviewed under $2k. I think the way the rear suspension pivots the way it does contributes a lot to the mechanical leverage.
Just wanted to know if anyone knows what kind of lubricant is needed for the front forks. When should it be serviced. And where can I access this to fill it if needed ? I owned the Cheetah for one year this month. But I was curious if anyone had any information on this. My other issue is. The front led light. It's connected. But not sure if it's working. I can see from pressing the button to activate it appears on the display. The rear brake light works. But the front for some reason doesn't.
Hey Matt i just purchased this bike. Do you know how to take the speed limiter off? I watch all your vids! Still not test ride of the fucare bikes? I recommend the manufacturer contact you.
Nice honest review. This is how they all should be. I'm not saying that they are all dishonest but the reviews that are done by the company that makes the bikes usually aren't as they are usually very misleading when it comes to range. If you want to know the true colors you have to go to the reviews that are honest and there are some out there. This guy's good and citizen cycles is another one. There are a few. The bikes you have to stay away from are the ones that you don't see reviews on by these guys that are honest. A lot of reviews you see on company website's are total bullshit. I think they write their own just from my own personal experiences. Anyway, good review man.
Thank you, my goal is to show the facts and deliver a real and honest review of each bike. Like you’re saying, I noticed there was a real need for this kind of content after seeing what’s out there
That electric bike is amazing for the price because of its huge watt hours capacity. Over 1,200 watt hours if you buy the bike for $2k. There’s a good electric bike I know of that’s slightly cheaper at $1,899 but it only provides 1,040 watt hours and that’s Magicyle Cruiser Pro. I say HAOQI Cheetah is a better bang for the bucks than the Magicycle. Quite hard to beat HAOQI Cheetah at its given price point.
Love the review. I have a question you might be able to answer. Let's say the battery runs out. Given the heft of this bike, how easy is it to ride without a battery charge?
I found out today...battery came up a mile short on my ride (because I failed to compensate for downwind out/headwind back). It's doable not desireablee, just glad it was flat. I always wondered what gears 1-2 were for...now I know!
I ordered a Cheetah on 8/1/23. Today is two weeks later, 8/15/23, and Haoqi hasn't shipped it. I've emailed them a handful of times, and they keep promising to ship it, but they have broken that commitment on at least three different days, the last being on 8/13. I emailed them that morning for an update. The next day they emailed me to say they'd ship it "within this week." If they don't, I'll probably cancel the order and order a Cyrusher Montta or a Freesky Wild Cat instead even though their batteries are rated at lower WH. Clearly Haoqi didn't have this bike in stock when I ordered it, and unlike companies with more integrity (like Wired, for instance) they didn't add that essential fact to their ordering page. That's not honest.
Great Review. I have an ebike question, I'm on heavy side, most people think it's fine to move from a start on throttle only. I'm thinking that's hard on components, you need to shift down to start off using lower gear to get bike in motion. What's your thoughts.
Mid drive it will definitely help, hub drive it does not go thru the drive train. Regardless, yes, human power and help will always take the strain off your components
I always pedal up hills because I'm afraid of putting too much strain on my bike lol. Plus if I pedal hard up the hills the bike doesn't slow down anywhere near as much
You need two motors for sand or grass riding. Two batteries means half current in each battery and its wiring. Energy lossess are going with square of current, but there is internal resistance and VOLTAGE SAG . So combining batteries you can have voltage increase few volts at full power. You loose on diodes combining bats 0.3 to 0.5V depend on load but sag reduced 1 to 3V plus reduction of voltage drops on contact s and cabling. Could be up to 5V reduction in drop of voltage with 2 bats plus reduction of heat. For 750W motor not so critical to have 2 bats. Mid drive 1000W or 2 x 750W bikes it is critical to have 2 bats. On flat you ride 100W to 400W what is 15% of mid drive motor very ineficient , bats ok . Eficiency low and there are lossess on the chain. With 2 bats you will get much better performance of mid drive longer run on higher power. One bat 20-28km/h 2 bats 25-35km/h for few hours with avg speed rised 5+km/h ( includes stops) what is huge difference for ebike. At higher power 500W plus 25-35km/h ride MOTOR MUCH MORE EFFICIENT , IN CASE ONE BAT , BAT INEFICIENT SAGGING AND HEATTING UP. SO WITH 2 BATS MUCH LESS SAGGING AND HEATTING INTERNALLY LONGER LIFE AND HAPPY BAT. 1000W with 1500W peak can take 30A+ discharge from single bat which is recommended to be charged with 2A and max 3A????? Do we really want 30+A discharge rate can that cause fast aging or maybe fire and explosion. Realy should no go more than 10A over very short time keep 6A or less for continuos ride. Life is about economy and efficiency, beach sand offroad riding is expensive. 750W peak 1200W can be 15 to 25A still 2 bats can help at powers over 600W , 6A each bat. Probably good healty discharge up to 6A. Over 10A to go on longer time not very good buildup of heat dropping performance of bats. When I had one bat on mid drive 1000W was underperfoming 15 to 20%, when put 2 bats become 95+% what I expected before bought it, still issue with torque sensor power control not efficient as 750W hub motor with pas fixed to speeds. Cannot run fast over hill must put serious effort when hub can go easier just with fast pedalling low press.
Thanks for the great reviews. I am going to be a first time ebike purchaser. How wet ( or damp ) can the electric motors tolerate before problems occur? Do the spokes, where the hub motor attaches, come loose and cause future problems ? Thanks. Im leanig towards the Haqoi cheeta over the Aventon adventure 2. Thanks Enjoy your rides :)
I am not sure about the waterproofing abilities, it will probably vary from manufacturer. There's an IPX rating to indicate how "waterproof" they are, however, I have no firsthand experience I can speak of
If there's no problems with manufacturing/design (this goes for all commercial ebikes) then the electrics on your bike will be able to withstand all the natural elements that the skies throw at it. But you must avoid submerging any of it, And don't use a power hose when cleaning. If rain is at prolonged monsoon level, Try not to leave your bike sat in the open! lol
I live in Michigan and have had a much cheaper hubmotor ebike for almost four thousand miles that I've written through all the elements with zero problems electronically if that helps
I have just purchased one of these Cheetah's and need help setting the parameters to have the bike capable of doing twenty-eight mph. Can anyone out here assist me with this?
Great video but that thing is a toy compaired to my AOSTIRMOTOR Electric Bike S18 1500W Mountain Ebike 48V 15Ah Removable Lithium Battery 4.0 Fat Tire Ebike Beach Cruiser Bike does 30 miles an hour and goes up hills no problem
Have you tried the full suspension Wired Freedom? 60v 40amp controller with 1200 wh battery. Goes almost 40 mph. Do you only review bikes that pay you a commission?
2 reasons, camera angle for viewer is better when seat is lower, and also at 6'5" sometimes the seat post isn't long enough for me. I try to show the max and min seat height in each video to show what you can expect.
Hi I absolutely love you're videos but would love to see you build a bike with a bafang bbs02 48v. I have one it's a hill climbing beast 120nm. Get on it 😆 🤣
Thanks! I actually did a custom Bafang bbshd build on this channel 6 years ago before ebikes were "a thing"! 😆 feel free to check it out but please be warned... my content quality was horrible back then: th-cam.com/video/StqAy7TWTqs/w-d-xo.html
Very similar overall. I reviewed the deer on this channel too. The deer has one large battery. The deer is more of a cruiser and this is more of a mountain bike.
Hiya. Nice videos I must say. I'm 6ft and weigh 130kg. Could you please recommend an ebike for me that is reasonable on price? I've been searching for weeks now
angels landing in Zion, and half dome in Yosemite 😉 I know what you meant, bikes, not hikes 😆 that's a tough question to answer because it really just depends on what you want out of your ride. I still think the Nomad 1 from velotric is one of the best fat tire ebikes out there all around considering hill climbing, comfort, weight, range. But it doesn't have full suspension or dual batteries like the Haoqi. Nomad 1 review on my channel: th-cam.com/video/11BSjoJ0VZo/w-d-xo.html
throttle should work in PA 0. PA isnt the safest thing for certain circumstances like offroad and around crowds. also there are times when a rider may need to get away from a robber, traffic, dog etc. whiskey throttling is far lesss of a concern than whiskey pedaling and not being able to throttle away from danger.
Good point, it def is a trade off there on throttle active on all modes or not. One bike I reviewed had a button for the throttle right next to the throttle
Like this bike....😂 Still early days in the uk for these type of bikes ,would have to import them and most companies not doing Europe at the moment 😢. I like your reviews but as I'm a tall guy too is ther a reason you always have the seat too low?...you make these bikes look way too small for taller guys??....
Yes there is a reason, better filming angle😆. I mention it in some videos, but if I have the seat high up it tends to point the camera down more, which is better for riding but worse for the viewer
This is false. Lectric came out with a folding, dual battery, full suspension bike with a mid-drive motor and torque sensors like 8 months ago and it's currently going for about $1,600.
This is how you unlock the full speed on the GD06 display. Turnbike on, within 5 seconds. Press the brake five times exactly and then hold up and down for 45 seconds. This will open the advanced menu. Once you do this cheat code once you can simply just press up and down for 15 seconds to open the menu anytime after
2 thousand dollars and you get 1 single 2 amp charger? I wouldn't touch this brand. That is awful decision making. They have the nerve to charge 2 grand, brag about battery size and the fact you get 2z and then give the cheapest possible recharging method. Pass
Still a 1800 dollar bike. With all the talk about pricing. I was thinking it was gonna be around 1000 or less. 1800 is getting pretty expensive to the average person.
My honest review of Haoqi is not a good one considering they have refused to honor their warranty. I paid $2000 dollars for the dual battery cheetah back in Jan 2023 and it’s had some issues from day one. They sent me a controller panel, assembly cable and a throttle cable and the motor still won’t power one. They have no bike shops in the USA that will trouble electricity issues on their bikes. I’ve sent them videos proving the bike is still not functioning properly and they just keep wanting to sent me parts. This is ridiculous. You’ve been warned if you buy a bike from this company they will not honor their warranty
Poor Value, it's interesting looking at a new niche marketplace like Ebikes and realizing how, certain makes and models give you a lot more for your money than others.
I have a $5,100. E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown 2 wheel drive, 2 battery and dual suspension mountain bike and yeah, 95 firkin''pounds but hey, that'swhat it takes to have a hunting bike that will take you into the back country with a 400 pound load capacity for hauling you and boned out elk meat back to your camp. Compare the features and quality of these two bikes. The E-CELLS will win.
Especially if you get(and you should)have Tanus wheel liners. Not sure if you've tried them man but I did not expect to have them make the ride that damned soft. I thought, yea some mention it helps but that and not maxing out your tire pressure like many do is like poor man's full suspension. Haha. I got an open box set for my 26x4 tires for 73 bucks. Next to inserting a couple GPS pods in by bike it's the best money I spent on it.
@@jdgoesham5381 nope I was actually just looking at them and couldn't justify spending £70 a wheel well it happened last night finally after 600km I got a puncture 😅
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Really like your reviews...your editing skills and consistency with methods are superior. Just received my Cheetah couple days ago and got in a good ride today. You are spot on that this model is for a bigger person, I am such at 6"2, 300 lbs and had some extra weight in rear rack bag with lock, water, lunch, tools. Got about 33 miles out of the single 48V/16AH battery using various levels of pedal assistance pretty much the entire way of a largely flat run along the Mississippi River (Alton to Grafton, IL). About 3 of those 33 were not planned and offroad as I found a wildlife reserve access "road", otherwise it was paved. Too bad I needed 34 miles as I failed to factor in headwind coming back...rookie mistake, plus I pushed it with the offroad detour. That last mile into wind was rough with no juice left.. Smooth ride, heavy, powerful, fun!
Tailhappy thank you for your reviews. I have watched most of your reviews on E-Bikes, they are very thorough. I ended up buying a Cheetah which is a very cool bike,
Thanks again!
Good morning, I am going to purchase this bike because of you review. I am also going to let Haoqi know that it is becaues of your review that I am doing this. Thank you for such a complete review.
Sweet! Prepare for a fun summer 🤙⚡️ If you use this link before you buy it'll help my channel out: bit.ly/Cheetah-Coupon - $400 off currently + Coupon code: TailHappyTV20
happy riding!
Hello My Friend! I subscribed to your channel just a couple of weeks ago. I'm very impressed with all your testing techniques and the way you travel the same paths for every E-Bikes. I've watched many, many videos of people testing these bikes and you are 100 times better than all of the others I've watched!! I love the way you show everything from opening the box to Hill climbing to beach sand and many other places you travel!!! You have really helped me on deciding which bike to purchased in the near future. Keep up the great work you are doing and don't change a thing! From Alabama, Thank You!!!
Thank you 🙏 🙏
Well this has certainly been an interesting watch TailHappy!! A full suspension ebike with fenders and a back rack for $1799.00?? Now that seems quite impressive indeed. But I was expecting to hear that the weight of this Cheetah was over 90 pounds, not under. As I have heard other reviewers speak negatively regarding the extra weight associated with a typical soft-tail suspension frame. Not sure why though. Unless they normally ride people-powered bicycles. Either way, I just hit the LIKE button, and clicked that SUBSCRIBE button. Thanks for your time'n effort!!!
yeah, I mean it's heavy and big, but that's what ya get with all the stuff on this bike. Thanks for watching!
Cool bike! Thanks for a great review! 90nm suggests about 25A controller? Your TailHappy discount makes it $1599 for a whole lotta 26" 25AH Full Suspension ebike!
Love your content and reviews one of the best out there you manage to keep my interest throughout the whole video and I got the shortest attention span lol
Thank you! I appreciate that 🙏
One battery is working for most of the time, because if one battery gets to a higher voltage than the other, the higher volts would pour into the other battery that is lower, unless a diode blocks one battery ‘charging’ the other instead of providing motor power. So each battery has a diode, that is a one way voltage flow control.
Even w/single battery pack, Cheetah is a Beast! Searching for 2d bike. After seeing this video, kinda makes me Regret purchasing the 250W rear-hub city cruiser have now!-lol...Very nice, helpful submission!
2 batteries doesn't mean more voltage it means they're running in parallel taking voltage from each battery at the same time
correct, perhaps I made a error in my speech at some point in this video? more battery means more watt-hours total, which will actually help keep the voltage higher for longer (but not more total voltage)
Why not just big battery bike. Wildeway wildway 😮
Blender essential or there could be a fire.
Yes you're correct you do need one I have a great one from big game bikes also extends the range no idea how it does it but works great it's called the date dx2 not cheap but great
More cells more A/H which means longer battery life.
Really like your reviews it's very nice to have someone who's a similar size on these thing I've got 4000 miles on my Ecotric Leopard and I'm looking to upgrade that looks perfect for my Midwest commuting.
What part of the Midwest? I’m from Indiana.
@@TailHappyTV central Michigan
@@barnyard9058 land of the lakes, beautiful summers
Excellent review, so no Torque sensing I assume as you mention the cadence sensor a couple of times. Looks like 2 piston brakes, not 4 piston, correct? Your road testing was excellent, great job! It's a great deal for a dual battery, full suspension eBike. Not sure about the hub motor as I have a mid-drive now and use the gears consistently. I'm not sure how the gears will work with a Hub drive motor.
Good through review. One of the few I don't feel is outright BSing.
This bike is not bad w/the coupon price. Without it it's 'upper run of the mill' for a rating(yea I just made my own rating system) in my experienced opinion. But I'd say someone did well if they bought this for 1700. For that if you get a real 750w sustained, full suspension and hydro breaks and 25wh of battery that's not shit by any means.
Super sweet! TH-cam has been recommending you since i dropped a vid on my diy bike. We have similar shooting styles albeit I'm a noob! Also, you make me want to build more ebikes! 😅
haha nice, I make me wanna build more ebikes too, can't find time!
Thanks for the detailed review. I too am tall at 6'4" so I was wondering about the seat height. I am comparing this bike to the Addmotor p-550. Seat height and range are big considerations for me as I am planning to commute from Buena Vista, CO where I live to Salida, CO where I work, a couple of times a week, and want to make sure it can make the 28-mile trip 800-foot descent to work 800-foot ascent returning home. Gradual each way. Your review has me leaning toward the Haoki. I was told that the proper Asain pronunciation is Hi-Key. Thanks again!
I'm picturing a solar panel on the rack and constant charging on a sunny day.
It wouldn’t charge much
It's a bike truck. Great review. Thanks!
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a pump is nice but it needs to come with a cover for the extra battery mount for when a second battery isnt needed like most of the time.
Good point in the battery cover, I didn’t think of that!
Hey Tailhappy - Thanks for all of your excellent, concise and entertaining reviews! Question: I'm 6.5 tall too: in your opinion would this be to short and or could it be modified to realistically accommodate a taller, long legs rider to extend or all most extend legs all of the way while peddling this monster bike? Thanks again!!
This felt fine for me, you could easily buy a longer seat post if you want a bit more let extension. Thanks for your kind words!
With all the e-bikes you review, do you ever have any qualms about battery fires? Some of those battery’s are not UL rated and I noticed you charge them in your apartment. Ever have any issues? I watch your videos when I also get e-bikes to review, so thanks for the work you do.
I definitely like the integrated batteries. I don't like the batteries being behind the seat between the wheel and the frame.
Do both batteries discharge in Parallel or is there a switch to save the small battery for a reserve fuel tank?
I'm trying to decide... could you please tell me what bike would you rather have this bike on this video or the magicycle ? It's a hard choice or is it worth just getting the wired freedom and be done with it? The only concern I have is witch one of these three bikes is easy to find parts and repair locally if needed? I appreciate your channel and like the work you do thank you....
Hmm.. I wonder if this bike has better feeling suspension and ride quality than the Wired Freedom?. I know power wise the Wired Freedom is way more powerful.. But ride wise and feature quality wise I would only be guessing which is nicer .. Both priced the same.
I have not tried the Freedom yet, but the suspension on this bike felt great compared to most bikes I’ve reviewed under $2k. I think the way the rear suspension pivots the way it does contributes a lot to the mechanical leverage.
Just wanted to know if anyone knows what kind of lubricant is needed for the front forks. When should it be serviced. And where can I access this to fill it if needed ? I owned the Cheetah for one year this month. But I was curious if anyone had any information on this.
My other issue is. The front led light. It's connected. But not sure if it's working. I can see from pressing the button to activate it appears on the display. The rear brake light works. But the front for some reason doesn't.
Nice review on this bike. Thanks.
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Whoa looks like it would be a great platform to convert to AWD
Agreed 100% , perfect front forks for it as the RST GUIDE are some of the few that are strong enough to support it.
Great points guys!
would you recommend this bike? or which bike do you recommend. some off road bike trails
Hey Matt i just purchased this bike. Do you know how to take the speed limiter off? I watch all your vids! Still not test ride of the fucare bikes? I recommend the manufacturer contact you.
Did you long-term test this bike? Updates? Thanks!
Nice honest review. This is how they all should be. I'm not saying that they are all dishonest but the reviews that are done by the company that makes the bikes usually aren't as they are usually very misleading when it comes to range. If you want to know the true colors you have to go to the reviews that are honest and there are some out there. This guy's good and citizen cycles is another one. There are a few. The bikes you have to stay away from are the ones that you don't see reviews on by these guys that are honest. A lot of reviews you see on company website's are total bullshit. I think they write their own just from my own personal experiences. Anyway, good review man.
Thank you, my goal is to show the facts and deliver a real and honest review of each bike. Like you’re saying, I noticed there was a real need for this kind of content after seeing what’s out there
That electric bike is amazing for the price because of its huge watt hours capacity. Over 1,200 watt hours if you buy the bike for $2k. There’s a good electric bike I know of that’s slightly cheaper at $1,899 but it only provides 1,040 watt hours and that’s Magicyle Cruiser Pro. I say HAOQI Cheetah is a better bang for the bucks than the Magicycle. Quite hard to beat HAOQI Cheetah at its given price point.
I thought it was a pretty decent value too, the suspension makes this bike ride so much nicer than a hard tail fat ebike
Great video. Helped me out with the programing. BTW my new one has plastic fenders on it.
Love the review. I have a question you might be able to answer. Let's say the battery runs out. Given the heft of this bike, how easy is it to ride without a battery charge?
Thank you for watching. realistically it's not one you will be riding without a charge
I found out today...battery came up a mile short on my ride (because I failed to compensate for downwind out/headwind back). It's doable not desireablee, just glad it was flat. I always wondered what gears 1-2 were for...now I know!
@@smilingjrt644 😆 how much range did you get before it died? Dual battery or single battery?
@@smilingjrt644 ,
I ordered a Cheetah on 8/1/23. Today is two weeks later, 8/15/23, and Haoqi hasn't shipped it. I've emailed them a handful of times, and they keep promising to ship it, but they have broken that commitment on at least three different days, the last being on 8/13. I emailed them that morning for an update. The next day they emailed me to say they'd ship it "within this week." If they don't, I'll probably cancel the order and order a Cyrusher Montta or a Freesky Wild Cat instead even though their batteries are rated at lower WH. Clearly Haoqi didn't have this bike in stock when I ordered it, and unlike companies with more integrity (like Wired, for instance) they didn't add that essential fact to their ordering page. That's not honest.
19 mph is a max speed?
Great Review. I have an ebike question, I'm on heavy side, most people think it's fine to move from a start on throttle only. I'm thinking that's hard on components, you need to shift down to start off using lower gear to get bike in motion. What's your thoughts.
Mid drive it will definitely help, hub drive it does not go thru the drive train. Regardless, yes, human power and help will always take the strain off your components
I always pedal up hills because I'm afraid of putting too much strain on my bike lol. Plus if I pedal hard up the hills the bike doesn't slow down anywhere near as much
How does it compare to the rip current model S?
I have not reviewed that bike yet
What's with the 26" wheels?!
You need two motors for sand or grass riding. Two batteries means half current in each battery and its wiring. Energy lossess are going with square of current, but there is internal resistance and VOLTAGE SAG .
So combining batteries you can have voltage increase few volts at full power.
You loose on diodes combining bats 0.3 to 0.5V depend on load but sag reduced 1 to 3V plus reduction of voltage drops on contact s and cabling.
Could be up to 5V reduction in drop of voltage with 2 bats plus reduction of heat.
For 750W motor not so critical to have 2 bats.
Mid drive 1000W or 2 x 750W bikes it is critical to have 2 bats.
On flat you ride 100W to 400W what is 15% of mid drive motor very ineficient , bats ok .
Eficiency low and there are lossess on the chain.
With 2 bats you will get much better performance of mid drive longer run on higher power.
One bat 20-28km/h 2 bats 25-35km/h for few hours with avg speed rised 5+km/h ( includes stops) what is huge difference for ebike.
At higher power 500W plus 25-35km/h ride MOTOR MUCH MORE EFFICIENT , IN CASE ONE BAT , BAT INEFICIENT SAGGING AND HEATTING UP. SO WITH 2 BATS MUCH LESS SAGGING AND HEATTING INTERNALLY LONGER LIFE AND HAPPY BAT.
1000W with 1500W peak can take 30A+ discharge from single bat which is recommended to be charged with 2A and max 3A?????
Do we really want 30+A discharge rate can that cause fast aging or maybe fire and explosion.
Realy should no go more than 10A over very short time keep 6A or less for continuos ride.
Life is about economy and efficiency, beach sand offroad riding is expensive.
750W peak 1200W can be 15 to 25A still 2 bats can help at powers over 600W , 6A each bat. Probably good healty discharge up to 6A.
Over 10A to go on longer time not very good buildup of heat dropping performance of bats.
When I had one bat on mid drive 1000W was underperfoming 15 to 20%, when put 2 bats become 95+% what I expected before bought it, still issue with torque sensor power control not efficient as 750W hub motor with pas fixed to speeds. Cannot run fast over hill must put serious effort when hub can go easier just with fast pedalling low press.
Thanks for the great reviews. I am going to be a first time ebike purchaser. How wet ( or damp ) can the electric motors tolerate before problems occur? Do the spokes, where the hub motor attaches, come loose and cause future problems ? Thanks. Im leanig towards the Haqoi cheeta over the Aventon adventure 2. Thanks Enjoy your rides :)
I am not sure about the waterproofing abilities, it will probably vary from manufacturer. There's an IPX rating to indicate how "waterproof" they are, however, I have no firsthand experience I can speak of
If there's no problems with manufacturing/design (this goes for all commercial ebikes) then the electrics on your bike will be able to withstand all the natural elements that the skies throw at it. But you must avoid submerging any of it, And don't use a power hose when cleaning. If rain is at prolonged monsoon level, Try not to leave your bike sat in the open! lol
Absolutely fine to ride In the rain, hub motors are sealed units. I have to ride quite often in wet conditions because I live in the UK.
I live in Michigan and have had a much cheaper hubmotor ebike for almost four thousand miles that I've written through all the elements with zero problems electronically if that helps
I have just purchased one of these Cheetah's and need help setting the parameters to have the bike capable of doing twenty-eight mph. Can anyone out here assist me with this?
Best guess 22 amp controller
Can you peddle it home if you lose battery power or the controller goes out ? Its alot lighter the than beecool adventure.
You certainly can, and you’ll get a darn good workout doing that
Great video but that thing is a toy compaired to my AOSTIRMOTOR Electric Bike S18 1500W Mountain Ebike 48V 15Ah Removable Lithium Battery 4.0 Fat Tire Ebike Beach Cruiser Bike does 30 miles an hour and goes up hills no problem
How would this do mountain biking up/down hills?
I mean, it's a lot of weight for "real" mountain biking, but light stuff it'd be fun
whats the difference between fat tire and skinny tire, if any? really curious
The tire size. Skinny is basically 32mm or less, fat is 4”
Have you tried the full suspension Wired Freedom? 60v 40amp controller with 1200 wh battery. Goes almost 40 mph. Do you only review bikes that pay you a commission?
I’ll have that bike in the channel soon! Looks dope but been hard to get my hands on one when I can’t afford to buy them all and store them all
do you think this able to be wheelied
Why do all these Ebike reviewers not have Proper Seat heights set? Love the videos / reviews but please work on the seat height for proper extension
2 reasons, camera angle for viewer is better when seat is lower, and also at 6'5" sometimes the seat post isn't long enough for me. I try to show the max and min seat height in each video to show what you can expect.
You are 6’5” . Nice this is actually large sized bike .
Hi I absolutely love you're videos but would love to see you build a bike with a bafang bbs02 48v. I have one it's a hill climbing beast 120nm. Get on it 😆 🤣
Thanks! I actually did a custom Bafang bbshd build on this channel 6 years ago before ebikes were "a thing"! 😆 feel free to check it out but please be warned... my content quality was horrible back then: th-cam.com/video/StqAy7TWTqs/w-d-xo.html
How does this compare to Magicycle Deer? Same, better, worse? Thanks!
Very similar overall. I reviewed the deer on this channel too. The deer has one large battery. The deer is more of a cruiser and this is more of a mountain bike.
Hi, so what's the average price for the duel batt cheetah
1.8K
Hiya. Nice videos I must say. I'm 6ft and weigh 130kg. Could you please recommend an ebike for me that is reasonable on price? I've been searching for weeks now
What kind of riding do you intend to do / use it for?
@@TailHappyTV work and back everyday (3 miles) and 6-12miles on weekends. Both have mix of grass and tarred roads. In uk
@@TailHappyTV hello
Sorry man, I feel like this would be a good option for you: th-cam.com/video/PpkxTPRLdw0/w-d-xo.html
So with all the bikes you have tried , what are your 2 favorites?
angels landing in Zion, and half dome in Yosemite 😉
I know what you meant, bikes, not hikes 😆
that's a tough question to answer because it really just depends on what you want out of your ride.
I still think the Nomad 1 from velotric is one of the best fat tire ebikes out there all around considering hill climbing, comfort, weight, range. But it doesn't have full suspension or dual batteries like the Haoqi. Nomad 1 review on my channel: th-cam.com/video/11BSjoJ0VZo/w-d-xo.html
Check out the Wired Freedom. Looks like the best bang for the buck out there around this price range.
On the hill test it almost died! And you think that’s good? Hmmm
What is your favorite ebike under 1000
The hiniway would do that grade no prob
great vid...peace out
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throttle should work in PA 0. PA isnt the safest thing for certain circumstances like offroad and around crowds. also there are times when a rider may need to get away from a robber, traffic, dog etc.
whiskey throttling is far lesss of a concern than whiskey pedaling and not being able to throttle away from danger.
Good point, it def is a trade off there on throttle active on all modes or not. One bike I reviewed had a button for the throttle right next to the throttle
How much?
Like this bike....😂
Still early days in the uk for these type of bikes ,would have to import them and most companies not doing Europe at the moment 😢.
I like your reviews but as I'm a tall guy too is ther a reason you always have the seat too low?...you make these bikes look way too small for taller guys??....
Yes there is a reason, better filming angle😆. I mention it in some videos, but if I have the seat high up it tends to point the camera down more, which is better for riding but worse for the viewer
This is false. Lectric came out with a folding, dual battery, full suspension bike with a mid-drive motor and torque sensors like 8 months ago and it's currently going for about $1,600.
Show me a bike that comes with a mom driving it and I’ll buy it at any price
Liking it, but as say you say later in the vid, has a cadence sensor. Disappointed.
What's wrong with cadence sensors? At higher speeds you can't even pedal fast enough to input any torque
Possibly one day but full transparency I don't have either of those 2 models in the works right now
This is how you unlock the full speed on the GD06 display.
Turnbike on, within 5 seconds. Press the brake five times exactly and then hold up and down for 45 seconds. This will open the advanced menu. Once you do this cheat code once you can simply just press up and down for 15 seconds to open the menu anytime after
Get to the point how much does it cost how fast will go
good bike
Strange MC's from Harley? You need to include the Harley Aermacchi adventure.
Wow, love this idea. Thank you!
I fill like your tryn to sell me this bike. Lets just get an honest review
I love Santa Monica.
2 thousand dollars and you get 1 single 2 amp charger?
I wouldn't touch this brand. That is awful decision making. They have the nerve to charge 2 grand, brag about battery size and the fact you get 2z and then give the cheapest possible recharging method.
Pass
a bigger, or adjustable amperage charger would be nice but at least slow charging preserves the battery lifespan
Still a 1800 dollar bike. With all the talk about pricing. I was thinking it was gonna be around 1000 or less. 1800 is getting pretty expensive to the average person.
$1k for all this would be the deal of the year, def not cheap but decent value compared to what many companies are offering
I guess we have different opinions on what affordable is. $2000 can buy you a used car.
This bike would probably be more reliable and less maintenance expenses
My honest review of Haoqi is not a good one considering they have refused to honor their warranty. I paid $2000 dollars for the dual battery cheetah back in Jan 2023 and it’s had some issues from day one. They sent me a controller panel, assembly cable and a throttle cable and the motor still won’t power one. They have no bike shops in the USA that will trouble electricity issues on their bikes. I’ve sent them videos proving the bike is still not functioning properly and they just keep wanting to sent me parts. This is ridiculous. You’ve been warned if you buy a bike from this company they will not honor their warranty
Ebikes are pretty simple. It's either a loose connection or the controller. My cheetah is running well so far.
I can ride an ordinary bike at that speed for nothing
You're 6'5"?? Sheesh..
I'm only 5'6" but i think i could handle it :)
If you believe, you can achieve 🤙
Bought at totem victor 2 that engine never turned on total trash theft. Lies..
lol its my himiway cobra.
wow dude speeding and dissing pedestrians
If you want ultra range you have to lose the fat tires and the dual suspension, that's just too much weight.
Poor Value, it's interesting looking at a new niche marketplace like Ebikes and realizing how, certain makes and models give you a lot more for your money
than others.
Dude, seriously throw away that cheap tire pump. Get yourself a battery 🔋 powered pump
😆 I bought that thing from Walmart 10 years ago, I may actually be getting a battery powered one soon
I have a $5,100. E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown 2 wheel drive, 2 battery and dual suspension mountain bike and yeah, 95 firkin''pounds but hey, that'swhat it takes to have a hunting bike that will take you into the back country with a 400 pound load capacity for hauling you and boned out elk meat back to your camp.
Compare the features and quality of these two bikes. The E-CELLS will win.
Full suspension on a fat bike is pointless you honestly don't need any suspension in my opinion
Especially if you get(and you should)have Tanus wheel liners. Not sure if you've tried them man but I did not expect to have them make the ride that damned soft. I thought, yea some mention it helps but that and not maxing out your tire pressure like many do is like poor man's full suspension. Haha. I got an open box set for my 26x4 tires for 73 bucks. Next to inserting a couple GPS pods in by bike it's the best money I spent on it.
@@jdgoesham5381 nope I was actually just looking at them and couldn't justify spending £70 a wheel well it happened last night finally after 600km I got a puncture 😅
You look too tall for that bike
I’m too tall for like every bike at 6’5”
A decent front shock cost as much as this bike. With that price you get Walmart quality. A pos.
It’s good for casual riders, it ain’t the Rolls Royce of e-bikes
Dont run Faster than my Car…👎🏾
My other bike might youtube.com/@JuicedJoyrides
@@TailHappyTV Whats your other Bike?
@@bernandoturner4840 see it on my other channel, has 20x the power of this
@@TailHappyTV how I get over there?
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Is that person testing the bike a dude or girl?
Don’t be jelly of my luscious locks
Could NOT watch ! All I wanted and was interested in was PERFORMANCE and COST ! Shoulda known better upon first sight of you !
Next time you’ll know better
its − $20.00 on the checkout -.-
Do you have a repair stand for these beasts! 🧰🛠️👨🏼🔧 Sounds like they require a lot of maintenance⁉️Thks
I don’t