Using the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, 7 years later - Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 the last Note phone from the classic, plastic era of Samsung, and from the faux leather backing to the gorgeous display let's see how this 7 year old phone holds up in 2021!
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0:00 - Introduction
0:37 - Noteworthy Note 4
2:39 - Design
6:45 - Camera & Hardware
11:18 - Conclusion
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We should start a petition for Samsung to bring back the leather backing. Each like on the video = one signature.
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Hi josh thank you I love your video
They should bring it back but as an addon
agreed
This must be the first video where you did the Samsung Galaxy Note line
Dude I saw the that black hellcat
I rocked this phone for 4 long years. The only thing that aged by 2019 was the camera.
Battery too, i had the edge version
@@breastmilkgaming Well luckily, we could swap the battery. I went through like 5.
Same issue camera got scratches
You kidding me that 16 megapixel still looks better than most photos I take today. At least better than most phones that I can afford today with supposedly better camera
I am still using it for my work phone.
I still have my Note 4. Every now and then I pull it out and tinker with it.
Im watching this video with my Note 4. XD
I have my old note 3 laying around, still not bad, did get android 10 on it with a custom ROM though
Of course it will never be as good as my Nord n10 lol
@@Neo18770 same lol
This is making me wanna start collecting older smartphones again....
Dude...
Me too
Look at that thing!
Whats it like i collect pc parts
Well I'm about to sell my one haha
Take a look at a very interesting samsung phone then. Samsung Galaxy Beam
I never traded in a phone. I have my first cell all the way to my last.
"7 years later"
That really hit me. I was in elementary school when this phone came out, and really wanted it. The screen and design captivated me, and I remember wanting it so bad. I ended up getting it in 2017 as a backup phone, and I loved it. The screen and cameras were definitely my favorite parts, along with clean design with metal frame. Good times.
i also got in 2017
Same for me but with the S5. Got one in 2016 and replaced the back with the S View
I was a sophomore in high school. I don’t remember the phone at all.
This thing was a beast. My girl had one while I had the G3. This was such a good year for phones. Also, it’s the year my first kid was born, so I might be a little biased.
So the note 4 seems aged better than the g3 m i rite? Maybe the features just compensate really well, especially s pen
@@baoquoc3710 well the Note4 is a higher end device than a G3 so I wouldn't be that surprised
@@baoquoc3710 No, my G3 still performs like a champ. The Note slowed down over time cuz that’s just what Samsung’s used to do
@@Garrettdx1988 I would say it's a tie. Note 4 was better spec'ed than LG G3, but LG G3 is much better supported by open source android. Even today, LG G3 is fully supported by LineageOS, where as Galaxy Note 4 was even never adopted by LineageOS (yes there are unofficial lineageOS rom for Note 4, but these are full of bugs and difficult to work with).
Let me tell you something Josh your presentation and videos your video quality is so good and the fact that you were so factual about everything you talk about makes such a good video always looking forward to the next video thank you for the Great content man
Thanks man, really appreciate it!
Zion, I agree. I'm new to this channel, but turns out I'd subscribed some time back and just don't remember. But honestly, the frame of reference Josh uses is so superior to all the big channels like Marques and Linus and Lew and a Slew of others who prioritize movie studio cinematography and annoying fan boyism to every single thing they do, and it's all for monetization, to push something good about every single device they review, which gives owners of whatever phones they're pushing a confirmation bias and hits of satisfactory dopamine to assure them they made good purchases.
I will say that Marques is a major cut above all the A-listers because he's mature enough now to be quite thoughtful and sobering at times and calling out bad design or functionality when he sees it. BUT -- at the same time he's completely in that framework of "always gotta have the newest, and newest is always better" and just over-amplifying the whole industry marketing scheme that badgers people into feeling like they are losers or missing out if your phone is over a year old, which a huge disservice, extremely elitist, and very PRO MONEY, aligned with all the tech bro's and their $125k to $250k annual salaries which gives them forever spending power to always grab the latest and greatest.
By contrast I really was amazed by Josh's more honest and non-market-driven phrasings that convey the true and accurate context that pretty much everything today is just derivative, whether they are making incremental or significant spec changes and upgrades: it's still the same basic experience. Browse web, message people, shoot images & videos, maybe edit your photos, and use all your favorite dumbass social media apps... which is to say, I could give a sh*t about all these latest and greatest breathless reviewers and the phones they are selling for youtube monetization and social cache being up on everything that's new.
Someone who comes at this from a more baseline sense of normalcy and, dare I say it, maybe even frugality, is far more valuable than people having to be seen as hawking every little Apple "triumph" as though the world has turned because of some upgrade to their earbuds. I think American consumer culture is vapid and venal. Most people have far more quality and specs that they could ever even begin to differentiate let alone USE in a meaningful way. ... sorry for verbosity but that's what I call a rock solid review without hype or feeding consumerism.
My favourite Samsung device, alongside the Note 7, Note9, S4 and S7 edge.
I also like the Note 7 because I can use it as an emergency bomb if someone breaks into my house or tries to steal my belongings as self protection.
@@embukun lmao
Note 7 is 🔥🔥🔥
jokes aside the note 7 was a great phone. I have an original one that I replaced the battery in with a note FE battery making it completely safe.
Of all the phones I have owned (quite a few), I loved my Note 4 the most. The removable back and replaceable battery were HUGE selling points for me. Stylus was good considering 2014's standards. As time went on, software aged pretty crappily. But I would argue that the screen is almost as good as that of my current S8. The Note 4 was my first phone and will forever remain legendary.
I still have this in perfect condition, and I dont think Ill ever be able to sell it. Its basically still perfectly usable for basic use, and the screen is still exceptional even by today's standards.
Put a custom ROM to give it new life.
and also thats a great flac player too ! i bought it to be mine music player
I kinda want one just to have it. Just brings back so much nostalgia for me
Made in 2014 and watching this vid in 2022. Eight good years and still rocking. I use it non-stop due to replaceable battery. Easily replacing battery when it runs low and I am instantly back to business. After Note 4 things went south.
I own this masterpiece for almost 3 years... Loved this phone alot... Great display great camera great spen compatibility 👍👍👍
I got this phone back in 2014. And used until 2019. Loved it 😃
did it die?
I purchased my Note 4 in 2015 and I'm still using it. 😨
Got mine in 2014 and still using it now as daily driver. LOL
@@Oscar_Charlie_Delta Same here. I bought the Note 4 in April 2015.
@@hoichiman2385 👍 😊
I had mine for years. Even up against today's screens it held up. Beautiful design and display.
I'm still using the Note 4, it's epic
I'm still using mine it freezes and delays alot recently I'm thinking about a note 9
Yeah I'm still using mine, but I just ordered a new phone to replace it. It freezes and lags constantly. It's been great for many years though
I love the use of the original Xbox in the video haha great video dude
The galaxy note 4 is really one of my all time favorite galaxy devices (other than the flaming note 7). It was such a well all around phone. The chamfered aluminum edge, faux leather backing. It was elegant yet edgy in a sense. that’s one phone that I would love to see Alderney take on
I was going to upgrade to the Note 7 before the spontaneous combustion issue. 😥
The Note 5 is also an good (and a bit more available) equivalent compared to the Note FE (which wasn't very well regarded after the Note 7 incidents, despite the FE using a lower battery similar to the S7's battery) being made after the S6 design with the usual Note features.
Or for even more classy action, a Note 2 or 3 (I have the LTE variant of the Note 2, hairline crack level of damage to the glass that also goes almost unnoticeable.) should do well, although watch out as Kitkat is a royal pain in the butt in getting apps to work these days, to the point where I'd recommend a custom ROM (mind you, Note 2 and the S3 were the first Samsung phones to dethrone the swiss army knife that was the HTC HD2!) to get things done properly, and definitely nothing lower than at least Lollipop.
I had the note 4 for the longest of times, even got a backup one for the house, IR blaster was helpful
Man, I like when josh posts a video about old phone and giving and giving his opinion at the time of the video
I still use my Note 4 Edge in 2021. It does everything I need from a phone and I can carry eclxtra batteries around with me. So always got enough juice.
i remember someone getting a Note 3 way back when they were brand new. damn how times have changed now seeing note 4 considering outdated. time does really fly
Still using it for 5 years and still going strong, best phone i ever had! it have all features that even modern phones don't have... spare battery in my pocket and IR for remote control is the main reason i still using and don't plan change it... maybe i would if i ever find phone with better features...
I was using this phone until last year. Mid last year I finally got that EMMC issue that plagued the device earlier in its life. I ended up just waiting for a while without a phone and got me a Samsung S20 FE 5G. I love my new phone and don't have a complaint about it, but I do miss the S Pen that is standard with the note. I like that I can charge my buds with my phone. I spend days out fishing and camping, and that power share feature has been really nice. I don't take my battery banks on the boat with me, I leave them ashore at camp. I even charged my sister's phone for her. I love new tech, haha
I'm still using a note4 as my backup phone; mostly for maps and stuff. I love it even in 2021.
Me too
I still use this as my main phone,WORKS perfectly,got lots of emulators too
Soon I'll be buying a note 9 the note 4 used to be a huge dream phone for me... when the note 9 was the latest now I'm getting a note 9 I'm so exited its gonna be the best day of my life
Good choice last note that has headphone jack and still run great today from the reviews ive seen in 2021.
I recommend wait for the note 20 when it gets a bit cheaper. When u use my dads note nine to do things for him I can feel and see the diffence straight away. The only thing separating the two that might be must have for some users is the headphone jack, but the 120hz and inscreen fingerprint scanner is a good trade off.
Great video m8 also I'd love a review of the LG G6 😁
Samsung galaxy note 4 was my first note which I saw in a shop and instantly fell in love 😀😀😀😀
Probably my favorite TH-camr
Wtaching this on a Note 4 I'm tinkering with. It's an SK Telecom Red version. Looks incredible. Screen holds up against today's. Very impressed. Lol
I'm still using mine today. I never upgraded the software and it still supported by all modern daily apps. I just changed the battery to a high capacity that lasts for a week. I did get a nice S20 present but I still went back to my note 4.
Our principal still uses this phone. It works good for him.
I am also going to get it tomorrow...😛😛
As a Samsung tech , I am using a custom software upgrade on my note 4 with it running android 7.0 N, and I upgraded the rear camera and I am using a 3500ma battery! Runs great , better now than ever . 👍 great video! 👍
im getting the note 4 and was wondering what custom software and upgrades should i get and why? please help a girl out! thanks
I bought a repackaged Note 4 in 2015. And, amazingly, I still use it to this day.
Honestly, I'm amazed at that Note 4. I used it all this time without any screen protection or shell and it went through many, many falls. From small to 6 meters. The scratches on the screen still remain barely noticeable and do not hinder any media use.
One of the things that made me choose this phone back in 2015 was that it had a removable battery. This was a great feature. I've changed the battery 2 or 3 times to push the phone further in time and it worked great.
Honestly, it's was a great phone.
Concerning the fingerprint sensor, it's indeed weird to use, but a weird quirk I've noticed over the years is that, no one was able to unlock my phone with my fingers. The movement required by the sensor is so specific that people fail to unlock it.
I bought the Note 4 in April 2015, it's still working really well, thanks to the replaceable battery.
@@hoichiman2385 i still have mine too, but I feel like the built in SSD is getting slow or tired lol. i'm using a custom ROM and i find after reboots it takes quite a while before all my apps show up. I think my phone needs a nap after 7 years :|
@@hoichiman2385 where are you from
@@hoichiman2385 I want to buy this mobile will you sell your phone
Still using mine, the best samsung ever made... newer samsung phones all lost features compared to the note 4 ...also it is very usefull as a universal ir remote
hows it running?
@@hallmonitor98 I have 3 and they all still run just fine but they are mostly used as universal ir remotes these days
I just broke my third one, after I bought 2 new 3rd part batteries and then the screen slowly faded to black and just wouldn't turn back on. I wanted to get another but people want too much money $150-$270. I got a note 8 for $250. I'd still rather have the note 4
@@hallmonitor98 thats too bad mate. I think a lot of people are holding on to them because there are no real upgrades when it comes to the specific feature set on the note 4. Is it the eu or the us version of the phone? Wouldnt surprise me if samsung made their phones even in 2014 in such a way that they would die after x amount of hours of use. It is a way to common practice with any electronics
@@hallmonitor98 Note 4 cost $150-$270? Odd I bought super cheap fully functional Note 4 on ebay recently for $30
One of my favourite phones ever. It stopped working in 2018, I went on holiday with it and it was quite hot, about a month after it began to automatically power off 😔. Loved the display on this thing
Still have my note 4 for work, with custom firmware it's super fast, everything works and the fact that you can just replace the battery when it's empty is irreplaceable
Totally agreed. Older phones like Note 4 and LG G5 are the way to go with custom roms.
What ROM do you have installed ?
@@TroyKeener Resurrection Remix, it's grate
This channel is awesome
My 15 year old brother still uses a Samsung Galaxy note 4 in 2021 and he still likes it and I did get the battery replaced for him and now he is happy with his phone in 2021
I had the Note 4 from early 2015-early 2017, for most of the run it was a great experience. Although from late 2016 till I upgraded to the Galaxy S7 in early 2017 the Note 4 was starting to show its age with some minor hicups starting to become more noticable. the best part of the Note 4 experience was the stylus and the size of the screen for TH-cam video viewing plus reg internet browsing. Like you said for its time it was great but I couldnt see myself really utilizing it in early 2020s(or even late 2010s).
Just upgrade it with custom rom (unfortunately not all Note 4 can be upgraded). My Note 4 is still working great with custom roms.
Still have my note 4 edge just need to put the replacement screen on it. I would love to go back when I first got it! the phone was wonderful!
I really like your voice I can listen to you for days on end.
Welrdo
The Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 is an absolutely fantastic lens, great choice for reviews mate!
Im gonna get this as main phone i really appreciate phones with batteries like these i could just carry a second battery when needed
I had this phone and the back was awsome. This phone was one of my best phones when I also got the note 5 but it was a lovable phone. The ringtones on the phone were also my favorite thing because this phone had very nice ringtones and my ringtones that were set were peaceful strum, pure tone, chime, sea breeze and crossing a river. But I loved it so much.
Love this phone still today never cracked until this year after countless drops
Really accurate review, and this is coming from someone who has STILL NOT UPGRADED from the Note 4!! (Some of us are both way too broke and way too happy with our 2014 technology by comparison, lol. My boyfriend paid off his S9 in 2020, and has been wanting to flush it down the toilet since he first bought it.) Even if I could upgrade right now, I'm not sure I want to... subsequent models have seemed pretty substandard - or at worst, literally explosive - and are missing too many things I love about the Note 4.
You are 100% right on the battery thing, which I solved by getting two spares and an external charger. The camera quality really isn't good in low light, but as another commenter mentioned, that can be adjusted manually if you have a moment to do it. My only major complaint is not the phone's fault: the fact that EVERYTHING requires a minimum of Android 7 now!!
The only upgrade I would maybe consider is the Note 20, since I could still use my 60 GB SD card in it - but I can't switch out the battery, and there's no headphone jack (having to choose between plugging in either the phone OR the aux cable instead of both while on a long drive isn't an appealing option). Just my 80 cents as a pretty satisfied Note 4 user in 2022. Thanks for this video!
P.S. Duracell makes a Note 4 battery that is a BEAST, and I've used it as my primary battery for about three years. Lasts twice as long as the proprietary Samsung batteries, which I keep around as emergency spares with the charger.
Hi Josh, everytime I see you with one of this old I'm wondering how old you are. For me its a trip in my past and I'm enjoying every video. I loved the Note 4 cause of its large screen and I was falling in love with the larger screen phones and I still prefer the bigger cells. Stay on and many thanks from Germany
nice to see Some one doing a review on of the great old phones,, was a sensational phone at the time,
the S PEN is only a gimmick, until you know how to really use it,,
currently I got the note 10 plus,, use the S PEN 99 percent of the time
My dad actually uses my old note 4 to this day. I used it for two years then my sister used it for 2 years and now he has used it for nearly a year. It the single most durable phone I've ever used. After a new battery my dad was ready to go with it. Single best phone ever made by samsung.
This was my first good phone I bought after graduating high school. I paid for it with my first job. That phone was so nice I miss it even today
Love the intro
They need to make note 4 classic
Sad but true, still rockin the Note 4, just got the 7800 mah battery which made it a little better, but time to upgrade tho...
What I got only 4000 mAh baterry in my Galaxy a51
Do a video using the note 7 in 2021. That would be a blast.
Still using exynos model.very happy with it😊
i still use one of these with Lineage OS 18.1 based on android 11
Does anyone remember the Galaxy MEGA? Remember seeing that device and I thought back in the day. That is a HUGEE phone. Would have loved to have it at the time. How far things have came man
OMG I LOVE THIS PHONE SO MUCH
Still using as my side phone, I love the design so much 😭
I still have it and use it after 6 years
Beast
honestly amazing phone
Loved the Note 4. Loved! Used it until it went dead. Using Note 9 now, but would go back to the Note 4 in a heartbeat.
Lol. I'm still using my Note 4. I bought it used 6 years ago. Still works for me. I have replaced the battery several times. I am looking for a newer phone now. My Note 4 randomly shuts off even when it has full power. It's slow at times and occasionally freezes up. I've definitely loved the phone.
Watching on my Note 3 bought in 2018. Looking to upgrade to the Note 10+ but I'll really miss it. Never had a case or screen protector yet I've dropped it a couple times not a single crack! Faux leather backs need a comeback.
I'd take a replaceable battery over "premium"
yeah, idk whos gonna lick their premium all the time
With today's fast-charging abilities and smartphones having huge batteries it doesn't even matter lmao
@@hugopereira5640 for people who use their phones for a long time or take poor care of their batteries, a replaceable battery is much better
@@OmPrakash-pc1ec Yeah but at that point your battery would be dead in 2 years. Probably because of Android of the era being bloated trash and the hardware producing too much heat, and the smaller size of batteries/phones. I trust the battery on my S20 FE is going to last me 4 years easily tho.
@@hugopereira5640 removable battery is alsl helpful if your phone is stuck or something like that, that has saved me a lot of times, but anyways cases like these dont happen a lot and if making the battery unremovable help with improving the feel of the phone etc, I stand with non removable back
This was the first phone I ever purchased. I was a senior in highschool. Had a red s3 I got as a gift for like 2 years before hand.
I miss my note 4. I absolutely loved it. I kept it all the way to me getting my s8 after my axon 7 battery swole up. It still worked. It finally fell into my recliner without me knowing one night and I crushed the screen in the recliner arm.
Rip
Watching this from my exynos note 4. I changed the battery several times by now, put in a custom rom from anan and the experience feels as snooth as day one. I aleays had a nice case for it too so it looks almost new, no screen burns either for now. I am tempted to use it until it dies!
I'm still using this phone in the UK. The only way this is possible is because of the replaceable battery like you said. I love the IR blaster, I use it at work all the time (I'm a teacher, we have projectors in every classroom and the lights in every room are also controlled by IR remotes, but there's almost never a remote there when you need it).
I'd love a better camera and faster performance, but can't bring myself to give up the replaceable battery if I move to a newer Samsung (note or S21 ultra). It feels like such a waste of money for a new phone where the battery will die long before the hardware. If the S21 ultra had a replaceable battery, I'd probably have paid out for the 512gb version by now!
Still rocking with the best
I still use mine as a second phone. For Waze mostly.
If I could get a new one, I'd probably buy it. Legendary phone.
One of my favorite phones
Watching this on my note 4 with wake lock app to keep it stable
I still have one that I take out with me should I be going on a long walk or to somewhere that I don't want to take my S21 Ultra. Very handy back up device especially with the option to swap batteries.
Still have my Note4 - also had a Note3 as a "company phone" (provided by my workplace) - every once in a while I'll throw in the batteries I have charge them and check for any updates (carrier ones for security once in a blue moon will show up). I'll fiddle with it for about an hour and then return it to it's box and repeat in a few months. BTW I had the "factory unlocked" exynos one which worked across more GSM bands at the time so there were times where I had coverage while others with Note4 phones didn't. One feature I really miss on newer Samsung phones is the IR blaster - I'd use it often when I was traveling and wanted to avoid the hotel TV remote or to switch over to an HDMI input where the hotel's remote sometimes wouldn't let you.
I want this phone because of the screen resolution!
Using one since 2017. Commenting here using my still beast of a note 4 that I use for everyday routine. Surely the new ones nowadays are way ahead in every way. But am just waiting to fall in love with another note. Really liked the note 9 but didn't go for it. Hoping for a note 10 now. The secret ingredient for me is the stylus. Can't live without it now. Not after 7 years.
I got the Note 4 at launch in 2014 and loved it. It had literally everything that made a phone great - a headphone jack, microSD card slot, removable battery, and great camera.
Sadly it died a horrible death in Guam when saltwater intrusion killed the motherboard despite having the phone in an allegedly waterproof pouch.
I use a Note 9 now and Samsung has lost their way. Now the Note line is dead and nothing out there can replace it.
Watching this on my galaxy note 4...... running custom rom ...android 11,CrDroid Flavour ❤️😏
I still have mine I got the Duos version. I use it as a 2nd or spare phone with 2 sim cards. I bought it as soon as it came out in 2014 and I've replaced the battery about 4 times. I also replaced the leather back (the silver logo started turning green). It started feeling really old and laggish by 2017/2018 so I thought about selling it or giving it away but for some reason I couldn't part with it so here it is, still by my side.
Great retrospective! And btw, is that your dodge challenger?
I loved it!
Rocked a Note4 Edge until March this year. The only reason I stopped using it was the 3G/4G module died. I was perfectly happy with it right up until it died. Especially as being able to customize it far more than even an Apple 12. Now running a Fold 2 these days. :)
Apart from being on its third battery after seven years it was a brilliant phone.
I had 2 note 3 phones my dad had one also which got me wanting one because it was a great phone & after my first one died I got another note 3 then I got the note 4 but the note edge phone was my absolute favourite Samsung back in the day
FYI, you could buy big battery cases for that replaceable. Used to get 10hours of screen on time with my zerolemon. Man I miss upgradable batteries.
I can't even tell you how much I wish they remake this. With the newest chipset, android version, updated full body display, but with the same key design. They can make the back glasstic for all I care but I would love to have the battery replaceable. Also SD Card and 3.5mm is a must
And they should also increase the screen size to 7.2 inches too.
I remeber doing a memo for my aunt, who insisted using a fax, I was like just write down what you want on the word Document and then converted to PDF so she could signature, then had it emailed to who she wanted sent, thT only took 3 min, all from my note 4. 😊 📝
Used this on custom ROM as my main phone for about a week. Honestly still usable
note edge was awesome, got one in 2015, also note 4 and note edge was only phones with uv light sensor on the back, original Gear S also was with this sensor.
Was my first Samsung device, I liked it a lot but it was because of the stylus, because it had actually worst data speeds/reception than my Nexus 4 running unofficially on LTE in some situations like at my school and it was really slow...
A custom ROM definitely helps and made it a viable option.
2021 y sigo con mi note 4 . anda igual a cuando salio en 2014 0 fallas.
I still have my note 5 and my note 8. Sadly both phones battery dies out and i can't use it often. Since i had to be charging the phone constantly. Now i have a note 9. But if it wasn't for the battery. I would definitely still use it now! Especially rockin that physical home button and flexing on 2021!
Honestly despite the lack of software support it’s still probably a good phone. If you can root it it’s still gonna be a great phone that can pass for the basics...
I have 2 mint white AT&T models and they're just about useles besides for a camera. We couldn't download any apps and unfortunately the AT&T version isn't rootable. It would be awesome if i could use them because I have 6 batteries and an external charger.
I got one new from at&t. Loved it, it crashed for some reason and I had to upgrade, I used this phone for like five years. The stylus was only useful when you needed it but when you needed it, it was nice to have it. I’ve been on apple ever since..... but I have the itch to go back, I miss changing my phone to how I want it and not just moving icons around like on iOS, I miss the freedom android gives you.
Watching this video on my Samsung galaxy note 4 as my secondary phone in 2021 😊
Damn....
That thing is beautiful
I has the note 4 and loved it iv had all the note phone iv got the note 20 ultra now
I'm actually considering this phone as a daily driver in 2021, headphone jack and removable battery are enough of a draw over the current flagships.
Just got one and currently running customed note 7FE nougat rom on it. Work great.
@@Vantud391 do you have advice on how to install Nougat? I love this phone, but its only problem is that everything needs 7 now
@@yacketycat bootloader unlock - TWRP (Odin recommend) - flash desired ROM than flash Gapps and than reboot.
None of the top comments say this (even though if I hit latest I might see other people saying this), but: I had a hunch that the “strange” front camera count might have been exactly 1440p resolution and yep: 2560 * 1440 = 3,686,400 ≈ 3.7M. TBH I kinda like this, your frame output is exactly what the sensor is seeing, there’s no cropping or downscaling or interpolation or anything. If they’d interpolated up to 4M for stills while keeping video at 1440p it would likely have looked way softer than the actual 3.7M. So yeah. Pretty sweet.