this is why Prize cards now are more often normal monsters which are worse than existing monsters. can't create a crush card situation if theres an already better card.
Anotherverse Dragon is the latest prize card and it is for sure a badass looking dragon. It reminds me of Serpent Night Dragon in a way. I think Konami should print the old normal monsters from the early OCG sets that never carried over to the TCG as prize cards such Black Dragon Jungle King, Sea King Dragon or Job Change Mirror. Everybody would be Ok with that for sure.
Damn, using such cards in video games back then felt so magical to me. Most of them were released FAR too late here in Korea. Even the original japanese versions had too much price since they usually come from random gift cards in books, game soft and its guidebook, etc..
During the Crush Card Virus section he mentions how expensive the game was getting. Keep in mind that Dark Armed Dragon was a $4 Rare in OCG but a severely short printed Secret Rare that went for around $300 in TCG.
DAD Turbo with 3x DAD and all the necessary Destiny Hero support which were only from a Duelist Pack and DMoC, Dimension Fusion etc the deck already ran up to $1.5k-2k
I always have had the feeling that Konami uses the trends in OCG tournaments (to see what cards are used heavily) to inform what rarity they choose to make those cards in the TCG. Idk, maybe this is old news anyway, but that always seemed like one of the business strategies they use.
Cyber-Stein was in one of the first OCG starter decks, alongside BEUD and megamorph. It shows just how many OTKs there were in the pre-TCG OCG that anyone thought that was OK.
What I always found weird is that Dark End Dragon and Light End Dragon are main deck effect monsters from the GX manga. But for whatever reason, they became synchros when they got turned into real cards.
I remember playing Yugioh WC 2009 Stardust Accelerator and having such a rough time against the duelist who uses Dark End Dragon. As a kid to me it was just a good card, but crazy to think that it was a prize card i had no chance of obtaining.
Top 10 Cards Whose Intended Functionality Is Antithetical To Modern Yu-Gi-Oh!. Top 10 "Game-Warping" Cards That Don't Go Far Enough Anymore. Top 10 "Break Slammers", cards that prevent or punish over-extension itself. Chain Energy, Summon Breaker/Limit, similar such. Top 10 cards that are Worth Waiting for. (I. E., Slow Cards Only, with Longer Worthwhile Waits at least earning some points toward higher rankings) Top 10 Cards that require your Opponent to do something to matter. Top 10 Cards That Earn Their Oppressive Restrictions. Top 10 "Rubber Band" Cards, cards that get better the more you're losing/worse the more you're winning. Top 10 "Gift Exchange" Targets.
Pokemon TCG has a similar prize card problem with Tropical Beach. It was a prize for the 2011 Championships and has the fantastic effect of letting you draw until you have 6 cards in hand instead of attacking each turn. They haven’t printed a good championship card since, but also haven’t reprinted Tropical Beach or an equivalent card. Tropical Beach barely squeaks into Expanded to this day, so it is a sought after card. To the point there were eBay listings for the *TCG Online* copy going for over $50.
I remember that shit back then. That’s why I was reluctant to play any evolution pokémon in the BW and XY format because most competitive elitists would tell me I needed to play 2-4 Tropical beach (along with the 4 N and 4 Sycamore) if I wanted to play Stage 1 and Stage 2 cards. Also I think TB 2011 lets you draw until you had 7, not 6.
I was kinda active in spanish nationals for a while and I've seen some of these prize cards personally. An old friend of mine spent A LOT to buy Des Volstgalph. Another went to a (I think) YCS and came back with Crush Card Virus and a Stardust Divinity replica. And in one national there was a major fuss because someone stole the Gold Sarcophagus from a player.
You can't get much more Yugioh than going to a major card game tournament, and then having one of your rarest most precious cards stolen by either your opponent or a henchman.
What has always bugged me about Dark End Dragon is the fact it is a Synchro monster, since it appearted in the GX manga as an effect monster and is meant to be the dark half of Light and Darkness Dragon.
Fun fact about Crush Card, I can't remember what pre-release it was, but it was the one where the booklet you got had exchange of the spirit, a few of them and I mean a very very few of them actually had Crush Card virus. I don't remember if they did this with Gold Sarc as well but I remember hearing they did. Sorry this old man's memory isn't want it used to be.
I remember this and attended that sneak peek. It was for Power of the duelist and the intended promo was Hidden Soldiers. Interesting thing is that this was by complete mistake and before it would have legally been released via SJC.
"Supposed short printing" GLD1 Crush Cards were regularly exchanged for 300USD. I actually sold 2 for $500 in cash a week before the banlist that killed TeleDAD was announced when I quit the game back then. Very different times.
I was in highschool when Dark Armed Dragon was released, the arrival of the Synchros and the dominance of the Gladiator Beasts and Lightsworns. What an era! Though I was confused because it took too long to Konami to release Crush Card Virus considering it was a card that was in the anime and it also was available for play in the OCG since 1999 iirc.
Yes I was also in high school at that time and didn't critically think about how they do their reprints or about the prestige prize cards carried as the only copies and wondered why it took ages for crush card to get a print for everyone but also thought about gold sarc a lot because I was used to it in the games.
@@LightshaverConstellation exactly because I had mostly counterfeit cards of Crush Card Virus or even Black Magician Of Chaos for years and most of them didn't get official prints until 2008/2009 so it was very weird.
One of my favorite old school combos is Gold Sarcophagus searching Necroface while Soul Absorbtion is active for a 5k LP gain from Necroface's banish effect.
and then after that, YCS prize cards had included Number 106 Giant Hand and Minerva, the Exalted Lightsworn. Each was worth thousands. Giant Hand was a strong component of the Rank 4 Toolbox and a single copy would be passed between friend groups to be borrowed for tournament use right up until Duelist Alliance. Minerva was the critical piece of a Lightsworn deck that would have been a tier 1 deck alongside ABC and Majespector in the period before Invasion: Vengence
I love crush card and all the virus cards, modern iterations of virus decks are so fun to watch (mainly rhymestyle's), I should make one on master duel!
Some players say dark end dragon shouldn’t be allowed in edison since almost nobody had access to it since it was a prize card. It almost doesnt matter anyways since dark end isnt a generic synchro most decks cant make it anyways except dark monsters like caius/chaos sorc/malicious+ lvl 2 tuner like plague spreader. Or gorz+lvl 1 tuner like white stone of legends. Or a blackwing deck
Here's an idea for an episode of Failed Catds and Mechanics: the Duel Terminal 1 archetypes by which I mean the archetypes mentioned in the storyline before Sophia makes her appearance. Most were unviable and a few still are despite some added support. The biggest issue many had at least in the beginning was a complete lack of dedicated S/T support. Hell, it may make for a few episodes
I don't envy Konami for needing to balance a game where 90% of the time both players will want to draw 100 cards, activate 100 effects and OTK without counterplay if there is even the slightest opportunity. How do you retrain such a playerbase to appreciate grindy back and forth games?
Just don't balance the game poorly in the first place. But really, there's probably no easy way to do that without alienating at least half the remaining fans. I'd release retrains of stuff that maybe could come off the banlist, stop with the constant powercreep, hit the broken stuff (like Bystial/Runick/Superheavy/etc), and put a stop to the scapegoating of archetypes.
I don't think I ever knew what Crush Card Virus did until now lol the anime was totally different, and the only time I ever played it was in Duelist of the Roses where it was a field spell. Honestly it'd be cool if it was just a field spell, that destroys all 1500+ face-up monsters on the field. Give it a three turn limit, I suppose, but the one-sided-ness of the card as it is seems too powerful for a single discard/tribute.
I play cyber stein in my deck as if I get mad at someone else, then I will use his effects to bring out big monsters, but i think it is too slow to get played in duels, but I made a custom cards for cyber stein into a archetype and I am still upset about you not reviewing my cyber stein's dr.stein custom card and it fits in it
Funny thing, my stepdads friend was the one to win the dsrk end dragon. Unfortunately tho, he had to sell because he borrowed someones deck and they told him if he won anything, they would have to split the prize
3:52 If I were to update this card to a more modern standard: _Des Volstgalph #2_ (EARTH) Level 6 Dragon/Effect _You can special summon this card (From your hand or GY) by tributing 1 Monster, Spell and Trap card each from your hand or field. If this card destroys an opponents card by battle or card effect: Inflict 500 damage. Each time a card or effect resolves, this card gains 200 ATK/DEF until the end of the turn. (Quick effect) Once per turn, at the beginning of the turn, you can tribute 1 card from your hand or field: Activate 1 of the following effects depending on the type of the tributed card:_ Monster: This card is unaffected by monster effects, and deals piercing battle damage, for the rest of the turn. Once this turn: if you destroy an opponents monster by battle or card effect, you can destroy 1 monster on the field or from your hand. Spell: This card is unaffected by Spell cards/effects for the rest of the turn. Once this turn: if you destroy an opponents Spell card by card effect, you can destroy 1 Spell card on the field or from your hand. Trap: This card is unaffected by Trap cards/effects for the rest of the turn. Once this turn: if you destroy an opponents Trap card by card effect, you can destroy 1 Trap card on the field or from your hand. ATK/2200 DEF/1700
I still say having your opponent choose the 3 monsters Crush Card destroyed was a STUPID idea. They should've just stopped with the no damage thing, maybe have it last for the next 3 turns like the card destruction if they were really worried.
Gotta say, I liked it more when rare Yugioh cards were more expensive. It meant that the price for card packs were justified and not clearly overpriced like today
this is why Prize cards now are more often normal monsters which are worse than existing monsters. can't create a crush card situation if theres an already better card.
it does seem cool to have an OP card you had to win but definitely not healthy for a competitive game
Anotherverse Dragon is the latest prize card and it is for sure a badass looking dragon. It reminds me of Serpent Night Dragon in a way.
I think Konami should print the old normal monsters from the early OCG sets that never carried over to the TCG as prize cards such Black Dragon Jungle King, Sea King Dragon or Job Change Mirror. Everybody would be Ok with that for sure.
@@Billy_Wyatt GIVE! US! BAT!
We need a normal 1 star monster called Snake.
@@williamfalls Why?
Damn, using such cards in video games back then felt so magical to me. Most of them were released FAR too late here in Korea. Even the original japanese versions had too much price since they usually come from random gift cards in books, game soft and its guidebook, etc..
During the Crush Card Virus section he mentions how expensive the game was getting.
Keep in mind that Dark Armed Dragon was a $4 Rare in OCG but a severely short printed Secret Rare that went for around $300 in TCG.
That was not a fun format ,..
DAD Turbo with 3x DAD and all the necessary Destiny Hero support which were only from a Duelist Pack and DMoC, Dimension Fusion etc the deck already ran up to $1.5k-2k
I always have had the feeling that Konami uses the trends in OCG tournaments (to see what cards are used heavily) to inform what rarity they choose to make those cards in the TCG. Idk, maybe this is old news anyway, but that always seemed like one of the business strategies they use.
@@mattstanford2789 yup, same goes for most of our staples.
Ahh, yes. Another instance of corporate greed ruining something we love
Cyber-Stein was in one of the first OCG starter decks, alongside BEUD and megamorph. It shows just how many OTKs there were in the pre-TCG OCG that anyone thought that was OK.
What I always found weird is that Dark End Dragon and Light End Dragon are main deck effect monsters from the GX manga. But for whatever reason, they became synchros when they got turned into real cards.
The writer of the GX manga was even pissed by this change
I remember playing Yugioh WC 2009 Stardust Accelerator and having such a rough time against the duelist who uses Dark End Dragon. As a kid to me it was just a good card, but crazy to think that it was a prize card i had no chance of obtaining.
Top 10 Cards Whose Intended Functionality Is Antithetical To Modern Yu-Gi-Oh!.
Top 10 "Game-Warping" Cards That Don't Go Far Enough Anymore.
Top 10 "Break Slammers", cards that prevent or punish over-extension itself. Chain Energy, Summon Breaker/Limit, similar such.
Top 10 cards that are Worth Waiting for. (I. E., Slow Cards Only, with Longer Worthwhile Waits at least earning some points toward higher rankings)
Top 10 Cards that require your Opponent to do something to matter.
Top 10 Cards That Earn Their Oppressive Restrictions.
Top 10 "Rubber Band" Cards, cards that get better the more you're losing/worse the more you're winning.
Top 10 "Gift Exchange" Targets.
Can you give an example of an Antithetical card please?
@@MrDonJuanquis fiber jar I guess
Antithetical or degenerate.
Dumb idea
Pokemon TCG has a similar prize card problem with Tropical Beach. It was a prize for the 2011 Championships and has the fantastic effect of letting you draw until you have 6 cards in hand instead of attacking each turn. They haven’t printed a good championship card since, but also haven’t reprinted Tropical Beach or an equivalent card.
Tropical Beach barely squeaks into Expanded to this day, so it is a sought after card. To the point there were eBay listings for the *TCG Online* copy going for over $50.
I remember that shit back then. That’s why I was reluctant to play any evolution pokémon in the BW and XY format because most competitive elitists would tell me I needed to play 2-4 Tropical beach (along with the 4 N and 4 Sycamore) if I wanted to play Stage 1 and Stage 2 cards.
Also I think TB 2011 lets you draw until you had 7, not 6.
In middle school, our library would get shonen jump issues and I remember getting dark end dragon from it.
I was kinda active in spanish nationals for a while and I've seen some of these prize cards personally. An old friend of mine spent A LOT to buy Des Volstgalph. Another went to a (I think) YCS and came back with Crush Card Virus and a Stardust Divinity replica. And in one national there was a major fuss because someone stole the Gold Sarcophagus from a player.
You can't get much more Yugioh than going to a major card game tournament, and then having one of your rarest most precious cards stolen by either your opponent or a henchman.
@@bennitori4 can't wait for someone to throw the cards into the sea
What has always bugged me about Dark End Dragon is the fact it is a Synchro monster, since it appearted in the GX manga as an effect monster and is meant to be the dark half of Light and Darkness Dragon.
Light End dragon is a synchro too
Fun fact about Crush Card, I can't remember what pre-release it was, but it was the one where the booklet you got had exchange of the spirit, a few of them and I mean a very very few of them actually had Crush Card virus. I don't remember if they did this with Gold Sarc as well but I remember hearing they did. Sorry this old man's memory isn't want it used to be.
I remember this and attended that sneak peek. It was for Power of the duelist and the intended promo was Hidden Soldiers. Interesting thing is that this was by complete mistake and before it would have legally been released via SJC.
I remember when I had a shonen jump subscription and they gave us copies of these cards.
What a time to be a flipper!
LMAO
"... Gadget that matched their background color ..."
I have NEVER realized that fact before!
"Supposed short printing"
GLD1 Crush Cards were regularly exchanged for 300USD. I actually sold 2 for $500 in cash a week before the banlist that killed TeleDAD was announced when I quit the game back then.
Very different times.
I was in highschool when Dark Armed Dragon was released, the arrival of the Synchros and the dominance of the Gladiator Beasts and Lightsworns. What an era! Though I was confused because it took too long to Konami to release Crush Card Virus considering it was a card that was in the anime and it also was available for play in the OCG since 1999 iirc.
Yes I was also in high school at that time and didn't critically think about how they do their reprints or about the prestige prize cards carried as the only copies and wondered why it took ages for crush card to get a print for everyone but also thought about gold sarc a lot because I was used to it in the games.
@@LightshaverConstellation exactly because I had mostly counterfeit cards of Crush Card Virus or even Black Magician Of Chaos for years and most of them didn't get official prints until 2008/2009 so it was very weird.
One of my favorite old school combos is Gold Sarcophagus searching Necroface while Soul Absorbtion is active for a 5k LP gain from Necroface's banish effect.
and then after that, YCS prize cards had included Number 106 Giant Hand and Minerva, the Exalted Lightsworn. Each was worth thousands. Giant Hand was a strong component of the Rank 4 Toolbox and a single copy would be passed between friend groups to be borrowed for tournament use right up until Duelist Alliance. Minerva was the critical piece of a Lightsworn deck that would have been a tier 1 deck alongside ABC and Majespector in the period before Invasion: Vengence
I love crush card and all the virus cards, modern iterations of virus decks are so fun to watch (mainly rhymestyle's), I should make one on master duel!
I knew of Crush Card Virus and Cyber Stein, but most of these rewards are news to me. Definitely a great topic for a video, been loving these lately
Some players say dark end dragon shouldn’t be allowed in edison since almost nobody had access to it since it was a prize card. It almost doesnt matter anyways since dark end isnt a generic synchro most decks cant make it anyways except dark monsters like caius/chaos sorc/malicious+ lvl 2 tuner like plague spreader. Or gorz+lvl 1 tuner like white stone of legends. Or a blackwing deck
IMO if they're not broken, cards should be allowed in ANY fan format.
"most decks can't make it anyway, except for most decks"
Here's an idea for an episode of Failed Catds and Mechanics: the Duel Terminal 1 archetypes by which I mean the archetypes mentioned in the storyline before Sophia makes her appearance. Most were unviable and a few still are despite some added support. The biggest issue many had at least in the beginning was a complete lack of dedicated S/T support. Hell, it may make for a few episodes
Tbh when you mentioned gold sarcophagus, i KNEW you were gonna eventually talk about shiranui's lol
I don't envy Konami for needing to balance a game where 90% of the time both players will want to draw 100 cards, activate 100 effects and OTK without counterplay if there is even the slightest opportunity. How do you retrain such a playerbase to appreciate grindy back and forth games?
Just don't balance the game poorly in the first place.
But really, there's probably no easy way to do that without alienating at least half the remaining fans. I'd release retrains of stuff that maybe could come off the banlist, stop with the constant powercreep, hit the broken stuff (like Bystial/Runick/Superheavy/etc), and put a stop to the scapegoating of archetypes.
Best yugioh channel. Keep it up!
I really liked this vid, hope to see other prize cards in later years in another vid
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
I was today years old when I learned that each gadget searches based on the color of its background
Great video as usual!
I still prefer Dark End Dragon over Scrap Dragon because the former sends cards to the gy rather than destroy them.
There's a FTK combo with Cyberstain that causes its effect to cost 0 LP and spam the board with extra deck monsters.
I didn't know a lot of these were prize cards!
Cyber stein got played in tear? Damn!
For an Unknown Side of Yugioh episode you should talk about cards that can ZTK
I've never heard hydrogeddon pronounced that way but it is totally right. That's awesome
I don't think I ever knew what Crush Card Virus did until now lol the anime was totally different, and the only time I ever played it was in Duelist of the Roses where it was a field spell. Honestly it'd be cool if it was just a field spell, that destroys all 1500+ face-up monsters on the field. Give it a three turn limit, I suppose, but the one-sided-ness of the card as it is seems too powerful for a single discard/tribute.
For another unknown topic, what about covering barely known archetypes or archetypes with the fewest number of cards within that archetype?
I never noticed the gadgets searched what their background was... cool
You should always try most wanted shonen jump exclusive non tournament cards.
I'd love to see a video covering small monster swarm decks, like Deskbots!
I wanna hear YCS Prize Cards, from the Darklords to Anotherverse Dragon.
I have a huge soft spot for Stein. I always run him in my decks.
How about a video for the YCS prize cards?
You know, I'm still curious about those cards with "once per flip" restrictions.
May you please soon tell us more about the Edison Format?
The SJC prize cards are the 🐐’s of the hobby in my opinion
I play cyber stein in my deck as if I get mad at someone else, then I will use his effects to bring out big monsters, but i think it is too slow to get played in duels, but I made a custom cards for cyber stein into a archetype and I am still upset about you not reviewing my cyber stein's dr.stein custom card and it fits in it
YO, IS THAT *YUGIOH 5D's WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP 2011: OVER THE NEXUS* STAPLE CARD, DARK END DRAGON?!
Funny thing, my stepdads friend was the one to win the dsrk end dragon. Unfortunately tho, he had to sell because he borrowed someones deck and they told him if he won anything, they would have to split the prize
We STILL don’t have Blood Mefist speaking of prize cards :(
3:52
If I were to update this card to a more modern standard:
_Des Volstgalph #2_ (EARTH)
Level 6
Dragon/Effect
_You can special summon this card (From your hand or GY) by tributing 1 Monster, Spell and Trap card each from your hand or field. If this card destroys an opponents card by battle or card effect: Inflict 500 damage. Each time a card or effect resolves, this card gains 200 ATK/DEF until the end of the turn. (Quick effect) Once per turn, at the beginning of the turn, you can tribute 1 card from your hand or field: Activate 1 of the following effects depending on the type of the tributed card:_
Monster: This card is unaffected by monster effects, and deals piercing battle damage, for the rest of the turn. Once this turn: if you destroy an opponents monster by battle or card effect, you can destroy 1 monster on the field or from your hand.
Spell: This card is unaffected by Spell cards/effects for the rest of the turn. Once this turn: if you destroy an opponents Spell card by card effect, you can destroy 1 Spell card on the field or from your hand.
Trap: This card is unaffected by Trap cards/effects for the rest of the turn. Once this turn: if you destroy an opponents Trap card by card effect, you can destroy 1 Trap card on the field or from your hand.
ATK/2200 DEF/1700
What does mean “At the beginning of the turn”? like “During the Main Phase 1”?
@@taninsuwannatri8411
Before main phase 1, before the draw phase, before anything else…. It’s literally the first thing you do that turn
@@taninsuwannatri8411
Basically by making it THE first thing that happens, you have protections for the entire turn, regardless of phase.
I still say having your opponent choose the 3 monsters Crush Card destroyed was a STUPID idea.
They should've just stopped with the no damage thing, maybe have it last for the next 3 turns like the card destruction if they were really worried.
You should make a series explaining archtypes and why they aren’t meta
14:27 I'm surprised how human (in the style of mangas) Rai-Oh's eyes look.
This was THE era!!
When is Blood Mesfit gonna be reprinted it's been move than a decade ?
I hated prize cards so much, mainly cuz it killed my desire to collect numbers when things like the hand and utopia became prize only forever
What about Victory Dragon, it was a prize card too bright?
yeah i think this and all the other matchwinners were Worlds prize cards^^
How do you know that Edison Format is becoming more popular than GOAT? Is there a data or an article I can read of it somewhere?
Could you do a sequel video covering prize cards after the SJC era?
I was today years old when I learned about the gadgets' search being tied to their background color. Much much much easier to read now wowza
Why at 7:15-7:17 does the faint sound of a computer shutting of play
Great Video as always, could you do one for every YCS D; ?
Does cyberstein also summon monsters that "must be fusion summoned"?
Probably not
This was sick
Would love a video about all prize cards
shock master was one of them if i remember correctly
What about a video explaining what the tcg archetypes are based off of?
2:37 *Upperdeck, not Konami.
No wonder Konami made prize cards have crappy effects. They dont want to have those scarcity problems again.
Oh shitn new superheavy samurais are coming?
High key need anime about the lore of the cards
Video idea: failed cards and mechanics: majestic dragon
Do a video about the YCS series !
Cab you make a video about the different formats like goat?
paying 5000$ for a piece of paper is insane
Their are paintings that sold for millions
@@swallow_skyla3602 say kapp
@@swallow_skyla3602 oh ye you can sell it for 0,02$ now. Outstanding move.
@@swallow_skyla3602 this isn't /pol/ bud.
Not even paper! It's cardstock! And such a small amount at that!
I miss crush card😢
The flashing lights in the first few cards/seconds of the video were super annoying lol
minute after posting. keep up the good work!
Cloudians, they need support please.
Prize Card only cards seem totally insane to me. Like literal anime bullshit.
Idea: Top 10 Shonen Jump Magazine promo cards
My idea! I was playing since Cyber-Stein n got out before pendulum were a thing :/
5 minutes after posting hell yeah
Gadgets search the colours of their eyes… the background colour is who searched it
Shrink was a terror here in Texas.
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My area had a crush card. Kids dad bought it for him. They wouldnt use it at locals.
SUPPOSED short printing😉
Gotta say, I liked it more when rare Yugioh cards were more expensive.
It meant that the price for card packs were justified and not clearly overpriced like today
Too bad Konami dgaf, and never have nor will.
Free sims ftw.
I played crush card😂😂
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