This is why care work is so important and needs to be honored. This is why attention and maintenance of underlying health is so important. What we breathe, drink, and eat; cycles of activity and rest, exercise that is harmonious with the body's capabilities and needs. Thank you Dr. Sehuelt for explaining and advocating therapies that can be implemented by lay people and that are accessible to all. Heaven knows we will need these now and in the future.
30 min in 104°F Hot tub plus 60 min in 130-140°F infrared sauna every other day makes a world of difference for me, fighting off CMV, EBV & Lymes, keeping it at bay at the least. Thanks for all you do Dr Seheult!
@corbeanob3552 apparently so? IgG & IgM tests for all 3. Or maybe it's all leftover from original acute phase of each, but all were recently reactivated by Another tick bite this Spring? Doc seems uncertain 😖 Damn parasites & viruses!!
That much time in 104 degree hot tub I would be concerned about hypotension and risk of falling and striking my head. I do remember at my health club friend who after being in hot tube when getting out nearly passed out and fell striking his head with loss of consciousness and resultant scalp injury with some bleeding. Paramedics hauled him to hospital for concussion protocol. I am sure your increase in body temperature can be beneficial but one must be careful.
@doctorrobert60 I understand your concern 😁 I'm exceedingly careful & don't get in hot tub if I'm home alone. I've had more than my fair share of concussions, including a career ending traumatic brain injury in a car accident. Thankfully, hydrotherapy & sauna are helpful for brains, too! No one lives forever, and yet life goes on ❤️
My mother always covered us in layers and layers of blankets and comforters, (sometimes to a point where they were sliding off) until we were sweating. She believed in 'sweating out' the virus, but it seems she was unknowingly boosting the innate immune system. It always worked! I'd completely forgotten about this, until I watched this video. Thanks again for all the invaluable info, Dr. Seheult.
Very interesting video & update Doc! Yet another MedCram video that I have to send to my cousin (M.D.) for viewing! Remembering the Hippocratic Oath of "Do No Harm" is always the best approach to patient care! Hope that all is well with you & your family! 👍👍
When I am fighting infections, I use my hot tub multiple times per day…as much as 6 times a day.. I never suppress a fever unless it starts going to 105F or higher.
Top ! That’s absolutely the best way ! In Scandinavia we know this alreadyfor 1000 nds of years …. And since 100 years also proven by multiple studies and research!
In the context of long covid (I do have LC), it is important to remember that many patients have MCAS and one of MCAS triggers is heat. SO it may be detrimental to these patients do expose the body to hot water. I experimented on myself and it is the case. Anything that is a shock to the body is bad for long covid and me/cfs patients. They need soft and gentle treatments.
Depends. I have long Covid and hot and cold shower plus baking in the sun has been amazing. Not fearing long Covid made the most difference. I was bedbound by fear not physically.
Very interesting! I can remember as a kid burrowing under piles of blankets to 'sweat it out" when sick. I think my parents only required us to stay slightly covered up but I liked to borrow & sweat. No memory of the results though. To this day my normal temp is 97.6 to 97.9
A lot of hydrotherapy procedures in that time were advising to finish the procedure with short cold water exposure, or even combining cold exposure with friction. Why did they do it? And it would be great if you could make lectures about general principals in hydrotherapy. How does vasomotors react to cold or warm exposure. Because apparently there is something called "intrinsic effect and reactionary effect" of water exposure, and I have hard time understanding all of it when I read hydrotherapy texts. And as you are great lecturer, you could definitely explain it very clearly to all of us. May God lead you in your future work for Him!
Roger I am William R Grace MD, hematologist oncologist in New York City and this summer I developed severe right sacroiliitis on the night I was supposed to take a plane up to Maine and I was uncertain as to whether I could comfortably get around the airport so I injected Marcaine and Kenalog enter my right sacroiliac joint. The next day came down with horrible corona virus which affected every organ of my body although I did not desaturate. I had headaches, fever to 102, rhinitis and sinusitis, bronchitis, productive cough, atrial fibrillation, diarrhea, arthralgias and myalgias but most importantly I had severe pain in the right sacroiliac joint despite the Marcaine and Kenalog shot. I essentially was an invalid but I took Paxlovid with all my symptoms disappearing except for the sacroiliitis on the right side. I have from 34 3 hour marathons and done the world professional iron Man championships. I am now an invalid with what has been described as long COVID. The sacroiliitis is now on my left side as I felt that it was part of a rebound from Paxlovid. I can not walk more than 1 or 2 blocks without terrible pain sacroiliac joint. I have done some research and I see that it may last from 1-4 months. I am certain that the steroid shot probably suppressed my immunity and I have since found out that the sacroiliitis does not respond to systemic steroids, intra-articular steroids or to nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs. I have done a small survey and found that most of the cases are in healthcare workers occluding colleagues of mine who are physicians at Lenox Hill Hospital. I was wondering in all of the research you have done should I now be getting into a hot bath several times a day? Of interest all my colleagues who have this syndrome say that the only thing that gives him relief is a heating pad over the pelvis. I would love to hear your thoughts. I have been a large fan of yours and have talked about your website and TH-cam channel on Fox news as the major site to get accurate information on management of corona virus. I thank you for all your help that you have been to everyone who has listen to your channel. I have never stopped taking vitamin-D ( 5000 IU plus ) N-acetylcysteine, reduced glutathione, zinc and getting lots of sunlight. Some of my colleagues state that I am now a person of color even though I am clearly of Irish background. William R Grace MD
@@Medcram is this a chatgpt response? The man gives a thoughtful background and specific question and you suggest swimming? Better to have not replied at all.
Hello doctor, l hope your pain has gone away since you posted this 3 months ago. However, if it’s still bothering you I would recommend to see a rheumatologist and rule out inflammatory arthritis as a cause for the SI joint pain, especially given its onset right after Covid 19 infection.
Excellent. Clear, succinct explanations. I am not in med field (nuclear engineer, retired). But I think I followed the reasoning throughout the vid. Well done.
The traditional home treatment for children (and adults) coming down with fever/flu/cold is to wrap the child up in thick doona until they sweat it out and get better. It definitely works as I’ve been treated as such too when young. After a big sweat which is not that comfortable, one would suddenly feel so much better with fallen fever and generally. This practice was semi discarded amongst the more ‘educated’ for fear of inducing febrile convulsions and brain damage, and tepid baths were used in its place per Western medical advice. Relating to this presentation, that old practice seemed to have been validated with scientific basis and should not be discounted.
It’s like cough suppressants we rely too much on junk like that which just keeps mucus in there which is a great place to grow bacteria!!! I only gave cost suppressants to my children when they couldn’t sleep at night other than that I didn’t give it to him. I know I sound like horrible mom I just felt like it was better treatment same as fever reducers not unless they were in pain or is a intolerable, but that fever is important for the body to fight hard
If you think about it, small children tend to get high fevers which makes sense because of the underdeveloped adaptive immune response (i.e. Antibodies from prior exposures). It is a well known fact that in children given Tylenol or ibuprofen prior to vaccination decreases the effectiveness of the vaccine.
@@st3ppenwolf Latest research suggest that those convulsions and brain damage risks are not due to the temperature per se but predisposition to the response from disease.
I’ve noticed how young parents these days don’t have any clue on how to treat their children for the flu at home. My parents kept us in bed under lots of blankets and pushed fluids. Parents today just give their children Tylenol and a cough suppressant
and mine let me stripped with sheets and I was better next day. Todays parents are too busy on instagram. Tyenlnol is so bad.....tells the body to stop fighting and the virus gets worse
Personally did infrared mat with PEMF. Setting at 158°F, since I had no innate fever. Runny nose for the first few days only and my hips were pain free for a week afterwards
I remember back when COVID was raging in South Korea. I was quarantined for two weeks. Every day in quarantine the government would text that people that had been in this or that local hot bath had come down with COVID 19. I have experienced these hot baths. It starts with immersion up to the neck in 39C water. Then the bathers moved up to another pool. A degree or two hotter. After getting properly cooked (maybe 10 or 15 minutes in 43C water) people move to the Sauna and do a lot of sweating. The whole thing might be followed by a dip in relatively cold water. There was no was to know how severe the cases where. But the Korean government was generally isolating anyone who was known to have been in contact with a known case. It is the older generation who generally frequents these hot baths.
Could we say the recommendation to stay home and take Tylenol when infected actually increased hospitalizations? The double whammy in that Tylenol was recommended instead of aspirin which at least would have helped with blood clots.
@@jasonhsu4711buck up. I have gone mountain biking with 104.5. By then I was a fever pro from tick borne illnesses. Be grateful that A- your body is able to produce a fever and B- you are not so chronically ill that fevers and their crappy side effects are not second nature to you because you have them til you’re skeletonized. You’ll get through your little fevers from the odd illness just fine. It’s a matter of perspective. I can think of a ton of things I thought sucked before my life was upended that I’d kill to get to “suffer “ from now. Not trying to sound rude, just please be grateful for your blessings.
Hot tea, lemon. honey and whiskey. Vics on chest with flannel cloth. Lots of blankets. Sweat it out. That was our cold and flu remedies as kids. The next day you went to school.
For those of us highly sensitive people that respond so badly to so many medications I have learned to rely on this type of therapy. I have lupus and multiple autoimmune. With any illness do 1 hr in hottub or hot bath. I also do I fared sauna. I do all the things you mentioned at end plus shoe body vibration and lymphatic massage. These therapies help me manage without the medications my body can’t handle.
I grew up not supressing fevers but let them run its course. I still do that when I get sick. I had Covid in October (I'm vaccinated X 4) and had a fever up to 103. I slept 48 hours straight except bathroom breaks and on day third I felt fine, but a little weak. Day four I was back to feeling normal.
Do you have research on the effects of your body temperature rising during strenuous exercise or gardening in the heat? I imagine your body temperature increases quite a bit. I know you wouldn't do that if you were sick, but could it have a preventative effect?
Low body temperature increase erytocite tendency to agregate like coin rolls If globuline level increase and albumine decrease. Also at TWiV 659 at min29 virologist Christian Drosten suggest that SARS COV2 better replicate at very low tissue temperature. At elderly thermogenesis mecanism decrease. Antiinterferon antibody diminish fever reaction when virus contamination occur.
May be If SARS COV2 infection occur and induce Covid19 must avoid to decrease lung temperature. May be by using more warmed oxigen mix?(may be at body temperature?)36C -37C Even,, mask wearing,, increase upper respiratory temperature. At intubated patients may must avoid to decrease lung temperature, because thermogenesis are decreased by myorelaxants and narcose
At some patients,paradoxal mask wearing increase blood oxigen saturation. May be by warming upper respiratory temperature,or by increasing CO2 level ? When I use oxigen mix warmed at body temperature ,oxigen saturation increase rapidly.
this reminds me of getting sick when travelling in Eastern Europe and being told the local folk cure is to have a hot bath, a slug of vodka and go to bed and sweat it out under 3 blankets!
@@Medcram Environmental factors affect some of us who live in the north. Spending most of our time indoors in the colder climates/months breathing drier air from heating systems & combined with poor ventilation + poor air quality contributes to respiratory illness as well. Is that valid?
As always excellent content. For those of us in sun starved areas how can we get more near infrared at home? Heat lamp? What should I be looking for? Thank you
I seemed to be able to engage my immune system. All it took was 7 minutes in the hot afternoon sun in FL. I then had flu-like symptoms for about 12 hours. Nausea, loss of appetite, loose stools, some confusion, extreme fatigue. IR temp. gun showed a 10-15 degree increase in stomach skin temp, But internal was still normal. Am I over sensitive to the heat? Great video! Thank you.
Tx! This was fantastic! Did you know that there has also been some research that has indicated antibiotics can be more effective when patients have fevers?
I was very sick years ago where I had a fever and chills I could not get warm no matter what I did. I made a mustard(powder) plaster for my chest and back, and in an hour my fever broke. Mustard plaster gets very hot.
Instinctively since childhood whenever I've had the flu, I ramp up the heating and get under my thick duvet, creating a mini sauna. I did this when I got Covid (Alpha 2020 March). Spicy hot curries also seem to help.
Dr. Seheult, could you share with us how long one needs to submerge in 41-45 degrees Celsius water to reach that magic 39 degree body temperature please?
Dr. Sheult. I have a question about covid vaccines. I have no prior covid infection. I have gotten 4 vaccines. I keep hearing about a study showing declining efficacy, and the IgG 4 switch in folks like me. It said, show the immune system same antigen, over and over, me, and the types of IgG pivot away from protective neutralizing antibodies, to non neutralizing IgG 4 antibodies. My question is should someone like , me, with no prior infection, continue to get vaccinated??? Thank you. I hope to see you address this before I go to doctor on Dec 4, 2023, so I can have more information before I see my busy, busy, doctor that I only get 15 minutes with....Jeannie in Lakeport California
I think if your goal is to stay out of the hospital, you’re probably be fine with what you already have. If however, you’re immunocompromised or are trying to avoid becoming infected. You may want to consider another dose.
So we need to go to thermal pools when we have covid or have long hot baths. Seems like an easy solution in my city. I can easily go to thermal pools here. Although thermal pools are usually around 38-39 degree so it might not be effective but indoor thermal pools(basically Turkish hamams) also has sauna effect so it might be enough together
Modern advent of heated blankets and throws, mean people furnished with a thermometer and care could potentially induce a 39C body temperature to assist with a respiratory viral infection, possibly. My experience of flu (thankfully infrequent and some 20 years ago) included trying to ride the fever that the flu caused as long as I could bear. not easy!
A Science Immunology article from 2021 titled “Autoantibodies neutralizing type I IFGs are presen in ~4% of uninflected individuals over 70 years old and account for ~20% of COVID-19 deaths” suggests that the bodies ability to use IFN to fight off covid is hinders by auto-Abs neutralizing IFN alpha2/omega. These are present in 10% of their N = 3000+ study. Would you still recommend hydrotherapy in the case of someone with these circulating Abs?
A fascinating terse talk, to start with, thank you👏 How powerful, fair, n wise Nature is, creating in the human body weakness points and the antidote for that😮. As for the treatment of viral infections-at the least, we doctors are giving the wrong advice of lowering a sick child’s temperature to “save” him from fever whilst ironically his fever is “attempting” to save him! Isn’t it time we rectify our recommendations?! There’s a major obstacle herein though, to convince poorly informed parents that fever is a sick child’s friend! More, yes, fever was used as a means to treat serious infections like syphilis, inducing malaria infection as mentioned, but also to my readings also inducing typhoid for ex.!
Not only interferon induce fever. If antigen bind with antibody fever can occur also by different mechanisms May be at vaccinated fever occur rapidly after contamination?
🎉From Dr Seheult, taking hot bath is an excellent idea to increase IFN but it has 2 problems: 1. The IFN amount would not increase unless one goes from room temperature to a much hotter temperature, thus staying in a hot bath does not produce this delta in temperature change. 2. Would COVID be spread much easier on the sauna, thus sauna is not a good idea?
@@Medcram may be because interferon induce fever,many elderly did not have fever when viral infection occur ? And If(?) SARS COV2 (may be??) is a ,, temperature sensive,,virus,like rhinoviruses ,fever can mitigate SARS COV2 infection. Did we know what are the restrictive temperature of new variants of SARS COV2 ?
I conducted a test with an electric blanket, which resulted in a significantly lower increase in my body temperature compared to using the bathtub method. Also, I had some concerns regarding excessive sweating and electricity (risk of electric shock?).
When I get severely ill with virus or infection, my body temperature drops to 95 or even 94 degrees, which is hypothermic. No one will tell me why. I know I’m immunocompromised. I am wondering if there’s any wise medical insight to be offered. Profusely sweating with a 95 degree body temp while severely ill, is a living hell. I have to use heating pads to fight the chills, even tho I soak everything with sweat. I always hope the heating element I add to bath to keep it hot, won’t electrocute me someday. 😊 So much about me is backwards, upside down, and alien. I’ve paradoxical biochemistry, which means I have opposite reactions to drugs, anesthetics don’t work (numbing agents, or sedatives for surgery) as I wake up repeatedly screaming during surgeries. It’s even happened where every blood pressure machine in the clinic could not detect any blood pressure on me at all. Quel Mystere, right? I just wish I could figure out what specialty at a teaching hospital to apply to. There’s got to be doctors who might see the intrigue of a mystery, by actually believing me.
@malaikamillions Regarding the electric heating element you referenced, please be careful. I utilized a portable electric heater to heat a bathtub and failed to recognize that it was electrifying the water. The realization only came after experiencing a significant electric shock while standing barefoot on the ground (initially, my footwear prevented the electric current from completing the circuit (closed loop), leaving me unaware of the electrified water). Had I been inside the bathtub, simply touching the wall would have closed the electrical circuit, potentially resulting in electrocution or drowning.
That’s interesting thank you. This part is also interesting: “However, excessive host innate immune responses possibly lead to cytokine storms and/or tissue damage, inhibiting the efficacy of influenza virus mRNA vaccines. Therefore, mRNA-induced innate immunity must be controlled to reduce excessive inflammation while retaining antibody production.”
Is it reasonable to think if your body were to be rejecting a hip replacement your innate immune system may or would be in overdrive fighting the foreign materials of the hip replacement? I know this is not on subject with the virus talk but it got me curious thinking in these terms.
As strange as it seems there seems to be health benefits from the simple act of humming. Does increase the production of NOX. What has any one else aware of?
May be ,,mask wearing,, increase also upper respiratory temperature and theoretically diminish SARS COV2 replication? At TWiV 659 at min29 virologist Christian Drosten suggest that SARS COV2 better replicate at very low tissue temperature.
Fomentations require a heat source, water, and cloth. That’s it. Hot tubs are merely more convenient ways of applying the science. I don’t have a hot tub either at the moment. I use the simple techniques used in the video.
Dr John Campbell did a video three years ago on a very promising study using interfering beta, I wonder whatever happened to that? It was cheap as I remember.
Yeah, my concern is for human lives in a time without medical infrastructure. Medication has its place. A pandemic creates special needs. Needs that usually cannot be met by the usual supply chain and traditional health care delivery. It’s why we need to think outside the box. Things that people aren’t doing. Neither label or off label medications will be available. That’s why it’s a false dichotomy.
He did mention why, but I’m having one of these moments where I wish I could explain what champagne coolers and space suits had in common to simplify the explanation.
Is it really “just fine” to allocate resources to developing expensive pharmaceutical interventions, which we don’t fully understand the mechanism of rather than utilizing nature? One of the most allopathic statements have ever come out of your mouth. 😉
I have the benefits of seeing patients at multiple points along their path. In the clinic I see them often before they get disease. In the intensive care unit I see them after they have disease and while they are dying of it. I wish you could see what we do in the intensive care unit. You would see that many lives were saved from the use of developed pharmaceuticals. This allowed them to live long enough to invoke lifestyle changes to bring about the true change. However, if it wasn’t for pharmaceuticals used appropriately in that setting, they would be dead. I know that’s a hard pill for you to swallow but it’s reality.
@@Medcram Funny you should say because I am a seasoned ICU registered nurse ;) CCRN, TNCC, SCRN, CPAN. I think many patients could be saved from MICU/CCU/CVICU if we figured out cause prior to extreme tertiary treatment. Many of these patients were failed in the community prior to getting to me, intubated. I fully appreciate the remarkable powers of the ICU and used to love working there before becoming injured, gaslit, placed on meds (not fully understood) resulting in my deterioration. I watch a lot of your videos and have the most respect for you and have often thought “more critical care physicians should be as inquisitive as this brilliant human”. ❤️
@@azurec6001 I appreciate your response. I wish you well and I agree that many critical care patients could have been saved the injustice of having to be in the ICU. Education is the key.
Hey ...do you think you can do a lecture on 1gg4 antibodies and the silent immune storm in the body...when you vax ...then infected .....and timing it would happen in ...if it were to be a risk and who is in danger ...lots of talk about this
Interferon needs to be more well understood and that understanding needs to be more widespread. I never get fevers, but I'm sick all the time. Turns out that it's low interferon gamma production due to infantile isolation. There's no word for that, at least that I know of, so I have to go into a whole thing about my backstory and an unreplicated study on primates to explain it to people, which is not the most trustworthy of explainations, understandably, but it's the only thing that fits my symptoms and history to a T. Now, they have interferon gamma injections, but I'd have to have hep c to get a prescription for it, and as a lifetime-immunocompromized, disabled person, there is no way I could ever afford it.
For continuing medical education, or just continuing education credits, go to medcram.com for videos on ekg, cbc, CMP, abg, and more!
This is why care work is so important and needs to be honored. This is why attention and maintenance of underlying health is so important. What we breathe, drink, and eat; cycles of activity and rest, exercise that is harmonious with the body's capabilities and needs.
Thank you Dr. Sehuelt for explaining and advocating therapies that can be implemented by lay people and that are accessible to all. Heaven knows we will need these now and in the future.
30 min in 104°F Hot tub plus 60 min in 130-140°F infrared sauna every other day makes a world of difference for me, fighting off CMV, EBV & Lymes, keeping it at bay at the least. Thanks for all you do Dr Seheult!
Fighting all 3 at once!?!
@corbeanob3552 apparently so? IgG & IgM tests for all 3. Or maybe it's all leftover from original acute phase of each, but all were recently reactivated by Another tick bite this Spring? Doc seems uncertain 😖 Damn parasites & viruses!!
That much time in 104 degree hot tub I would be concerned about hypotension and risk of falling and striking my head. I do remember at my health club friend who after being in hot tube when getting out nearly passed out and fell striking his head with loss of consciousness and resultant scalp injury with some bleeding. Paramedics hauled him to hospital for concussion protocol. I am sure your increase in body temperature can be beneficial but one must be careful.
@doctorrobert60 I understand your concern 😁 I'm exceedingly careful & don't get in hot tub if I'm home alone. I've had more than my fair share of concussions, including a career ending traumatic brain injury in a car accident. Thankfully, hydrotherapy & sauna are helpful for brains, too! No one lives forever, and yet life goes on ❤️
👍👍👍@@JackPackInTheWoods
I’ve been watching Dr Sheault for 3 years now, Really a great channell
My mother always covered us in layers and layers of blankets and comforters, (sometimes to a point where they were sliding off) until we were sweating. She believed in 'sweating out' the virus, but it seems she was unknowingly boosting the innate immune system. It always worked! I'd completely forgotten about this, until I watched this video. Thanks again for all the invaluable info, Dr. Seheult.
Great to see this important accessable health measure bought into the spotlight again. Thank you for doing the research and bringing this to light.
Very interesting video & update Doc! Yet another MedCram video that I have to send to my cousin (M.D.) for viewing! Remembering the Hippocratic Oath of "Do No Harm" is always the best approach to patient care! Hope that all is well with you & your family! 👍👍
Yes!
Wow your research on this topic is impeccable!
We try to get to the bottom of this stuff!
When I am fighting infections, I use my hot tub multiple times per day…as much as 6 times a day.. I never suppress a fever unless it starts going to 105F or higher.
You seem to get fevers often. I don’t but wish I did
You seem to get fevers often. I don’t but wish I did
Top ! That’s absolutely the best way ! In Scandinavia we know this alreadyfor 1000 nds of years …. And since 100 years also proven by multiple studies and research!
Same! That and my infrared sauna. I think that’s why I kicked Covid so quickly. As soon as my husband came down with it I hopped in the sauna 😆
In the context of long covid (I do have LC), it is important to remember that many patients have MCAS and one of MCAS triggers is heat. SO it may be detrimental to these patients do expose the body to hot water. I experimented on myself and it is the case. Anything that is a shock to the body is bad for long covid and me/cfs patients. They need soft and gentle treatments.
Thank you for that perspective. We are all learning about this.
hi Alexandre, i have LC too, did u find anything helpful?
@@puduart2176 Yes, I have read the book The Mindbody Prescription, by Dr John Sarno and now I'm almost completely recovered.
Depends. I have long Covid and hot and cold shower plus baking in the sun has been amazing. Not fearing long Covid made the most difference. I was bedbound by fear not physically.
Very interesting! I can remember as a kid burrowing under piles of blankets to 'sweat it out" when sick. I think my parents only required us to stay slightly covered up but I liked to borrow & sweat. No memory of the results though. To this day my normal temp is 97.6 to 97.9
The music intro to medcram videos is like comfort food at this point. 😊
Love that!
Another highly impactful video, Dr! Thank you.
A lot of hydrotherapy procedures in that time were advising to finish the procedure with short cold water exposure, or even combining cold exposure with friction. Why did they do it? And it would be great if you could make lectures about general principals in hydrotherapy. How does vasomotors react to cold or warm exposure. Because apparently there is something called "intrinsic effect and reactionary effect" of water exposure, and I have hard time understanding all of it when I read hydrotherapy texts. And as you are great lecturer, you could definitely explain it very clearly to all of us. May God lead you in your future work for Him!
Will research
@@Medcramthank you so much for doing all these critical research for us lay folks ☺️🙏 your work really helped me as a new mom
Roger I am William R Grace MD, hematologist oncologist in New York City and this summer I developed severe right sacroiliitis on the night I was supposed to take a plane up to Maine and I was uncertain as to whether I could comfortably get around the airport so I injected Marcaine and Kenalog enter my right sacroiliac joint. The next day came down with horrible corona virus which affected every organ of my body although I did not desaturate. I had headaches, fever to 102, rhinitis and sinusitis, bronchitis, productive cough, atrial fibrillation, diarrhea, arthralgias and myalgias but most importantly I had severe pain in the right sacroiliac joint despite the Marcaine and Kenalog shot. I essentially was an invalid but I took Paxlovid with all my symptoms disappearing except for the sacroiliitis on the right side. I have from 34 3 hour marathons and done the world professional iron Man championships. I am now an invalid with what has been described as long COVID. The sacroiliitis is now on my left side as I felt that it was part of a rebound from Paxlovid. I can not walk more than 1 or 2 blocks without terrible pain sacroiliac joint. I have done some research and I see that it may last from 1-4 months. I am certain that the steroid shot probably suppressed my immunity and I have since found out that the sacroiliitis does not respond to systemic steroids, intra-articular steroids or to nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs. I have done a small survey and found that most of the cases are in healthcare workers occluding colleagues of mine who are physicians at Lenox Hill Hospital. I was wondering in all of the research you have done should I now be getting into a hot bath several times a day? Of interest all my colleagues who have this syndrome say that the only thing that gives him relief is a heating pad over the pelvis. I would love to hear your thoughts. I have been a large fan of yours and have talked about your website and TH-cam channel on Fox news as the major site to get accurate information on management of corona virus. I thank you for all your help that you have been to everyone who has listen to your channel. I have never stopped taking vitamin-D ( 5000 IU plus ) N-acetylcysteine, reduced glutathione, zinc and getting lots of sunlight. Some of my colleagues state that I am now a person of color even though I am clearly of Irish background.
William R Grace MD
I found this:
www.painteq.com/5-swimming-exercises-to-help-si-joint-pain
@@Medcram is this a chatgpt response? The man gives a thoughtful background and specific question and you suggest swimming? Better to have not replied at all.
Hello doctor, l hope your pain has gone away since you posted this 3 months ago. However, if it’s still bothering you I would recommend to see a rheumatologist and rule out inflammatory arthritis as a cause for the SI joint pain, especially given its onset right after Covid 19 infection.
Thank you. Such a helpful follow up to your earlier advice!
Excellent. Clear, succinct explanations. I am not in med field (nuclear engineer, retired). But I think I followed the reasoning throughout the vid. Well done.
Grateful for your kind words especially coming from a nuclear engineer!
The traditional home treatment for children (and adults) coming down with fever/flu/cold is to wrap the child up in thick doona until they sweat it out and get better. It definitely works as I’ve been treated as such too when young. After a big sweat which is not that comfortable, one would suddenly feel so much better with fallen fever and generally. This practice was semi discarded amongst the more ‘educated’ for fear of inducing febrile convulsions and brain damage, and tepid baths were used in its place per Western medical advice. Relating to this presentation, that old practice seemed to have been validated with scientific basis and should not be discounted.
It’s like cough suppressants we rely too much on junk like that which just keeps mucus in there which is a great place to grow bacteria!!! I only gave cost suppressants to my children when they couldn’t sleep at night other than that I didn’t give it to him. I know I sound like horrible mom I just felt like it was better treatment same as fever reducers not unless they were in pain or is a intolerable, but that fever is important for the body to fight hard
Convulsions are actually a real risk in toddlers or younger due to brain mass relative to body mass. I wouldn't do hyperthermia with kids.
If you think about it, small children tend to get high fevers which makes sense because of the underdeveloped adaptive immune response (i.e. Antibodies from prior exposures). It is a well known fact that in children given Tylenol or ibuprofen prior to vaccination decreases the effectiveness of the vaccine.
@@st3ppenwolf Latest research suggest that those convulsions and brain damage risks are not due to the temperature per se but predisposition to the response from disease.
@@wy3131 last year's review on febrile seizures: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK448123/
not sure where you get your "research" but care to share?
I’ve noticed how young parents these days don’t have any clue on how to treat their children for the flu at home. My parents kept us in bed under lots of blankets and pushed fluids.
Parents today just give their children Tylenol and a cough suppressant
Yeah we’re losing that institutional memory acquired over generations!
and mine let me stripped with sheets and I was better next day. Todays parents are too busy on instagram. Tyenlnol is so bad.....tells the body to stop fighting and the virus gets worse
I like the point youve made. This becomes an option when it takes a year to develop a vaccine.
Thanks. Very important information
Personally did infrared mat with PEMF. Setting at 158°F, since I had no innate fever. Runny nose for the first few days only and my hips were pain free for a week afterwards
It works! I had Covid recently, did the 2 baths within first 4 days, back to normal, day 5!!!! Age: 73, Many many thanks!!!!
Outstanding
This is excellent information. Thank you so much.
glad to see that old folk medicine is making come back
Great commentary
Much appreciated
Think of a native American sweat lodge.
…and Scandinavian saunas an steam baths!
Thanks for this valuable information.
I remember back when COVID was raging in South Korea. I was quarantined for two weeks. Every day in quarantine the government would text that people that had been in this or that local hot bath had come down with COVID 19. I have experienced these hot baths. It starts with immersion up to the neck in 39C water. Then the bathers moved up to another pool. A degree or two hotter. After getting properly cooked (maybe 10 or 15 minutes in 43C water) people move to the Sauna and do a lot of sweating. The whole thing might be followed by a dip in relatively cold water.
There was no was to know how severe the cases where. But the Korean government was generally isolating anyone who was known to have been in contact with a known case.
It is the older generation who generally frequents these hot baths.
Propaganda to keep people from healing?!?
@@janetedddddno.
Could we say the recommendation to stay home and take Tylenol when infected actually increased hospitalizations?
The double whammy in that Tylenol was recommended instead of aspirin which at least would have helped with blood clots.
Yea I never understood why so many people want to try to lower a fever. The fever is your body's way of fighting off disease.
@@gordo3582 Fevers are nasty. I cannot really do anything if I have even the slightest hint of a fever.
@@jasonhsu4711 Well, you are not supposed to do anything when sick.
@@damnedmadman I know, but a fever makes me feel like I'm dying.
@@jasonhsu4711buck up. I have gone mountain biking with 104.5. By then I was a fever pro from tick borne illnesses. Be grateful that A- your body is able to produce a fever and B- you are not so chronically ill that fevers and their crappy side effects are not second nature to you because you have them til you’re skeletonized. You’ll get through your
little fevers from the odd illness just fine. It’s a matter of perspective. I can think of a ton of things I thought sucked before my life was upended that I’d kill to get to “suffer “ from now. Not trying to sound rude, just please be grateful for your blessings.
Good info doc! 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent.
TYVM This is wonderful.
Hot tea, lemon. honey and whiskey. Vics on chest with flannel cloth. Lots of blankets. Sweat it out. That was our cold and flu remedies as kids. The next day you went to school.
Ah the days….
We got an infrared sauna last summer 😄 Not extravagant at all, it is for medicinal reasons and I’m glad we got it.
For those of us highly sensitive people that respond so badly to so many medications I have learned to rely on this type of therapy. I have lupus and multiple autoimmune. With any illness do 1 hr in hottub or hot bath. I also do I fared sauna. I do all the things you mentioned at end plus shoe body vibration and lymphatic massage. These therapies help me manage without the medications my body can’t handle.
It would be very very hard to get to 39c core temp voluntarily. Like you're not gonna do it when you're feeling great let alone when you're sick.
When will we see MedCram Sanitariums nearby? :)
I grew up not supressing fevers but let them run its course. I still do that when I get sick. I had Covid in October (I'm vaccinated X 4) and had a fever up to 103. I slept 48 hours straight except bathroom breaks and on day third I felt fine, but a little weak. Day four I was back to feeling normal.
Do you have research on the effects of your body temperature rising during strenuous exercise or gardening in the heat? I imagine your body temperature increases quite a bit. I know you wouldn't do that if you were sick, but could it have a preventative effect?
Very interesting❤
Low body temperature increase erytocite tendency to agregate like coin rolls If globuline level increase and albumine decrease.
Also at TWiV 659 at min29 virologist Christian Drosten suggest that SARS COV2 better replicate at very low tissue temperature.
At elderly thermogenesis mecanism decrease.
Antiinterferon antibody diminish fever reaction when virus contamination occur.
May be If SARS COV2 infection occur and induce Covid19 must avoid to decrease lung temperature.
May be by using more warmed oxigen mix?(may be at body temperature?)36C -37C
Even,, mask wearing,, increase upper respiratory temperature.
At intubated patients may must avoid to decrease lung temperature, because thermogenesis are decreased by myorelaxants and narcose
Muscular tonus maintain normal thermogenesis.
Low vitD level decrease basal muscular tonus,(one symptom of rykets is muscular hipotonia)
At some patients,paradoxal mask wearing increase blood oxigen saturation.
May be by warming upper respiratory temperature,or by increasing CO2 level ?
When I use oxigen mix warmed at body temperature ,oxigen saturation increase rapidly.
Effects of mofette ,when we increase level of CO2
this reminds me of getting sick when travelling in Eastern Europe and being told the local folk cure is to have a hot bath, a slug of vodka and go to bed and sweat it out under 3 blankets!
Couldn't that partially explain the reason for the seasonal nature of viruses like Flu through the colder months?
That’s and sunlight.
@@Medcram Environmental factors affect some of us who live in the north. Spending most of our time indoors in the colder climates/months breathing drier air from heating systems & combined with poor ventilation + poor air quality contributes to respiratory illness as well. Is that valid?
As always excellent content. For those of us in sun starved areas how can we get more near infrared at home? Heat lamp? What should I be looking for? Thank you
These may work but we need more data!
I seemed to be able to engage my immune system. All it took was 7 minutes in the hot afternoon sun in FL. I then had flu-like symptoms for about 12 hours.
Nausea, loss of appetite, loose stools, some confusion, extreme fatigue. IR temp. gun showed a 10-15 degree increase in stomach skin temp, But internal was still normal. Am I over sensitive to the heat?
Great video! Thank you.
Sounds like something
Excellent reason for Hot Tub.
Could this be the start of a universal drug/medicine that can work on almost any illness?
Tx! This was fantastic! Did you know that there has also been some research that has indicated antibiotics can be more effective when patients have fevers?
Send me that link!
I was very sick years ago where I had a fever and chills I could not get warm no matter what I did. I made a mustard(powder) plaster for my chest and back, and in an hour my fever broke. Mustard plaster gets very hot.
Instinctively since childhood whenever I've had the flu, I ramp up the heating and get under my thick duvet, creating a mini sauna. I did this when I got Covid (Alpha 2020 March). Spicy hot curries also seem to help.
I always have the strongest urge for a hot bath when an infection starts, always feel better after ❤
Dr. Seheult, could you share with us how long one needs to submerge in 41-45 degrees Celsius water to reach that magic 39 degree body temperature please?
usually about 20 minutes. You should be sweating.
@@Medcram Thank you for the reply and the fact/science based medical content. You have improved my life.
Dr. Sheult. I have a question about covid vaccines. I have no prior covid infection. I have gotten 4 vaccines. I keep hearing about a study showing declining efficacy, and the IgG 4 switch in folks like me. It said, show the immune system same antigen, over and over, me, and the types of IgG pivot away from protective neutralizing antibodies, to non neutralizing IgG 4 antibodies.
My question is should someone like , me, with no prior infection, continue to get vaccinated??? Thank you. I hope to see you address this before I go to doctor on Dec 4, 2023, so I can have more information before I see my busy, busy, doctor that I only get 15 minutes with....Jeannie in Lakeport California
I think if your goal is to stay out of the hospital, you’re probably be fine with what you already have. If however, you’re immunocompromised or are trying to avoid becoming infected. You may want to consider another dose.
So we need to go to thermal pools when we have covid or have long hot baths. Seems like an easy solution in my city. I can easily go to thermal pools here. Although thermal pools are usually around 38-39 degree so it might not be effective but indoor thermal pools(basically Turkish hamams) also has sauna effect so it might be enough together
Thanks so much for this valuable information. Do you think a hot long shower also helps? I think it helps me, it's all I have. Bless you ❤️
Wondering about the role of the innate immune system (interferon) in fighting bacterial infections i.e. Lyme disease as opposed to viral infections..
So with that information and the information from your infared light video on covid..... I would guess a infared sauna would work pretty good!!!!!
Interesting!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😮😮😊😊😊😊😊😊
_“You’re interferon with our good time.”_
Simpson, H., 1989.
Modern advent of heated blankets and throws, mean people furnished with a thermometer and care could potentially induce a 39C body temperature to assist with a respiratory viral infection, possibly. My experience of flu (thankfully infrequent and some 20 years ago) included trying to ride the fever that the flu caused as long as I could bear. not easy!
@medcram Anything new to the Pneumonia cases in china ??
If you prevent fever, do you prevent cloths formation during COVID infection?
A Science Immunology article from 2021 titled “Autoantibodies neutralizing type I IFGs are presen in ~4% of uninflected individuals over 70 years old and account for ~20% of COVID-19 deaths” suggests that the bodies ability to use IFN to fight off covid is hinders by auto-Abs neutralizing IFN alpha2/omega. These are present in 10% of their N = 3000+ study. Would you still recommend hydrotherapy in the case of someone with these circulating Abs?
It may not be the only way it helps in infection.
A fascinating terse talk, to start with, thank you👏
How powerful, fair, n wise Nature is, creating in the human body weakness points and the antidote for that😮.
As for the treatment of viral infections-at the least, we doctors are giving the wrong advice of lowering a sick child’s temperature to “save” him from fever whilst ironically his fever is “attempting” to save him! Isn’t it time we rectify our recommendations?! There’s a major obstacle herein though, to convince poorly informed parents that fever is a sick child’s friend!
More, yes, fever was used as a means to treat serious infections like syphilis, inducing malaria infection as mentioned, but also to my readings also inducing typhoid for ex.!
And If ,, low temperature agglutinine,, occur after infection,may be must maintain higher lung temperature,using warmed oxigen mix ?
@MedCram any opinions on the new pneumonia?
Dr. Seheult do you think the interferon response would have a positive effect on leukemia patients?
Not sure.
Not only interferon induce fever.
If antigen bind with antibody fever can occur also by different mechanisms
May be at vaccinated fever occur rapidly after contamination?
🎉From Dr Seheult, taking hot bath is an excellent idea to increase IFN but it has 2 problems:
1. The IFN amount would not increase unless one goes from room temperature to a much hotter temperature, thus staying in a hot bath does not produce this delta in temperature change.
2. Would COVID be spread much easier on the sauna, thus sauna is not a good idea?
We’re talking about a hot bath or fermentations over 20 minutes. I’m not sure your points are related to that.
Unfortunaly, when a person with viral infection and slight fever go to see the allopathic doctors, they invariably give medication to reduce fever.
Not invariably
If at elderly some antiinterferon antibody occur,did they have specificity against different type of interferon ?
Some do have antibodies. Not sure how specific it is. There was a study that showed that these people had more severe Covid.
@@Medcram may be because interferon induce fever,many elderly did not have fever when viral infection occur ?
And If(?) SARS COV2 (may be??) is a ,, temperature sensive,,virus,like rhinoviruses ,fever can mitigate SARS COV2 infection.
Did we know what are the restrictive temperature of new variants of SARS COV2 ?
Can you use an electric blanket if well monitored instead of the hot wet towels?
I’d consider this one if you do:
www.thermophore.com/
I conducted a test with an electric blanket, which resulted in a significantly lower increase in my body temperature compared to using the bathtub method. Also, I had some concerns regarding excessive sweating and electricity (risk of electric shock?).
I wonder if far infrared heat pads could achieve the same results?🤔
The lymphocytes need to feel that heat. If they do we get interferon. I’m sure there’s more going on as well.
This is crazy!
When I get severely ill with virus or infection, my body temperature drops to 95 or even 94 degrees, which is hypothermic. No one will tell me why. I know I’m immunocompromised. I am wondering if there’s any wise medical insight to be offered. Profusely sweating with a 95 degree body temp while severely ill, is a living hell. I have to use heating pads to fight the chills, even tho I soak everything with sweat. I always hope the heating element I add to bath to keep it hot, won’t electrocute me someday. 😊
So much about me is backwards, upside down, and alien. I’ve paradoxical biochemistry, which means I have opposite reactions to drugs, anesthetics don’t work (numbing agents, or sedatives for surgery) as I wake up repeatedly screaming during surgeries. It’s even happened where every blood pressure machine in the clinic could not detect any blood pressure on me at all. Quel Mystere, right?
I just wish I could figure out what specialty at a teaching hospital to apply to. There’s got to be doctors who might see the intrigue of a mystery, by actually believing me.
@malaikamillions Regarding the electric heating element you referenced, please be careful. I utilized a portable electric heater to heat a bathtub and failed to recognize that it was electrifying the water. The realization only came after experiencing a significant electric shock while standing barefoot on the ground (initially, my footwear prevented the electric current from completing the circuit (closed loop), leaving me unaware of the electrified water). Had I been inside the bathtub, simply touching the wall would have closed the electrical circuit, potentially resulting in electrocution or drowning.
Would this maybe help Long Covid as well for healing and fast recovery?
Perhaps
I've had long covid and sauna made it worse like pem. I think it increases il6 too much. It was great before I had long covid.
That’s an interesting reaction.
I heard recently that Ivermectin stimulates the production of Interferon Type 1. Could you do a session on that?
May survey of the data found that it reduces it.
Do we know whether vaccination per se has any impact on innate immunity and interferon response please?
It appears to boost the innate immune system:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8438292/
That’s interesting thank you.
This part is also interesting:
“However, excessive host innate immune responses possibly lead to cytokine storms and/or tissue damage, inhibiting the efficacy of influenza virus mRNA vaccines. Therefore, mRNA-induced innate immunity must be controlled to reduce excessive inflammation while retaining antibody production.”
Is it reasonable to think if your body were to be rejecting a hip replacement your innate immune system may or would be in overdrive fighting the foreign materials of the hip replacement? I know this is not on subject with the virus talk but it got me curious thinking in these terms.
As strange as it seems there seems to be health benefits from the simple act of humming. Does increase the production of NOX. What has any one else aware of?
People need to stop treating fever too! Same with cough!
May be ,,mask wearing,, increase also upper respiratory temperature and theoretically diminish SARS COV2 replication?
At TWiV 659 at min29 virologist Christian Drosten suggest that SARS COV2 better replicate at very low tissue temperature.
many have been very vocal about that from the start, a shame they got suppressed, could have saved many lives .. natural immunity, after all ^^
Allopathic medicine might have dropped hydrotherapy but I've been treated by naturopathic hydrotherapy.
Not all allopathic medicine. 😀
Not everybody has the luxury of having a hot cold shower, or hot tub, at home.
Fomentations require a heat source, water, and cloth. That’s it. Hot tubs are merely more convenient ways of applying the science. I don’t have a hot tub either at the moment. I use the simple techniques used in the video.
Dr John Campbell did a video three years ago on a very promising study using interfering beta, I wonder whatever happened to that? It was cheap as I remember.
The randomized control trial was done and reported here. We discussed hydrotherapy in March of 2020. Not many have discussed this. Not sure why.
@@MedcramThanks. Oh it was Synairgen very positive up to phase 2 trials.
Hot water doesnt increase .pharm profits.
Yeah, my concern is for human lives in a time without medical infrastructure. Medication has its place. A pandemic creates special needs. Needs that usually cannot be met by the usual supply chain and traditional health care delivery. It’s why we need to think outside the box. Things that people aren’t doing. Neither label or off label medications will be available. That’s why it’s a false dichotomy.
Why bother with hydro anything?
They invented this thing called an electric blanket.
They even can be temperature controlled.
He did mention why, but I’m having one of these moments where I wish I could explain what champagne coolers and space suits had in common to simplify the explanation.
@@JazzTechie: transfer of heat is most efficient from immersion in water. That said, I use heat pads to extend the benefits of hot tub immersion.
Because humidity means that the body struggles to cool itself down, as sweating becomes more ineffective as heat + humidity increases.
Exactly.
The electro-magnetic fields from the device is counter productive to proper cell function. See, Dr. Robert O. Becker.
Is it really “just fine” to allocate resources to developing expensive pharmaceutical interventions, which we don’t fully understand the mechanism of rather than utilizing nature? One of the most allopathic statements have ever come out of your mouth. 😉
I have the benefits of seeing patients at multiple points along their path. In the clinic I see them often before they get disease. In the intensive care unit I see them after they have disease and while they are dying of it.
I wish you could see what we do in the intensive care unit. You would see that many lives were saved from the use of developed pharmaceuticals. This allowed them to live long enough to invoke lifestyle changes to bring about the true change. However, if it wasn’t for pharmaceuticals used appropriately in that setting, they would be dead. I know that’s a hard pill for you to swallow but it’s reality.
@@Medcram Funny you should say because I am a seasoned ICU registered nurse ;) CCRN, TNCC, SCRN, CPAN. I think many patients could be saved from MICU/CCU/CVICU if we figured out cause prior to extreme tertiary treatment. Many of these patients were failed in the community prior to getting to me, intubated. I fully appreciate the remarkable powers of the ICU and used to love working there before becoming injured, gaslit, placed on meds (not fully understood) resulting in my deterioration. I watch a lot of your videos and have the most respect for you and have often thought “more critical care physicians should be as inquisitive as this brilliant human”. ❤️
@@azurec6001 I appreciate your response. I wish you well and I agree that many critical care patients could have been saved the injustice of having to be in the ICU. Education is the key.
Hey ...do you think you can do a lecture on 1gg4 antibodies and the silent immune storm in the body...when you vax ...then infected .....and timing it would happen in ...if it were to be a risk and who is in danger ...lots of talk about this
Maybe 10 mg sildenafil twice per day.
GERD a cause of IPF?
Yes
John Harvey Kellogg refined carb guru 🤦♀️
Not exactly. I think you are attributing the carbs thing from his brother who actually founded the cereal company with the same name.
@@Medcram Thank u for clarifying 🙏🏻☺️
Great, but I'd call it *Thermotherapy* rather than Hydrotherapy.
Some call it hydrothermotherapy.
Remember though that the therapy ends on cold. So hydrotherapy might be more accurate.
@@Medcram So maybe *HyperThermoTherapy* ;)
Interferon needs to be more well understood and that understanding needs to be more widespread. I never get fevers, but I'm sick all the time. Turns out that it's low interferon gamma production due to infantile isolation.
There's no word for that, at least that I know of, so I have to go into a whole thing about my backstory and an unreplicated study on primates to explain it to people, which is not the most trustworthy of explainations, understandably, but it's the only thing that fits my symptoms and history to a T.
Now, they have interferon gamma injections, but I'd have to have hep c to get a prescription for it, and as a lifetime-immunocompromized, disabled person, there is no way I could ever afford it.
Protein clots?????
Talk to me about the adverse reactions globally being orders of magnitude greater for covid vaccines over everything previous to them.
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