Keep using that "Daady chill" clip.... It NEVER gets old and only gets funnier... Like Simon's historical knowledge! He should also check out the "view bar" as the VAST MAJORITY of viewers are obviously skipping his rants and "insights"
years ago my dad took me after owning a restaurant himself to a swiss chalet and said ill order a large ice cream you get small and his wife had a large pop she did not drink we both ate it then she filled my small and hteni was told to pour it into the large guess what exactly same they did gt sued for that eventually
We do have actual consumer watchdogs in a certain sense, but generally American corporations work from a business model of "if the profits are more than the fine, then it's not illegal."
@@nicholasnewell6360exactly, if they can pay the fines or pay people to shut up or pay to get the right person in politics they will do it over being “legal”…. Maybe a potential good example is electric cars, the materials needed to make them are mined in nations by American companies destroying the people around it. If that happened here they’d have to pay more, so they do it there 😑
Most likely the FTC. An underfunded, under-resourced punching bag of an agency for all the moneyed interests in Washington. Any time anyone in the US Government tries to improve things for consumers (like making sure that, for example, bread is actually bread and tuna is actually tuna) the House of Representatives, filled with the wholly-owned "elected" officials doing the bidding of Big Biz, just takes away their budget. No debate, no law, no nothing, just "We don't think they should get money" and that's it (because currently the GOP holds a majority in the House, and the Constitution gives the House of Representatives the "power of the pursestrings"). Whereas the Democrats would be expected to provide a basis for the change (and would do so with enough presentations and evidence to choke a horse) and would still have to convince people that 2+2=4.
@@MusicalSeizureGuy To be fair, those minerals are always going to be necessary in our modern world in some amount, and all of the sources of materials that go into electric cars already existed long before they started selling to car companies going electric, so I don't think it's fair at all to blame electric cars for those mines. Besides, it's not like the same wasn't happening for materials that were going into luxury and high performance ICE cars as well.
There was a Subway right near Jared's dorm room. He went there because of a girl that worked that he was bugging. She asked for a transfer to one a bit farther away. That is when he started walking to the other store to harass her there. THAT is how he lost that weight.
I wonder if she could have gotten a restraining order? I imagine in today's climate, lawsuit pending, she probably could. It's done for much less. I wonder how old she was, considering his age preference.
@@marshawargo7238 In my experience the restraining order hardly does a thing and is exceedingly hard to get due to the law's attitude of; "Well he just likes you, he hasn't done anything bad, stop over reacting".
Surprised you didn’t cover Subways alleged shady business practices around their exploitative franchising and fostering of exploitative employment policies
Oh that is something to cover because that really harmed immigrants in the US. Their shady business and franchising destroyed peoples lives that came here and opened up a subway. Then watched it get ripped away from them for no reason.
There was a really good German investigative report on Subway franchises a couple of years ago. You can watch some of it here: th-cam.com/video/7VtZS8kVAsg/w-d-xo.html
I think the least egregious thing is the length of the hoagies. As someone who has done prep work for the last few years making everything exactly the portion size it says on the menu is extremely time consuming. So depending on the seasonal menu. I could have between 38 to 42 items to prep and portion everyday and each one takes time. 1st year i was very diligent in making sure everything was correctly portioned or weighed out, but i would spend 10 -12 hours doing that. 2nd year i realized that 99.9% of people are not going to notice whether their portion size was 0.1 or 0.2 ounces over or under. Most sane human beings are not going to complain that their spaghetti was over/under by 1 or 2 noodles. That is my take on that aspect of the story.
For ingredients they add a fixed amount, a specific number of equal size slices or a certain number of scoops of something. And the slices are created my a factory to be as close to the same size each, meaning the shop employees would not need to do much preparation apart from picking out the containers. So think the sandwiches really are very very close to equal :)
It's the same with our law, our law books make yours look like comic's but yet both countries basically have the same laws, we have some very weird ones too like you can shoot a Scotsman with a bow and arrow in the city of York but only in the city of York 😅
@@dicksplatts007While that's hilarious, it's unfortunately (or fortunately if you're Scottish) a myth. A real one though is that it's illegal to walk a cow through the street in daylight hours.
@@ardenalexa94 stems from when the English and Scots were at war probably from around the time that braveheart is based. If you ever go to York there's a plaque on the wall of the main gate of the old city grounds that says "all Scots must report to the sheriff"
The kind of lawsuits you mention here are not to get money. It’s to give the company a kick in the ass and for them to stop screwing over their customers. (And for the lawyers to make a crap load of cash, obviously)
Lawyers mount class-action suits because the plaintiffs may not get much but there are a lot of them and so the profit's there. This is because they have children to feed. The Govt., via the law, allows this. It's like the scrapyard Rottweiler... :D
I knew the tuna thing was bullshit. I worked at many Subway stores when I was younger and when we mixed to tuna with the light mayo, we were at first opening giant cans and the giant pouches of brand-name StarKist tuna. We would open the cans, drain and press out the liquid inside (water), break up the tuna into the smallest bits possible, and then mix it with an unhealthy amount of "light" mayonnaise. It was definitely tuna. In the end the turkey or roast beef sandwiches were healthier, but it was definitely tuna.
DNA Amplification is a novel process of, among other things, restoring critically damaged DNA. The process of heating a piece of meat to sanitize it will damage it, as will exposing it to a wet salting process such as is used in storing fish in cans and pouches. In short, almost any preparation of tuna that would allow it to be stored more than a day or two will damage the DNA to the point that DNA amplification would be less than reliable, and would decrease rapidly the more the tuna was diluted or stored. This is, incidentally, true for basically all forms of animal protein.
Yall are missing a key component: They had *no* amplify able DNA. They gave it a DNA test and it came back negative for DNA. Ether it was entirely inorganic or the cooking process destroyed enough of the DNA to make determining something as basic as species impossible. If the former, a chemical analysis would be needed to determine the inorganic material. Ether way, a DNA test isn't relevant if there is no detectable DNA.
@Simon - the reason for these class-action lawsuits is that it can be very difficult to convince the government's truth-in-advertising elements without a lawsuit - and that suit needs to be high-profile enough to get on their radar. It is really more about that than gaining money.
Nah, lots of stuff and big organizations require fda approval and inspections to open or remain open. The person who said that quote didn't know what they were talking about.
The reason that is, is because many things we eat are safe when eaten in moderation. Usually, the amount needed to make you sick, is so high no one would be able to eat that much. In Europe, if it can make someone sick even in high quantities, it's banned. Like the guy that died from drinking Mt. Dew which has brominated vegetable oil in it. The thing they didn't say is, he drank something like 5 two liter bottles a day, for many many years before he got sick from it. Anything will make you sick if you consume enough of it. Even water.
As brianm said that is technically false, but in practice there is a good chance that a person might need to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt for it to be banned, and even then only in 18 more years. The problem is that in addition to not being able to change with the times, the structure of the United States' Food and Drug Administration was never anywhere near perfected to begin with. The same can be said for a lot of things in government, they aren't being maintained. The reason being that corrupt politicians (mostly Republicans) prevent anything good from being done in government, in fact so much needs to be done that things like allowing the FDA to function aren't really a priority when so many Republicans are denying even the measures that just allow life on Earth to continue. The good news is the Trump presidency has revealed to many of us who the bad actors are, and some changes were put in place because of the pandemic that allowed the FDA to take a widely distributed fraudulent drug off the market although I'm sure that pseudofedrine or whatever it's called made news in Europe too. Actually, I'm not sure it's been taken off the shelves yet, I think the FDA just ruled that it is bad, and now something else needs to happen.
In Capitalist America, everything is made of sugar. Except the sugar. That is high fructose corn syrup. And I'm aware of naturally occurring sugars in fruit and other things. Stop it! When you hear sugar, you think of sugar from a cane plant. Not corn.
One of the things I enjoyed in Europe was that you can buy soft drinks (soda/pop) without added sugar that also doesn't use artificial sugar and it tasted great. European food laws make Australia look dodgy, let alone the US.
Says it all that whenever the Australian government look to tighten up regulations for something the first place they look at for the best way to do it is the EU... then they look at what Australians will actually accept without complaining about a nanny state and water it down.
I mean if you look at labels if it’s sold in California they make companies follow more strict guidelines stating “the state of California recognizes said ingredients are known to be carcinogenic” but yet they still use and sell said products.. but a lot of products will have that label.god only knows how bad it really is if they don’t ship and sell the products to California
@@LongNickOfDaLaw I've not seen that warning. I Have seen "not available in California" or another variation indicating that California don't play them games or probably the court is too backed up?
I absolutely love the casual criminalist about jared fogle. Yes, its horrible listening but it explains everything in so much detail that you get the whole story plus you get to see simon get blown away by the weight loss in pretty much the exact way.
The Jared Fogel video was absolutely eye-opening to me. I only had a vague idea that Jared was a p3d0. But the lengths he went through boggles the mind!
I'd never heard of him, but thereagain, our local Subway only lasted about 6 months, before it closed, so we get very little advertising and I don't remember the Jared case hitting the news here. I did work in the local city for a while and there was a Subway next to the office and we got a discount, but I probably ate there less than once a month on average, I usually went to one of the local cafés or street food vendors. The Subway stuff was way too sweet and the bread didn't taste like real bread - my wife bakes fresh bread and we make our own flour from whole grains, with only natural ingredients. The other shops used bread from local bakers, baked with whole grains and no artificial additives.
Same here. I knew what he had done but subway isn't that big in the UK. Yeah we have a load of stores but the whole thing with mascots and spokespersons are very American so when it all went down it didn't hit our TVs or newspapers. I think I found out about it through family guy or something and had to Google him to understand the reference but even then there was basically no info on what he did.
Fun fact, Krispy Kreme weren't allowed to open stores here in Australia until they changed the recipe for their donuts because one of the chemical ingredients is banned for food production here, and has been linked to life threatening illness including cancer. However, their recipe remains unchanged in America...
@@thyubernoob the fact you see "possibly getting cancer" as just "part of eating junk food" says A LOT. I don't understand the mindset of "that's just how it is," especially when I just explained how it doesn't just "have to be like that" because we forced the corporation to change their recipe to comply with our laws. The US could do the same if they had any interest in public health rather than constantly pandering to and bending over backwards to accommodate the desires of big business.
@@danmoar94the fact you see "possibly getting cancer" and then stop thinking is generally not a good mindset. The fact is no matter what you do you will encounter things that give you cancer, the actual statistical likelyhood matters. If a chemical increases risk of cancer but at the levels present in an item the estimated number of customers who will develop cancer as a result of the consumption over the course of a century is below 1 then regulating it out isn't really doing much. You can't just see "it causes cancer" and decide nothing else matters turn your brain off. Literally breathing causes cancer. Every breath you take literally directly introduces free radicals into your bloodstream each one has a chance to come in contact with the wrong cell in the wrong situation and react with the DNA to cause a mutation leading to cancer. You can never completely eliminate risk, you need to manage risk and measure it's actual chances of causing real issues.
As a fellow bread enthusiast and baker, you dont bleach the bread, you bleach the flour and condition the dough....so your bread was "likely" bleached. Its like the bromide thing too
I thought/heard that in order to Get white bread/products you have to bleach the wheat, or else it's a wheat product. But I really don't know for fact (not a baker). The dilemma, I imagine, is How/with What, it's bleached.
In US law (and I'm pretty sure UK law too) there are two kinds of suit judgements. Compensatory and Punitive. Compensatory damages are sought to recover money lost due to negligence or crime, and can include emotional damage. Punitive damages are extra money taken as a punishment, aimed at making the company wary of doing a shady thing again or to force them to sharpen up enforcement or quality so an accident is less likely to strip them of cash again.
I'm Dutch and we have a subway in Lelystad where I live too, but they're too expensive and the food is not even close to mediocre it outright sucks. They'll be sure to go out of business soon.
Simon, as you predicted Subway didn't see the benefit of playing an ad during this video for some reason. But, "Jersey Mike's" a Subway alternative here in the US was happy to get in on the action and totally pushed an ad during this video.
Jersey Mike's was a huge disappointment although they DO have proper red cherry pepper spread, which is common the East Coast but practically impossible to find on the West Coast. If you ever happen to be in NY, go find an outfit called Jreck's Subs. It's inexpensive and quite good in my opinion.
@@ConcreteLand It's funny what tasting how things can and possibly should taste like can do to you. Learn to make it yourself. 10 mins effort, hours of letting the yeast go to work, bung it in the oven.
Never understood people freaking out over bread until I started making my own. Now, everything else from the stores tastes like CAKE! I HATE IT!!! -sobs into sunbeam loaf-
OK, that wasn't so bad... the bread is basically a glazing away from being a Crispy Creme doughnut, the subs are shorter than advertised so they can min-max their profits, the tuna is an indeterminate organic substance that may or may not be derived from some form of sea-life, and American corporations are waaaay more focused on how food looks and how much money they can make off it than how it tastes or how nutritious it is. Good vid! Good lunch too, even if I'm not entirely sure what was in it haha! Seems like a perfect spot for one of my go-to movie quotes -- from Man-at-Arms in the live-action Masters of the Universe movie: "Food is food. Never think when you're hungry." 😄
@@olencone4005 "...more focused on how food looks..." Yes! It's everything though, not just food. Appearance far more important than substance sadly in almost every walk of life, and not just The US either. Remember an Italian and British chef TV show collab. They visited a bakery in Italy. It looked like a falling down sh*thole, but people went there because the bread was amazing. They both agreed that they wouldn't be in business in the UK. No flashing lights, no bright and clean plastic frontage. Nothing in fact to distract you from the sub standard final product.
Subway knew about Jared's escapades for years. There is great info about the investigative journalist who approached Subway with all the bad information about Jared and his Subway handler. She tried to contact Subway with her report, but Subway ignored her.
@@7-ten Sure, Simon gets payed and the company gets a commercial that people does remember, it was the "selling hair products with a bald man" I mean to be the whole idea because its so contradictory.
The USA will let things they know are harmful go on for decades after the rest of the world bans them because of money in politics. The rest of the world banned lead-based paint in the 1920s or 30s America didn’t do it until the 70s.
The us is more worried about germs than chemicals. It’s why the us does stuff like clean our eggs before selling them despite this destroying a protective layer on them
RE: sanitary product tax Depends on the particular sanitary product, but some were available free with the NHS if they were considered reusable(so diva cups for example), while almost everything else was 5%(because they're under the same category as soap, shampoo, and toothpaste). Honestly I'm still annoyed at that. In 1995 there was a petition to remove VAT from all products like that, it's not like keeping teeth healthy or washing is a luxury; but it was declined. Then when the movement looked like it was finally gaining traction and looked like it might get reconsidered in 2000 the whole thing got pushed aside to address the problem that a portion of the VAT was paid on products only women buy. We could have had a huge win for everybody, but instead got a small win for just women. I really wish the original proposal had passed, it's dumb any product in the category isn't considered essential; and I can't help but feel the focus on pads/tampons was deliberate in an effort to keep the tax on everything else. After 2001 everyone seems to have forgotten about getting rid of tax on everything else which probably made quite a bit of tax over the last 22 and a bit years.
In much of the world, things aren't allowed until they're shown to be safe. In the US, things aren't banned until proven UNsafe. And then they get "phased out" over a period until the end of time if an outright ban would negatively impact business interests
Subway franchise owners have said it's a very hard franchise to make money with, this is the only franchise I've ever seen where every franchise owner decides if they are going to accept coupons printed by the company who's name is on their door. It's one of the best known yet poorly run franchise's in the world.
Circle K does the same thing. I went in one I don't usually go to & was shocked that using my card didn't get the discount on cigarettes as every other Circle K
My friend told me a story (so it may well be a wives tale) about someone complaining about their "footlong" sub only being 11in, so the employee took the sandwich, squished the shit out of it so it was then 13in long, cut off the extra inch, and gave it back with a smug "now it's 12in".
that's how to answer a "Karen" like it said in the video they get the dough in portions of weight... so they get the same volume, did they measure the thickness...? i make bread everyday at work and it doesn't always come out the same way
@@mojo8253 As someone who eats bread, I thank you for your work! As I said, I didn't experience the situation I mentioned first-hand, but I know from various different personal experiences that bakers are not likely to be shorting people in any way. I mean, ffs, a "baker's dozen" is 13!
I worked at a Subway in my home town for 8 hours... I took the uniform back that night after working 7am to 3pm, running the entire store before noon because the manager left early with a hangover and the other worker stood on the phone her entire shift. Also after seeing how everything was made and shipped in, with bags of produce without dates or labels, I couldnt eat there again...
Was very similar to working for other large multi location non food brands, albeit technically franchisee's in subway, but the dynamic was not noticeably different to how store managers don't have much autonomy in other brands anyway. Because it's food, it just seems so much worse. Utter hypocrisy throughout the system. It's known by everyone that the standards set are both unrealistic and never followed, but everyone has to pretend that they are. Same attitude seems to be followed by the food standards folk too, which is disturbing. No different to how things work in other areas sadly. Take fork lifts. Everyone knows, including the instructors, they are often open about it, that how you're supposed to use them is completely different to how they will be used. All bollocks unfortunately. I think it's basically shifting the blame onto the lowest employee if/when something goes wrong. "We've shown you the correct way, but you were doing it in a different way, it's your fault." Conveniently forgetting it's impossible to do it the right way. You either just get on with it, or refuse and leave and someone else will take your place doing it wrong.
I worked at a Subway for several months. The GM gave me the keys to the store after like a month. One day out of the blue, I was texted that I'm fired. Lol All that I can think, is that her daughter got mad that I wouldn't sleep with her (I had a serious girlfriend, that I later married, and the daughter also had a boyfriend) Her name was Chastity 😅. I guess that she made something up about me and told her mom. I still eat subway tho.
I work in the industrial baking sector, adjacent to the factories that make the frozen bread for Subway. Yes, there is a lot of sugar in it. Up to 15%. Sugar is actually the cheapest anti-roping (prevents mold) agent you can use. Regular bread - flour, water, salt and yeast - only has a shelf life of a day or two. If you add sugar into it, the shelf life goes up to about a week or more. That is also the same reason why McDonalds buns just... dry out... instead of getting moldy. There's heaps of sugar AND anti-roping agents, and of course, plenty of canola oil.
I was appalwd when I went to the UK. Came back and literally wven our bread is TWICE as much sugar. And somehow all of their bars have fresh peas. It's insane how good and how cheap their food is. Americans would be so PISSED if they ever bothered to see how good the rest of the world has it.
@Loralanthalas I watch the TH-cam channel called Sorted. They constantly do meal challenges. It can be £5 meal or £20 3 meals 2 portions of each. Lots of budget meals honestly. I always think how in the heck would I cook 3 meals for $20 let alone $30. Even if I did vegetarian, which I don't do often. I love me some lentils, white beans and quinoa, but if memory serves a package of quinoa is about $5 minimum. Lentils are probably around $3. Beans are probably $2. I have my grandma's Better Homes and Gardens budget cookbook. It's got interesting recipes. I believe they use lamb as a replacement for chicken. If it's not lamb it's a different surprising meat choice. We Americans really have it bad.
you metioned that subway use the same set ammount of fillings no matter how long the sandwiches are. on the rare occasion i go i usually have hearty ittalian and while most branches add 5 slices of both salami and pepperoni a few branches only add 3 of each. i allways find their reaction entertaining when i wait untill its been grilled before telling them why i dont want it, refusing to pay, and going somewhere else instead. its like ordering a big mac and the local branch chosing to only include a single burger / layer while still charging full price
In America we have this thing called "class action lawsuits". If a lot of people have been injured by the same -- oh, let's call it alleged fraud in this case -- one such person can file a suit and apply for "class" status. This means that everyone in the country injured by the same act is included in the class unless they specifically opt out. These settlements are often for many millions, but usually the amounts paid out to each plaintiff are minuscule. The real winners are the law firms, which take a large cut of the settlement as a fee. So you get a lot of garbage class action lawsuits because some law firms actively seek out plaintiffs so as to file them. They can be immensely profitable.
I worked for saputo (dairy giant in U.S and Canada) for a month and the short time I was retained was due to the fact that my time sheet kept getting "lost" .eventually I couldn't afford to even drive to work and was "fired". But as karma would have it 3 months later I received a letter in the mail stating that a class action lawsuit was filed against the dairy company for failure to pay several hundred employees their wages. I sure as shit entered the case to get what I was entitled to. I won a whole 8 dollars but those dollars felt like JUSTICE!. Kick rocks saputo.
Late 90s in college in kirksville, mo, subway offered free six inch cold cut trios with the purchase of a large mountain dew for an entire summer. $1.24 a day food budget for my 19 yr old bum ass lol
Former subway employee, the bread is frozen in what is essentially just logs, we thaw them and let the yeast expand, proof them and then throw them in the first machine (typically the one on the bottom, looks like an oven it's not) which hydrates the bread and facilitates the actual rising and such, then they are baked. The size of the bread is not indicative of how much dough or such was used, as they are all identical, really the only thing missed out on is lettuce, as that is the ONLY topping where we do not deliver a preset ammount, merely a range we try to shoot for.
That's kinda of cool. Probably why sugars are higher. Yeast need it. The process you describe means the bread is going to baked fresh. It's kinda brilliant actually
Here in the US, class action lawsuits are basically get-rich-quick schemes for lawyers. The plaintiffs might make a buck or two (literally), but the lawyers make millions.
@@amber_amber62 The corollary is that it also makes things easier for companies to pay off a single lump sum and "stop worrying about it" compared to a continuous parade of individual cases. It's cheaper for them this way most of the time as well.
@@amber_amber62 Where does the idea "It's the only way" come from? Like Simon Says (pause for effect, LOL) we Americans need to be able to report these issues and they need to be checked into. At that point if they are found to be in violation of anything they need to be required by law to correct it. If they 'knowingly' did wrong or caused harm they need to be fined and that money needs to support the part of the government that looks into these issues as well as pay for damages. We also need some 'Full Disclosure Truth in Advertising Laws' that make it illegal to misrepresent or lie about the hazards and or benefits of a product or service. Unfortunately, when companies can make into the Billions of dollars per year doing us wrong and can keep it legal with a Million dollar lobbying budget, very little if anything will change in America. If you believe I'm wrong about this, just look into what happened with supplements... After a bit of lobbying our representatives decided to just let supplement companies self regulate. I find it sickening that lawyers in the USA hunt for issues where they can file a Class Action suit that's basically a get rich quick scheme. For instance, they are currently running one against Verizon because they charged extra fees on their phone bills over a number of years. Like, if their customers didn't like the fees and didn't want to pay them they could have dropped their service and went with a different company. However, they paid and now there is a $100,000,000.00 (That's One Hundred Million) lawsuit against them. According to the documentation the lawyers will receive $33,000,000.00 (That's Thirty Three Million) plus expenses out of that, or roughly 33% plus expenses. WTF? Ever wonder why your wireless bills are so expensive and you don't get free upgrades on your phones any more?
I worked at subway for 2 years and the tuna is literally just starkist tuna but comes in a bigger tear open aluminum pouch instead of a can. Tuna stopped being part of the $5 foot long deals because it cost more than that to make a sandwich so after they removed it.
Sooo, in reality, it should be Starkist being sued? Subway defense: "Dude it's not our fault, we only opened the cans, they're to blame on what comes out!" hehehe
From the UK but having lived in southern Illinois for over 3 years I was reduced to eating rye bread as every single loaf of everything else was sodden with sugar! Even the tasty looking wholemeal from the 'Wholefood' shop! Thank God for the good ol' british bloomer :)
when it comes to simons confusion on why people file class action lawsuits, i would imagine most people do it just to make a company pay a lot of money
Only reason I ever signed up. Was surprised as hell when Wells Fargo sent me $17. They've spent a few years now trying to get me to cash it. So I know they're obligated to pay. They just sent me a replacement $17 check a few months back. I keep it on one of the shelves in my mantel.
The best Popeye's is like 50mi for me (Salt Lake City) at Hill AFB (just outside Riverdale, Roy, and Layton UT). The KFCs that are close are better than the close Popeye's somehow.
Boston Market stole me away from KFC... tho it didn't hurt that it was MUCH easier to get in and out of Boston Market's parking lot than the convoluted maze of my local KFC :P
Huge queues outside of a newly opened franchise is quite normal. It's something different, so people want to try it. It's like when Shake Shack and Five Guys opened up in Hong Kong, I would have to wait over an hour to get in. Now, there's no queue.
Can confirm Wimpy does still exist my side of London! The food has actually improved (somewhat), though got a fair bit more expensive than its competitors.
"What's wrong with bread": I am with you on that Simon. But the reason is: large parts of the western world have no idea how to make actual, tasty bread. Like even the crap my 50EUR bread machine churns out with minimal effort (if I use the right flour) is mostly better than what I had in many expensive places.
Remember having a Subway on my postal round. I always hated going near, let alone in it if it had mail. The smell always made me gag. Never had that with a chippie or any other fast food place.
I believe matpat on food theory covers a couple of these cases. I know he covered the tuna suit. From what I remember it was kinda a nut job suit. In short most labs wouldn’t even accept the subway tuna to do the experiment. I believe it was to keep their prestige because it’s kinda a general rule that when meats are cooked the DNA in the meat degrades significantly. The lady also changed her argument a couple times too I think.
It's basically, cooking is the act of breaking down food ahead of time before it enters our bodies so it is easier to digest. Of course cooking it achieves the goal of breaking it down, to the point of it not being able to be DNA tested. That is what cooking IS.
With those kinds of cases, you get into the realm of “punitive damages.” The idea is that you can find a person or company so heavily that it will punish their misdeeds and discourage further poor behavior by them or others. So it isn’t really about Johnny Lawsuit getting a cool $500K so much as it is about Subway getting slapped and told to stop that.
In America there is a push for greater disclosure of food ingredients. I've visited Scotland and specifically London and noticed a large difference in food quality. Everything tastes better, and I got more energy from what I ate. Here, there are Aldi's and Lidls. The food offerings that are imported from Germany still follow the German purity laws as well as locally sourced veggies and fruits. While this isn't a huge change, it is a beginning in our small town. As for the sugar content the market has been changing the past few years. The obesity is a result of not only sugar consumption but also serving size, even in upscale restaurants. This is a result of personal preference concerning what a person eats. And, granted, the food industry pushes sugar because it is a addictive ingredient. Especially true for 'fast food' vendors.
Sugar is also addictive and makes the brain happy, so you'll more likely believe the food there was good cause your brain says so. Once 1 chain restaurant started doing that to their products, the others followed suit. All these additives of fats, sugars, salts and then the manufactured whatever is far cheaper than having quality ingredients along with having a much longer shelf life so that there's less possible waste as well, adding more to the bottom line.
Over here is Australia it is a legal requirement for all prices to include taxes, so what you see on the shelf is what you pay, be it at a major chain store or a family run corner shop in the middle of nowhere that somehow supports Apple Pay.
I had Subway the other day for the first time in about 4 years. It was so flavorless if it hadn’t been for being able to taste the chips, I would have taken a C-19 test.
I mostly stay away from "processed" foods here in US. My son brought home Dominoes, which I hadn't had in decades (although I remember liking it). I swear I could smell the chemicals in it. I can't eat it anymore.
What's that Tim Minchin rant..? "Everything is chemicals!" I'm sure you can smell the acetyl pyrroline in that pizza as soon as the box comes in the door - very distinctive chemical odor, that one (this is the chemical created in the process of baking gluten-containing bread).
As someone who lived in Germany for a few years I can confirm, European food is generally way healthier than American food. Everything tastes different, even the KFC biscuits.
I spent a summer in Nice back in 99. It was the best and most carried food I've ever experienced. I miss it. American food is largely trash. And the worst part, the fresh vegetables that aren't 100% visually appealing get thrown away. Because it won't sell as well.
My highschool friend did bio-chem in university, and went on to become the chief process chemist for a couple of different large breweries now owned by InBev. So, yeah, food chemistry is a thing.
yup...majority of all snack foods are chem'd up. Doritos for example have 23 different ' flavors ' in the nacho cheese brand alone. why ? to keep your taste buds from getting bored, thus keeping you eating them. since you never grow tired of the taste it's a higher probability you'll finish the bag, and then have to go buy another bag...
Subway was already on the way out even before the whole "we're distabcing ourselves from our former spokesperson" thing, the rapid rise in the cost of a sandwich and simultaneous drop in food quality had already made consumers seek alternatives prior to that point (at least in Australia). It was my go to lunch on pay day for a few years in the mid 2000's, been over a decade since I bought Subway and many franchisees over here have since closed their stores.
Compare Subway to a local Delicatessen and it's no competition. You know the bread is fresh and has no sugar in it. The items are also fresh and much cheaper.
From an American who started out his higher education as a biochemicst, THE FDA (Food and Drug Administration) is owned, lock, stock, and barrel, by the Food and Pharma industry. It is a revolving door of employment between the agency and the industry.
Seem to remember something about McDonalds not getting a licence when it first tried to venture into France for the same reason as Ireland as the food standards agency variant determine the buns to be too sweet and categorised as confectionery, they had to adjust the ingredients. But could just as easily be an urban legend...
I get flashbacks of young TopTenz Simon bald and without a beard sometimes while flipping through my brains roledex of traumatic images I've seen online. ->🤓
Hey Danny...and all the other writers in Simon's basement, how about a script about the weirdest or cringiest or whatever internet memes or trolls or something, with the main purpose being actually to confuse the ever loving shit out of Simon every 5 seconds? I think it could have a lot of potential. Alternatively it could be a new episode of Simon has to guess whether stories of this are real or fake on Decoding the Unknown.
One of the jobs I worked for in college only had a Starbucks and Subway next to it so if I didn't bring my own food, I was screwed lol. Ever since then I've hated both chains. They really took off with $5 footlongs which I don't know how long that lasted.
American here - yes, our food has so many more preservatives and sugars added to it because of our enormous infrastructure and It definitely has always filled me up very fast. My friends always talk about how I eat like a bird, but truly 1/4 to 1/3 of a "meal" purchased from a restaurant fills me up. Anytime we go out to eat, my leftovers always feed me for at least two more meals at home. I think I experience this because the majority of the food that I ate up until I was out of high school was home grown food from our farm. My family grew a LOT of foods and we traded with other farmers in our county for meats and dairy products - and we only ate out maybe once every three months or so.
I always find it funny when Simon is all in on KFC when its probably my last choice of fast food fried chicken. Like...I would rather dig out something from my freezer than is all covered in freezer burn.
Here in the UK, up until pretty recently, KFC was about the only place that you could actually get fried chicken, though there were smaller independent places (and some other smaller chain brand that sold skanky palm oil-soaked chicken), but they were usually crap in comparison, now places like Jollibees & Popeyes have made their way over the pond to british shores (and apparently Czech too), it's giving the colonel a run for his money... :P
@twocvbloke good! Everyone deserves good fried chicken! Personal rec: find a Korean place that serves fried chicken and it will be the best you've had. Lived there for three years and literally never had a bad piece of fried chicken.
back in the 70's and 80's, KFC was top tier fast food. Then something changed, maybe in the recipe as a cost-cutting measure, or maybe it was the elimination of trans fats, I don't know for sure. All I know is it was always good, then suddenly it never was.
Yeah not a huge soobway fan. I find their sandwiches all taste the same (likely due to the cake-bread they use). It's also gotten crazy expensive in the last few years.
27:00 SIMON. Louisiana expat living in Texas here... Popeye's is sooooo good. I don't like fast food chicken sandwiches. I would never order one for myself on purpose... until Popeye's threw their hat in the ring. I'll sure enough get in the car just to go get a spicy chicken sandwich from Popeye's. Even the pickles on it are exceptional! The other must-order is a 2-piece dark, spicy, with red beans and rice. You're SO LUCKY to live in Prague it's SOOOOO gorgeous!!!
"nobody wants their meat wrapped in something sweet" No one tell Simon about doughnuts being used as burger buns, breakfast corn dogs wrapped in presweetened pancake batter, or McGriddles. I used to work in a McDonald's, so I am disgusted/turned away from most of their food, but the McGriddle still entices me from time to time. The savory of the sausage and cheese matches perfectly with the sweetness from the syrup bits in the pancake.
Simon is totally right, I didn't 6 months in Asia and lost 40# eating normally, in fact, having sweets more often, but when I returned to the States, careful of what I ate, I gained it back.
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Takeaway with added hair?
No way we keeps ours
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Keep using that "Daady chill" clip.... It NEVER gets old and only gets funnier... Like Simon's historical knowledge! He should also check out the "view bar" as the VAST MAJORITY of viewers are obviously skipping his rants and "insights"
years ago my dad took me after owning a restaurant himself
to a swiss chalet
and said ill order a large ice cream you get small
and his wife had a large pop she did not drink we both ate it
then she filled my small
and hteni was told to pour it into the large
guess what
exactly same
they did gt sued for that eventually
I wonder how much they pay, it must be humongous, with Simon saying this with a straight face, although, he did have to insert a clip
How can we trust a bald guy to sell us a hair growth product? Just curious :)
“Shouldn’t Subway be fined by whomever your consumer watchdog is?”. Simon, Simon, Simon. Suing someone IS the consumer watchdog mechanism in the US.
We do have actual consumer watchdogs in a certain sense, but generally American corporations work from a business model of "if the profits are more than the fine, then it's not illegal."
@@nicholasnewell6360exactly, if they can pay the fines or pay people to shut up or pay to get the right person in politics they will do it over being “legal”…. Maybe a potential good example is electric cars, the materials needed to make them are mined in nations by American companies destroying the people around it. If that happened here they’d have to pay more, so they do it there 😑
Most likely the FTC. An underfunded, under-resourced punching bag of an agency for all the moneyed interests in Washington. Any time anyone in the US Government tries to improve things for consumers (like making sure that, for example, bread is actually bread and tuna is actually tuna) the House of Representatives, filled with the wholly-owned "elected" officials doing the bidding of Big Biz, just takes away their budget. No debate, no law, no nothing, just "We don't think they should get money" and that's it (because currently the GOP holds a majority in the House, and the Constitution gives the House of Representatives the "power of the pursestrings"). Whereas the Democrats would be expected to provide a basis for the change (and would do so with enough presentations and evidence to choke a horse) and would still have to convince people that 2+2=4.
@@MusicalSeizureGuy To be fair, those minerals are always going to be necessary in our modern world in some amount, and all of the sources of materials that go into electric cars already existed long before they started selling to car companies going electric, so I don't think it's fair at all to blame electric cars for those mines. Besides, it's not like the same wasn't happening for materials that were going into luxury and high performance ICE cars as well.
There was a Subway right near Jared's dorm room. He went there because of a girl that worked that he was bugging. She asked for a transfer to one a bit farther away. That is when he started walking to the other store to harass her there. THAT is how he lost that weight.
Yikes 😳
That sound about right. I seen a picture a few years ago of that Jared guy. I Guess he's a Blimpie now.
Oh that's awful!
I wonder if she could have gotten a restraining order? I imagine in today's climate, lawsuit pending, she probably could. It's done for much less. I wonder how old she was, considering his age preference.
@@marshawargo7238 In my experience the restraining order hardly does a thing and is exceedingly hard to get due to the law's attitude of;
"Well he just likes you, he hasn't done anything bad, stop over reacting".
Surprised you didn’t cover Subways alleged shady business practices around their exploitative franchising and fostering of exploitative employment policies
Nah, we have a different brit for that one 😂
Oh that is something to cover because that really harmed immigrants in the US. Their shady business and franchising destroyed peoples lives that came here and opened up a subway. Then watched it get ripped away from them for no reason.
@@nakeyboyDoes his name start with John and end in Oliver?
There was a really good German investigative report on Subway franchises a couple of years ago.
You can watch some of it here: th-cam.com/video/7VtZS8kVAsg/w-d-xo.html
allegedly@@jooleebilly
The Casual Criminalist episode of the Jared story was amazingly wild and very well presented.
I think the least egregious thing is the length of the hoagies. As someone who has done prep work for the last few years making everything exactly the portion size it says on the menu is extremely time consuming. So depending on the seasonal menu. I could have between 38 to 42 items to prep and portion everyday and each one takes time. 1st year i was very diligent in making sure everything was correctly portioned or weighed out, but i would spend 10 -12 hours doing that. 2nd year i realized that 99.9% of people are not going to notice whether their portion size was 0.1 or 0.2 ounces over or under. Most sane human beings are not going to complain that their spaghetti was over/under by 1 or 2 noodles. That is my take on that aspect of the story.
For ingredients they add a fixed amount, a specific number of equal size slices or a certain number of scoops of something. And the slices are created my a factory to be as close to the same size each, meaning the shop employees would not need to do much preparation apart from picking out the containers.
So think the sandwiches really are very very close to equal :)
As an American I would sum it up as, America allows anything not proven harmful, while Europe allows anything proven not harmful.
It's the same with our law, our law books make yours look like comic's but yet both countries basically have the same laws, we have some very weird ones too like you can shoot a Scotsman with a bow and arrow in the city of York but only in the city of York 😅
@@dicksplatts007 that is a very bizarre law… any idea the history behind why that was made a law in the first place?
@@dicksplatts007While that's hilarious, it's unfortunately (or fortunately if you're Scottish) a myth. A real one though is that it's illegal to walk a cow through the street in daylight hours.
@@ardenalexa94 stems from when the English and Scots were at war probably from around the time that braveheart is based. If you ever go to York there's a plaque on the wall of the main gate of the old city grounds that says "all Scots must report to the sheriff"
@@dicksplatts007In the UK people are required to pay for a license to watch TV at home.
The kind of lawsuits you mention here are not to get money. It’s to give the company a kick in the ass and for them to stop screwing over their customers. (And for the lawyers to make a crap load of cash, obviously)
This reminds me a bit of the horse meat scandle in the uk in 2013
That's the basic purpose of all litigation, isn't it? To make the lawyers richer?
@@CrazyBear65did you not read the comment? You have very selective reading patterns.
@@theceoofcrackcocaineandamp5961 More 6 words me no read. Make head hurt.
Lawyers mount class-action suits because the plaintiffs may not get much but there are a lot of them and so the profit's there. This is because they have children to feed. The Govt., via the law, allows this. It's like the scrapyard Rottweiler... :D
“What the fuck is wrong with bread !”should be the new meme.
I knew the tuna thing was bullshit. I worked at many Subway stores when I was younger and when we mixed to tuna with the light mayo, we were at first opening giant cans and the giant pouches of brand-name StarKist tuna. We would open the cans, drain and press out the liquid inside (water), break up the tuna into the smallest bits possible, and then mix it with an unhealthy amount of "light" mayonnaise. It was definitely tuna. In the end the turkey or roast beef sandwiches were healthier, but it was definitely tuna.
And a bit of porpoise...
DNA Amplification is a novel process of, among other things, restoring critically damaged DNA.
The process of heating a piece of meat to sanitize it will damage it, as will exposing it to a wet salting process such as is used in storing fish in cans and pouches.
In short, almost any preparation of tuna that would allow it to be stored more than a day or two will damage the DNA to the point that DNA amplification would be less than reliable, and would decrease rapidly the more the tuna was diluted or stored.
This is, incidentally, true for basically all forms of animal protein.
The franchise may supply tuna but individual stores may have been substituting cheaper fillers to boost profit.
Yall are missing a key component: They had *no* amplify able DNA.
They gave it a DNA test and it came back negative for DNA.
Ether it was entirely inorganic or the cooking process destroyed enough of the DNA to make determining something as basic as species impossible.
If the former, a chemical analysis would be needed to determine the inorganic material.
Ether way, a DNA test isn't relevant if there is no detectable DNA.
I even found an eyeball in one of the cans once.
@Simon - the reason for these class-action lawsuits is that it can be very difficult to convince the government's truth-in-advertising elements without a lawsuit - and that suit needs to be high-profile enough to get on their radar. It is really more about that than gaining money.
I've heard it said that in Europe you have to prove food stuff is safe to use it but in the US you have to prove something is unsafe to ban it.
Nah, lots of stuff and big organizations require fda approval and inspections to open or remain open. The person who said that quote didn't know what they were talking about.
The reason that is, is because many things we eat are safe when eaten in moderation. Usually, the amount needed to make you sick, is so high no one would be able to eat that much. In Europe, if it can make someone sick even in high quantities, it's banned. Like the guy that died from drinking Mt. Dew which has brominated vegetable oil in it. The thing they didn't say is, he drank something like 5 two liter bottles a day, for many many years before he got sick from it. Anything will make you sick if you consume enough of it. Even water.
As brianm said that is technically false, but in practice there is a good chance that a person might need to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt for it to be banned, and even then only in 18 more years. The problem is that in addition to not being able to change with the times, the structure of the United States' Food and Drug Administration was never anywhere near perfected to begin with. The same can be said for a lot of things in government, they aren't being maintained. The reason being that corrupt politicians (mostly Republicans) prevent anything good from being done in government, in fact so much needs to be done that things like allowing the FDA to function aren't really a priority when so many Republicans are denying even the measures that just allow life on Earth to continue. The good news is the Trump presidency has revealed to many of us who the bad actors are, and some changes were put in place because of the pandemic that allowed the FDA to take a widely distributed fraudulent drug off the market although I'm sure that pseudofedrine or whatever it's called made news in Europe too. Actually, I'm not sure it's been taken off the shelves yet, I think the FDA just ruled that it is bad, and now something else needs to happen.
@castonyoung7514 unfortunately there are still a ton of trumpees out here.
@@user-ox4ys Right I was gonna edit that comment a bit... remind me when I wake up.
My takeaway is that Ireland considers cocoa an essential food, and I love them for that
That is until you see the Into the Shadows episode posted today. Might change your mind on cocoa and chocolate in general. Cheers
@@Hillbilly001 No. Prost!
@@mog-myownbestfriend Yeah. Kinda ruined my chocolate bar. Cheers
I love Guinness extra stout.
the Aztecs would agree
In Capitalist America, everything is made of sugar. Except the sugar. That is high fructose corn syrup. And I'm aware of naturally occurring sugars in fruit and other things. Stop it! When you hear sugar, you think of sugar from a cane plant. Not corn.
How's that communism working out for you? Bless your heart.
At least it didnt poison people just starved them😅@deannelson7027
@@Ophelia0428have you never heard of Stalin's mass executions of people he found undesirable? Bless your heart.
As if capitalism and all its greed didn’t further dry up the resources other fledgling nations could’ve used
@@Ophelia0428Putin had someone poisoned with very radioactive materials in the UK.
One of the things I enjoyed in Europe was that you can buy soft drinks (soda/pop) without added sugar that also doesn't use artificial sugar and it tasted great. European food laws make Australia look dodgy, let alone the US.
Says it all that whenever the Australian government look to tighten up regulations for something the first place they look at for the best way to do it is the EU... then they look at what Australians will actually accept without complaining about a nanny state and water it down.
I am an American, and absolutely everything food here is SUPER shady.
I mean if you look at labels if it’s sold in California they make companies follow more strict guidelines stating “the state of California recognizes said ingredients are known to be carcinogenic” but yet they still use and sell said products.. but a lot of products will have that label.god only knows how bad it really is if they don’t ship and sell the products to California
@@LongNickOfDaLaw Europe doesn't just do labelling laws, they actively ban ingredients and encourage better methods.
@@LongNickOfDaLaw I've not seen that warning. I Have seen "not available in California" or another variation indicating that California don't play them games or probably the court is too backed up?
8:06 Finally, someone is sticking up for bread! Sincere Thanks Simon!
Thanks for editing Sam. You're doing the lords work.
Sam's a hack.
If by lord, you mean TH-cam then Sam is great.
What happened to the meme count?
Thanks Doc
I absolutely love the casual criminalist about jared fogle. Yes, its horrible listening but it explains everything in so much detail that you get the whole story plus you get to see simon get blown away by the weight loss in pretty much the exact way.
I read somewhere that Jared Fogle recieves daily ass-whoopings in prison, as well he deserves.
The Jared Fogel video was absolutely eye-opening to me. I only had a vague idea that Jared was a p3d0. But the lengths he went through boggles the mind!
I'd never heard of him, but thereagain, our local Subway only lasted about 6 months, before it closed, so we get very little advertising and I don't remember the Jared case hitting the news here. I did work in the local city for a while and there was a Subway next to the office and we got a discount, but I probably ate there less than once a month on average, I usually went to one of the local cafés or street food vendors. The Subway stuff was way too sweet and the bread didn't taste like real bread - my wife bakes fresh bread and we make our own flour from whole grains, with only natural ingredients. The other shops used bread from local bakers, baked with whole grains and no artificial additives.
Same here. I knew what he had done but subway isn't that big in the UK. Yeah we have a load of stores but the whole thing with mascots and spokespersons are very American so when it all went down it didn't hit our TVs or newspapers. I think I found out about it through family guy or something and had to Google him to understand the reference but even then there was basically no info on what he did.
Wimpy rocks! But only in South Africa. Nandos is better though. Subway failed here…
Fun fact, Krispy Kreme weren't allowed to open stores here in Australia until they changed the recipe for their donuts because one of the chemical ingredients is banned for food production here, and has been linked to life threatening illness including cancer. However, their recipe remains unchanged in America...
The FDA really has our best interests at heart! I just know it! /S
First off, who goes to Krispy Kreme and thinks any of it is healthy?
@@thyubernoob the fact you see "possibly getting cancer" as just "part of eating junk food" says A LOT. I don't understand the mindset of "that's just how it is," especially when I just explained how it doesn't just "have to be like that" because we forced the corporation to change their recipe to comply with our laws. The US could do the same if they had any interest in public health rather than constantly pandering to and bending over backwards to accommodate the desires of big business.
Ah, well, I guess we have to weight the risk of cancer against eating donuts. Mmmmmm....donuts.
@@danmoar94the fact you see "possibly getting cancer" and then stop thinking is generally not a good mindset. The fact is no matter what you do you will encounter things that give you cancer, the actual statistical likelyhood matters. If a chemical increases risk of cancer but at the levels present in an item the estimated number of customers who will develop cancer as a result of the consumption over the course of a century is below 1 then regulating it out isn't really doing much. You can't just see "it causes cancer" and decide nothing else matters turn your brain off. Literally breathing causes cancer. Every breath you take literally directly introduces free radicals into your bloodstream each one has a chance to come in contact with the wrong cell in the wrong situation and react with the DNA to cause a mutation leading to cancer. You can never completely eliminate risk, you need to manage risk and measure it's actual chances of causing real issues.
Starting a class action lawsuit to compensate me for all the times Simon triggers the Siri on my phone😂
As a fellow bread enthusiast and baker, you dont bleach the bread, you bleach the flour and condition the dough....so your bread was "likely" bleached. Its like the bromide thing too
I thought/heard that in order to Get white bread/products you have to bleach the wheat, or else it's a wheat product. But I really don't know for fact (not a baker). The dilemma, I imagine, is How/with What, it's bleached.
In US law (and I'm pretty sure UK law too) there are two kinds of suit judgements. Compensatory and Punitive. Compensatory damages are sought to recover money lost due to negligence or crime, and can include emotional damage. Punitive damages are extra money taken as a punishment, aimed at making the company wary of doing a shady thing again or to force them to sharpen up enforcement or quality so an accident is less likely to strip them of cash again.
I'm Dutch and we have a subway in Lelystad where I live too, but they're too expensive and the food is not even close to mediocre it outright sucks. They'll be sure to go out of business soon.
i haven't been to a Subway in over 4 years now because i always end up disappointed same when i go to Mcdonalds
I've seen Subway in a few different countries, and it's wild how expensive it is relative to here in the States.
Subway here in nz is far too expensive, a footlong of a half decent filling costs like $13 to 15 and easily goes above $20 for a combo
Luckily enough there’s still enough local businesses selling actually quality food in the lowlands.
Simon, as you predicted Subway didn't see the benefit of playing an ad during this video for some reason. But, "Jersey Mike's" a Subway alternative here in the US was happy to get in on the action and totally pushed an ad during this video.
Jersey Mike's was a huge disappointment although they DO have proper red cherry pepper spread, which is common the East Coast but practically impossible to find on the West Coast. If you ever happen to be in NY, go find an outfit called Jreck's Subs. It's inexpensive and quite good in my opinion.
Simon trying Popeyes for the first time is going to be insane. If he thinks KFC is good, he's going to have his mind blown.
The KFCs near me used to be good but are utterly disgusting now. Popeyes is much much better.
See, I was going to comment the opposite. Popeyes biscuits are the best, but I've never been a fan of their chicken
KFC is still good in other countries. It's much worse in America for some reason.
@@SLorraineE it depends on the Popeyes you go to, and it's location.
especially if he orders spicy right out the gate....🔥🔥🔥
19:34
Bruh-huh-huhh, NO!
Absolute gold man. I had to repeat it about a dozen times.
It was hilarious to me how passionate Simon got about regular bread in this episode 😂
Simon's passion about bread is hilarious
Yeah.... it's bread. I can't blame him.
Gotta say I agree with him.
@@ConcreteLand It's funny what tasting how things can and possibly should taste like can do to you.
Learn to make it yourself. 10 mins effort, hours of letting the yeast go to work, bung it in the oven.
Never understood people freaking out over bread until I started making my own. Now, everything else from the stores tastes like CAKE! I HATE IT!!! -sobs into sunbeam loaf-
@@jimb9063 advice not needed. Just pulled a loaf out of the oven an hour ago. 👍👍 although I am unsure what bung it in the oven means??
I just picked up a Subway sub for lunch -- this totally seems like the perfect video to watch while I eat it.... 😅
OK, that wasn't so bad... the bread is basically a glazing away from being a Crispy Creme doughnut, the subs are shorter than advertised so they can min-max their profits, the tuna is an indeterminate organic substance that may or may not be derived from some form of sea-life, and American corporations are waaaay more focused on how food looks and how much money they can make off it than how it tastes or how nutritious it is.
Good vid! Good lunch too, even if I'm not entirely sure what was in it haha! Seems like a perfect spot for one of my go-to movie quotes -- from Man-at-Arms in the live-action Masters of the Universe movie: "Food is food. Never think when you're hungry." 😄
@@olencone4005 "...more focused on how food looks..."
Yes! It's everything though, not just food. Appearance far more important than substance sadly in almost every walk of life, and not just The US either.
Remember an Italian and British chef TV show collab. They visited a bakery in Italy. It looked like a falling down sh*thole, but people went there because the bread was amazing.
They both agreed that they wouldn't be in business in the UK. No flashing lights, no bright and clean plastic frontage. Nothing in fact to distract you from the sub standard final product.
Subway knew about Jared's escapades for years. There is great info about the investigative journalist who approached Subway with all the bad information about Jared and his Subway handler. She tried to contact Subway with her report, but Subway ignored her.
Simon, I'm glad to see that you still have your wity humor in the new year. I love the witty puns.
Never stops being funny with a bald man trying to sell you hair retention products! 😂😂😂😂
Exactly.
That is probably the whole idea ;) Sell it with humor, and Simon makes the most of it :)
@@davidmartensson273 I highly doubt that. More likely the whole idea is for Simon to make money.
@@7-ten Sure, Simon gets payed and the company gets a commercial that people does remember, it was the "selling hair products with a bald man" I mean to be the whole idea because its so contradictory.
In fairness, they have seen hats that say "bad hair day" but I haven't seen any that say "no hair day".
In general Europe bans food that’s even suspected bad, in USA it has to be proven bad before even considering banning it or adding warning labels
The USA will let things they know are harmful go on for decades after the rest of the world bans them because of money in politics. The rest of the world banned lead-based paint in the 1920s or 30s America didn’t do it until the 70s.
In general Europe you have to prove it's edible enough before you are allowed to sell it
@@EclipseOverSalem"edible enough" is what America uses, other countries have standards
And not just bad, but like demonstrable illness bad.
The us is more worried about germs than chemicals. It’s why the us does stuff like clean our eggs before selling them despite this destroying a protective layer on them
RE: sanitary product tax
Depends on the particular sanitary product, but some were available free with the NHS if they were considered reusable(so diva cups for example), while almost everything else was 5%(because they're under the same category as soap, shampoo, and toothpaste).
Honestly I'm still annoyed at that. In 1995 there was a petition to remove VAT from all products like that, it's not like keeping teeth healthy or washing is a luxury; but it was declined. Then when the movement looked like it was finally gaining traction and looked like it might get reconsidered in 2000 the whole thing got pushed aside to address the problem that a portion of the VAT was paid on products only women buy. We could have had a huge win for everybody, but instead got a small win for just women. I really wish the original proposal had passed, it's dumb any product in the category isn't considered essential; and I can't help but feel the focus on pads/tampons was deliberate in an effort to keep the tax on everything else. After 2001 everyone seems to have forgotten about getting rid of tax on everything else which probably made quite a bit of tax over the last 22 and a bit years.
In much of the world, things aren't allowed until they're shown to be safe. In the US, things aren't banned until proven UNsafe. And then they get "phased out" over a period until the end of time if an outright ban would negatively impact business interests
Subway franchise owners have said it's a very hard franchise to make money with, this is the only franchise I've ever seen where every franchise owner decides if they are going to accept coupons printed by the company who's name is on their door. It's one of the best known yet poorly run franchise's in the world.
John Oliver did an episode on Subway franchising. It's seriously fkd.
Circle K does the same thing. I went in one I don't usually go to & was shocked that using my card didn't get the discount on cigarettes as every other Circle K
My friend told me a story (so it may well be a wives tale) about someone complaining about their "footlong" sub only being 11in, so the employee took the sandwich, squished the shit out of it so it was then 13in long, cut off the extra inch, and gave it back with a smug "now it's 12in".
that's how to answer a "Karen" like it said in the video they get the dough in portions of weight... so they get the same volume, did they measure the thickness...? i make bread everyday at work and it doesn't always come out the same way
@@mojo8253 As someone who eats bread, I thank you for your work! As I said, I didn't experience the situation I mentioned first-hand, but I know from various different personal experiences that bakers are not likely to be shorting people in any way. I mean, ffs, a "baker's dozen" is 13!
Bread nerds pwahahaha go eat some homemade bread with your breadfriend you crummy dorks ahahahahah bread heads.
😂Brilliant, I hope it is true
Good urban legend
I worked at a Subway in my home town for 8 hours... I took the uniform back that night after working 7am to 3pm, running the entire store before noon because the manager left early with a hangover and the other worker stood on the phone her entire shift.
Also after seeing how everything was made and shipped in, with bags of produce without dates or labels, I couldnt eat there again...
Was very similar to working for other large multi location non food brands, albeit technically franchisee's in subway, but the dynamic was not noticeably different to how store managers don't have much autonomy in other brands anyway. Because it's food, it just seems so much worse.
Utter hypocrisy throughout the system. It's known by everyone that the standards set are both unrealistic and never followed, but everyone has to pretend that they are.
Same attitude seems to be followed by the food standards folk too, which is disturbing.
No different to how things work in other areas sadly. Take fork lifts. Everyone knows, including the instructors, they are often open about it, that how you're supposed to use them is completely different to how they will be used. All bollocks unfortunately.
I think it's basically shifting the blame onto the lowest employee if/when something goes wrong.
"We've shown you the correct way, but you were doing it in a different way, it's your fault."
Conveniently forgetting it's impossible to do it the right way. You either just get on with it, or refuse and leave and someone else will take your place doing it wrong.
I worked at a Subway for several months.
The GM gave me the keys to the store after like a month.
One day out of the blue, I was texted that I'm fired. Lol
All that I can think, is that her daughter got mad that I wouldn't sleep with her (I had a serious girlfriend, that I later married, and the daughter also had a boyfriend)
Her name was Chastity 😅.
I guess that she made something up about me and told her mom.
I still eat subway tho.
I work in the industrial baking sector, adjacent to the factories that make the frozen bread for Subway.
Yes, there is a lot of sugar in it. Up to 15%.
Sugar is actually the cheapest anti-roping (prevents mold) agent you can use. Regular bread - flour, water, salt and yeast - only has a shelf life of a day or two. If you add sugar into it, the shelf life goes up to about a week or more. That is also the same reason why McDonalds buns just... dry out... instead of getting moldy. There's heaps of sugar AND anti-roping agents, and of course, plenty of canola oil.
They all sound sooo appetizing I want to bite my tablet.....🤪
I was appalwd when I went to the UK. Came back and literally wven our bread is TWICE as much sugar.
And somehow all of their bars have fresh peas. It's insane how good and how cheap their food is. Americans would be so PISSED if they ever bothered to see how good the rest of the world has it.
@Loralanthalas I watch the TH-cam channel called Sorted. They constantly do meal challenges. It can be £5 meal or £20 3 meals 2 portions of each. Lots of budget meals honestly.
I always think how in the heck would I cook 3 meals for $20 let alone $30. Even if I did vegetarian, which I don't do often. I love me some lentils, white beans and quinoa, but if memory serves a package of quinoa is about $5 minimum. Lentils are probably around $3. Beans are probably $2.
I have my grandma's Better Homes and Gardens budget cookbook. It's got interesting recipes. I believe they use lamb as a replacement for chicken. If it's not lamb it's a different surprising meat choice.
We Americans really have it bad.
Thanks so much for creating and sharing this informative and timely video. Great job. Keep it up.
you metioned that subway use the same set ammount of fillings no matter how long the sandwiches are.
on the rare occasion i go i usually have hearty ittalian and while most branches add 5 slices of both salami and pepperoni a few branches only add 3 of each.
i allways find their reaction entertaining when i wait untill its been grilled before telling them why i dont want it, refusing to pay, and going somewhere else instead.
its like ordering a big mac and the local branch chosing to only include a single burger / layer while still charging full price
In America we have this thing called "class action lawsuits". If a lot of people have been injured by the same -- oh, let's call it alleged fraud in this case -- one such person can file a suit and apply for "class" status. This means that everyone in the country injured by the same act is included in the class unless they specifically opt out. These settlements are often for many millions, but usually the amounts paid out to each plaintiff are minuscule. The real winners are the law firms, which take a large cut of the settlement as a fee.
So you get a lot of garbage class action lawsuits because some law firms actively seek out plaintiffs so as to file them. They can be immensely profitable.
I worked for saputo (dairy giant in U.S and Canada) for a month and the short time I was retained was due to the fact that my time sheet kept getting "lost" .eventually I couldn't afford to even drive to work and was "fired". But as karma would have it 3 months later I received a letter in the mail stating that a class action lawsuit was filed against the dairy company for failure to pay several hundred employees their wages. I sure as shit entered the case to get what I was entitled to. I won a whole 8 dollars but those dollars felt like JUSTICE!. Kick rocks saputo.
Late 90s in college in kirksville, mo, subway offered free six inch cold cut trios with the purchase of a large mountain dew for an entire summer. $1.24 a day food budget for my 19 yr old bum ass lol
Former subway employee, the bread is frozen in what is essentially just logs, we thaw them and let the yeast expand, proof them and then throw them in the first machine (typically the one on the bottom, looks like an oven it's not) which hydrates the bread and facilitates the actual rising and such, then they are baked. The size of the bread is not indicative of how much dough or such was used, as they are all identical, really the only thing missed out on is lettuce, as that is the ONLY topping where we do not deliver a preset ammount, merely a range we try to shoot for.
That's kinda of cool. Probably why sugars are higher. Yeast need it.
The process you describe means the bread is going to baked fresh. It's kinda brilliant actually
In Australia, sales tax has to be listed in the price of the item, they're not allowed to list the untaxed price.
Now That is the way it should be!
Here in the US, class action lawsuits are basically get-rich-quick schemes for lawyers. The plaintiffs might make a buck or two (literally), but the lawyers make millions.
That is true, but it's the only way to hold a company accountable if they scam a little bit of money out of a lot of people.
@@amber_amber62 The corollary is that it also makes things easier for companies to pay off a single lump sum and "stop worrying about it" compared to a continuous parade of individual cases. It's cheaper for them this way most of the time as well.
@@amber_amber62 Where does the idea "It's the only way" come from?
Like Simon Says (pause for effect, LOL) we Americans need to be able to report these issues and they need to be checked into. At that point if they are found to be in violation of anything they need to be required by law to correct it. If they 'knowingly' did wrong or caused harm they need to be fined and that money needs to support the part of the government that looks into these issues as well as pay for damages. We also need some 'Full Disclosure Truth in Advertising Laws' that make it illegal to misrepresent or lie about the hazards and or benefits of a product or service. Unfortunately, when companies can make into the Billions of dollars per year doing us wrong and can keep it legal with a Million dollar lobbying budget, very little if anything will change in America. If you believe I'm wrong about this, just look into what happened with supplements... After a bit of lobbying our representatives decided to just let supplement companies self regulate.
I find it sickening that lawyers in the USA hunt for issues where they can file a Class Action suit that's basically a get rich quick scheme. For instance, they are currently running one against Verizon because they charged extra fees on their phone bills over a number of years. Like, if their customers didn't like the fees and didn't want to pay them they could have dropped their service and went with a different company. However, they paid and now there is a $100,000,000.00 (That's One Hundred Million) lawsuit against them. According to the documentation the lawyers will receive $33,000,000.00 (That's Thirty Three Million) plus expenses out of that, or roughly 33% plus expenses. WTF? Ever wonder why your wireless bills are so expensive and you don't get free upgrades on your phones any more?
For some reason, I thought this was going to be about subways. You know, little trains under the ground. 😂 Choo chew!
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I worked at subway for 2 years and the tuna is literally just starkist tuna but comes in a bigger tear open aluminum pouch instead of a can. Tuna stopped being part of the $5 foot long deals because it cost more than that to make a sandwich so after they removed it.
Sooo, in reality, it should be Starkist being sued? Subway defense: "Dude it's not our fault, we only opened the cans, they're to blame on what comes out!" hehehe
Cooking by definition is chemistry. Doesn't mean we should add meth.
From the UK but having lived in southern Illinois for over 3 years I was reduced to eating rye bread as every single loaf of everything else was sodden with sugar! Even the tasty looking wholemeal from the 'Wholefood' shop!
Thank God for the good ol' british bloomer :)
POPEYES is absolutely amazing!
Also.......
March 24th 2029 is the 1st day jared can have a subway sub again.
Plenty of time to sharpen my knives!
when it comes to simons confusion on why people file class action lawsuits, i would imagine most people do it just to make a company pay a lot of money
Only reason I ever signed up. Was surprised as hell when Wells Fargo sent me $17. They've spent a few years now trying to get me to cash it. So I know they're obligated to pay. They just sent me a replacement $17 check a few months back. I keep it on one of the shelves in my mantel.
It's FAR easier to actually get somewhere with a class action instead of an individual
Once Simon has Popeye's, he'll never go back to KFC 🍗
The best Popeye's is like 50mi for me (Salt Lake City) at Hill AFB (just outside Riverdale, Roy, and Layton UT). The KFCs that are close are better than the close Popeye's somehow.
Agreed
TH-cam search Kat Williams Popeye's Lady or Kat Williams taco bell.... No need to thank me.
Boston Market stole me away from KFC... tho it didn't hurt that it was MUCH easier to get in and out of Boston Market's parking lot than the convoluted maze of my local KFC :P
Jollybees is where its at
Simon is so human, practical, and just awesome. Right up there with US favorite late nite show hosts. ⚡
Huge queues outside of a newly opened franchise is quite normal. It's something different, so people want to try it. It's like when Shake Shack and Five Guys opened up in Hong Kong, I would have to wait over an hour to get in. Now, there's no queue.
Can confirm Wimpy does still exist my side of London! The food has actually improved (somewhat), though got a fair bit more expensive than its competitors.
Popeye's chicken sandwich is the best thing.Ever. Just go get one. And then try to wait an entire week before you go get another.
"What's wrong with bread": I am with you on that Simon. But the reason is: large parts of the western world have no idea how to make actual, tasty bread. Like even the crap my 50EUR bread machine churns out with minimal effort (if I use the right flour) is mostly better than what I had in many expensive places.
Remember having a Subway on my postal round. I always hated going near, let alone in it if it had mail. The smell always made me gag. Never had that with a chippie or any other fast food place.
American McDonald's fries: 32 different chemicals.
U.K. McDonald's fries: 0 chemicals.
I believe matpat on food theory covers a couple of these cases. I know he covered the tuna suit. From what I remember it was kinda a nut job suit. In short most labs wouldn’t even accept the subway tuna to do the experiment. I believe it was to keep their prestige because it’s kinda a general rule that when meats are cooked the DNA in the meat degrades significantly. The lady also changed her argument a couple times too I think.
Subway was covering their ass, of course the tuna wasn't all tuna. None of their products are what they claim.
“Tuna suit” totally sounds like something I’d wear to school on the Friday before Break.
It's basically, cooking is the act of breaking down food ahead of time before it enters our bodies so it is easier to digest. Of course cooking it achieves the goal of breaking it down, to the point of it not being able to be DNA tested. That is what cooking IS.
With those kinds of cases, you get into the realm of “punitive damages.” The idea is that you can find a person or company so heavily that it will punish their misdeeds and discourage further poor behavior by them or others. So it isn’t really about Johnny Lawsuit getting a cool $500K so much as it is about Subway getting slapped and told to stop that.
7:55 Are you saying that you DONT want a sweet bun wrapped around your meat? 😳
In America there is a push for greater disclosure of food ingredients. I've visited Scotland and specifically London and noticed a large difference in food quality. Everything tastes better, and I got more energy from what I ate. Here, there are Aldi's and Lidls. The food offerings that are imported from Germany still follow the German purity laws as well as locally sourced veggies and fruits. While this isn't a huge change, it is a beginning in our small town.
As for the sugar content the market has been changing the past few years. The obesity is a result of not only sugar consumption but also serving size, even in upscale restaurants. This is a result of personal preference concerning what a person eats. And, granted, the food industry pushes sugar because it is a addictive ingredient. Especially true for 'fast food' vendors.
Sugar is also addictive and makes the brain happy, so you'll more likely believe the food there was good cause your brain says so. Once 1 chain restaurant started doing that to their products, the others followed suit.
All these additives of fats, sugars, salts and then the manufactured whatever is far cheaper than having quality ingredients along with having a much longer shelf life so that there's less possible waste as well, adding more to the bottom line.
Over here is Australia it is a legal requirement for all prices to include taxes, so what you see on the shelf is what you pay, be it at a major chain store or a family run corner shop in the middle of nowhere that somehow supports Apple Pay.
02:00 the irony of a bald guy promoting a hair loss prevention product! 😂They didn’t think that through when they sponsored you guys did they? 😂
I had Subway the other day for the first time in about 4 years. It was so flavorless if it hadn’t been for being able to taste the chips, I would have taken a C-19 test.
I mostly stay away from "processed" foods here in US. My son brought home Dominoes, which I hadn't had in decades (although I remember liking it). I swear I could smell the chemicals in it. I can't eat it anymore.
What's that Tim Minchin rant..? "Everything is chemicals!"
I'm sure you can smell the acetyl pyrroline in that pizza as soon as the box comes in the door - very distinctive chemical odor, that one (this is the chemical created in the process of baking gluten-containing bread).
Earliest reports to law enforcement about Jared happened in 2007. Police raided his home July 7, 2015. He formally pled guilty on November 19, 2015.
Here in Germany, we never had those Jared adds for Subway, so the first time I ever heard the name was when I saw the Casual Criminalist video.
That's why the quarter pounder (112 gram) at whichever fast food place stated that was pre cooked weight
And that's why Wendy's burgers no longer have weights.
As someone who lived in Germany for a few years I can confirm, European food is generally way healthier than American food. Everything tastes different, even the KFC biscuits.
From the US; spent time around Germany & Benelux.
This is true.
I spent a summer in Nice back in 99. It was the best and most carried food I've ever experienced. I miss it. American food is largely trash. And the worst part, the fresh vegetables that aren't 100% visually appealing get thrown away. Because it won't sell as well.
It really didn’t used be that way. I went to Europe in 1991, I came back to the USA and it really felt like everything had changed….
In the uk we get no biscuits
@@wpjohn91 I'm so sorry for your and the rest of Britain's loss.
My highschool friend did bio-chem in university, and went on to become the chief process chemist for a couple of different large breweries now owned by InBev. So, yeah, food chemistry is a thing.
yup...majority of all snack foods are chem'd up. Doritos for example have 23 different ' flavors ' in the nacho cheese brand alone. why ? to keep your taste buds from getting bored, thus keeping you eating them. since you never grow tired of the taste it's a higher probability you'll finish the bag, and then have to go buy another bag...
Subway was already on the way out even before the whole "we're distabcing ourselves from our former spokesperson" thing, the rapid rise in the cost of a sandwich and simultaneous drop in food quality had already made consumers seek alternatives prior to that point (at least in Australia). It was my go to lunch on pay day for a few years in the mid 2000's, been over a decade since I bought Subway and many franchisees over here have since closed their stores.
Compare Subway to a local Delicatessen and it's no competition. You know the bread is fresh and has no sugar in it. The items are also fresh and much cheaper.
The first time I had a meatball sub, it was awful. Ground turkey instead of ground beef. Rarely go to any Subways if I can avoid it.
Geeze, I wish I could try UK KFC. The Canadian one is greasy as hell. It really went downhill from when I was a child.
From an American who started out his higher education as a biochemicst, THE FDA (Food and Drug Administration) is owned, lock, stock, and barrel, by the Food and Pharma industry. It is a revolving door of employment between the agency and the industry.
One thing terrible thing they did, arguably, the worst, was give me food poisoning
same.
Food-borne illness ;)
You too, huh?
They just gave it to you? I had to buy it.
It's false advertisement and in The United States " False Advertisement " is illegal .
Seem to remember something about McDonalds not getting a licence when it first tried to venture into France for the same reason as Ireland as the food standards agency variant determine the buns to be too sweet and categorised as confectionery, they had to adjust the ingredients. But could just as easily be an urban legend...
I can't picture Simon with hair, even as a child I imagine he was bald and bearded...
I get flashbacks of young TopTenz Simon bald and without a beard sometimes while flipping through my brains roledex of traumatic images I've seen online.
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@@BURDYMAN777 I get the odd Top Tenz video in my "watch it again" section here in TH-cam, and beardless Simon is haunting 😂
on the channel, set the videos to earliest first!
Hey Danny...and all the other writers in Simon's basement, how about a script about the weirdest or cringiest or whatever internet memes or trolls or something, with the main purpose being actually to confuse the ever loving shit out of Simon every 5 seconds?
I think it could have a lot of potential.
Alternatively it could be a new episode of Simon has to guess whether stories of this are real or fake on Decoding the Unknown.
Oh yes! Yes, please.
One of the jobs I worked for in college only had a Starbucks and Subway next to it so if I didn't bring my own food, I was screwed lol. Ever since then I've hated both chains. They really took off with $5 footlongs which I don't know how long that lasted.
I think they ended the $5 footlongs somewhere around 2018 or 2019. They're a long ways from $5 nowadays haha! :P
15 dollars for a footlong steak and cheese in canada.
We have wimpy in South Africa, the "restaurant" attached to a brand of petrol station here 😂
American here - yes, our food has so many more preservatives and sugars added to it because of our enormous infrastructure and It definitely has always filled me up very fast. My friends always talk about how I eat like a bird, but truly 1/4 to 1/3 of a "meal" purchased from a restaurant fills me up. Anytime we go out to eat, my leftovers always feed me for at least two more meals at home. I think I experience this because the majority of the food that I ate up until I was out of high school was home grown food from our farm. My family grew a LOT of foods and we traded with other farmers in our county for meats and dairy products - and we only ate out maybe once every three months or so.
I always find it funny when Simon is all in on KFC when its probably my last choice of fast food fried chicken. Like...I would rather dig out something from my freezer than is all covered in freezer burn.
Here in the UK, up until pretty recently, KFC was about the only place that you could actually get fried chicken, though there were smaller independent places (and some other smaller chain brand that sold skanky palm oil-soaked chicken), but they were usually crap in comparison, now places like Jollibees & Popeyes have made their way over the pond to british shores (and apparently Czech too), it's giving the colonel a run for his money... :P
@twocvbloke good! Everyone deserves good fried chicken! Personal rec: find a Korean place that serves fried chicken and it will be the best you've had. Lived there for three years and literally never had a bad piece of fried chicken.
back in the 70's and 80's, KFC was top tier fast food. Then something changed, maybe in the recipe as a cost-cutting measure, or maybe it was the elimination of trans fats, I don't know for sure. All I know is it was always good, then suddenly it never was.
@@michellemo7552 I was stationed there. Best fried chicken I ever had.
KFC sucks in the USA but it tastes good in other countries. No idea why we got hosed in our own country.
Yeah not a huge soobway fan. I find their sandwiches all taste the same (likely due to the cake-bread they use). It's also gotten crazy expensive in the last few years.
20:00 background checks are useless if the person had never been caught.
A “Closed” sign is the sign of a healthy-eating Subway.
Most shocking reveal: NY Post published a fact.
Fact Boi needs to try one of those bacon cheeseburgers served on glazed donuts for buns.
It wasn't a foot long that's why Jared liked kids. Their small hands make it seem bigger.
LOL
The jokes in this episode were pretty good. The best one was Simon being sponsered by Keeps, but only by a hair.
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That shot of snoop dog smacking a reefer was hilarious.
27:00 SIMON. Louisiana expat living in Texas here... Popeye's is sooooo good. I don't like fast food chicken sandwiches. I would never order one for myself on purpose... until Popeye's threw their hat in the ring. I'll sure enough get in the car just to go get a spicy chicken sandwich from Popeye's. Even the pickles on it are exceptional!
The other must-order is a 2-piece dark, spicy, with red beans and rice.
You're SO LUCKY to live in Prague it's SOOOOO gorgeous!!!
"nobody wants their meat wrapped in something sweet" No one tell Simon about doughnuts being used as burger buns, breakfast corn dogs wrapped in presweetened pancake batter, or McGriddles. I used to work in a McDonald's, so I am disgusted/turned away from most of their food, but the McGriddle still entices me from time to time. The savory of the sausage and cheese matches perfectly with the sweetness from the syrup bits in the pancake.
Simon is totally right, I didn't 6 months in Asia and lost 40# eating normally, in fact, having sweets more often, but when I returned to the States, careful of what I ate, I gained it back.
Popeyes is amazing. We got it here many years ago. Go and try it Simon.
If you like KFC, you’ll definitely enjoy Popeye’s! Definitely worth a try.
Aint got no poeyes round here i on't reckon. We got us a jacks and a zackabees but not no popeyes for damn near 35 miles.
Bojangles beats them both
17:00. Thanks. I can't eat Subway anymore, especially when wearing my work clothes with my name on them.