Great job on going over the design and functions with the pros and cons . I was going to order a TK2020 to replace a 1400 three years ago but opted to upgrade the 1400 with a larger motor, power log turner, power log dog, basic setworks and finally the vertical log stops. It has been well worth the money.
Ive got an old mighty mite bandsaw mill about 1980 4post hyd.feed,band tension, up -down 30"cut 24' length 20' remote control i changed it from 3 phase to 18hp gas the only thing it needs is a hyd.log turner and loader but i use skid loaders for log turning paid 2.5k another1k for bearings and trailer axle used for 20 + years still working cutting beams for timber framework one of the best deals i made
That was my issue as well. The 2020 Saw was 14K higher than the 1620 one I recently received from TimberKing. It works great, but I miss the idea of a few additional hydraulic features, such as the log stops, up and down on the log dog, and the in and out of the blade guard and the Toe Boards. As this is more of a "hobby" saw at this point and one that I am learning on to fully understand the sawing business, it currently fits my needs, but the 2020 TK might be in my future...
I've run my buddy's timberking 2000 with the 37hp. The performance of the gas engine is a bit less than that of the diesel but not much. On larger logs, you kinda chase the RPMs, meaning you limit your cut speed based on the loading of the engine. I don't do that as much on the diesel due to the amount of torque the diesel produces. I'm going off rough numbers in my head, but the gas engine is around 50 ft lbs at around 3,000 rpm, whereas the diesel is at around 78 ft lbs at 2,300 rpm. The other big thing I like about the diesel is that there's a remote start on my operating console. The gas you have to reach up on the engine to choke it and turn the key on and off to start or stop it. That is a little thing, but it is something simple that should be on the operating console, in my opinion. My buddy has cut over 1500 hrs on his gas engine with little to no downtime. But one last thing that popped into my head is fuel economy. On a big job of cutting all day, he will go through 2 tanks of fuel easily, whereas on the diesel, maybe one every 2 days. Again, it's not a huge deal, but he carries a lot of fuel with him on a portable job. Hope this helps.
I have a sawmill with bunks made of a round 30mm steel and all of them are adjustable in the relation of the bed ralils. Never had a problem with sawdust on bunks.
Can you explain direct hydraulics further? Does the direct hydraulics use engine power needed to saw? Meaning reduced power to the blade while using hydraulics?
Cooks makes a fine sawmill, and we've owned one as well. I'm just not a fan of all the solenoid control valves. The direct hydraulics give a little more control and easier to troubleshoot if there's ever an issue.
I hope your sawmills from basic to commercial series doesn't only focus on bandsaw mills. As you know there are other styles of sawmills that work just as well (swing blade, circle, etc). I think TimberKing makes a great sawmill and certainly rivals anything that Woodmizer offers.
Correct, I talk about circle mills and swing blades, but mostly focus on the portable sawmills. A stationary commercial production mill is the ultimate platform for production
@@carlschmiedeke151 Probably not a terrible price if you intend to make a living off selling the lumber itself. I think the manual mills are for carpenters. A good board is worth some good money, but material value increases multiplicatively if you know how to actually refine the resource. I'd rather this guy/hydraulic mill owners get the money for mass production than some garbage company with infinite $.
What are the chances you would ever bring the mill to the wood? I knew some folks that had every intention of tow mill around but as they said after doing it that it's just so much easier to bring logs to mill as set up is such a PITA. A guy not far from me had a TK 2000 for a while but he sold it and replaced it with a Timber Buddy XP-380 out of PA. Oh my lord the mills are night and day speed wise. The Timber Buddy just chews through wood with it's 120 hp John Deer and none of the emission exhaust/filter. His blades are pricey but they are also big Timber Buddy has only 1 mill but you can customize it how ever you like. There is usually a new one up for auction somewhere. It's made by an Amish guy and they have no website. I saw one last year sell on auction for $60k but $70k would be normal. Set Works, powered tail, pretty much everything 120hp but the thing is BIG and Heavy
Have a 2019 1600. Log turner is the same. Has a hard time on 24" plus logs. Vertical log stops are a plus. Thank goodness you have a diesel. STAY away from kohler
Yes, you are correct. A sawmill is a big investment, and you still need a truck, trailer, tractor, etc. But for people looking for a 2nd job or something to do after retirement, it can be a way to be your own boss. My dad and I each run a sawmill buisness. I do mine on the side of my day job so my cutting is typically only on the weekends. I focus on the specialty custom cutting market where I cut posts, beams, mantels and bar and table tops. My day focuses more on the dimensional market for people building barns, fencing, and structural lumber (he can grade). I also am heavily involved in rebuilding a house where we added on a big addition. I've saved over 30k cutting all of my own lumber, beams, shelving, mantels and counter tops. So yes big initial investment but in the long run it can be profitable if you are able to reach into your areas market demand.
What is best? Depends on the price of course, but looking at the specs and the prices I found online I would say you are wrong. Trakmet TTP-600 looks better built, with a lot of german quality components, with a log roller and at a lower price from what I can see. th-cam.com/video/dd3Zeu4HLFc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fZVId_8foqBqB0nw
Nice job going over the mill. Best mill on the market, hands down.
Great job on going over the design and functions with the pros and cons . I was going to order a TK2020 to replace a 1400 three years ago but opted to upgrade the 1400 with a larger motor, power log turner, power log dog, basic setworks and finally the vertical log stops. It has been well worth the money.
Great video and overview of an awesome mill. TY
Excellent information, thank you so much!🙂🍃
Thanks for the link to Never a Dull Moment. I just subbed and watched them all.
Has anyone in the states ran any MAHOE MILLS ? Thx for the video
Very informative video. Yes, it was long and I missed the show 😉. But the info was thorough without rambling.
I see a sawmill in my future.
Ive got an old mighty mite bandsaw mill about 1980 4post hyd.feed,band tension, up -down 30"cut 24' length 20' remote control i changed it from 3 phase to 18hp gas the only thing it needs is a hyd.log turner and loader but i use skid loaders for log turning paid 2.5k another1k for bearings and trailer axle used for 20 + years still working cutting beams for timber framework one of the best deals i made
Absolutely the best full function portable mill on the market.
My 2020 diesel will be here in August 😊
Most interesting, you could be a salesperson for this machine.
*salesman. The opposite of saleswoman.
The 2020 will be my next mill like yours
The most amazing feature......"Let me pause real quick and make that dog stop." LOL
That was my issue as well. The 2020 Saw was 14K higher than the 1620 one I recently received from TimberKing. It works great, but I miss the idea of a few additional hydraulic features, such as the log stops, up and down on the log dog, and the in and out of the blade guard and the Toe Boards. As this is more of a "hobby" saw at this point and one that I am learning on to fully understand the sawing business, it currently fits my needs, but the 2020 TK might be in my future...
Have you used or seen performance of the 37hp VTwin gas vs the 24hp diesel. Curious as to the performance difference? $10K extra is tough.
I've run my buddy's timberking 2000 with the 37hp. The performance of the gas engine is a bit less than that of the diesel but not much. On larger logs, you kinda chase the RPMs, meaning you limit your cut speed based on the loading of the engine. I don't do that as much on the diesel due to the amount of torque the diesel produces. I'm going off rough numbers in my head, but the gas engine is around 50 ft lbs at around 3,000 rpm, whereas the diesel is at around 78 ft lbs at 2,300 rpm. The other big thing I like about the diesel is that there's a remote start on my operating console. The gas you have to reach up on the engine to choke it and turn the key on and off to start or stop it. That is a little thing, but it is something simple that should be on the operating console, in my opinion. My buddy has cut over 1500 hrs on his gas engine with little to no downtime. But one last thing that popped into my head is fuel economy. On a big job of cutting all day, he will go through 2 tanks of fuel easily, whereas on the diesel, maybe one every 2 days. Again, it's not a huge deal, but he carries a lot of fuel with him on a portable job. Hope this helps.
Thank you! That is exactly the kind of detail answer I’ve been looking for. Much appreciated.
Does anyone know the difference between the TK2020 and the TK2000? thank you
I have had both a 2000 and a 2020. I also have a video on it
th-cam.com/video/1retqWwpKzM/w-d-xo.html
Can you get a debarker for this mill?
I have a sawmill with bunks made of a round 30mm steel and all of them are adjustable in the relation of the bed ralils. Never had a problem with sawdust on bunks.
I would like to see you go over a 1620, I upped my order from a 1400 to the 1620. I agree that the 2020 is tops but price topped me out lol
Can you explain direct hydraulics further? Does the direct hydraulics use engine power needed to saw? Meaning reduced power to the blade while using hydraulics?
I should of waited for the answer before the in of video. Thanks.
its too bad that such a cool mill has a joey sippy cup bite me add !!!!! Love the mill (FJB)
Yeah, that's a shame. I have no control over what adds youtube puts up. I don't care for politics or politicians.... I like sawmills and the outdoors.
How much did timber king give you
I happy you can afford it.
Lt15 for 10k good deal?
I think so. Especially in this market. Does it have a lot of wear and tear. I liked mine and learned a lot on it.
@@TCSawmills Very little use, power feed with an extension. Just looked at it and bought it.
@KY-tp9en fantastic, you got a good deal. Saw safe and have fun with it. Owing your own sawmill opens up a world of possibilities.
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Boy when that wears out i bet you will go crazy always fixing it
There's a ton of moving parts/electronics after the honeymoon is over..
I did watch this, thanks. then I bought a Cooks.
Good decision
Cooks makes a fine sawmill, and we've owned one as well. I'm just not a fan of all the solenoid control valves. The direct hydraulics give a little more control and easier to troubleshoot if there's ever an issue.
I hope your sawmills from basic to commercial series doesn't only focus on bandsaw mills. As you know there are other styles of sawmills that work just as well (swing blade, circle, etc). I think TimberKing makes a great sawmill and certainly rivals anything that Woodmizer offers.
Correct, I talk about circle mills and swing blades, but mostly focus on the portable sawmills. A stationary commercial production mill is the ultimate platform for production
TK is years ahead of WM in design, WM needs to get rid of the claw turner, electric over hyd pumps and electric head feed
Its $60,000 if anyone is curious
That is ridiculously way over priced
@@carlschmiedeke151 Probably not a terrible price if you intend to make a living off selling the lumber itself. I think the manual mills are for carpenters. A good board is worth some good money, but material value increases multiplicatively if you know how to actually refine the resource. I'd rather this guy/hydraulic mill owners get the money for mass production than some garbage company with infinite $.
If you are a commercial sawyer, fine, the average 1 man hobbiest can't afford that
He literally said this is for a business
What are the chances you would ever bring the mill to the wood? I knew some folks that had every intention of tow mill around but as they said after doing it that it's just so much easier to bring logs to mill as set up is such a PITA. A guy not far from me had a TK 2000 for a while but he sold it and replaced it with a Timber Buddy XP-380 out of PA. Oh my lord the mills are night and day speed wise. The Timber Buddy just chews through wood with it's 120 hp John Deer and none of the emission exhaust/filter. His blades are pricey but they are also big Timber Buddy has only 1 mill but you can customize it how ever you like. There is usually a new one up for auction somewhere. It's made by an Amish guy and they have no website. I saw one last year sell on auction for $60k but $70k would be normal. Set Works, powered tail, pretty much everything 120hp but the thing is BIG and Heavy
Put a tape measure on them
Have a 2019 1600. Log turner is the same. Has a hard time on 24" plus logs. Vertical log stops are a plus. Thank goodness you have a diesel. STAY away from kohler
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7000 lb axle is 8 lug. That 6 lug is 5,200 lb axle..
Looks like I'm too poor to saw my own lumber. 😂 $3-$5-$10-$30k+!!!!😮😮😢 Aaand you need ancillary equipment too!! Thats like a $100k total investment.
Yes, you are correct. A sawmill is a big investment, and you still need a truck, trailer, tractor, etc. But for people looking for a 2nd job or something to do after retirement, it can be a way to be your own boss. My dad and I each run a sawmill buisness. I do mine on the side of my day job so my cutting is typically only on the weekends. I focus on the specialty custom cutting market where I cut posts, beams, mantels and bar and table tops. My day focuses more on the dimensional market for people building barns, fencing, and structural lumber (he can grade). I also am heavily involved in rebuilding a house where we added on a big addition. I've saved over 30k cutting all of my own lumber, beams, shelving, mantels and counter tops. So yes big initial investment but in the long run it can be profitable if you are able to reach into your areas market demand.
If this thing is really $60.000, that is ridiculously way over priced
They are all over priced no matter which one you buy
What is best? Depends on the price of course, but looking at the specs and the prices I found online I would say you are wrong. Trakmet TTP-600 looks better built, with a lot of german quality components, with a log roller and at a lower price from what I can see. th-cam.com/video/dd3Zeu4HLFc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fZVId_8foqBqB0nw
It's a nice mill but I don't think that he has inspected and/or watched a Mahoe Supermill.
You sound like you're constantly out of breath. Makes it a bit weird to listen to.
Listen to something else.
@@georgeseymour7116 People make fun of me in my videos too, and rightfully so. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.